Thanks for the reply man...i tried googling it but no input

It was between as u suggested above...

Havent actually seen this TV yet in the market, is it out yet?

However manage to read some technical paper regarding this FPR (Film Patterned Retarder) technology uses by LG. Definitely have some pros and cons. Anyway, "LG Display claims that FPR nearly eliminates the “crosstalk,’’ or overlap of images, and flickering, which is a frequent problem reported by shutter-glasses 3D television viewers after long viewing hours"

Eliminates flickering.. from the technical discussion, this is true since the polarised 3D glasses doesnt uses any active component like its active shutter counterpart.. The only way, active shutter will not have any flickering issues if they uses 100Hz/120Hz response rate for each eye (making the 3d glasses response at 240Hz, now active glasses has 120hz response)
Most likely with this technology (passive), 3D can be watch in a well lit room (currently active can only be watched at low-lit environment)

Eliminates crosstalk/ghosting. Seems this a debate from the technical paper I read, if u manage to eyeview is perpendicular (angular at 0deg) to the TV screen, the passive 3DTV can manage crosstalk much more better compared to active 3DTV... but if ur viewing angle is more than +/-15deg, the crosstalk performance is worst compared to active...
To have a better understanding, read it here http://www.tcodevelopment.com/pls/nvp/docu...id=4146&mid=821

Anyway, hope I can demoed this TV and see whether is true or not... if other forumer can demoed the TV, just give their first impression here..

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Added on May 15, 2011, 12:22 pmHmm, legend of the guardian, can't comment on this 3D movie. Anyway, from my experience, if the movie was done in CG, the 3D implementation is very good...
But usually, when I bought blu ray, i will always ask myself whether the movie is fun to watch and can watch many2 times.... Legend of The Guardian, is it really a nice movie?
Oh yeah, if u have the time u can download the 3D demo here http://www.3dtvworld.com.au/3d-downloads/
It can give u a better idea how it looks like... its a sbs format



This post has been edited by azsace: May 15 2011, 12:22 PM

I saw a lg plasma 3dtv for about 4k (50'). Is this a good choice? or is there other brands you recommend that can get about the same price and same size?

went to harvey norman at ikano today, they said next month maybe this LG CINEMA 3D is comin to the shores..and its LED only...

This post has been edited by krk24: May 16 2011, 12:50 AM

Yep.. for passive 3D is only applicable to their low end and mid end
Their high end still uses active shutter, and all their plasma uses active shutter...

Oh yeah, I notice, only the 400/480Hz uses active shutter, the 200/240Hz and 100/120Hz uses passive...

This post has been edited by azsace: May 17 2011, 09:20 AM

this LG ah, no take responsibilty, at least fix the goddamn crosstalk issue in the LX6500 series via firmware update before launching new model la, dah la the LX6500 is barely a year...

This looks like an interesting device that converts any non 3D display to a 3D display.

3D VIP Products

There is a thread in AVS Forum discussing about this as well.

Wonder how it works?

Looks like most owners mention if the VIP product is use with 60hz TV or projector, there is noticeable flicker due to low refresh rate. Doesn't match well with LCD TV or projector due to severe ghosting but 60hz DLP Projector seems to eliminate the ghosting with RF emitter and RF glasses (same as Monster RF glasses which had few tuning parameters to adjust the sync signal/shutter on/off delay). Looks like older gen JVC LCOS projectors are having issue too as the sync will drift due to no frame lock in older firmware.

The VIP Displayer is quite expensive with RF glasses which is close to USD 600. I would advice get a cheap 720p DLP 3D projector until 1080p DLP 3D projector is affordable.

Trust me on this, 3D need to be seen in BIG SCREEN...

This post has been edited by pierreye: May 19 2011, 07:37 AM

Hmmm, true2, at least if they update the firmware, the 3d quality improve a bit...
Anyway, did u try to reduce the backlight of the TV, see whether the 3D is watchable or not..
btw, u use 3d for gaming or movies?

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Added on May 19, 2011, 8:57 amWow.. expensive.. maybe not worth the money..
Anyway, DLP 3D projector is great, if u have a movie room.. other than that, a bit unpractical...

Btw, what ur screen size???

This post has been edited by azsace: May 19 2011, 08:57 AM

True, but in my case, I am only interested in seeing football in 3D, although 60in is considered small compared to a pj, but at the moment, the display is a 2D display with no way of watching 3D content. This might be a good "in between" until a proper plasma that can give the same specs as my current display. For movies, yes, I think a proper 3D pj might be much better.

The important question that is not answered is it will even work with a plasma tv.

So far no one tested with plasma as 3D Plasma TV is cheap in US. You can check out VIP testing database for compatible display.

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Added on May 19, 2011, 12:09 pm114" 1.4 gain screen. Few that had watch Avatar 3D on 720p projector had the same feeling, it's better than our local cinema. The color, 3D depth, crosstalk, black level is way better than our local cinema.

This post has been edited by pierreye: May 19 2011, 12:12 PM

Sorry guys but maybe my question is a dumb one so no one want to answer

Hahah.. no la
ur question is quite unspecific.. very hard to answer...
u remember the TV u look at, what model?

I want to recommend the new samsung D550 plasma, but its very reflective since it doesnt have an anti reflective coating.

This post has been edited by azsace: May 19 2011, 07:30 PM

i got my plasma 51" samsung ps51d491 from senheng at rm3799.
promo still on until end of may
woryh buying on 0% 24mth epp. n very worth watching big screen esp astro b.yond content n 'jack sparrow' dvd

if u r hardcore bluray n ps3, go for d550 as azsace recommend. priced ar rm4600 foc 2pcs 3d glass (cash n carry only)

This post has been edited by yuszairi: May 19 2011, 07:43 PM

Indeed, it is very poison after watching Avatar 3D on 720p projector. I had bought 1 to replace my 2D PJ setup.

I'm using one of their product for my PS3. The 3D-Gamer~ Convert 3D signal from my PS3 so it can be recognized from my Optoma HD66; a 3D-Ready projector. Cheap price compare to Optoma 3D-XL adapter. The result is very-very good. 3D signal never lose sync with my projector. Very easy setup; and the adapter is very small; a size of your portable 2.5" HDD.

This post has been edited by Ninja: May 20 2011, 06:40 PM

Anfieldude is looking for VIP displayer which allow 60hz 3D. 3D gamer only support 120hz display and doesn't support SBS.

Yeah, thats correct. 3D-Gamer only for PlayStation 3 3D games - Blu-Ray 3D disc playback not supported. I'm using my HTPC for 3D SBS and 3D Blu-Ray, so 3D-Gamer enough for me already.

3D-Displayer and 3D-Theater both support 60Hz and 120Hz, but only 3D-Theater support 3D SBS and 3D top-bottom. Abit pricy for 3D-Theater. It's best to get 3D-Ready movie/game playback projector like yours. No need adapters~

Actually I prefer HTPC for SBS movie. I feel that the built in scaler not so good. But if you watch Astro 3D program which is SBS, then you need projector that can support SBS or external converter. Only advantage I can see is 1080p 24hz 3D and 720p framepacking from PS3. Using Nvidia Stereoscopic Player + ffdshow and resize option to 2560x720 with Lancoz algorithm give me the best quality for SBS movie. But if possible, I still prefer either L/R separate MKV file or 3D ISO format.

Good, good... me ada geng. I tot me lone ranger on this TV... So, whats your opinion on this TV (PS51D490)?

The only bad thing about this TV is it doesnt have an anti reflective coating.. other than that, superb

Hmm, i wish next year samsung can make their HD ready TV with real black filter... Now I truly convince that Full HD is not really important... after more than 2 month using this TV

Wow, now the TV really cheap... u get with 2 glass or 1 glass?

So, before this u full HD or use HD ready only... u think got difference?

hmmm, the d550 is rm4600, d490 is rm3800, around 800 difference, if plus another 250 can get ps3 n play 'jack sparrow' game...

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Added on May 21, 2011, 9:40 pmhmm, funny...
need ur advise, how ur connect ur PC to ur projector, is it 2 cross 1 (2dvi out to 1hdmi), or direct cable (hdmi to hdmi)

Previously i use generic driver for my TV to use 3dplay, cant get that resolution. I play 3d game.. no problem (this i direct connect using hdmi-hdmi or dvi-hdmi)
Now, i use update driver (which supposely support my tv), cannot use 3dtvplay at all... wat laaa, nvidia.. anyway me revert back to generic
Now me busy with dragon age 2, so dont wanna do test on the 2cross cable 1. got some advise...

Oh yeah, u guys should play dragon age 2 in 3D....



This post has been edited by azsace: May 21 2011, 09:40 PM