not very, but harder then alu, alu use hand also can bend >.<

on why neutral density filter is important

singhray.blogspot

amazing stuff you got here!!

oh.. now I know..my B=W filter are alloy, no wonder my filter 'kemek' -,-

alloy are fake b+w =____=

really hah? so the MPA sold at me are fake one?

not sure, are u sure is ALLOY? i only know there is one series (old series) which is alloy, but its old, unless u buy at least 2 years back. during this time, a lot imitation of B+W.... Brass is expensive, so imitation dont follow liao after they upgrade to brass, that why b+w are expensive.

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Added on October 13, 2011, 11:54 pmopps my mistake, ALU and ALLOY is diff, BRASS is a kind of ALLOY.

ALU is ALUMINUM, weak metal.

ok, my mistake, ALLOY is the old series, which is HARD too, then they redesign and use Brass... more solid. there are fakes one that uses Aluminum which are soft metal.... but alloy is hard too~ but brass is harder.

This post has been edited by ieR: Oct 13 2011, 11:56 PM

Bought this beauty at last week KLPF


B+W XS Pro 77mm by zhengyang89, on Flickr

HOYA sucks. now its dented and i cant get it off my lens thread. should have bought the HD

dear friend, hoya does not suck, the reason it got bent is human error. anyway, if its badly bend, the only way to take it off is the break the glass, and cut the from side, bend it inwards to take out (that is how i help my customer remove jammed filter)

can u help me? i cant seem to remove it.

I m using EF 24-105 f4L 77mm.

HOYA Pro1D, Hoya HD, B+W XS Pro :

Give opinion on which is better. I use in clean environment, so only need clear and beautiful photos.

im in Miri Sarawak.

either one will do it doesnt matter. both are great filter.

speaking of which, i wanted to buy a cpl.. when i say i wanted Hoya HD, the shop owner keep telling me no need get HD, get the slim version will do.. what's the basis of this? should i just get the normal CPL or the Hoya HD?

if you can invest more, there is no harm you take HD the material glass are difference.

hmm..now I need to spend 2 more filter, the scratch one and the 'kemek' one..
hmm..b+w xs pro nano?

SIGH. how do u plan to remove it if you were me?

glass already broken of course, now the thread is so kissed together

komputermuzik: saw, saw it slowly cutting one side of the filter (not the lens)... then 3mm away saw one more, then 3mm away saw one more, 3 'lubang' now bend the metal into a M shape inwards, then the whole ring should be lose from the lens.

if only i'm a handyman with tools. neway thanx

Planing to get a CPL filter, but not sure what size to grab, should I grab the same size that match for my lens or just grab the biggest size 77mm and use adapter to attach ?

grab 77 then buy adapters.. they're pretty cheap compared to CPL filters