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jasonbourne222
post Apr 9 2011, 05:51 PM

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QUOTE(michael9413 @ Mar 15 2011, 12:57 PM)
If you look at singapore RRP 768 means around RM1800, that is official price... here i think should be replacing desire, so should be around RM1700~1900...

For recent Singapore price u can always refer back to whymobile website...

All smartphone battery life is bad... my dz now left around 60% after slight browsing since 12 till now and quite some numbers off calls...
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This has got to be my MAIN CONCERN..also for the rest of us...i dont see why they have to make so many changes to the phone but not focusing on the most important factor = energy / battery life.

with all the flashy package,"technology"marketing and such...and yet they still cant improve the battery life.. hmm.gif


Added on April 9, 2011, 5:53 pm
QUOTE(yehlai @ Apr 9 2011, 01:23 AM)
Why after kill the apps, they still keep restart ? How to stop the apps ?
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QUOTE(lexboy85 @ Apr 9 2011, 02:01 AM)
i have the same problem too.  cry.gif
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QUOTE(ck_boon @ Apr 9 2011, 09:41 AM)
but theres no way to stop it from kept restart apps, this is major android problem
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QUOTE(yehlai @ Apr 9 2011, 10:16 AM)
why don't need task killer? Those unused apps keep running drain a lot memory and battery.....

BTW, I found tht apps locks is totally useless, because anyone can just unlock it by uninstall the apps lock.... how stupid...
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Also, the apps in ANDROID..man, i have to say...gotta love android OS..the layout fits perfectly for the usage of smartphones today..but whats with the apps constantly running in the background?? like yehlai said, drains memory and battery...seems stupid...they seriously gotta FIX THAT!

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post Apr 9 2011, 05:56 PM

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^i suggest a mod. It can be done without rooting. It's called Airplane Mode.

You phone can do more than the phones of the last generation. The price to pay is battery life, which isn't a lot also.

Battery technology has stagnated until carbon nanotube or nano supercapacitor research bears fruit. So in the mean time, live with it.

Can anyone that has persistent background running app stand up and clarify whether it eats battery life and memory?

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Holyboy27
post Apr 9 2011, 06:31 PM

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I think killing the tasks using task killers use up more of the battery than leaving the apps as they are. Since the tasks restart ever so often, killing them again and again will use up more energy.

At first i got advanced task killer, automatic task killer to free ram. Apps like locations, plurk, facebook, news and weather, firefox, market just come back periodically. Then after some time, IS started to lag. to move from one homescreen to another was VERY laggy. Battery life was around 6-8 hours from chatting and browsing apps. it lasted longer when i did not do anything with the phone. task killer on crazy mode, killing task frequency set at every phone screen turn off.

After that, I uninstalled the task killers and no problem so far. No lag, apps start fine, ui is as smooth as it can be. battery lasts one working shift. I bring my phone, around 90% charged in the morning around 8 to 9am until after around 6 to 7pm. Remainder battery around 10%, granted i was only taking pictures, browse web, chatting and reading pdfs.

Playing hexdefense while listening to music for around 20 waves takes around 5% of battery - not really sure, but it sure was not 10%. Another instance,i played fullmetal heroes, den continued with glassdestroyer, then zenonia then hexdefense with opera turned on (and assumed to be in the background). each time, i only pressed back when there's no Quit option. subsequent games had no problem loading. music was uninterrupted. i didnt note the battery consumption but from this i assume the OS is doing it's job without the need for task killers.

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post Apr 9 2011, 08:03 PM

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so need optional for extended battery ?!!
why no body talk about it...
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post Apr 9 2011, 08:24 PM

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Hi guys... IS user reporting in. wink.gif

Got my IS sometime ago and we all know the battery lifespan is a pain in the butt. You gotta do this which I did and I'm now pretty satisfied with how my battery performs and I'm always running my WIFI at home, Data 3G, Full brightness, GPS (Papago) always while I'm working on the go and also I play lotsa games.

I could say after a few cycle of re-calibration, the meters turns out more accurate towards the real battery capacity.

A full charge in the morning before i leaves for work and by the time I'm home at around 8-9pm I'm happy with at least 30-50% battery remaining.

My 2 cents.

Here's what I did...(for now i do it once every 2 weeks.)
http://myhtcdesire.com/tutorials/how-to-im...ration-tutorial

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post Apr 9 2011, 09:56 PM

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did anyone experience alwayz pressing at the wrong side to lite up the screen. or izzit just me...
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post Apr 9 2011, 10:48 PM

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QUOTE(echosmiles @ Apr 9 2011, 08:24 PM)
Hi guys... IS user reporting in. wink.gif

Got my IS sometime ago and we all know the battery lifespan is a pain in the butt. You gotta do this which I did and I'm now pretty satisfied with how my battery performs and I'm always running my WIFI at home, Data 3G, Full brightness, GPS (Papago) always while I'm working on the go and also I play lotsa games.

I could say after a few cycle of re-calibration, the meters turns out more accurate towards the real battery capacity.

A full charge in the morning before i leaves for work and by the time I'm home at around 8-9pm I'm happy with at least 30-50% battery remaining.

My 2 cents.

Here's what I did...(for now i do it once every 2 weeks.)
http://myhtcdesire.com/tutorials/how-to-im...ration-tutorial
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Quick question, does the battery have to be dead for charging it 8 hours, or even with half battery can i?
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post Apr 10 2011, 12:08 AM

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QUOTE(lexboy85 @ Apr 9 2011, 05:18 PM)
hmm, then will it drain battery down?
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To kill and it being automatically restarting is more battery draining than just letting it sit there.
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post Apr 10 2011, 12:13 AM

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get my expensive case-mate + screen protector RM90 @sunway
cannot hold any longer with naked IS
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post Apr 10 2011, 12:36 AM

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QUOTE(xDjWanNabex @ Apr 9 2011, 10:48 PM)
Quick question, does the battery have to be dead for charging it 8 hours, or even with half battery can i?
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IS uses Li-Ion battery. If im not mistaken, anytime u can recharge and dont wait until empty only recharge, it will spoil the battery instead. Drain the batt once a month or so to calibrate the sensor.
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post Apr 10 2011, 12:48 AM

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How much a new battery cost?
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post Apr 10 2011, 01:32 AM

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QUOTE(xDjWanNabex @ Apr 9 2011, 10:48 PM)
Quick question, does the battery have to be dead for charging it 8 hours, or even with half battery can i?
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I do it when the battery reaches 5%. That seems to work pretty well.

PES2011 for android is AMAZING ....GOAL !!! flex.gif


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I still cant made up my mind, can anyone help me ? im confuse to choosing between , SE ARC, DHD and this IS...ARC i kinda like the camera funstion with Exmor R Mobile which take nice night shot, DHD with Big Screen...IS with nice screen and pocket Size..DHD is kinda big for pocket.. >.<
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QUOTE(kmbk @ Apr 10 2011, 12:13 AM)
get my expensive case-mate + screen protector RM90 @sunway
cannot hold any longer with naked IS
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Would u mind telling me which shop? I need to have that too... tongue.gif tongue.gif
jasonbourne222
post Apr 10 2011, 04:33 AM

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I HAVE FOUND A SOLUTION FOR THE BATTERY....UR ALL WELCOME, but it comes with a price...WORTH IT rclxms.gif

http://www.mugen-power-batteries.com/htc/h...-mobile-g2.html

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post Apr 10 2011, 06:47 AM

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1800mAh can extend how long? compare with our 1450mAh.
But our battery I'd still better than DHD

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post Apr 10 2011, 09:29 AM

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QUOTE(yehlai @ Apr 10 2011, 06:47 AM)
1800mAh can extend how long? compare with our 1450mAh.
But our battery I'd still better than DHD
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I have been using Mugen batteries for several of my Androids ( nexus, Galaxy S, Dell Streak ) . Based on the specs, theoretically you will get at 24 % more usage but in reality, you won't. I'd say is only about less than 20% - on average if on the INcredible S , perhaps additional 2+ hours ? However buying Mugen is still better than those cheaper generics as it is good quality and lifespan is longer. Cheap generic normaly breakdon 3 to 6 months ( based on my experience)


Added on April 10, 2011, 9:41 amMy opinion about battery life, apps lurking on background and task killers. I have been on Android since the Nexus One . In the first 2 months I used task killers or whatever app similar in function. However I have stop using it after 2 months and I can only say, without task killers the phone performs better, more stable. Battery life impact using task killer is insignificant as closed apps are only temporary. Google has issued official statement about task killers - in essence it is not necessary. However people are not listening and like to think otherwise . I am not a tech guy but I'd supposed the guys who develop Android know best behind their technolgy. This is Google's official statement :

QUOTE : By default, every application runs in its own Linux process. Android starts the process when any of the application's code needs to be executed, and shuts down the process when it's no longer needed and system resources are required by other applications.
A content provider is active only while it's responding to a request from a ContentResolver. And a broadcast receiver is active only while it's responding to a broadcast message. So there's no need to explicitly shut down these components.
Activities, on the other hand, provide the user interface. They're in a long-running conversation with the user and may remain active, even when idle, as long as the conversation continues. Similarly, services may also remain running for a long time. So Android has methods to shut down activities and services in an orderly way.


But the debate still continue - you can read these links for more information . There are still 2 sides - one supporting TK usage while some not. It is up to you to decide. I'd suggest you do away with whatever task killers and observe phone and battery usage and decide accordingly. If you are happy with using task killers - just go ahead . As for me, I don't use these tools anymore

Refer here for more information:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=6426198
http://geekfor.me/faq/you-shouldnt-be-usin...r-with-android/


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HTC makes more money with Android than WM. rclxms.gif rclxms.gif thumbup.gif

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HTC Corp. (2498), the Taiwanese company which overtook Nokia Oyj this week as the world’s third-largest phonemaker by market value, posted record quarterly profit and sales on demand for smartphones.

Net income almost tripled to NT$14.8 billion ($513 million) in the first quarter from NT$5 billion a year earlier, the Taoyuan, Taiwan-based company said in a statement today. That was higher than the NT$12.8 billion average of 18 analyst estimates compiled by Bloomberg.

Sales more than doubled as HTC benefited from rising demand for smartphones that use Google Inc. (GOOG)’s Android system and models that offer higher connection speeds. Profit may gain further this quarter as the company begins selling new devices including its first tablet computer, according to analyst estimates compiled by Bloomberg.

“We expect HTC’s new model launches in the second quarter to drive stronger shipment growth than peers in the next two quarters,” Jeff Pu, an analyst at Fubon Financial Holding Co. in Taipei who recommends investors “buy” the stock, wrote in a report yesterday.

HTC said Jan. 21 it expected to ship 8.5 million units for the quarter, more than double that of a year earlier and its second-highest following the 9.1 million sold in the fourth quarter. It didn’t provide first-quarter shipment numbers today. Net income may climb in the second quarter to NT$16.4 billion, according to the median of three analyst estimates compiled by Bloomberg in the past 28 days.
ThunderBolt Vs Iphone

Revenue rose to NT$104.2 billion, beating HTC’s own forecast for NT$94 billion, and surpassing the NT$95 billion average of 20 analyst estimates compiled by Bloomberg. That figure may climb to NT$112 billion this quarter, according to analyst estimates from the past 28 days.

The company’s ThunderBolt handset, using fourth-generation high speed networks, equaled sales of Apple Inc. (AAPL)’s iPhone in 61 percent of the 150 Verizon Wireless stores surveyed by New York- based BTIG LLC, analyst Walter Piecyk wrote in a March 31 report. ThunderBolt outsold iPhone in 28 percent of stores, according to the survey.

“Several respondents indicated that the store lines were longer for the first day of the ThunderBolt launch than they were for the iPhone,” Piecyk wrote. “Verizon sales people indicated that sales of the iPhone were still strong but they simply noted that the ThunderBolt was as strong if not stronger.”

The Taiwanese company’s first tablet, HTC Flyer, was unveiled on Feb. 15. Sales will begin in the second quarter, rivaling Apple’s iPad and Samsung Electronics Co.’s Galaxy. Flyer has a smaller screen and higher-resolution camera than Apple’s iPad2.
Overtaking Nokia

HTC’s stock, which has tripled in the past year, fell 3.3 percent to NT$1,160 at the 1:30 p.m. close of Taipei trading before the earnings were announced. Its market value surpassed that of Nokia on April 6, putting it behind only Apple and Samsung, before dropping back below the Finnish rival in trading today.

Global shipments of smartphones climbed 72 percent last year, more than double the 32 percent growth in the wider mobile devices market, researcher Gartner Inc. said in a Feb. 9 statement. Smartphones, the only type of phone HTC makes, accounted for 19 percent of market shipments last year, it said.

Google’s Android operating system, which HTC uses for its handsets and tablets, will run on 49 percent of smartphones sold globally next year, from 39 percent this year and 23 percent last year, Stamford, Connecticut-based Gartner said in a statement yesterday. The software platform will stay ahead of Research in Motion Inc.’s BlackBerry, and Apple’s iOS, it said.

None of the 36 analyst recommendations compiled by Bloomberg advise investors to sell HTC while 29 say “buy” the stock.

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post Apr 10 2011, 10:13 AM

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Hhehe i dun see any problem with the battery life. Get several micro usb cable. Put in ur office. Then car charger. Then in the bag put a sanyo mobile booster.

Lol charge when ever u like. Dun care about sayang ur battery lar. Once 2 week. recalibrate the battery lor.

After all, we are alll waiting for the sun global battery. hehehe 1 year change one. Oso cheap mar.
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QUOTE(NINJIAO @ Apr 10 2011, 10:13 AM)
Hhehe i dun see any problem with the battery life. Get several micro usb cable. Put in ur office. Then car charger. Then in the bag put a sanyo mobile booster.

Lol charge when ever u like. Dun care about sayang ur battery lar. Once 2 week.  recalibrate the battery lor.

After all, we are alll waiting for the sun global battery. hehehe 1 year change one. Oso cheap mar.
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Right on !!
My smartphone is always being charged while driving or in office. I also have 2 extra batteries for all my phones . So battery issue is not exactly a critical issue

The problem is many of the users here are not working man and they do not have cars. I noted many are students. For these guys, their best option is just to buy extra batteries. Seriously if one can afford close to RM2k for a phone, what is another RM 50 to RM100 for extra batteries

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