taikor...one can't have best of every thing ler....

and i do agree with you about speaker positioning.....
but if you can achieve best position and still look nice....that would perfect world....

my recent audio room....haiyah.....messed up abit...the screen forced my cremonas out abit......but ok lar....sound not much impacted

The most innovative point is, it looks so weird, but people prefer the sound of it, and even compare it to dozens of multigrand speakers...hmm

There are idiots out there who compare the over priced JH Layla IEM having bigger soundstage than the obviously miles better HD800 full sized headphone. Don't buy into the hype man. Try the damn things first, then only decide if you wanna buy it.

For that price you might be better off with the DALI Rubicon bookshelves.

Yes, all speakers need some kind of positioning to get the best of the sound to be flowed into our ears. I'm thinking rationally based on the idea, how the speaker control the sound, which is could be what most high-end speakers is being designed, but as you know auditions, magazine reviews, marketing hype, all comes with a layer of thick snake oil or being injected with tons of snake oil, I'm sad to say that though, if I'm going to audition the speakers, how am I ensure I'm listen to the real sample of products, that's the fishy thing, also the room setup with acoustic management is another trap. More practically, consider you have thousands of song, even it takes 20 to 30 tracks, the process can be tiring and not really wise to make a decision. After all I'm still back to the same question, with limited budget how can get a reference bookshelf that is powerful and dynamic enough with balanced and accurate tone, if assume I buy a highly recommended brand of speakers, there is also no guanrantee I can get what I want, also there is no return policy in bolehland. The Grand Teton Gen2 got 40 days return policy, which in case I just need to pay the shipping cost though. Talking about garbage in garbage out, I'm absolutely fine with it, as I always go for transparent setup. USA really a heaven for HiFi and music enthusiast, there are tons of affordable speakers with good return policy. In BOLEHLAND, with same price, I'm just buying a traditional designed speakers, no state of the art technology, so I would rather buy a really "high end" bookshelf speakers. If not the Grand Teton Gen2, what else would you all recommend? KEF R300? Joseph Audio Pulsar is neverland but dreamland to me

Ya, I get what you mean, I plan to have some chats with Grand Teton Gen2 owners first, private investigation executing...

Ya...trust your own ears, not someone else's ears.

yup.......no one knows how you want to hear it except yourself....

next month i might be travelling to Bangkok....if i have the time...i might go HiFi Plaza again....

I think your better bet is still stick with Sierrra-1.

Yeah, quite tempting to get Ascend Acoustic Sierra-1, it looks gorgeous, the Grand Teton Gen2 looks like a joke or mad scientist experiment...

When buying speaker, you need to look at the engineering aspects: part used, driver used, design, SPL, on- and off-axis, cabinet, decaying and definitely the the designing goal of the speaker.

Relying on reviews also can be misleading as there are alot of paid reviews or bribed reviews. Even auditioning before purchase sometime can be misleading as they are difference in room space, gears, and most importantly, your mood (haha, this can be easily influenced).

In US, they offer 30 more days in home audition, because the best place to test out is probably your home.

The weird and freaky thing is the Grand Teton Gen2 is being put together with those big brand expensive speakers, really looks like a joke, haha...

There is nothing wrong with marketing positioning.
You can come out with a strange design and position your product along with Wilson Audio, the problem is how to convince others to give you $$$. You can do paid reviews, design nice ads in magazine, and sponsor review website etc, be good friend with editors and give him a free pair, give out your speakers in lucky draw, or work with proton edar to install your speaker into their Honda clone etc.

For sure you got no time to visit Hifi Plaza when in BKK cos you spend too much time inside the urut centres

Eh...take picture of your newly renovated sound room and show us a bit lah.
What you mean by the screen forcing your Cremonas out a bit ler?

pix is here:

https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/412500/+1520

Enuf juice meh? How many dedicated power points you ran into the room?
My new place got 5 at the place I am setting up my tv & existing system but I haven't checked if they are dedicated or parallel wiring


The new setup will be in my study and I am sure I gotta run a few more dedicated lines to it. Minimum 4 I think. Existing only 2 and at different corners of the room. Will be partitioning it up. Trouble is it is about 30 feet away from my junction box.


This post has been edited by GI Jie: May 15 2015, 10:22 AM

@GI Jie , i have one dedicated phase going into the audio room....from there i have a dedicated DB power for the room

from the DB, each equipment has a dedicated power line

1 for my amp running on 4mm cables
1 for my av amp running on 4mm cables
1 for cdp running on 2.5mm
1 for bluray running on 2.5mm
1 for projector
1 for sub
and another spare for future second sub

my screen, aircond and lights are wired from the main db which is separated from my audio db.....

should be enuf juice lar

Nice. I wish I have room like this.

Ya, me too. My (soon to be partitioned) room only measures 19' X 15'. Gonna partition it with 2 concrete slabs with steel wool in between.

based on Cardas recommendation....your room is slider wider....but nevertheless....having a room is better than none....
can't wait to see your room!!!