^impressions are good enough. Like what you think of different aspects of the phone.

@xDjWanNabex lol get used to the charger. Modern smartphones all like that now. Surprised to know you're impressed by the camera. HTC improved their camera?

This post has been edited by DJFoo000: Mar 18 2011, 07:47 PM

the incredible =/= incredible S.

They need consumers to keep buying phones. Cannot have a perfect phone straight away.

hrmm i dunno about other phones, but my Desire Z retains its 1.1GB internal storage pretty well, which translates to 1.1GB of user data for me. The same will probably apply to the Incredible S as well. Users correct me please.

And the amount of apps to fill that 1.1GB space is quite a lot. The game data folder will most probably be stored on the SD card.

Not saying that 1.1GB is the point to stop increasing internal storage, but I think it shouldn't be a deterrent to purchasers.

Nope, 1.1GB all available to me. As of currently, I have about 0.89GB left on my internal storage (not that I install tons of apps). Checked under settings -> sd card and phone storage.

Owh, maybe the reduce in available storage in stock phones is due to HTC Sense. Which makes sense, literally. You need space to store all those eye candies that HTC Sense brings.


This post has been edited by DJFoo000: Mar 22 2011, 11:16 AM

On a side note, there seems to be a different lock implemented in Incredible S. The DHD and DZ were rooted with the same method, but the Thunderbolt is rooted while the Incredible S isn't coz of different implementation of eMMC lock. PSNeuter appears to give temp root but the team at XDA can't make it stick upon reboot. Not to mention the devs are slow at picking this one up (unlike the G2/GZ which had cyanogen jumped onto it the moment it was announced).

^ ^It is the OS. Android does not currently natively support video calls despite supporting 3G internet and voice calls. Pretty ironic considering a popint in the Android vs iOS squabble is Facetime which only works in WiFi.

I guess in the world where everyone has a data and voice plan, it's not hard to request the other party to install some app to enable video call thru data connection. But then it'll block out all non-androids. lol.

This post has been edited by DJFoo000: Mar 22 2011, 12:34 PM

citations please.

This post has been edited by DJFoo000: Mar 22 2011, 10:12 PM

thunderbolt has been rooted for some time already. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=996616

The Vivo (aka HTC Incredible S, remember the Vivo coz it'll be used a lot more often among the devs) implements a different set of security measures. I suspect the Desire S will have the same locks. But since XDA is quite still a HTC-centric community, the hope that it gets hacked is high(er).

Incredible S claimed to be rooted by a chinese dev.

http://bbs.goapk.com/thread-1534133-1-1.html

Though skeptics on XDA think it's either a hardware root that requires specialist tools, or doctored photos. Hopes are high though.

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread...=980497&page=13

AFAIK s-off to flash stuff is only needed starting DHD and DZ, of which both have achieved s-off already.

The IS is different in the sense that it has a signed bootloader and recovery image, which involves more work to crack.

When you're interested in things with regards to the bootloader, you won't really be interested in running a shipped ROM, right? With that the chances of re-locking your bootloader via an OTA is nil. Not to mention the number of custom Sense Roms out there, if you're interested in that kind of thing.

To bring things back to the topic, as confirmed, root s-off has been achieved via a hardware kit (via something called an XTC Clip). A chinese forummer YuHong uploaded his pre-rooted IS ROM to flash. A shop in China is selling pre-rooted Incredible S-es.

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1012787

evidence: http://www.flickr.com/photos/61046912@N04/5559463391/

There're also rumors that some IS'es were shipped with s-off from factory.

This post has been edited by DJFoo000: Mar 31 2011, 09:33 AM

Maybe it's 'first 300 in every centre'.

scratch that. lol here's the list:


http://www.soyacincau.com/2011/04/01/digi-...-promo-details/

lol

This post has been edited by DJFoo000: Apr 1 2011, 10:34 AM

wait. lol just realised the fine print. Promo's tomorrow, 2nd of April. one day deal.

temp root has been achieved. It's perm root that is still in the works, and perm root requires the unlocking of the bootloader (aka s-off), which cannot be done unless the devs have the key to sign it, which they do not have.

In short, crack the bootloader, perm root will achieved. Like I mentioned in the previous few page, s-off has been achieved via hardware intervention (XTC clip).

This post has been edited by DJFoo000: Apr 1 2011, 03:34 PM

why not try leaving that persistent app running and see if your battery gets affected?

Some apps are meant to run persistently in the background.

^i suggest a mod. It can be done without rooting. It's called Airplane Mode.

You phone can do more than the phones of the last generation. The price to pay is battery life, which isn't a lot also.

Battery technology has stagnated until carbon nanotube or nano supercapacitor research bears fruit. So in the mean time, live with it.

Can anyone that has persistent background running app stand up and clarify whether it eats battery life and memory?

This post has been edited by DJFoo000: Apr 9 2011, 05:57 PM

^you using a HTC android phone?

About Sense 3.0, i'm sure the problem is within the resolution. So far the Sensation ROM ports on DHD and Desire Z are not having much advancement coz the devs can't find a way to change the resolution. Either HTC hardcoded it, or it's a matter of time.