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post Jun 30 2011, 04:27 PM

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QUOTE(RaedeanBF2 @ Jun 25 2011, 08:51 PM)
Just got my Nx720 from Sony Centre Midvalley ....3d quite impressive i guess....

I want to learn how to mingle around the settings....still a noob! tongue.gif
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learn and let us here know about the 3D quality of this NX720 . i feel tempted for the NX720
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post Jul 4 2011, 08:06 AM

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hihi all the sifus here....wanna ask which one is better in terms of features, 3d, 720p or 1080p, display etc....from this two models
Samsung plasma ps43d490 and lg pw450.....in term of price, both around rm24xx+....but i wanna know about which model is better....i can't find any official or forumer review for lg pw450....newbie in terms of lcd/led/plasma tv.... sweat.gif

btw i notice that lg pw450 have real cinema mode 24p which the samsung 1 dun have...am i right... hmm.gif

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post Jul 4 2011, 12:38 PM

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Add the sarowin anti reflection screen impression on first post
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post Jul 4 2011, 02:39 PM

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QUOTE(azsace @ Jul 4 2011, 12:38 PM)
Add the sarowin anti reflection screen impression on first post
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Thanks for the review of sarowin anti reflection screen. Really interesting info there ! rclxms.gif
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post Jul 4 2011, 02:58 PM

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anyone can suggest me a plasma tv 42" within range of 2.5k? Prefer if got 3D capabilities.

Anyway, TS thanks for the in depth review of plasma 3d TV especially on the glaring issue.

Now I am in a bit of dilemma dunno whether how bad this plasma glaring will affect my how viewing pleasure. Especially during day time viewing.
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post Jul 5 2011, 10:24 AM

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QUOTE(abubin @ Jul 4 2011, 02:58 PM)
anyone can suggest me a plasma tv 42" within range of 2.5k? Prefer if got 3D capabilities.

Anyway, TS thanks for the in depth review of plasma 3d TV especially on the glaring issue.

Now I am in a bit of dilemma dunno whether how bad this plasma glaring will affect my how viewing pleasure. Especially during day time viewing.
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Yep, plasma without anti reflection coating (ARC) does give reflection n glaring. but i dont think its a big issues cause its manageable....
u can install additional shades or just buy a good anti reflection screen...


Added on July 5, 2011, 10:28 am
QUOTE(abahwafi @ Jul 4 2011, 02:39 PM)
Thanks for the review of sarowin anti reflection screen. Really interesting info there ! rclxms.gif
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yep... overall is a good product..
depending on how critical r u... the picture quality lost wont be an issues.. but after installing the screen, the pq is still much better compared to most LED/LCD


Added on July 5, 2011, 10:48 am
QUOTE(Gaia34 @ Jul 4 2011, 08:06 AM)
hihi all the sifus here....wanna ask which one is better in terms of features, 3d, 720p or 1080p, display etc....from this two models
Samsung plasma ps43d490 and lg pw450.....in term of price, both around rm24xx+....but i wanna know about which model is better....i can't find any official or forumer review for lg pw450....newbie in terms of lcd/led/plasma tv.... sweat.gif

btw i notice that lg pw450 have real cinema mode 24p which the samsung 1 dun have...am i right... hmm.gif
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yep.. lg pw450 has a cinema mode, the function for blu ray playback with 24fps...
3d function, both are great
pq wise.. lg dark scene (black level) look a bit greenish (seems that it has some basic anti reflection coating)
glaring/reflection.. samsung gives reflection more

This post has been edited by azsace: Jul 5 2011, 10:48 AM
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post Jul 5 2011, 12:31 PM

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QUOTE(azsace @ Jul 5 2011, 10:24 AM)
Yep, plasma without anti reflection coating (ARC) does give reflection n glaring. but i dont think its a big issues cause its manageable....
u can install additional shades or just buy a good anti reflection screen...

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azsace, thanks for your replies and contribution into this thread explaining about plasma/led/lcd TV.

Errm...can you suggest me some models based of my requirement?
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QUOTE(abubin @ Jul 5 2011, 12:31 PM)
azsace, thanks for your replies and contribution into this thread explaining about plasma/led/lcd TV.

Errm...can you suggest me some models based of my requirement?
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only two option if u wanna 3d..
samsung ps51d490 or lg PW450

out of curiosity.. do u hav ps3? if u want to use 3d for movie.. not a good idea since not many good 3d movie...
for me. most of the time i use the 3d function for 3d games.. not so many good 3d movie

with that budget.. i would advise u to get a tv without the 3d function

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QUOTE(azsace @ Jul 5 2011, 01:05 PM)
only two option if u wanna 3d..
samsung ps51d490 or lg PW450

out of curiosity.. do u hav ps3? if u want to use 3d for movie.. not a good idea since not many good 3d movie...
for me. most of the time i use the 3d function for 3d games.. not so many good 3d movie

with that budget.. i would advise u to get a tv without the 3d function
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oh?? i will be mostly watching normal astro (maybe beyond later) and 2d movies (avi/mkv/rmvb). Won't be using it to play any consoles. Cause I thought with 3D, I can just enable the 3D in those avi movies and it will become 3D? Hehe..apparently I was mistaken. In this case I will go for without 3D then.

Any models to suggest without 3D? I might be dropping by Harvey Norman to take a look as what models they have. Or Kepong Desa Kompleks (heard they sell very cheap TVs).
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QUOTE(abubin @ Jul 5 2011, 02:51 PM)
oh?? i will be mostly watching normal astro (maybe beyond later) and 2d movies (avi/mkv/rmvb). Won't be using it to play any consoles. Cause I thought with 3D, I can just enable the 3D in those avi movies and it will become 3D? Hehe..apparently I was mistaken. In this case I will go for without 3D then.

Any models to suggest without 3D? I might be dropping by Harvey Norman to take a look as what models they have. Or Kepong Desa Kompleks (heard they sell very cheap TVs).
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well u can convert a 2d source to 3d.. but the effect wont be nice (all 3dtv has this function)... to me that function is kinda useless
for 2010 model, i like this model, samsung C6900, sharp LE820, sony ex710 (alphabet order)
for 2011 model, cant recommend u any nice model... but if u looking for basic LED... u cant go wrong with any of the manufacturer
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post Jul 6 2011, 05:11 PM

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Hi,

drop by here to ask which TV to buy...

1) Budget - very tight RM1500-1700
2) Prefer - Plasma 42" / LCD 32" above (if can 3d tv)
3) Spec - Full HD if any that suit my budget, anti reflection ready, good image even in two ceiling lights on..
4) Brand - Any
5) Watch more SD pictures..but who knows i might get a blu ray player in future as if i do buy..i will use tv for more that 5-10 years maybe...

Is there any Plasma / LCD tv that suit my budget..seen one in giant Samsung Plasma...but dont know which model...as the sales person says that one is new model from samsung..my guess is 8 series...

thanks in advance for advise...
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post Jul 7 2011, 10:55 AM

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QUOTE(Norameen @ Jul 6 2011, 05:11 PM)
Hi,

drop by here to ask which TV to buy...

1) Budget - very tight RM1500-1700
2) Prefer - Plasma 42" / LCD 32" above (if can 3d tv)
3) Spec - Full HD if any that suit my budget, anti reflection ready, good image even in two ceiling lights on..
4) Brand - Any
5) Watch more SD pictures..but who knows i might get a blu ray player in future as if i do buy..i will use tv for more that 5-10 years maybe...

Is there any Plasma / LCD tv that suit my budget..seen one in giant Samsung Plasma...but dont know which model...as the sales person says that one is new model from samsung..my guess is 8 series...

thanks in advance for advise...
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with ur budget.. n size.. best go for LCD TV...
can get the 2010 sharp LC40L650M or 2011 samsung LA40D550 (i think this one usually sell for rm1800)... if u can find the 2010 samsung LA40C650.. better

This post has been edited by azsace: Jul 7 2011, 10:58 AM
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post Jul 7 2011, 02:24 PM

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Hihi all the sifus...how's Samsung series 6 6400 3d led tv for rm3800 hmm.gif ....can't find any reviews for this model.... sweat.gif

really appreciate for any advises.... smile.gif
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QUOTE(Gaia34 @ Jul 7 2011, 02:24 PM)
Hihi all the sifus...how's Samsung series 6 6400 3d led tv for rm3800 hmm.gif ....can't find any reviews for this model.... sweat.gif

really appreciate for any advises....  smile.gif
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hmmm.. this is one of the good 3D LED for this year (better than sony ex720)... but again, crosstalk/ghosting is still not as good compared to low-end 3D plasma...
for 2D performance,.. this is the best TV so far, pq is great... the clear motion rate technology is one the best.

if u really want to get a 3D LED TV... u should compare first with a 3D plasma n see whether you are ok with the crosstalk/ghosting...

anyway... u can also compare with the new sharp 2011 model LE830 3D LED TV (retail price is around RM4300 at SH). Did make a quick demo on it... the 3D is as good as my plasma (or even better, since the screen its not reflective and the 3d image is brigtness is good).. i quick demoed the 46LE830 (retail price around rm6200)

oh yeah... if u cant test the TV with the sony 3d video (indy).. u can ask them to test it with 3d Tangled (the last scene with the lantern floating across the sky, see whether u can notice the ghosting from the lantern movement) or monster vs alien (the scene at the golden gate, where they beat giant robot, see whether u can notice the ghosting of the bridge cable movement)

This post has been edited by azsace: Jul 9 2011, 01:09 PM
G K Lai
post Jul 10 2011, 11:43 PM

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Hi azsace and all,

I have a question that I can't find the answer and hope someone here can help~ icon_question.gif

I am using Panasonic TH-P42GT20K 3DTV.
My viewing distance (from TV to my eye) is 6ft-7ft.

My problem is:
For certain 3D Blu-ray scene, when the editor (or director?) trying to show us subject which are very
close to our face (come out from TV effect), I will then see the scene very disturbing and uncomfortable.

If I take off the 3D Glass, I find the left-eye and right-eye pictures are separated too far away. Which I
think is the culprit that it lost the effect of "poking out"? I can't see the subject flying-out-and-hit-my-face
effect.

Question:
Is it the poorly designed/arranged scene or my eye's problem or my viewing distance that caused this?

However, for some other title or scene, I can see the effect of the subject jumps out of TV without problem. sweat.gif
And I have no problem seeing depth effects.

I'm sorry if you are confused with my question, I don't know a better way to describe this~ blush.gif
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QUOTE(G K Lai @ Jul 10 2011, 11:43 PM)
Hi azsace and all,

I have a question that I can't find the answer and hope someone here can help~  icon_question.gif

I am using Panasonic TH-P42GT20K 3DTV.
My viewing distance (from TV to my eye) is 6ft-7ft.

My problem is:
For certain 3D Blu-ray scene, when the editor (or director?) trying to show us subject which are very
close to our face (come out from TV effect), I will then see the scene very disturbing and uncomfortable.

If I take off the 3D Glass, I find the left-eye and right-eye pictures are separated too far away. Which I
think is the culprit that it lost the effect of "poking out"? I can't see the subject flying-out-and-hit-my-face
effect.

Question:
Is it the poorly designed/arranged scene or my eye's problem or my viewing distance that caused this?

However, for some other title or scene, I can see the effect of the subject jumps out of TV without problem.  sweat.gif
And I have no problem seeing depth effects.

I'm sorry if you are confused with my question, I don't know a better way to describe this~  blush.gif
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try go into 3D setting and reverse left/right priority... some Bluray may have reverse priority...

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QUOTE(calvin_ng @ Jul 11 2011, 02:07 PM)
try go into 3D setting and reverse left/right priority... some Bluray may have reverse priority...
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Huh? Ok thank you! Will try it tonight... never thought of it... tongue.gif doh.gif
Wish this will be a simple solution~ biggrin.gif
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Any thoughts on the passive technology by lg? specifically the LW5700.
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Anybody tried the LG PW450 3d plasma?Is 1024*768 resolution a big problem?
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QUOTE(reign226 @ Jul 12 2011, 09:35 AM)
Any thoughts on the passive technology by lg? specifically the LW5700.
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Earlier, I put my impression on this TV... http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/1825421/+80#
conclusion was "Conclusion, I can say... watching 3d blu ray wont be an issues cause most viewer level within the top/bottom viewing angle (i donno if somebody like to watch movie standing up)... half resolution lost for live movie is likely not an issues, but for animation, it does look a bit soft but does not impair the viewing pleasure
for gaming.. since im playing game like socom which require me to stand up.. this might be an issues due to top/bottom viewing angle..."

other forumer can give additional info as well

and to add, i would avoid in getting bigger screen size for this model (55").. surprisingly, with bigger screen u can actually notice the scan lines.. if u sit close enough (like approximaly 2m)... (since its a 55" TV, the recommended viewing distance is approximate 2.3m, perhaps if i sit at this distance i wont notice the scan line)


Added on July 14, 2011, 11:32 am
QUOTE(sentinal3_16 @ Jul 13 2011, 07:36 PM)
Anybody tried the LG PW450 3d plasma?Is 1024*768 resolution a big problem?
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if u using it as a PC.. definitely going to be a problem

oh yeah.. 1024X768 uses rectangular pixel to get the 16/9 ratio... for most people they cant tell the difference (non pc usage).. for me personally, this is an annoyance.

This post has been edited by azsace: Jul 14 2011, 11:32 AM

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