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post Mar 22 2011, 10:13 AM

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i truly agree with u Matrix. desire HD specs is not too different compared to Incredible S but I can say nexus S is better in almost everything.

but people buy phone based on personal preferences, so be it.
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post Mar 22 2011, 10:22 AM

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QUOTE(Matrix @ Mar 22 2011, 10:01 AM)
This analysis is all wrong.

1) The HTC Internal storage sucks...probably left 400MB to 500MB for internal user data. It is an Android pitfall...The Nexus S probably have over 1GB for internal app/storage like the Galaxy S...external card dun mean shit if your internal app space is full. Iphone probably have no such issues.

2) 8MP vs 5MP...no difference. Only an idiot will buy the MP story in this age. Small crapp image sensor with high Megapixel does nothing but creates more noise. HTC is known for crappy cameras. Samsung generally have superior phone cameras.

3) Hummingbird with 540 pawns the Qualcomm with Adreno 205.

The only real advantage i can think of is the 720p video recording, but if it's crappy like the HTC Desire 720p recording, then it's useless.

The only real advantage ever with HTC phones is the Sense UI....they simply cannot compete on specs with other phones.
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1) Never had one Android before so don't really know the story.
2) Agree, smartphone/handphone camera always sucks, it may be acceptable but don't take it and use as your main camera.
3) Agree as well, if you read articles and reviews about it, definitely don't need explanation.
4) It is rated in 21fps, so regardless of the resolution, the video recording is still crappy, any video recording that is rated under 29.97fps which is the DVD rating, it sucks.
5) Nothing much need to say about it, that's the reason I wanted so long to have a HTC android phone.
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post Mar 22 2011, 10:50 AM

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QUOTE(Json188 @ Mar 22 2011, 10:22 AM)
1) Never had one Android before so don't really know the story.
2) Agree, smartphone/handphone camera always sucks, it may be acceptable but don't take it and use as your main camera.
3) Agree as well, if you read articles and reviews about it, definitely don't need explanation.
4) It is rated in 21fps, so regardless of the resolution, the video recording is still crappy, any video recording that is rated under 29.97fps which is the DVD rating, it sucks.
5) Nothing much need to say about it, that's the reason I wanted so long to have a HTC android phone.
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1) When u use one, then u'll know...it's one of the Android's worst problem...you simply can't install anything once internal storage is full with apps and data cache.
2) yes, but HTC is super suck. I've used Samsung Omnia 2, SAmsung Wave 2 and HTC Desire. Samsung photos simply pawns all HTC including DHD. HTC camera tends to give bad color reproduction...red turns to purple...just plain bad.
3) Actually, 24fps video is pretty ok. Not sure about the IS, but my desire is hopeless in 720p....it lags in recording....useless. Compared to the butter smooth 30fps Wave 2....no fight at all.

But if you talk about overall usage experience, HTC Sense is still the best.

And between SGS and Nexus S, i'll take SGS anyday....what's the hoohaa with plain vanilla Android 2.3?? It won't solve the problem (1) either coz it's all too legacy in the apps.


This post has been edited by Matrix: Mar 22 2011, 10:53 AM
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post Mar 22 2011, 10:53 AM

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QUOTE(xDjWanNabex @ Mar 22 2011, 09:56 AM)
Sigh. Oh well, what can i do now sad.gif
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all the sets that i've sold are with 8GB pre inserted eventhough it's already unsealed by supplier.
DJFoo000
post Mar 22 2011, 10:53 AM

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hrmm i dunno about other phones, but my Desire Z retains its 1.1GB internal storage pretty well, which translates to 1.1GB of user data for me. The same will probably apply to the Incredible S as well. Users correct me please.

And the amount of apps to fill that 1.1GB space is quite a lot. The game data folder will most probably be stored on the SD card.

Not saying that 1.1GB is the point to stop increasing internal storage, but I think it shouldn't be a deterrent to purchasers.
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post Mar 22 2011, 10:57 AM

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QUOTE(DJFoo000 @ Mar 22 2011, 10:53 AM)
hrmm i dunno about other phones, but my Desire Z retains its 1.1GB internal storage pretty well, which translates to 1.1GB of user data for me. The same will probably apply to the Incredible S as well. Users correct me please.

And the amount of apps to fill that 1.1GB space is quite a lot. The game data folder will most probably be stored on the SD card.

Not saying that 1.1GB is the point to stop increasing internal storage, but I think it shouldn't be a deterrent to purchasers.
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If you have 1GB is quiet ok, HTC Desire has only 120MB....some people reported DHD only has 400MB to 500MB...i doubt the DesireZ have full access to the 1.1GB...space still need to be allocate for OS and phonebook internal storage.
You should install the 'DiskUsage' app and see.

This post has been edited by Matrix: Mar 22 2011, 10:58 AM
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post Mar 22 2011, 11:00 AM

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Hi, wanna ask for owner of this phone, can this phone make video call using telco(celcom,maxis)? not using tango or ym.
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post Mar 22 2011, 11:00 AM

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QUOTE(Matrix @ Mar 22 2011, 10:50 AM)
1) When u use one, then u'll know...it's one of the Android's worst problem...you simply can't install anything once internal storage is full with apps and data cache.
2) yes, but HTC is super suck. I've used Samsung Omnia 2, SAmsung Wave 2 and HTC Desire. Samsung photos simply pawns all HTC including DHD. HTC camera tends to give bad color reproduction...red turns to purple...just plain bad.
3) Actually, 24fps video is pretty ok. Not sure about the IS, but my desire is hopeless in 720p....it lags in recording....useless. Compared to the butter smooth 30fps Wave 2....no fight at all.

But if you talk about overall usage experience, HTC Sense is still the best.
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1) What I don't know is that how big is an app could be? Because in my Nokia 5800 case, there's only less than 100MB internal phone storage needed to store messages, contacts, apps and files. But Symbian apps usually used around average of 500KB to 1MB. So still consider okay and can store above 40 apps if you store files in Micro SD, so no big problem installing apps (Of course you still can install apps in Micro SD as well), so if you say IS have around 400MB to 500MB left, if apps only used around average 10MB to 20MB, I think that is still consider fine.

2) If you are not into photography and video recording, then nothing much need to say, if you are, then you know the difference.

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post Mar 22 2011, 11:09 AM

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Nope, 1.1GB all available to me. As of currently, I have about 0.89GB left on my internal storage (not that I install tons of apps). Checked under settings -> sd card and phone storage.

Owh, maybe the reduce in available storage in stock phones is due to HTC Sense. Which makes sense, literally. You need space to store all those eye candies that HTC Sense brings.


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QUOTE(Matrix @ Mar 22 2011, 10:57 AM)
If you have 1GB is quiet ok, HTC Desire has only 120MB....some people reported DHD only has 400MB to 500MB...i doubt the DesireZ have full access to the 1.1GB...space still need to be allocate for OS and phonebook internal storage.
You should install the 'DiskUsage' app and see.
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Dude, newbies here, wanna ask ask abt the memory storage stuff. can u differenciate out which can b store on sd card and which have to store in internal memory? *from the pocketphone review, incredible S oni have abt 600MB nia* but not sure la~ @@ not a user yet~
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QUOTE(Json188 @ Mar 22 2011, 11:00 AM)
1) What I don't know is that how big is an app could be? Because in my Nokia 5800 case, there's only less than 100MB internal phone storage needed to store messages, contacts, apps and files. But Symbian apps usually used around average of 500KB to 1MB. So still consider okay and can store above 40 apps if you store files in Micro SD, so no big problem installing apps (Of course you still can install apps in Micro SD as well), so if you say IS have around 400MB to 500MB left, if apps only used around average 10MB to 20MB, I think that is still consider fine.

2) If you are not into photography and video recording, then nothing much need to say, if you are, then you know the difference.
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Nokia 5800 was my last phone b4 changed to Android...LOL. Symbian cannot compared.....Yes, with 400MB, the problem is not as persistent like the HTC Desire, but some people reported that SGS has 1.6GB usable. It's not only apps that is store in the internal storage i think. Also the data of the app, for example, all your widgets...news, FACEBOOK, twitter and e-mails, all these will use up space in your internal storage as time goes by when news/mails/updates are pumped in. And there'll be a lot more fantastic apps on the Android compared to the Symbian and you'll want them all...and they're FREEE.....LOL.

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post Mar 22 2011, 11:16 AM

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On a side note, there seems to be a different lock implemented in Incredible S. The DHD and DZ were rooted with the same method, but the Thunderbolt is rooted while the Incredible S isn't coz of different implementation of eMMC lock. PSNeuter appears to give temp root but the team at XDA can't make it stick upon reboot. Not to mention the devs are slow at picking this one up (unlike the G2/GZ which had cyanogen jumped onto it the moment it was announced).
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QUOTE(Kadajxii @ Mar 22 2011, 11:10 AM)
Dude, newbies here, wanna ask ask abt the memory storage stuff. can u differenciate out which can b store on sd card and which have to store in internal memory? *from the pocketphone review, incredible S oni have abt 600MB nia* but not sure la~ @@ not a user yet~
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A lot of apps can only be installed INTERNALLY in the internal storage. There's no way to move them (unless you do some hacks which can fool the SD card as internal storage....too much trouble and risk if you just want to use your phone). I can see in my HTC Desire...a lot of small small apps all cannot move...only maybe newer apps and none critical apps can move to external storage.

But with 600MB, the problem should be less prevalent then on my miserable HTC Desire.
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QUOTE(Matrix @ Mar 22 2011, 11:19 AM)
A lot of apps can only be installed INTERNALLY in the internal storage. There's no way to move them (unless you do some hacks which can fool the SD card as internal storage....too much trouble and risk if you just want to use your phone). I can see in my HTC Desire...a lot of small small apps all cannot move...only maybe newer apps and none critical apps can move to external storage.

But with 600MB, the problem should be less prevalent then on my miserable HTC Desire.
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ouh~ thx thx~ den what is the avg size of those small small appz and critical appz?? 600mb is so so small le hmm.gif y htc so stingy geh doh.gif so there is still some appz able to move to ext mem la? @@" hope those newer 1 able to storage in ext~

read ur previous post, seems like u have alot of unhappy exp w htc, come share share @@" bcz i m thinking wanna get IS @@"
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DHD can read flash, can IS read flash?

i saw the review for both units. IS is almost same as DHD but just slight difference.
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QUOTE(sebastianchan @ Mar 22 2011, 11:38 AM)
DHD can read flash, can IS read flash?

i saw the review for both units. IS is almost same as DHD but just slight difference.
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Yes, internal specifications is 99% the same, IS come with smaller screen but better screen brightness, more clear and crisper.

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QUOTE(Kadajxii @ Mar 22 2011, 11:30 AM)
ouh~ thx thx~ den what is the avg size of those small small appz and critical appz?? 600mb is so so small le  hmm.gif  y htc so stingy geh  doh.gif  so there is still some appz able to move to ext mem la? @@" hope those newer 1 able to storage in ext~

read ur previous post, seems like u have alot of unhappy exp w htc, come share share @@" bcz i m thinking wanna get IS @@"
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Generally i am happy with the HTC Desire except this internal storage problem and the crappy camera problem. Camera not so much issue...plan to buy a dedicated Pro-sumer camera anyway...but the internal storage cannot solve. sad.gif

But i suppose with 600MB, this should be not a main issue since it's like 5 times the usable storage of the HTC Desire.
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what's with the argument about the internal storage? i currently have around 300 apps installed in my DHD, and still got remaining 700mb of internal storage. most of the newer apps can be transferred to the SD card, i know most of them still have some critical files inside internal storage but those only uses a very small amount of space, mostly 2 to 3 mb max, so i don't see the relevance of large internal storage.

The way things are going, i can still install roughly 300 more apps into my phone before internal space runs out!

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guys this incredible s can't do 3g video calling, right. when make a call, there is no option to make a video call even though there is a front camera. i know for a fact that the samsung galaxy s can make 3g video calls.
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QUOTE(sbd @ Mar 22 2011, 12:04 PM)
guys this incredible s can't do 3g video calling, right. when make a call, there is no option to make a video call even though there is a front camera. i know for a fact that the samsung galaxy s can make 3g video calls.
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i think 2.2 android still do not have 3G call.

try this app fring... they say this app add 3G support to android but i not sure the guy/girl u call need to have this app as well or not..

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