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 Please Recommend... a Hifi Stereo System, Pls state your budget pls!!!

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post Oct 24 2012, 05:37 PM

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QUOTE(Kerry1136 @ Oct 12 2012, 10:17 PM)
Top of front speaker not good?

Also, went to a couple of places got quotes like;

Onkyo 309 + Jamo 606 = RM3800

Yamaha 473 + PCB Satellite speakers = RM4k

Cheap?
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Those speakers ain't that "audiophile", to be honest. If I were you, I would consider moving up from a 2.1 system: get a good amp, good LR, then when your budget permits, you add in sub, CS and surround.

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post Feb 2 2013, 08:09 AM

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QUOTE(kuekwee @ Jan 14 2013, 05:07 PM)
What's a good budget to start built Hi-Fi. Currently using headphone/iem only. Was thinking to go for speaker.  Is RM3000 enough to get a decent set?
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3k is a lot of money. You can definitely get a decent system if you look around wisely.
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post Mar 21 2014, 03:13 PM

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QUOTE(yuan415 @ Mar 21 2014, 01:55 PM)
can anyone comment on X-LS Encore ? this rm1200 bookshelf can really beat rm2500 range bookshelfs like triangle color and b&w 685?
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You can ask vivakarna. He and other "not so active forumer" own a pairs at home.
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post Mar 22 2014, 05:24 PM

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QUOTE(vivakarna @ Mar 22 2014, 01:29 AM)
If you want to experience the real HiFi sound, you should buy the Xls-encore and this speaker may the only bookshelf you'll ever need.

Pair it with a decent DAC and topping tp60 integrated amp, the performance is really good.

Rich in low end, the Mid is lush and sweet and the high is smooth.

Listening to acoustic song like by Madilyn bailey, boyceavenue and Kurt Hugo Schneider  is really surreal, its like they are performing in front of you, not exaggerating, but that's the fact.

For me, I'm really into EDM, with a good mixed music, the sound is holographic. It can bring back the excitement of being there, at the festival of EDM brows.gif

If you are into rock music, no problem. Xls-encore can handle the mess very well.

Jazz and Blues ah~ easy peasy to handle...

BUT

you can't achieve all that if:

1) You have no dedicated stand source. Isolation is the key.

2) Ur listening to a pirate, support original. The original is always better than the pirate, iTunes is always better than the .flac over the torrent site. That's what i've found over the years of downloading the illegal. 

3) You don't have enough space to let the speaker breath.

CONs:

Can't think any at this price. If I want to pick one, Xls-Encore is not really suitable for current pop music..not all, but most of it. I think the sound engineering and arrangement is simply sucks. Not worth to be played by this gem..

The real pop is Michael Jackson, Womack and Womack, Toto etc...

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You like toto as well? Recently, I found out their live album, "livefields" is extremely well mastered. You may give it a shot.
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post Apr 4 2014, 11:26 PM

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QUOTE(NoobHacker @ Apr 4 2014, 06:15 PM)
» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «

just tell me how u feel about the electronic piano and the detail and sound stage when all electronic guitar and drums joins  biggrin.gif thank you
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Metal is a complex music. Unlike classical and jazz, metal music have to be evaluated of it dynamic range plus, its treble, mid and bass. Most metal-fi sprefer warm timbre as you can listen to the music longer.

The piano sounds like an electronic piano. Encore does not have any problem with metal music aka babymetal, instruments are projected clearly and separately. You can heard the vocal and chorus clearly, the soundstage is pretty wide considering that the song (i kind of feel that this youtube song is low res) are not really mastered well (the rhythm and drum sounds way too superficial)
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post Apr 6 2014, 01:38 AM

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QUOTE(NoobHacker @ Apr 5 2014, 07:47 AM)
Thanks for your input biggrin.gif yes the youtube just for testing purpose they always dont sound as good as cd or lossless..
Btw no cover for them? My home is dusty. Afraid that dust will stick on the drivers
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Yes, they come with grille, aka cover.
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post May 6 2014, 08:44 AM

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QUOTE(hz428 @ Apr 25 2014, 12:06 AM)
Hi folks, my budget is around 5k+

music taste towards vocals, piano, and i like to listen to details.

living in condo. Any 2.0 or studio speaker is good for me.

Can Anyone recommend me?
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All your musical genre is leading to neutral timbre speaker, I strongly recommend you XLS Encore. You definitely won't go wrong with it.
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post May 31 2014, 12:58 AM

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XLS Encore, A hidden gem.

http://deafcanhear.blogspot.com/2014/05/a-hidden-gem.html
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post Jun 18 2014, 08:56 AM

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QUOTE(1133 @ Jun 17 2014, 02:50 PM)
Plan to sell my Holfi Pre+power and a Celestion spkr, but, ironically.. not many people know about these brand. LOLX
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Celestion, they made one of the best speaker drivers (esp. woofers) in the world.
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post Jul 15 2014, 07:43 AM

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QUOTE(clivengu @ Jul 15 2014, 02:41 AM)
Please recommend me a set up for my Living room + dining area.

Purpose: Mainly playing music like Bossa Nova/ instrumental to fill up the area with lounge-feel. Will use it to watch tv as well, and playing some games on it occasionally. Hardly will watch movie at home..(prefer to go cinema)
Budget: rm 2000. Adjustable.. but cannot be until 4-5k range.

Requirement: I am actually looking for something that can easily fill up the Living room/ dining area without sounding noisy. Thing that best avoid is example: I am sitting at living room sofa listening to my Hifi next to my TV. My gf talk to me in the dining/ dry kitchen area.. and I cannot hear her properly until I need to lower down the volume so much that it becomes pointless to have a good hifi. Or she finds the music "noisy" when she is not within the coverage of the hifi. Currently this happens a lot when I am working in front of my pc (inside study room with door open) while playing my music on my 2.1 pc speakers. And she talks to me from outside and I cant hear her. Or most of the time, she will wants me to lower down the volume...(I am not blasting the music i swear unsure.gif Just loud enough for me to hear every tiny bit of instruments) Apparently the music becomes "noisy" when people are outside of the range. This is what I want to avoid most when installing the hifi system in the living room.

I want the sound to be comfortable enough to chitchat, and same time able to enjoy the music.. Living area until dining area... medium Condo size. A good example will be a cafe/lounge. My thought will be.. I cannot be getting a 2.1 system? Instead I need to have multiple Satellite Speakers, mounting on the ceiling all over the living room and dining area... Is this the way to go?

Please recommend and advice notworthy.gif
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You can try XLS Encore + Topping TP60. They are less than 2k. You will be blown away by by its vocal and clarity, and of course the bass. If you want to go further, you can thrown in a DAC to sweeten it.

We have many forumers here having the similar setup and very happy with it.
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post Jul 15 2014, 11:12 AM

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QUOTE(junsuke @ Jul 14 2014, 11:40 PM)
Thanks for your opinion. Besides that, if you were to recommend me an amp as well as a set of speakers around rm2k-3k budget, what would it be? was having a look around, the x-ls encore speakers have some pretty good reviews as well.
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You will never go wrong with any Danny Ritchie's speakers (XLS Encore, XCS Encore, WAF-1, OB-5, OB7 etc). Danny always voices his speakers for timbre and vocal accuracy.
And most of the reviews have higher credibility as they are independent and unpaid.

Happy hunting.
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post Sep 17 2014, 09:19 PM

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QUOTE(sgmati @ Sep 13 2014, 05:41 AM)
My budget 3k, can buy from Jb or Sg.

What can I get?
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You can begin with XLS Encore plus any Maranatz and Yamaha AVRs or Integrated amp. You will be surprise how good they sound for 3K.
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post Sep 22 2014, 02:02 PM

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hushymushy... the tiny 50watter did fairly well for my living room at 11 o'clock. To be frankly, the sound comes really close to Marantz 5008 except the lower end, which was not that punchy. But for the price, you can't ask for more.

How big is your study room? XLS has a lot of lower end and and if your room has insufficient space, you might need to adjust your listening position. You may consider a pair of X-CS Encore for better bass roll-off, it is a sealed box.
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post Sep 23 2014, 07:29 AM

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hushymushy... the room size is good. Near field is great as XLS has really good off-axis response. But I do suggest to place them on speaker stands, standing before your table, to give enough sensation of the correct left and right source.

Your ear will bled with tube amp if paired with XLS encore. This ssi55 will be a nice match.

Perhaps... PC-->Emerald Physics DAC2 --->ssi55-->Encore.

I have seen a lot of the above setup... you can't complain the sound for the price, they are awesome for the price.

This post has been edited by fx20: Sep 23 2014, 07:33 AM
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post Sep 24 2014, 09:25 AM

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QUOTE(hushymushy @ Sep 23 2014, 10:36 AM)
whats the ball park figure for that setup?
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Oh very affordable.

Emerald Physics DAC 2 24/192k, RM849
Topping TP60 2013/14, RM600
Xls Encore, RM1290

Total damage is only RM2739.

We have done AB tested with much higher priced setup (different dac, amp, but same speaker) The result has minor differences, except some audiophile preferences.

This post has been edited by fx20: Sep 24 2014, 09:31 AM
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post Sep 24 2014, 09:37 AM

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Talking about this TP60, although it is no the best amp out there, but I was truly surprise of its performance. FYI the tripath technolgies used in the amp, the TA2020, was named one of the twenty-five chips that 'shook the world" by the IEEE Spectrum magazine.

Accordingly, these t-amp able to regenerate almost identical waveform as its output.


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post Sep 24 2014, 10:09 AM

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QUOTE(hushymushy @ Sep 24 2014, 09:49 AM)
hhhmmm what other amps have you tested with the XLS?
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1. TP30, TP60
2. Parasound 5125
3. NAD3020, 375BCEE
4. AVR 5008, 6008
5. Denon AVR 19xx 21xx (forgot the exact number)
6. Some Yaqin tubes, MS30L, MC13s, MS300, mc100B and another one out of production.
7. Emotiva monoblock, UPA1, XPA5
8. Frank Voon power amp (customer one)
9. Emerald Physics Power amp
10. Rockson integrated (customer one)
11. Cambridge audio integrated one (custumer one)
12 ... many others.

Maybe you will ask, what the differences? Most amp above gave me very positive impression, smooth high, forwarding mid with detail. That mean most amp are trying to deliver flat SPL. But the high power amp delivers lower end freq in much different way, the high power one are really fast and technically, you dont need a sub for normal music listening. The low power one are somewhat a bit boomy...
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post Sep 24 2014, 10:58 AM

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QUOTE(hushymushy @ Sep 24 2014, 10:19 AM)
so the high powered amps probably gave more control and transient

hows the XLS damping factor like?

low power amps sound abit boomy probably bcoz lack of transience and damping factor....hence less control over the speaker

i'm actually tempted to look at DIY tubes using either KT88/KT120 or 6550. Not cheap though

this system intent is like DIY sound hobbyist....
was even thinking of doing up a pair of scanspeaks speakers
Ring Radiator tweets and 7" Revelator mids
diy passive xovers....with Mundorf, Dueland and etc
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XLS Encore rated at 8ohm with sensitivity of 87db. They are very easy to drive. Yes, high power amp sound good on amp speaker as they have more current on the control.

I not a big fan of DIY. One problem with DIY, how to do QC? This particularly true if you are building amp and dac. But if you look at those factory, they have a specialized software to check all the circuit with correct parameters.

Building speaker can be very challenging. It is not about building box+oxver. It all about getting the right Thiel parameters, incorporated into your final product and finally tuned with the right network in the xover. Usually, the tuning has to be done by ears ...

XLS Encore is a really very impressive speaker, why bother to build one since you can own it will really low price? thumbup.gif


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post Sep 24 2014, 11:24 AM

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QUOTE(hushymushy @ Sep 24 2014, 11:09 AM)
how about XLS encore peerless drivers being replaced by their bigger brother.....Scanspeaks.....

fx20.......diy is like a hobby for me......
obviously for serious listening i already have my rig
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Then you need to modified the network in the xover. The silk dome tweeter in the XLS is attenuated to radiance the equal SPL with other. And you and to re-tune everything again. But, you do not have that reason to do so, XLS uses high end customized tweeter (you can see them in some Sonodyne line). They sound as good as Scan-speak ones. You have to listen to believe. laugh.gif

Actually, peerless makes produces high quality and accurate drivers and OEM for some famous companies. Just that they don't announce like others.
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post Sep 24 2014, 11:30 AM

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QUOTE(fx20 @ Sep 24 2014, 11:24 AM)
Then you need to modified the network in the xover. The silk dome tweeter in the XLS is attenuated to radiance the equal SPL with other. And you and to re-tune everything again. But, you do not have that reason to do so, XLS uses high end customized tweeter (you can see them in some Sonodyne line). They sound as good as Scan-speak ones. You have to listen to believe.  laugh.gif

Actually, peerless makes produces high quality and accurate drivers and OEM for some famous companies. Just that they don't announce like others.
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The XLS Encore 6.5 woofer comes with a copper cap. You won't be able to find high quality woofer like this. rclxms.gif

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