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uzairi
post Apr 27 2006, 12:08 AM

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QUOTE(MetalZone @ Apr 26 2006, 11:41 PM)
Ouch... thats tough news. Found a new mobo?
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Found. Hoping to get it soon. thumbup.gif
uzairi
post Apr 27 2006, 12:17 AM

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Hopefully. But that thing is the square ones. Not the rounded ones(capasitor). I might change the transistor later.
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post Apr 27 2006, 11:18 AM

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QUOTE(almostthere @ Apr 27 2006, 01:07 AM)
No as it only allows at best a more constant average temp, not lowering of temps. I've tested with 2 delta triblades and that's how I came to taht conclusion. Wanna minimise noise? Go for a pull setup. Sorts it out
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Tested this setup with my wc kit and pull setup gives me the same temp like push configuration with lower noise and lesser dust. You guys can try this at home. thumbup.gif Maybe i'll post my temperatures after i get my hands on my new mobo this weekend. rclxm9.gif
uzairi
post Apr 30 2006, 04:00 AM

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Other than TT radiators would be fine. Ngbh's set is also considerable since it's price/performance ratio.

Guys bad news again, MCP650 giving me headache. It suddenly stopped working when i fired it up for the first time with my new wc kit. I restarted the pc few times and for the 4th time if im not mistaken suddenly my temp increases rapidly. I stopped for a while and checking the loop and the setup and realise the pump stopped working already. Huhuh.. Now using Nirox P2800 back for a while. BTW T-Bred B 2.2ghz 42c load with only 1 Nidec fan at the BIX2.
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post Apr 30 2006, 02:48 PM

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QUOTE(seveneleven @ Apr 30 2006, 04:04 AM)
Uzairi, how old is the MCP650?
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I dont quite know the exact age because i bought it 2nd hand. Now resting it and maybe i'll try again later. sweat.gif
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post Apr 30 2006, 03:15 PM

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Use this setup if u have a powerfull pumps. You got nothing to lose by doing this plus its gonna gives some extra oomphs.

pump----> radiator----> waterblock----> reservoir----> pump

Use this setup if u have a moderate pumps. This is because the restriction will kill the pumps preassure and thus reduce the effieciency.

pump---->waterblock-----> radiator----->reservoir-----> pump
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plus one more thing, i currently using syscooling wc kit, after i take out the tubings, the host clips cant be reused, so can i use zip ties on the waterblock pump and radiator, plus tt coolant is non-conductivity????

Zip ties can be used,no problem at all. Be sure to tighten it so that no leaking will occur. Its best used for the tubings. Coolant, 1 cup will do since it gives the anti corossion and some uv effects only. Too much and it will dillute the water giving extra restriction.

This post has been edited by uzairi: Apr 30 2006, 03:18 PM
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post Apr 30 2006, 07:01 PM

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QUOTE(boboy @ Apr 30 2006, 05:42 PM)
i plan to buy TT uv tubing & uv coolant from moderno
changing all tubing to uv sensitive tongue.gif
the stock liquid is blur and have settlement especially near the radiator

i hav modified the wc system, the radiator put outside the rear of 12cm fan hole centurion 5, no clip nor zip tie apply but no leakage until now cool.gif
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Now its in good condition but who knows later what might happened ? Using zip tie is just a safety measurement taken to prevent leakage.


lichyetan : Maybe u can try both setup and see which is the best ?
uzairi
post May 1 2006, 02:37 PM

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I think it comes with the meter. IIRC moderno selling it at the Bulk Sales. Go and have a look there.
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post May 1 2006, 10:33 PM

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I think the meter is just for a bling2x stuff, it can actually slow the flow rate of the liquid. Better not to use it unless ure into bling2x.
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post May 2 2006, 04:37 PM

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Nice mod. Thinking of doing it with a better fan but no tools to drill and stuff. Maybe i'll do it too when im on holiday.
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post May 11 2006, 06:30 PM

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QUOTE(almostthere @ May 6 2006, 06:42 PM)
I'm not so keen on coolants. This is because besides an anti-corrosion inhibitor (which is unnecessary unless your running a non all-copper loop), it's just not worth it. The last time I used coolants (STP brand) my tygons got murky, algae built up and temps got very bad indeed
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Im not into coolant anymore as i get the same result as almostthere. Now just using 100% Petronas battery water. Why Petronas ? I think its better than normal Battery Water. flex.gif

QUOTE(MetalZone @ May 7 2006, 05:39 PM)
Good to hear that. Looks like I really have to coat even more epoxy until the outside. The test prototype didnt use that much epoxy either and it sealed well with no visible trace of epoxy on the outside. Can't trust that anymore LOL.
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I seal with quite a lot epoxy to make sure disaster wont happens again in the future.

QUOTE(moderno @ May 10 2006, 04:03 PM)
bro...got any improvement by installing the fan on the nirox there? pumpz cool a bit eh?
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Mine i just left the back of the pump naked and it does improve my temp. Around 1c-2c.

QUOTE(Shah81 @ May 11 2006, 05:42 PM)
yeah the pump vibrates alot. i use 2 layers of sponge (the one that came with your mobo) to cushion the pump. before, the whole casing vibrates...now no more "goncang".
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This mainly because ur pump is still new. Mine doesnt vibrate that much, and i just use the stok rubber pads to counter the vibration. 2 years and still okay. Hopefully. sweat.gif
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post May 12 2006, 01:22 AM

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QUOTE(zahri @ May 11 2006, 10:23 PM)
i dunt see this nirox pump of mine goncang that bad, i am still using the black suction cups that came with the pump... but its not in the casing yet, still outside of the case.

Battery Water contains Manganese, usually around 0.003ml i think...

does this manganese affect (corrode) the components such as pump, radiator, waterblock ( metal parts ) ?

Anyone knows ?
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QUOTE(lichyetan @ May 12 2006, 12:45 AM)
yeah, i put few layers of news paper inside. goncang reduced.... LOL  biggrin.gif  biggrin.gif
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Goncang = shake, Gegar = vibrate. Different lah. laugh.gif BTW i think that mangan is not that much and that amount wont do anything much to the copper. unsure.gif
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post May 12 2006, 10:04 PM

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QUOTE(speedrider @ May 12 2006, 01:02 PM)
TQ abang zahri....
seperti yang dijangka... btol la kalau macam tu.. berlambak2 ada kat rumah.. memang kena campur rupanya... smile.gif

Thinking to put silicone at the 1st place, but silicone will tear around 2-3 month after use it.

Thanks again zahri.
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Silicon not that good compared to epoxy. Use epoxy better and can last longer. I just resealed my Nirox P2800 since there's some leakage at the propeler shaft. sweat.gif
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post May 12 2006, 10:58 PM

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My load temps for a 2.3ghz@1.65v Athlon XP is 42c with an ambient temp of 24c and 44c load if the ambient is 26c. I think its a bit on the high side, what do u guys think ? BTW im using Storm G4 + BIX II + Nirox P2800.
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post May 13 2006, 01:30 AM

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Hehe, got larger ID kah ? It seems that my Nirox P2800 is suffering with Storm G4 with BIX II combination. 42c load and 36 idle, 24c ambient. Need to find some funds to get a new pumps. Sighs..
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post May 13 2006, 03:18 AM

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QUOTE(MetalZone @ May 13 2006, 02:56 AM)
eh, what happened to your Laing D4?
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Laing D4 kaput edi. rclxub.gif Buy it then spoiled, no money to replace laugh.gif
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post May 13 2006, 02:09 PM

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After long burning the proc, the voltage needed drop to 1.65V from 1.7V. Now trying to get it run at 1.625v later. BTW cant wait for ur wc kit result with new oc speeds.
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post May 13 2006, 04:19 PM

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39c also hot ? sweat.gif I think u can get those stuff at Metalzone's Bulk. But it would take some time tho, say after mmu holiday ?
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post May 13 2006, 08:23 PM

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QUOTE(MetalZone @ May 13 2006, 05:37 PM)
owww... that was a nice pump though...
actually, on the question of temperatures, you cant trust mobo temps at all. so basically what we read from our mobo temps are just a very rough idea. they could be off typically by a massive 5 to 10 C. even pc temp sensors like the coolermaster aerogate II only have an accuracy of +-3 C. you'd need some high end fluke/omega/digitec sensors to be able to take accurate temp readings. will try to get some more accurate digital themometers in the near future to do some better testing/reviews.
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After this, i would get Eheim pumps rather than swiftech's. whistling.gif
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post May 15 2006, 01:07 AM

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Eheim 1250 would be my next choice. Now reallocation my funds to get it. Anybody know Eheim's pump distributor ?

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