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post Aug 12 2019, 10:04 PM

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QUOTE(guy3288 @ Aug 12 2019, 04:26 PM)
Reset in your example, the money run from SSPN accounts may not be obvious

2018  Acc 1 =Dep RM8k, Acc 2=WD RM8k ------>Nett Deposit 0 , no tax relief
2019 no WD, Deposit RM8k ----->Tax relief RM8k
2020 WD RM8k, no deposit ----> No tax relief
2021 Deposit RM8k---------> want to claim tax relief RM8k
Consider below scenario.

Brought forward balance RM50k
2018 Dec =Deposit RM8k , Balance =RM58k ------>claim tax relief RM8k

2019 Jan withdraw RM58k,
2019  Dec Deposit back RM66k ------------->claim tax relief RM8k

2020 Jan withdraw all RM66k, no deposit -----------> 0 Tax relief

2021 Deposit back RM8k only -------->can claim tax relief RM8k?
still i think not worth sacrifice 1 year tax relief
just to avoid putting back the money.
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Yup not worth it.

If I know about the combined statement last year, I would have put in the amount of money required for the tax relief.

The method of depositing during year end time and withdrawal next Jan or Feb its kind of wasting my time so didnt do it this year.

Just dump in 8k every Jan and repeat next year.
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post Aug 13 2019, 08:40 AM

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QUOTE(kyle_kl @ Aug 13 2019, 08:36 AM)
hi, if both parent want to claim tax RM8k separately, both have to deposit RM8k each to the child sspn? So the child sspn will have RM16k?
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Both need to open an account for:-

Child A account under Father Name
Child A account under Mother Name

Yes, 8k each.
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post Aug 17 2019, 09:03 AM

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QUOTE(guy3288 @ Aug 16 2019, 10:05 PM)
churning money out is not wasting time to me
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Initially i felt worth to do it in 2015, 2016 & 2017.

Probably because I'm older now, felt tired to withdraw/deposit yearly and crack my head on where to put the money to generate more return.

QUOTE(kmarc @ Aug 17 2019, 08:39 AM)
Don't just dump in money when there is no promotion. Wait for some promotion, usually extra lucky draws before dumping in. With the ease of depositing online, it takes like 5 minutes at the computer using FPX.

At the moment, there's a promotion going on : https://www.ptptn.gov.my/promosi-menu/cabut...15-tahun-sspn-i

Even though I have already max out this year's contribution, I'm planning to dump in a bit more for each lucky draw period. Although I have not won anything  sad.gif , never hurt to try.  smile.gif

And yeah, I also just leave the money in the accounts.......
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2015 till now didn't get any lucky draw prize at all..

I still have my son ADAM50 not max out yet so any extra income will go into this account.
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post Sep 4 2019, 03:46 PM

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QUOTE(LostAndFound @ Sep 3 2019, 08:27 PM)
Anyone know how the interest is prorated? Per day or per month? Is it using minimum balance in period or average balance?
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I took the time to check back from 2015 to 2018.

I tried using both the method you mention but didn't get the same dividend return.


My findings:

Interest is calculated by - (Deposit Amount/Balance x Dividend % / 12 months) x number of months entitled to.

Transaction between 1st to 16th will entitle for that month of interest. i.e Deposit on 05 Nov RM20 x 4% / 12month * 2 months = RM0.13

Transaction from 17th to 31st won't entitled for that month of interest. i.e Deposit on 30 Oct RM20 x 4% / 12month * 2 months = RM0.13

Just double check again.
Deposit on 14/12/2015, 15/12/2015, 13/12/2016 & 15/12/2016 not entitled to any interest.
Deposit on 4th Dec get me 1 month of interest. Not sure the cut off date for Dec.

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post Sep 6 2019, 03:06 PM

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QUOTE(LostAndFound @ Sep 5 2019, 12:25 PM)
Interesting. Perhaps they're using weekly or bi-weekly then. Unlikely that any financial institution uses month as unit of calculation....
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No idea.

I tried the same calculation from 2015 to 2018 and managed to get the exact dividend they paid out.

QUOTE(MGM @ Sep 5 2019, 12:42 PM)
When is the best time to withdraw, so that u still entitle dividend for that month?
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Think if someone planning to do deposit then withdraw every year then

Deposit in end of Nov thus entitled to interest for month of Dec

Withdraw in Jan as early as possible for other investments.

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For withdrawal made in Jan

16-1-17 - No interest is paid for the amount withdrawn.

13-1-16 - No interest is paid for the amount withdrawn.

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My findings shows that money deposited in there for at least 1 calendar month, will get the 1 month interest but don't take this as an actual guideline for entitlement of dividends because the sample size I have is around 3 to 4 transaction a year x 4 years = +/- 16 transactions.

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post Sep 23 2019, 11:01 AM

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QUOTE(smaran44 @ Sep 23 2019, 08:47 AM)
May I know typically how long it takes for money that i deposit thru Boost appear on SSPN account? Secondly, is it each transaction that was done thru Boost would receive receipt by email? I'm asking this because i did couple of transaction on last Sat and it seems Boost miss to provide one of the transaction.
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3 to 5 working days probably since if transfer from bank to sspn also required few working days.


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post Dec 18 2019, 08:37 PM

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I have send in 2015 and 2017 to LHDN as requested by them this July but dont have any problem.


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post Dec 27 2019, 04:19 PM

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Went to BI, Ipoh Branch today. Took about 30 minutes to complete.

No form need to fill in to link SSPN as everything can be done through ATM machine.


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post Dec 29 2019, 07:07 PM

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In a 14% tax bracket or higher, maximise the 8k tax relief instead of putting in ASM3 is a better option for myself.. just not willing to pay the extra 1k plus tax..

The BI account I open recently looks wasted for now..

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post Jan 2 2020, 08:20 AM

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Already bank in this morning through FPX - 8k for 2020 tax relief.
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post Jan 2 2020, 09:14 AM

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QUOTE(monodevil @ Jan 2 2020, 08:22 AM)
why so early? u still can bank in during dec 2020 if the purpose solely for tax deduction  nod.gif
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To ensure I'll get the full 4% and I dont really invest in any stock/unit trust anymore except ASM3..
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post Jan 2 2020, 11:19 AM

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QUOTE(YH1234 @ Jan 2 2020, 09:41 AM)
is the 4% a sure thing? i thot some fd promotion can get close to 4%, n epf shd get higher return as well.

btw, does anyone know if i do a withdrawal in jan 2020, is there any impact on dividend up to 2019?
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8k can get what kind of FD promotion .. and EPF tax relief only at 4k, will probably put it in towards end of the year when I do my year end closing..

The dividend it's 4% a year from 2016 to 2018.. before that I'm not too sure..

No impact if you withdraw in Jan 2020
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post Jan 2 2020, 03:53 PM

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QUOTE(lyc1982 @ Jan 2 2020, 02:29 PM)
iinm...

4% is not a guaranteed
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8k x 21% = RM1,680 guaranteed tax relief and this is the main purpose contributing to SSPN-i.

Any % of dividend is a bonus.



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post Jan 7 2020, 07:21 PM

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QUOTE(mjchua @ Jan 7 2020, 07:16 PM)
just want to check with you guys, which part of the website can click and generate the statement for tax relief ? i remember i saw it previously, but now i can't find the button.

i just see:

PENYATA AKAUN SSPN
PENYATA KIRA-KIRA ( click "Lihat Terperinci" )
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Not so early .. most likely in Feb..
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post Jan 7 2020, 07:58 PM

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QUOTE(mjchua @ Jan 7 2020, 07:47 PM)
so statement for tax relief, we only can see for year 2019 (in year 2020). how about old one ? like 2018, 2017, etc... ?
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Once the option available .. you can check back previous year.. so wait for it..
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post Jan 8 2020, 09:14 AM

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QUOTE(monodevil @ Jan 8 2020, 09:02 AM)
I deposited around 12.30 am on 1 january but not updated. u sure yours already been updated?
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If you use fpx through sspn website its updated instantly..

I deposit 8k on 2nd Jan 2020 even theres no 2020 transaction history the system still show it in the 2019 history..

System updated so 2020 transaction has already been reflected..
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post Jan 20 2020, 12:01 PM

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QUOTE(Mervin1234 @ Jan 20 2020, 11:09 AM)
if i withdraw from my sspn today, will they still calculate interest for Jan 2020 ? or should i wait a later date ?
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How much you withdrawing? 8k?

1 month interest @ 4% is only rm26.66 per month.

Will you will lose sleep over just for rm26?
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post Jan 20 2020, 01:19 PM

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QUOTE(Mervin1234 @ Jan 20 2020, 12:11 PM)
im withdrawing 98K

thats makes up to abour Rm 326 and yes if can i want to earn this interest.

Im a very poor fella.
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I did a calculation before .. you can search in this thread..

No guarantee is accurate. Follow at your own risk.


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post Feb 6 2020, 04:28 PM

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Dividend is credited.

Upon checking only the balance b/f from 2018 & the dividend is entitled to 12 months of interest..

Deposit on 9 Jan - pro-rated to 11 months
Deposit on 8 Feb - pro-rated to 10 months
Deposit on 14 Mar - pro-rated to 9 months
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post Feb 7 2020, 05:36 PM

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QUOTE(lyc1982 @ Feb 7 2020, 04:24 PM)
so might as well don't link it at all, no ?

in the end still need to go thru the hassle of printing the sspn statement every single year to show proof to lhdn
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Bro, we are in the year 2020 why still keep hardcopies.

Since I started declaring my tax in 2014, EA form, CP58, for every tax relief that I claim and all payment receipts to LHDN I'll keep a softcopy.

The so called link to LHDN sometimes is flaw, better check thoroughly on your own. Some of my client payment for cp500 or pcb is not even updated correctly in their form b/be.



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