Discussion about watercooling and the results, Version 2
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 Nov 10 2007, 01:11 AM
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Should be no problem. Sometime I on my rig for days (during BT  ), just make sure you set those thermal management in your mobo bios; shut down the comp when the cpu temp reach certain dangerous level. Just in case, ur pump reach the end of its life cycle. |
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Dec 4 2007, 10:48 PM
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QUOTE(amd_hardcore @ Dec 4 2007, 07:48 PM) ihihih... sori , suddenly become emo after being mad by my mom.... The nearest place that you can get those good block is either from MetalZone or Uglyvamp from Singapore.LOL....  BTW Bro almostthere , where we can find cpu blocks brand except swiftech brand in kl???? like DD , Aqua , Nexxos???? in low yatt , i search those wc blocks.... but results turn to zero....  |
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Dec 21 2007, 08:49 AM
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To ppl that using nozzle for their DTek Fuzion, make sure you have a good/strong pump to pair with it and choose the most suitable size else u will get a worse result compare before using those nozzle. This is because those nozzle is a flow killer. So beware.. But anyway anyhow, I am an one happy user of those nozzle. Using those Quad core nozzle now. Can see some difference on the temp.
Added on December 21, 2007, 9:17 am QUOTE(AoiNatsume @ Dec 19 2007, 07:05 PM) yup... that was my whole point of water cooling... undoubtedly high end air cooling are good... but their performance also comes with noise. I had to disagree on this. High end WC that used good / low cfm fan radiator dont really make that much of noise. You can even run passive (all fan off on radiator or some air flow from case fan) during non full load usage during surfing net and so on. QUOTE(amd_hardcore @ Dec 20 2007, 11:51 PM) owh im think about something ler... if u want to change pump, only get DB1 if u want a real silent pump. Nevertheless it is a cheap and reasonable strong pump.when i look at my gigabyte pump look a like D-TEK DB-1.... LOL btw doom , dats a cool blocks... can tell me wats de fuction of nozel???? QUOTE(clawhammer @ Dec 21 2007, 03:05 AM) In conclusion, are there big differences between Apogee and Fuzion? but if some case, bowed GT will beat fuzion. This post has been edited by irangan: Dec 21 2007, 09:17 AM |
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Dec 21 2007, 11:48 AM
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QUOTE(IcEMoCHa @ Dec 21 2007, 10:10 AM) Will that accelerator nozzle cause bubbles?... no its wont... If your setup got bubble, this means that u need to bleed your system. Normally u just need to open ur Micro Res cap and tilt ur system abit. Within few hours, the bubble will be eliminated |
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Dec 25 2007, 09:46 PM
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I think he means that his pump is dead and GPU block is leaking.
Shut down everything, unplug all power plug.... Take out all hardware and use hair dryer to dry it. Do it now.. This post has been edited by irangan: Dec 25 2007, 09:47 PM |
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Dec 27 2007, 12:46 PM
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QUOTE(amd_hardcore @ Dec 27 2007, 03:28 AM) bro GTX perform better than GT r??? But before you jump to GTX Wagon, please bear in mind that GTX block have some Corrosion issue now due to its aluminium top. Though its havent be proven, but I do think it is better to stay away from GTX at least for now unless u have the extra cash for its copper tops |
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Dec 27 2007, 09:19 PM
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QUOTE(Doom @ Dec 27 2007, 04:48 PM) hmm then fuzion better or GTX better ??? Personally I do think Fuzion with nozzle is the best block at the moment and I am sure alot of ppl will agree with me . EK Supreme still havent prove itself, need more testing from fellow forummer. |
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Dec 29 2007, 08:55 PM
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QUOTE(lichyetan @ Dec 29 2007, 08:33 PM) hey guys, currently planning to built a 2nd loop just to cool down my ASUS Blitz SE Mobo using the original Blitz SE waterblock which is using 3/8OD barbs, my current loop are Swiftech Micro Reservoir, Laing D4 pump, 1st mcr220-qp rad, 2nd mcr220-qp, mcw-60 and apogee gt, then back to reservoir, all using 1/2ID tubings. I thought the board come with adapter that can convert the block holes from 3/8 to 1/2. If u dont plan to hardcore OC, watercooling NB is not needed. But if u really want to do it, u might consider to change ur pump to D5. This is because with ur current setup, I worry ur flowrate will go down the drain as the block is proven to be restrictive.I got 3 plan, need advice from u guys, 1st use back current loop and downgrade tubings to 3/8. 2nd is buy a cheap thermaltake set to cool down just the mobo. 3rd option is buy a Dtek DB1 pump, use my spare reservoir, and add on a single fan radiator using 3/8 tubings, most expensive option... 1st option are cheaper, but make the loop performance drop as i heard the blitz's waterblock are quite restrictive. any opinion which is the best? anyone got left over single fan radiator for sale? any brand also can, Thermaltake also acceptable, swiftech or cooltrek prefered... |
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Dec 30 2007, 07:37 PM
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QUOTE(limhongwoon @ Dec 29 2007, 08:57 PM) hi r u sell water cooling???? No... Look for Mr. MetalZoneQUOTE(lichyetan @ Dec 29 2007, 10:08 PM) Laing D4 should be having the same spec as D4 rite? MCP650 vs 655... I dont know the exact difference between both of the pump. But 650 is slightly weaker than 655. That for sure.i think i might change to 3/8 tubings as i dont think the 1/2 tubings can bend at the cpu and NB area... If u want to bend, you dont have to change to 3/8... U should consider 7/16 tubing.. Can bend better and you dont have to use clamp on 1/2 bard |
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Dec 31 2007, 12:56 AM
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QUOTE(limhongwoon @ Dec 30 2007, 07:39 PM) SWIFTECH WATER BLOCK OR THERMALTAKE WATER BLOCK WHICH BETTER?? Swiftech of course.If u just spend some time to google or just browse through the forum, you will know. It is a very stupid question. Like they said, it is not a fair comparision also. P.S. Please dont type with ALL CAPS. Hard to read. |
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Dec 31 2007, 01:42 PM
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QUOTE(intothefantasy @ Dec 31 2007, 01:59 AM) i am planing to build this setup to cool a q6600 Good choice but dont forget to get those Fuzion Nozzle also. Will help ur performance ALOT. D-Tek Fuzion CPU Block MCP655B Water Pump MCRES-Micro Reservoir other than that i need ppl recomand me a nice rad... a nice triple rad enuf...and other than tat all those tubes i duno which to take...see also confuese so many size...1st timer going for wc..pls help If u plan to cool ur cpu only, just get those dual radiator is good enough. As the performance gain by using triple radiator on cpu is minimal compare to dual. As for tubing, like stated by Doom... Just go for those 1/2 size tubing as 3/8 is too small and kind of hard to find IMO. You need to determine which type of coolant to use also. e.g. 1. Distalled Water Only. 2. Distilled Water with Biocide mixture. 3. Those famous PC Ice Coolant. Good luck ~! Welcome to WC group. Added on December 31, 2007, 1:45 pm QUOTE(king99 @ Dec 31 2007, 10:57 AM) Now Pokai ....wait until CYN only can affort high end WC........ if u cant afford now, save up the money first and at least prepare around RM600-RM700 for a decent setup.Dont waste ur money on those cheap/lousy watercooling as you will regret and it is freaking hard to resell those stuff. This post has been edited by irangan: Dec 31 2007, 01:45 PM |
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Dec 31 2007, 02:57 PM
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QUOTE(intothefantasy @ Dec 31 2007, 02:25 PM) PA120.2 dual rad good? for cooling cpu triple rad wont gain much ar? wat is Fuzion Nozzle? where can i get d nozzle? i gogle it seems like a accelerator kit... Wow Thermochill PA120.2 ar.... of course it is good. Haha... Actually its depends on your case's space, if you have the space.. Just go for PA120.3. Future proof.. Hehe.. Those nozzle can be obtained by MetalZone. It is used to focus the flow to maximize the cooling effect. QUOTE(amd_hardcore @ Dec 31 2007, 02:34 PM) ya , it will concentrate the flowing off water towards cpu... Yeah.. Exactly. Thanks.. How is ur rig already? sudah ok?>soorry for my bad english... QUOTE(intothefantasy @ Dec 31 2007, 02:50 PM) hmm if i take dual rad for cooling cpu only...if future i wanna cool nb also does the dual rad enuf for cooling both? or would it be nice if i get the triple rad now? A dual is good enough for CPU and NB for sure. Like I said, u have the space and cash, go for PA120.3.. In ur case, I think better go for PA120.3 cuz I can sense u going to water cool ur graphic cards also SOON. haha.. |
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Dec 31 2007, 03:09 PM
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QUOTE(intothefantasy @ Dec 31 2007, 03:06 PM) where can i get nozzle? btw metalzone has it? i wanna order wc kits from him tho...but no replies from him yet yes he have it... Check ur pm... I pm u his phone number. |
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Dec 31 2007, 03:19 PM
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QUOTE(rozz_1291 @ Dec 31 2007, 03:16 PM) wat is dat accelerator nozzle 4r exactly??? I saw in MetalZone thread. But i dunno wat izzit??? Here is more info about that nozzle.http://www.dtekcustoms.com/index.asp?PageA...PROD&ProdID=203 read through it and u will get the rough ideas. |
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Dec 31 2007, 03:35 PM
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QUOTE(amd_hardcore @ Dec 31 2007, 03:21 PM) blomm.. wooo... Good lo in some sense.. .Can give u a good reason to upgrade. haha.. P45 going to release soon still need refunding money to get Good board... last time i nearly get conned.... ya... must careful during trading.. damm alot of con man around |
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Jan 1 2008, 01:54 AM
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QUOTE(intothefantasy @ Dec 31 2007, 08:32 PM) i still not sure whether wan to get a pa120.3 or just other cheap brand triple rad..this my 1st time..i scare i done something stupid and feel wasted buy a expansive rad and duno how to fully use it...other then pa wat are the rads with nice performance? If want to test only, probably just get those swiftech or cooltek. A cheap and good brand.. Not to mention, it is easier to re sell also. haha.. this rad ok ar? Alphacool NexXxos Xtreme III also i can get order from bombman for the pa120.3 but seems like is going to reach here at malaysia at end of january....kinda long to wait  Alphacool is quite ok.. Can buy.. Errr... Better dont buy through third party. Else for sure got delayed till dont know how many months. Buy direct is the best. Pay abit more but stuff can reach ur doorstep in less a week. Like me QUOTE(amd_hardcore @ Dec 31 2007, 11:14 PM) wta , the D-TEK dB-1 pump good or not??? This is a good / silent pump. Performance is ok ok only.. But very cheap. want to change new pump lerrr... hehehe Why not save abit more for 655? U wont regret. |
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Jan 1 2008, 10:32 AM
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QUOTE(amd_hardcore @ Jan 1 2008, 02:23 AM) just do a little bit research.... Personally I didnt compare both of that pump before. Probably the spec is quite similiar but I just worry the build quality is not the same. Later down the road in few months, those gigabyte pump will just 'die'. heheactually , Gigabyte Galaxy pump is almost same with Dtek DB-1 pump. as u can see the physical design is same , only the barb thing difference. the flow rate for DB-1 is 500 L/hr and Gigabyte Galaxy pump is 400 L/hr. both pump also use ceramic bearing and 12volt powered. power consume also same 6 watt. so i think , i will just wait until i collect enough money to change my pump. luckily i do a little bit research , if not , i will just buy another pump same as Gigabyte pump. QUOTE(intothefantasy @ Jan 1 2008, 02:35 AM) bro how to buy direct? QUOTE(lichyetan @ Jan 1 2008, 02:48 AM) haha, ya interested on it to, everytime i get my stuffs from bulk gotto wait long time... Errr.... Just buy from those US website. Like PPCS, Sidewinders, PTS and so on. As long you have credit card, everything can be settle as they accept visa / master or paypal. You can order from thermochill direct too.. But shipping direct from UK is freaking expensive. |
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Jan 5 2008, 02:48 AM
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QUOTE(LittleLinnet @ Jan 4 2008, 03:49 AM) i know can order direct through those sites, but then the shipping costs usually cost a bomb too lolz, like 50USD right? USPS EMS.. Yeah.. Its can get quite expensive. That's why, u need to order in bulk. So that can save more on the shipping. what shipping method you used? Though it is expensive, but it is quite worth cuz some of the stuff is impossible to get in our region  QUOTE(uzairi @ Jan 4 2008, 07:40 PM) D4 and D5 are almost identical except that D5 produces less heat. Hmmmm.... Thanks for the heads up.. I will do more research. As I also 'heard' from friend saying that D4 is weaker than D5.Not sure about the D4 being the weaker sibling but im using it and it works like charm so far. *touchwood* QUOTE(clawhammer @ Jan 4 2008, 09:24 PM) I'm just curious if anyone here tried out those basic water cooling kits from Thermaltake and Cooler Master. I wonder how do they perform Personally, I never use those WC before. But from what I read and observe, those WC set performance is almost on par with those high end air cooling. So it is not worth the effort and hassle if u plan to WC with those WC set. Not to mention, those WC set's pump have high failure and return rate. To me, if want to go for WC only go for the best else rather stick with high end air cooling. Less hassle and peace at mind |
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Jan 5 2008, 12:30 PM
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New Dtek Fuzion Mounting
With Back Plate.  Better pressure and prevent ur mobo from bow.. Dont know should get or not as I already using a back plate. |
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Jan 5 2008, 08:10 PM
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QUOTE(clawhammer @ Jan 5 2008, 05:22 PM) Thanks irangan. The DTEK block looks very nice Not really Swiftech... All those famous pump is OEM from Laing It seems that people normally get Swiftech pumps (12V DC) compared to Eheim or other AC pumps already. |
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