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post Apr 28 2011, 03:40 PM

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QUOTE(MoonRider @ Apr 28 2011, 10:31 AM)
if plasma .. panasonic should be the one u should looking for .. panasonic is more focus on plasma ..
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Yep, currently panasonic makes the best plasma. If planning to get a 3D Plasma, wait for the 2011 model.. the ST30, GT30 and VT30


Added on April 28, 2011, 3:42 pm
QUOTE(Boy96 @ Apr 21 2011, 08:48 PM)
Its a Sony, should be good right?
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Can share what 3D TV u get?

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post Apr 28 2011, 06:57 PM

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QUOTE(azsace @ Apr 28 2011, 03:40 PM)

Can share what 3D TV u get?
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LG 42LX6500, but watching 3D is so dizzy using this TV coz got alot of crosstalk
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post Apr 29 2011, 10:33 AM

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QUOTE(Boy96 @ Apr 28 2011, 06:57 PM)
LG 42LX6500, but watching 3D is so dizzy using this TV coz got alot of crosstalk
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Hmm... all not lost. My recommendation for playing 3D content, reduce the brighlight, contrast and also gamma.

LG 42LX6500 is an LED TV, so ghosting/crosstalk is more noticeable compared to plasma.

Cheap or expensive is not actually make the product good. As you know, I'm using a HD Ready 3D plasma which cost around 4k.. I think my plasma is more cheaper than ur LED/LCD 3DTV.

Oh yeah, on the good side, this LG is not the worst 3DTV... currently the worst 3DTV (read from forum and other reviewer), the honours goest to SONY EX720 series... (For 3D content only, but do take note for 2D content, this TV have a very good review)
U can read the review here... http://www.trustedreviews.com/sony-bravia-...ex723_TV_review
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post May 3 2011, 12:04 AM

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Hi azsace,

I am planning to get a 46" LED 3D TV?
I was hoping you will recommend me a good one ( current model )
or should i wait for a better one? ( upcoming model )
hope to hear from u soon.
thx in advance.


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post May 3 2011, 04:21 PM

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QUOTE(livedangel @ May 3 2011, 12:04 AM)
Hi azsace,

I am planning to get a 46" LED 3D TV?
I was hoping you will recommend me a good one ( current model )
or should i wait for a better one? ( upcoming model )
hope to hear from u soon.
thx in advance.
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As far as 3DTV concern (as of this year), I would avoid recommending people to get LED 3DTV... However, there is some postive review on the net on some 2011 LED 3DTV model..

On pana 2011 model, they have been some great review on the DT30 series on 3D performance which is said to be almost as good as typical 2011 plasma 3DTV. But the bad new, its come only with 32 and 37 size
This TV is not out in Msia yet, most likely to be at end of May, thus I have not actually test it

On Samsung 2011 LED 3DTV... their lower end UAXXD6600 series 3D performance is not impressive at all. I have quick tested it during my search for 3DTV... Noticeable crosstalk/ghosting
But all not lost since their higher end model, the UAXXD7000 (motion rate of 600) and UAXXD8000 (motion rate of 800) have received good review from the user. So, im looking forward to quick test it if its available at local shop

On Sony 2011 LED 3DTV, I have tested the EX720 series, and I find it to be the worst 3D performance.... They have higher end model, such as the HX920,HX820 and HX720. But I'm not sure whether they will sell this model im Msia.
Other series is NX720... which I would avoid as well.

In a way, to rank the 2011 current LED 3DTV
i. Panasonic DT30
ii. Samsung UAXXD8000
iii. Samsung UAXXD7000

Oh yeah, I havent read any reviews on Sharp 2011 LE830 model and LG 2011 LW7700/LW9500. Oh yeah, LG will introduce passive 3DTV, model LW6500/LW5700


Any particular reason why u dont want to get a plasma??? And avoid 2010 model

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post May 3 2011, 08:56 PM

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problem with sony current line up is that they still offering last year's 3D glasses TDG-BR100 and TDG-BR50. There is a new 3D glasses TDG-BR250 which promises better 3D performance but its not released in Malaysia yet.

HX series wise, Sony seems to be only bringing in the HX92x series but not the HX82x, HX72x series.
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post May 4 2011, 12:34 AM

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QUOTE(azsace @ May 3 2011, 04:21 PM)
As far as 3DTV concern (as of this year), I would avoid recommending people to get LED 3DTV... However, there is some postive review on the net on some 2011 LED 3DTV model..

On pana 2011 model, they have been some great review on the DT30 series on 3D performance which is said to be almost as good as typical 2011 plasma 3DTV. But the bad new, its come only with 32 and 37 size
This TV is not out in Msia yet, most likely to be at end of May, thus I have not actually test it

On Samsung 2011 LED 3DTV... their lower end UAXXD6600 series 3D performance is not impressive at all. I have quick tested it during my search for 3DTV... Noticeable crosstalk/ghosting
But all not lost since their higher end model, the UAXXD7000 (motion rate of 600) and UAXXD8000 (motion rate of 800) have received good review from the user. So, im looking forward to quick test it if its available at local shop

On Sony 2011 LED 3DTV, I have tested the EX720 series, and I find it to be the worst 3D performance.... They have higher end model, such as the HX920,HX820 and HX720. But I'm not sure whether they will sell this model im Msia.
Other series is NX720... which I would avoid as well.

In a way, to rank the 2011 current LED 3DTV
i. Panasonic DT30
ii. Samsung UAXXD8000
iii. Samsung UAXXD7000

Oh yeah, I havent read any reviews on Sharp 2011 LE830 model and LG 2011 LW7700/LW9500. Oh yeah, LG will introduce passive 3DTV, model LW6500/LW5700
Any particular reason why u dont want to get a plasma??? And avoid 2010 model
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Thanks for the great advise.
The reason i'm choosing led is bcoz im currently using samsung (ua46b8000), and i'm in love with the colour, contrast and clarity.
The only thing im not satisfied is the Auto Motion Plus.
So far the current samsung ua46c8000 is only 200Hz, which i believe 3d technology require a higher motion plus in order to produce a better quality picture & total new gaming experience.
correct me if im wrong.
Guess i'll wait for the new series to come, hopefull with better features.
Thanks again.

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QUOTE(livedangel @ May 4 2011, 12:34 AM)
Thanks for the great advise.
The reason i'm choosing led is bcoz im currently using samsung (ua46b8000), and i'm in love with the colour, contrast and clarity.
The only thing im not satisfied is the Auto Motion Plus.
So far the current samsung ua46c8000 is only 200Hz, which i believe 3d technology require a higher motion plus in order to produce a better quality picture & total new gaming experience.
correct me if im wrong.
Guess i'll wait for the new series to come, hopefull with better features.
Thanks again.
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panasonic 37 DT30 also 200hz wink.gif
http://panasonic.net/avc/viera/asia2011/product/dt_lcd.html
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post May 4 2011, 11:45 AM

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QUOTE(fx_53_xt @ May 3 2011, 08:56 PM)
problem with sony current line up is that they still offering last year's 3D glasses TDG-BR100 and TDG-BR50. There is a new 3D glasses TDG-BR250 which promises better 3D performance but its not released in Malaysia yet.

HX series wise, Sony seems to be only bringing in the HX92x series but not the HX82x, HX72x series.
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Hmm... thanks for the info... A bit funny on their marketing strategy, perhaps the dont want to dilute their high-end 3D sales...


Added on May 4, 2011, 12:35 pm
QUOTE(livedangel @ May 4 2011, 12:34 AM)
Thanks for the great advise.
The reason i'm choosing led is bcoz im currently using samsung (ua46b8000), and i'm in love with the colour, contrast and clarity.
The only thing im not satisfied is the Auto Motion Plus.
So far the current samsung ua46c8000 is only 200Hz, which i believe 3d technology require a higher motion plus in order to produce a better quality picture & total new gaming experience.
correct me if im wrong.
Guess i'll wait for the new series to come, hopefull with better features.
Thanks again.
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No worries. Glad to help.
Anyway, before I bought my 3DTV, I was thinking to get a LED 3DTV but due to unfavorable outcome when I demoed the unit at the shop (significant crosstalk/ghosting), I bought a Plasma 3DTV instead. Did some further studies n research regarding crosstalk/ghosting in LED, n due to panel switching from energized state to off state, reducing ghosting to an acceptable level (in par with Plasma) in LED 3DTV is definitely a challege.

Oh yeah, if u worried about plasma screen reflection and glaring, you can check out samsung D8000 Plasma 3DTV with their real black filter (Pity in msia we dont have samsung D7000 Plasma 3DTV)
And to make it more interesting, try to compare it with their LED counterpart samsung D8000 LED 3DTV. See whether you can tell the difference...


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post May 10 2011, 05:57 AM

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can somebody comment on Sony NX720.....
there s an offer nx720 40"+ Bluray BPD S370+ GLSSES
For arnd RM 5000
WORTH???
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QUOTE(pierreye @ Apr 9 2011, 01:49 PM)
I had done more testing with Acer H5360BD and overall I would say the 3D is awesome. It's better than local cinema 3D because the color is still saturated and zero crosstalk. I try few movies and also play some 3D pc game such as MOH and the 3D experience is superb. Total cost is quite cheap compare to 3D TV and the big screen does make a huge different for 3D.

If you are using 1080p SBS and using HTPC for playback, download the nvidia stereo player. Then use ffdshow as the codec, resize the video to 2560x768. This will give you a very sharp picture.

Overall, in 2D, full HD projector is sharper than 720p projector. But once in 3D mode, you no longer can differentiate the pixel in 720p.
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Another good software for HTPC 3D playback; PowerDVD 10 and 11. Can convert 2D content to 3D as well. biggrin.gif I'm currently using it. Very vivid colours and quite sharp also in 3D mode.

Thinking of getting Legends of The Guardians 3D Blu-Ray. Anyone bought it already?
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I prefer TMT 5 compare to PowerDVD 10. I normally turn off additional video processing for software player. I don't like the dynamic contrast enhancer. I see you have the same 3D glasses as mine. Just finished BFBC2 again but in 3D this time. Only problem with the game is sky is not rendered at correct depth but overall still very impressive. I prefer PC 3D gaming compare to PS3 3D gaming as visual quality is higher.

I also try Fatal Frame 4 but run it in Dolphin Emulator which support 3D vision as I want 3D experience and after playing for 20 mins, I turn it off. It's very scary in 3D and don't want to get heart attack playing in the dark.

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QUOTE(pierreye @ May 10 2011, 02:38 PM)
I prefer TMT 5 compare to PowerDVD 10. I normally turn off additional video processing for software player. I don't like the dynamic contrast enhancer. I see you have the same 3D glasses as mine. Just finished BFBC2 again but in 3D this time. Only problem with the game is sky is not rendered at correct depth but overall still very impressive. I prefer PC 3D gaming compare to PS3 3D gaming as visual quality is higher.

I also try Fatal Frame 4 but run it in Dolphin Emulator which support 3D vision as I want 3D experience and after playing for 20 mins, I turn it off. It's very scary in 3D and don't want to get heart attack playing in the dark.
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You're using the DLP glasses or 3D Vision? Yeah, PS3 game in 3D is quite limited. The best I tried so far; MotorStorm and Super Stardust. Others, just average and sometimes frame rate not very stable in 3D, cross-talk, etc.
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I'm using UltraClear DLP Link glasses with 3DTVPlay. You should try it out as PC 3D gaming is much superior to PS3 3D gaming + more variety.
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QUOTE(pierreye @ May 10 2011, 05:49 PM)
I'm using UltraClear DLP Link glasses with 3DTVPlay. You should try it out as PC 3D gaming is much superior to PS3 3D gaming + more variety.
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I see. Same as mine. You got it from Ultimate3DHeaven also? Currently, using the UltraClear with my PS3, and NVIDIA 3D Vision with my PC.

So, BFBC2 3D implementation is good? I'll give it a try later. biggrin.gif
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Yep. I get it from Ultimate3DHeaven. I also done some simple mod using soft gel nose pad and feel more comfortable. BFBC2 is very good except the sky at screen depth issue but not a huge problem. Try out bulletstorm for pc too which had no rendering issue.
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QUOTE(nerA @ May 10 2011, 05:57 AM)
can somebody comment on Sony NX720.....
there s an offer nx720 40"+ Bluray BPD S370+ GLSSES
For arnd RM 5000
WORTH???
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Cant give a comment on this TV. But i did try the ex720 a few weeks back. The 3D experience was very unpleasant.

From the spec, the NX720 is a 100hz frequency panel with XR200 MotionFlow engine. The EX720 panel is also a 100hz frequency panel with XR200 MotionFlow engine. But I dont think they share the same panel, EX720 might uses Samsung Panel, and NX720 might be Sharp

Oh yeah when you test the TV, do use the new 2011 3D glasses, TDG-BR250/ TDG-BR200/

If you have the opportunity, you can try the pana plasma GT30 42". Just check it out since pana has improved their anti reflection coating for their 2011 model.

Read this out to know where does the panel comes http://www.avforums.com/forums/lcd-led-lcd...els-placed.html

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HI guys..i'm planning to get the Panasonic TH-P42GT20K..for obvious reason of 3d. Is it recommended?. unsure.gif




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QUOTE(RaedeanBF2 @ May 13 2011, 04:29 PM)
HI guys..i'm planning to get the Panasonic TH-P42GT20K..for obvious reason of 3d. Is it recommended?.  unsure.gif
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Well.. it is a good buy... but if possible, you should get the new model. TH-P42GT30K, this is the 2011 model. I managed to demoed the 3DTV recently... managed to see it side by side with VT20K and PS43D490.
My opinion during that demo
the best was
i. Pana GT30K
ii. 2010 Pana VT20K hav a slight advantage with the 2011 Samsung D490.. seems that the D490 has noticeable crosstalk during high contrast screen.. other than that, near 3d performance

GT20K is 2010 model. Oh yeah, when I tried this model, the only thing I was unhappy was the loss of sync of the 3d glasses with the TV.. Any GT20 series owner want to comment on this...
For 2010 model, my opinion of their 3d glasses sync, the best was Sony, Sharp, the not that good, Pana.. the worst was samsung... This is for 2010 model...

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how bout this LG CINEMA 3D TV...comin soon... LG 3D 2011

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