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 Mitsubishi asx, This car doesnt seem to be popular here.

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post Sep 7 2011, 08:45 PM

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QUOTE(cybermaster98 @ Sep 7 2011, 08:35 PM)
And Mitsubishi is better? Compared to both, i would take my chances with the Sportage especially with all the hype about Korean makes worldwide. Mitsubishi is like nowhere to be seen. I would have much lesser confidence in Mitsubishi compared to Kia.

But even if after sales service standards are the same, the Sportage physical looks & specs would easily trump the ASX anytime. The Sportage has that elite luxury look while the ASX is somewhat a run of the mill. I would say the ASX is as interesting as the current Vios but severely overpriced.

There must be a logical reason why the Sportage sales are double that of the ASX. Anyway, be prepared for a severe loss of resale value with the ASX.
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Considering I've own 3 volvos before (just giving up my second S40), the ASX loss in resale value cant get any worse blush.gif

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QUOTE(richard912 @ Sep 7 2011, 08:45 PM)
Considering I've own 3 volvos before (just giving up my second S40), the ASX loss in resale value cant get any worse  blush.gif
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QUOTE(richard912 @ Sep 7 2011, 03:37 PM)
The deed is done. Booking paid for a Gray ASX
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same color as mine... dunno why the titanium gray is the most sought after

i've not seen anyone riding a red or kawashima blue yet

how much did u get urs? any discount?

if u dun mind, can u share how much DP u paid, loan amount, loan period, monthly repayment, interest rate and which bank?

mine was 136k (141k is the list price in sarawak) + 2 yrs free maintenance, paid 36k dp, 100k loan @ 2.6% @ 5 yrs with 1,867 monthly repayment - affin bank


QUOTE(richard912 @ Sep 7 2011, 08:20 PM)
Indeed, you are right. But I am skeptical of its after sales service whistling.gif
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also my biggest factor. in my hometown, even merc don't have a proper workshop. - there's T, H, N, Mitsu, Ford and hyundai (brought by rightwpoer corporation who seems to have their own loan / financial facility aka along?)

QUOTE(cybermaster98 @ Sep 7 2011, 08:35 PM)
And Mitsubishi is better? Compared to both, i would take my chances with the Sportage especially with all the hype about Korean makes worldwide. Mitsubishi is like nowhere to be seen. I would have much lesser confidence in Mitsubishi compared to Kia.

But even if after sales service standards are the same, the Sportage physical looks & specs would easily trump the ASX anytime. The Sportage has that elite luxury look while the ASX is somewhat a run of the mill. I would say the ASX is as interesting as the current Vios but severely overpriced.

There must be a logical reason why the Sportage sales are double that of the ASX. Anyway, be prepared for a severe loss of resale value with the ASX.
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Kia in malaysia is brought by NAZA, which i know have quite unpopular after sales service - i guess, all brands will have some problems with the after sales service (the only exception i've seen so far is proton edar)

i dun see any similar comparison to vios - which i must say is hugely popular car with ah beng and girls. the asx is very unpopular, the choice for those who doesn't prioritize resale value

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post Sep 8 2011, 08:53 AM

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QUOTE(lucifah @ Sep 8 2011, 12:15 AM)
same color as mine... dunno why the titanium gray is the most sought after

i've not seen anyone riding a red or kawashima blue yet

how much did u get urs? any discount?

if u dun mind, can u share how much DP u paid, loan amount, loan period, monthly repayment, interest rate and which bank?

mine was 136k (141k is the list price in sarawak) + 2 yrs free maintenance, paid 36k dp, 100k loan @ 2.6% @ 5 yrs with 1,867 monthly repayment - affin bank
also my biggest factor. in my hometown, even merc don't have a proper workshop. - there's T, H, N, Mitsu, Ford and hyundai (brought by rightwpoer corporation who seems to have their own loan / financial facility aka along?)
Kia in malaysia is brought by NAZA, which i know have quite unpopular after sales service - i guess, all brands will have some problems with the after sales service (the only exception i've seen so far is proton edar)

i dun see any similar comparison to vios - which i must say is hugely popular car with ah beng and girls. the asx is very unpopular, the choice for those who doesn't prioritize resale value
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With the limited color offering, it was either the white or titanium gray. I chose the latter for "easier" maintenance wink.gif

I managed to wrangle some discount (which I don't think is ethical to disclose in the open). Coupled with no waiting time, sealed the deal for me. Will be getting my financing from Affin, which I have been using for more than 10 years! 5 years, 2.58%.

The sad thing about buying cars in Malaysia is, I go through a process of elimination and on the top of that "list" is after sales service, followed closely by "is that car/make high on the car theft statistics?" sweat.gif Safety, ride comfort, reliability, features, performance and lastly, depreciation.

Btw, did you do any mods to your ride eg accessories, etc? I will be installing the scuff plates and tailgate protector, of course, tinting too (6 mil security tint). May consider autofoam and alternator booster later on thumbup.gif
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more ppl getting CRV and Captiva, and the Hyundai / Kia (forgotten what name)
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post Sep 8 2011, 09:08 AM

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QUOTE(lucifah @ Sep 8 2011, 12:15 AM)
Kia in malaysia is brought by NAZA, which i know have quite unpopular after sales service - i guess, all brands will have some problems with the after sales service (the only exception i've seen so far is proton edar)

i dun see any similar comparison to vios - which i must say is hugely popular car with ah beng and girls. the asx is very unpopular, the choice for those who doesn't prioritize resale value
The reason u dont see a comparison with the Vios is because when we compare cars, it makes logical sense to compare apple to apple.

For your info, i drive a 2003 Vios (1st batch) and its given me excellent problem free service these past 8+ years. The after sales service by Toyota is truly exemplery. But, since we're comparing the ASX to the Sportage so Toyota doesnt come into the picture.

Regarding Kia's after sales service, like i said in my previous post, Kia's service cannot be any worse than Mitsubishi im sure. Probably on par or marginally better/worse. So after sales service standards shouldnt come into the picture. It only does when ure comparing a brand with far inferior standards with a brand with far superior standards (e.g Toyota).

So after taking the after sales service standards out of the equation, what are we left with to compare? Physical looks, interior, build quality, specs, pricing/value for money and resale value. Based on these 6 criterias, i think the Sportage has a clear advantage.

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QUOTE(richard912 @ Sep 8 2011, 08:53 AM)
The sad thing about buying cars in Malaysia is, I go through a process of elimination and on the top of that "list" is after sales service, followed closely by "is that car/make high on the car theft statistics?" sweat.gif  Safety, ride comfort, reliability, features, performance and lastly, depreciation.

Btw, did you do any mods to your ride eg accessories, etc? I will be installing the scuff plates and tailgate protector, of course, tinting too (6 mil security tint). May consider autofoam and alternator booster later on thumbup.gif
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very true

no mods yet since its still under a 3 yr warranty. i have a set of illuminated door sill protectors, but has not installed it since it requires some wiring.

i dun think you need any auto-foam, since most of the time, it's the tyre noise that you hear (dunlop sp270 is notorious for its noise)

QUOTE(cybermaster98 @ Sep 8 2011, 09:08 AM)
So after taking the after sales service standards out of the equation, what are we left with to compare? Physical looks, interior, build quality, specs, pricing/value for money and resale value. Based on these 6 criterias, i think the Sportage has a clear advantage.
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might have considered the kia sportage if it HAS a proper service center in my hometown. heck, the nearest service center i think is about 5 hour drive

compared to Mitsu, there's a few 3S in my state, and they are also the same company who provides 3S for Honda (Jimisar Autotrade) - which means quite a lot in term of service quality and after sales

but for the 6 criterias you mentioned, it's very subjective - for example, i like interiors with very MINIMAL buttons. even BMW and mercs have too much button that i will never press or use.

build quality for both is quite similar

and for a japanese CBU, the ASX is nicely priced (compared to its nemesis the ageing locally assembled CR-V, the grey imported RAV4 and the nissan juke which ETCM didn't bring in)


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QUOTE(richard912 @ Sep 7 2011, 08:45 PM)
Considering I've own 3 volvos before (just giving up my second S40), the ASX loss in resale value cant get any worse  blush.gif
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why selling the S40? the maintenance is really bad?
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QUOTE(turbocharged @ Sep 8 2011, 10:15 AM)
why selling the S40? the maintenance is really bad?
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I have enjoyed the experience thoroughly but alas, it's time to let it go for a new car. I bought my S40 used, in early 2009 (reg'd 7/2005) and while I can still get a decent price for it, why not.
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post Sep 8 2011, 11:23 AM

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wah richard, so fast change avatar..
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the other day lend my car to my fren then my fren tell me that my car steering wheel feel quite tight coz cant really recenter after turning. Not really notice before but yesterday test it and i do feel my fren is right. Is normal for asx or my car got problem with my car?
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i was comtemplating the ASX & the pug 308T (not the 3008, for some reason, i really don't like the nose of the 3008). After test driving both cars, I chose the 308T over the ASX. In fact, I think if the 308T was at the price of the ASX, I will still buy it. But even if the ASX was at the price of the 308T, I wouldn't buy it. It is just simply not worth the money.

The ASX has the exterior looks that attracts me to it in the first place. This is one handsome car indeed. And it has got that modern cross-over look that will look great during a cross country drive or urban drive. However, these are the only 2 attributes which I can say is a plus for the ASX. It seriously lacks any form of luxurious features inside an overly simple and uninspiring interior. No doubt the interior is not cramped, but for a car this size and this class, I was expecting a lot more space. The engine's performance is nothing to shout about at all, sounding both lethargic and stressed. Plenty of grunt, but no go.

The 308Turbo, on the other hand, had great looks too, both exterior and interior. The panoramic glass rooftop is easily my best loved feature, making the interior bright, but does not allow our Malaysian's polluted air into the cabin, unlike a convertible car. And that roof expands virtually the whole length of the interior, unlike a conventional sunroof which is small. Yes, the 308T does not have a double DIN TV head unit. But I can easily forget about that since watching TV while driving is never a priority to me anyway. And it has got bluetooth! The seats are not leather, but they are bucket seats! The interior space was really surprisingly good, both front & back and the seats are comfortable to seat 4. This is a classical case of packaging a big sized car into a shape that looks small. And it is a seriously quick car! The 1.6L turbo engine has great power & torque, with very very good handling to boot. And the road tax is also cheaper than the ASX! I know for sure that the 308T will be able to outrun the ASX anytime, except maybe over speed bumps where the ASX's ride height means it is less likely to hit bottom, but then again, you don't really whack speed bumps like a speed demon anyway... laugh.gif

A note about after sales service. It is a highly localized preference. For instance, in my case, Mitsubishi does not have its own service center here in Kota Kinabalu. It is done by the reseller / authorized agent. And my research so far had lead me to conclude that the service standard is nothing great. Peugeot, on the other hand is done by a big authorized agent, which also carries the Volvo brand and the HINO industrial vehicle brand. I have a HINO truck which I send to them for service & repair. Their service had been very good thus far.

... and the final point. If I'm a thief and saw a 308T & an ASX parked next to each other, I would probably want to have a go at the ASX rather than the 308T! Hahaha.... laugh.gif

p/s: The above are just my own opinion and conclusions based on my own unique requirements which I had set before going for the test drive. It is meant as a reference and not meant to condemn the ASX. I only want to highlight what I wanted in the ASX, which was not there and caused me to choose the 308T instead of the ASX. It may have features which a potential buyer is looking for, so to all current & future ASX owners, congrats on your purchase and enjoy the car lah... You can read opinions and discussions, but in the end, the money is still yours to put in for the downpayment and service the loan. There are no perfect cars, just the car that suits you the most. Peace.
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Hi kysham

Fair personal opinion. Buying cars is directly correlated to the individuals' preferences, which can have a wide degree of variance and factors.

Buy a car, drive it and enjoy the experience and when that wears off, time to go car shopping again thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(richard912 @ Sep 10 2011, 11:58 AM)
Hi kysham

Fair personal opinion. Buying cars is directly correlated to the individuals' preferences, which can have a wide degree of variance and factors.

Buy a car, drive it and enjoy the experience and when that wears off, time to go car shopping again thumbup.gif
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Buying car is really about personal satisfaction, don't understand those butthurt/sour grape fellow always say this and that about our vehicle... u don't like u dun buy la, i like then i buy it's not your money also so why butthurt.. not pointing at anyone strictly my point of view..been getting a lot of comments like this lately eversince i got my focus shakehead.gif
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QUOTE(kysham @ Sep 10 2011, 11:28 AM)
i was comtemplating the ASX & the pug 308T (not the 3008, for some reason, i really don't like the nose of the 3008). After test driving both cars, I chose the 308T over the ASX. In fact, I think if the 308T was at the price of the ASX, I will still buy it. But even if the ASX was at the price of the 308T, I wouldn't buy it. It is just simply not worth the money.

The ASX has the exterior looks that attracts me to it in the first place. This is one handsome car indeed. And it has got that modern cross-over look that will look great during a cross country drive or urban drive. However, these are the only 2 attributes which I can say is a plus for the ASX. It seriously lacks any form of luxurious features inside an overly simple and uninspiring interior. No doubt the interior is not cramped, but for a car this size and this class, I was expecting a lot more space. The engine's performance is nothing to shout about at all, sounding both lethargic and stressed. Plenty of grunt, but no go.

The 308Turbo, on the other hand, had great looks too, both exterior and interior. The panoramic glass rooftop is easily my best loved feature, making the interior bright, but does not allow our Malaysian's polluted air into the cabin, unlike a convertible car. And that roof expands virtually the whole length of the interior, unlike a conventional sunroof which is small. Yes, the 308T does not have a double DIN TV head unit. But I can easily forget about that since watching TV while driving is never a priority to me anyway. And it has got bluetooth! The seats are not leather, but they are bucket seats! The interior space was really surprisingly good, both front & back and the seats are comfortable to seat 4. This is a classical case of packaging a big sized car into a shape that looks small. And it is a seriously quick car! The 1.6L turbo engine has great power & torque, with very very good handling to boot. And the road tax is also cheaper than the ASX! I know for sure that the 308T will be able to outrun the ASX anytime, except maybe over speed bumps where the ASX's ride height means it is less likely to hit bottom, but then again, you don't really whack speed bumps like a speed demon anyway... laugh.gif

A note about after sales service. It is a highly localized preference. For instance, in my case, Mitsubishi does not have its own service center here in Kota Kinabalu. It is done by the reseller / authorized agent. And my research so far had lead me to conclude that the service standard is nothing great. Peugeot, on the other hand is done by a big authorized agent, which also carries the Volvo brand and the HINO industrial vehicle brand. I have a HINO truck which I send to them for service & repair. Their service had been very good thus far.

... and the final point. If I'm a thief and saw a 308T & an ASX parked next to each other, I would probably want to have a go at the ASX rather than the 308T! Hahaha.... laugh.gif

p/s: The above are just my own opinion and conclusions based on my own unique requirements which I had set before going for the test drive. It is meant as a reference and not meant to condemn the ASX. I only want to highlight what I wanted in the ASX, which was not there and caused me to choose the 308T instead of the ASX. It may have features which a potential buyer is looking for, so to all current & future ASX owners, congrats on your purchase and enjoy the car lah... You can read opinions and discussions, but in the end, the money is still yours to put in for the downpayment and service the loan. There are no perfect cars, just the car that suits you the most. Peace.
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bro..why ur consideration is between 308T and ASX one??
different category ah??
one is hatchback/convertible one is crossover
Just curious...Sorry im not asx or 308T owner..

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Actually the car is for my wife. Her requirements were very simple. She wants a hatchback. laugh.gif To her, the ASX is a hatchback, same like the 308T. So that's why we were considering both these models. Of course, thee were other hatchback models too, like the mazda 3, Nissan latio sport, volkswagen polo & golf. Not interested in the Honda jazz or fit, nor the Toyota hatchback (sorry, can't remember the name). They simply did not give us the best impressions for various reasons. These two models were short listed and in the end, the 308T won out. smile.gif
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QUOTE(kysham @ Sep 10 2011, 07:15 PM)
Actually the car is for my wife. Her requirements were very simple. She wants a hatchback. laugh.gif To her, the ASX is a hatchback, same like the 308T. So that's why we were considering both these models. Of course, thee were other hatchback models too, like the mazda 3, Nissan latio sport, volkswagen polo & golf. Not interested in the Honda jazz or fit, nor the Toyota hatchback (sorry, can't remember the name). They simply did not give us the best impressions for various reasons. These two models were short listed and in the end, the 308T won out. smile.gif
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i think ASX should be compared to 3008, ( which has a luxurious cockpit that will make any suv below 200k looks stupid)

while 308THp should be compared to mitsu lancer sportback. ( which is 2.4 liter, featured in autocar magazine sep 2011 lancer SB vs 308 thp vs golf) and 308thp came out the best)

i think your wife will always grin when she needs to drive the car biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(turbocharged @ Sep 10 2011, 08:27 PM)
i think ASX should be compared to 3008, ( which has a luxurious cockpit that will make any suv below 200k looks stupid)

while 308THp should be compared to mitsu lancer sportback. ( which is 2.4 liter, featured in autocar magazine sep 2011 lancer SB vs 308 thp vs golf) and 308thp came out the best)

i think your wife will always grin when she needs to drive the car biggrin.gif
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Yeah, I guess if it was a class to class comparison, then the 308T should not be compared to the ASX. But we were not comparing that way. Like I said, my wife's requirements were simple.... She wanted a hatchback style car. The lancer GT did not fall into that category and the sport back was not readily available.

And yes, both her and myself were grinning every time we drove the car. In fact, we were always trying to get that car over our the other car, the xtrail! laugh.gif
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One thing I noticed while sitting as passenger in the backseat of ASX, the seat has an uncomfortable seating angle and it's hard to go in & out with the fully opened door too near to the leg.

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a proton re-badged ASX? Ouch...!

http://paultan.org/2011/09/15/proton-and-m...ll-car/#respond



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