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pierreye
post May 21 2011, 10:04 PM

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dragon age 2 had major problems in 3D. The light and sky are render at wrong level. Nvidia just release a beta driver 275 that support majority of the Samsung new 3D TV. Just connect your pc HDMI output directly to your receiver (1.4 compatible) then to your display. The driver should detect 1.4 3D compatible display and enable 3DTV Play. If you can't get nvidia to detect your display, then you need EDID hack.

If you do not have a 1.4 compatible receiver, you need to connect the HDMI output to your receiver and get a DVI to HDMI adapter and connect to the video card and have another cable directly to your tv.

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post May 22 2011, 09:58 AM

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QUOTE(pierreye @ May 21 2011, 10:04 PM)
dragon age 2 had major problems in 3D. The light and sky are render at wrong level. Nvidia just release a beta driver 275 that support majority of the Samsung new 3D TV. Just connect your pc HDMI output directly to your receiver (1.4 compatible) then to your display. The driver should detect 1.4 3D compatible display and enable 3DTV Play. If you can't get nvidia to detect your display, then you need EDID hack.

If you do not have a 1.4 compatible receiver, you need to connect the HDMI output to your receiver and get a DVI to HDMI adapter and connect to the video card and have another cable directly to your tv.
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Oh... currently im using the EDID hack...
--Previously i use generic driver for my TV to use 3dplay, cant get that resolution. I play 3d game.. no problem (this i direct connect using hdmi-hdmi or dvi-hdmi)-- This is the EDID Hack

--Now, i use update driver (which supposely support my tv), cannot use 3dtvplay at all... wat laaa, nvidia..-- this im refering to the new 3dtv play driver 270.61 with 3DTV Play Update Utility 1.0.0.25

Anyway, seems that my method is correct.. connecting direct to the tv...
hmm... why i still cant get the resolution u suggested.. nvm, i'll relook again... hmmm

Not sure on the sky issues.. perhaps it has been resolved in their latest driver... im using the latest driver

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pierreye
post May 22 2011, 12:51 PM

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The sky issues will not fix from driver point of view. It's the game developer that had to fix the problem. As it's the same engine as Mass Effect 2, I doubt they will solve the problem.
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post May 23 2011, 08:55 AM

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QUOTE(pierreye @ May 22 2011, 12:51 PM)
The sky issues will not fix from driver point of view. It's the game developer that had to fix the problem. As it's the same engine as Mass Effect 2, I doubt they will solve the problem.
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This seems to be very interesting... Anyway, i try to check the sky when I'm playing the game later. Didnt notice this before...
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post May 23 2011, 10:20 AM

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QUOTE(pierreye @ May 21 2011, 10:04 PM)
dragon age 2 had major problems in 3D. The light and sky are render at wrong level. Nvidia just release a beta driver 275 that support majority of the Samsung new 3D TV. Just connect your pc HDMI output directly to your receiver (1.4 compatible) then to your display. The driver should detect 1.4 3D compatible display and enable 3DTV Play. If you can't get nvidia to detect your display, then you need EDID hack.

If you do not have a 1.4 compatible receiver, you need to connect the HDMI output to your receiver and get a DVI to HDMI adapter and connect to the video card and have another cable directly to your tv.
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My reciever dont support HDMI 1.4 , thus i connected the only HDMI slot from HTPC to receiver for sound and use the DVI to HDMI adapter connected to the DVI slot at video card then HDMI cable to my Optoma HD67 projector. Unfortunately, the picture quality droped such as color faded and resolution drop. This may be due to my video card still detect my receiver to ouput the video instead of PJ. Wonder EDID hack will helps or the resolution setting is wrong. Need to spend more time to get it work for the workaround.

I havent try it but wonder the with above setup, will i able to get audio bitstream to receiver when watching 3D movie? or at least can bitstream for 2D movie?




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post May 23 2011, 11:05 AM

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Danny, you need to set DVI output as Primary Display. The resolution should be 720p 120hz. Ask Ninja how he setup his HD66. Also, in Nvidia, select RGB as output. If Nvidia can detect your display as 3D Vision compatible, I don't think you need EDID overide.

Try this first, unplug the HDMI from PC to Receiver and use Digital Output. Check if the PQ is OK.
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post May 24 2011, 01:30 AM

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Pierreye, again thanks for your advice, i got both DVI and HDMI worked together where i have both 3D and bitstream.

Now, my HD 3D movie and 3D games journey begin smile.gif
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post May 24 2011, 01:16 PM

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QUOTE(Dannyoski @ May 24 2011, 01:30 AM)
Pierreye, again thanks for your advice, i got both DVI and HDMI worked together where i have both 3D and bitstream.

Now, my HD 3D movie and 3D games journey begin smile.gif
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Enjoy your 3D movie and game. Post some of your impression here so that we have more 3D convert. Let me know how's the PQ in 3D compare to H5360BD.

Recommended games for pc
1. Just cause 2 (very good 3d with some pop out)
2. Resident evil 5 (water reflection corruption, only affect some level)
3. Crysis 2
4. Bad company 2
5. Batman AA
6. dead rising 2.

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post May 25 2011, 12:18 AM

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QUOTE(pierreye @ May 24 2011, 01:16 PM)
Enjoy your 3D movie and game. Post some of your impression here so that we have more 3D convert. Let me know how's the PQ in 3D compare to H5360BD.

Recommended games for pc
1. Just cause 2 (very good 3d with some pop out)
2. Resident evil 5 (water reflection corruption, only affect some level)
3. Crysis 2
4. Bad company 2
5. Batman AA
6. dead rising 2.
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The HD67 is too bright (not yet calibrate) when set to 120hz, further more my room is painted white..... but once in 3D, its just nice. i might need to put a lens to use in 2D mode per your suggestion to block some of the light or change it back to 60hz. Watched few movie in 3D and really addicted to it. Hope for more 3D movie down the road. Too bad i only have 1 DLP link glass and only 1 person watching at a time. smile.gif , plan to get another one from 3Dheaven and best is can tag along someone who plan to get it to save the shipping cost.

Not dare to play Fatal Frame 4 in 3D, 2D is scary enough sweat.gif plan to get crysis 2 and Just cause 2 to test the 3D effect especially the pop out . Try the StarCraft II and i like it but many render error especially the story part.

I noticed that HD67 is brighter in 3D mode compared with H5360BD, but this is not apple to apple comparison as it is from different room, HTPC, PJ screen setup. Another observation, a lots of RBE from HD67 where i dont see it in H5360BD.

The Ultraclear DLP link glass is sync up pretty well with the HD67, didnt observed any disconnection up to now or may be i havent notice it yet.
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post May 25 2011, 09:56 AM

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Get a good Hoya multicoated ND2 filter for camera. If you use HTPC for 2D video playback, there is an advantage using 120hz as it reduce judder, no need 3:2 pulldown. 120hz/24 = 5:5 which is just nice for smooth panning. Remember to turn off DLP-Link in 120hz mode when watching 2D movie as the DLP Flash kill the contrast and the video would be too bright .

UltraClear DLP link glasses is pretty good in stereo sync. Once you start to experience intermittent sync issue, it's time to change the battery. I get 10 pieces of Tesco CR2032 battery which is quite cheap.

Transformer 3 3D and Kungfu Panda 2 3D are must have coming soon title. Once you see in 3D, there is no going back rclxms.gif

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post May 25 2011, 09:11 PM

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I'm very interested to buy the GT30...any good place u guys can recommend?

Thanks smile.gif
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post May 25 2011, 10:45 PM

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QUOTE(RaedeanBF2 @ May 25 2011, 09:11 PM)
I'm very interested to buy the GT30...any good place u guys can recommend?

Thanks smile.gif
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R u from ipoh... i know one place already have this TV.... and already demoed it
oh yeah, the shop owner inform me that for this TV, they only bring the 42" size... bigger size 50" need to go for VT30 or the still good ST30...

Any comment from KL?
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post May 26 2011, 09:12 PM

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i'm from Selangor around subang area.... hmm.gif

Its hard when u wanna find the tv u wanted..haha
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post May 27 2011, 11:42 AM

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QUOTE(pierreye @ May 25 2011, 09:56 AM)
UltraClear DLP link glasses is pretty good in stereo sync. Once you start to experience intermittent sync issue, it's time to change the battery. I get 10 pieces of Tesco CR2032 battery which is quite cheap.

Transformer 3 3D and Kungfu Panda 2 3D are must have coming soon title. Once you see in 3D, there is no going back  rclxms.gif
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My UltraClear already started to have sync issues. I guess it's time to change the battery already.

Watched Kungfu Panda 2 in 3D yesterday. Pretty good 3D effects. Gonna get it later when release in Blu-Ray. thumbup.gif



Btw, Youtube now supports stereoscopic 3D.

    Nvidia and YouTube team up for 3D HTML5 videos

    Nvidia and YouTube (with a little help from Firefox) have teamed up to offer a library of 3D content for users of Nvidia 3D Vision glasses technology.

    You need to have the latest version of Firefox for this to work, but it's great to see some big name companies looking at 3D on the web and HTML5 functionality.

    "Starting with Firefox 4, WebM videos encoded with 3D data will be displayed in high-quality stereoscopic 3D using NVIDIA 3D Vision hardware," said Firefox's Erica Jostedt.

    "3D hardware has moved from movie theaters and into people's homes through TVs, laptop and desktop machines."

    Read more: http://www.techradar.com/news/internet/nvi...5#ixzz1NWLYNO2j








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post May 28 2011, 07:13 PM

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is there any review on Panny VT20K? can't seem to find one. what are the weaknesses of this model e.g. black crush... juddering etc.
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post May 30 2011, 05:23 PM

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QUOTE(azsace @ May 19 2011, 07:28 PM)
Hahah.. no la
ur question is quite unspecific.. very hard to answer...
u remember the TV u look at, what model?

I want to recommend the new samsung D550 plasma, but its very reflective since it doesnt have an anti reflective coating.
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QUOTE(yuszairi @ May 19 2011, 07:41 PM)
i got my plasma 51" samsung ps51d491 from senheng at rm3799.
promo still on until end of may
woryh buying on 0% 24mth epp. n very worth watching big screen esp astro b.yond content n 'jack sparrow' dvd biggrin.gif

if u r hardcore bluray n ps3, go for d550 as azsace recommend. priced ar rm4600 foc 2pcs 3d glass (cash n carry only)
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Hehe yea my question were quite unspecific. I can't recall the model but i know it's about 4k.

Perhaps i should change my question to what 3dtv is recommended for budget 4k sweat.gif

So you recommend the samsung D550 right? I also noticed that you there is another mention of D491, which i
assume is the lower end compared to D550. But D491 is cheaper and is 51'! Are you satisfied with the D491?
What is the price for D491 without promo? and lastly is the D491 reflective same as D550?

Phew...Sorry sifus for all the question.... sweat.gif
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post May 30 2011, 09:44 PM

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Bought latest sega tennis for ps3 yesterday and whole evening playing with it in 3d. Its better if have the move joy stick around. No need go tennis court so troublesome. At home also can exercise with a game of tennis in 3d!! Great effect too.

GO get urself a 3d tennis now. Great experience with it.
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post Jun 1 2011, 04:27 PM

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QUOTE(plateau @ May 30 2011, 05:23 PM)
Hehe yea my question were quite unspecific. I can't recall the model but i know it's about 4k.

Perhaps i should change my question to what 3dtv is recommended for budget 4k  sweat.gif

So you recommend the samsung D550 right? I also noticed that you there is another mention of D491, which i
assume is the lower end compared to D550. But D491 is cheaper and is 51'! Are you satisfied with the D491?
What is the price for D491 without promo? and lastly is the D491 reflective same as D550?

Phew...Sorry sifus for all the question.... sweat.gif
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for about rm4k, the good tv is the 51" d490...
d550 is full hd model...
I hav the hd ready 51 d490 which is HD ready.. still look superb
yep.. definitely happy with my purchase...

in term of reflectivity..plasma d490, d550 n d6900 has the same glaring and reflection issues since they dont hav the anti reflective coating...
for malasia market, only the plasma d8000 series has the anti-reflection coating...

price for ps51d490 is less than 4k.. if u r good u can get it for around rm3850... or even lower price

if u hav around 6k, a better tv is the new pana 50st30...


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QUOTE(asherteoh @ May 28 2011, 07:13 PM)
is there any review on Panny VT20K? can't seem to find one. what are the weaknesses of this model e.g. black crush... juddering etc.
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u can try find some answer in the pana post

on my test..
the biggest problem with this 3dtv is issues of loss sync between the 3d glasses n tv...

other u want to know, floating black.. i have demoed this tv at various shop, n find this is non issues to me.. once in a while u can notice that the contrast changes, but rarely happens, i dont find it annoying

some users, might be bother with this...

the reason i didnt bought this tv was because of the loss sync issues.. cause my criteria, comfortable 3dtv..


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QUOTE(dannygeni @ May 30 2011, 09:44 PM)
Bought latest sega tennis for ps3 yesterday and whole evening playing with it in 3d. Its better if have the move joy stick around. No need go tennis court so troublesome. At home also can exercise with a game of tennis in 3d!! Great effect too.

GO get urself a 3d tennis now. Great experience with it.
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hmm... interesting

i was thinking to get this game as well... will look into this..

sega.. is virtua tennis right???

This post has been edited by azsace: Jun 1 2011, 04:33 PM
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QUOTE(azsace @ Jun 1 2011, 04:27 PM)
for about rm4k, the good tv is the 51" d490...
d550 is full hd model... 
I hav the hd ready 51 d490 which is HD ready.. still look superb
yep.. definitely happy with my purchase...

in term of reflectivity..plasma d490, d550 n d6900 has the same glaring and reflection issues since they dont hav the anti reflective coating...
for malasia market, only the plasma d8000 series has the anti-reflection coating...

price for ps51d490 is less than 4k.. if u r good u can get it for around rm3850... or even lower price

if u hav around 6k, a better tv is the new pana 50st30...


Added on June 1, 2011, 4:32 pm

u can try find some answer in the pana post

on my test..
the biggest problem with this 3dtv is issues of loss sync between the 3d glasses n tv...

other u want to know, floating black.. i have demoed this tv at various shop, n find this is non issues to me.. once in a while u can notice that the contrast changes, but rarely happens, i dont find it annoying

some users, might be bother with this...

the reason i didnt bought this tv was because of the loss sync issues.. cause my criteria, comfortable 3dtv..


Added on June 1, 2011, 4:33 pm

hmm... interesting

i was thinking to get this game as well... will look into this..

sega.. is virtua tennis right???
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azcase,

Did u experience the loss of sync urself?

I have set up a couple of the VT20 for some people and I did not have this issue in the home for both types of glasses....
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post Jun 1 2011, 06:00 PM

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yup virtua tennis..the gamespot review not that good..anyway i like the 3D part and tennis

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