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post Mar 4 2011, 09:11 AM

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QUOTE(bayern24 @ Mar 4 2011, 08:07 AM)
underpower because their cant own one.
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post Mar 4 2011, 09:24 AM

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its different class very difficult to compare.

if you want cheap and easy to maintain car go for exora
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post Mar 4 2011, 09:32 AM

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duduk dlm rexton rase mcm naik motorbot.. not as in smooth sailing or what.. more to like bumpy and bunyi enjin kuat mcm ape
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QUOTE(ezwann @ Mar 3 2011, 10:11 PM)
new exora turbo will be available july/august
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Hey bro, are you sure? where did you get the source from cause I'm keen to know too. Wanna to get an Exora! biggrin.gif
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seriously, even B-Line Exora ald a fuel guzzler....alot of my fren said....come 2 think of the H-Line with additional accessories = more weight add ons...hw would u think of it?? some claim Exora B-line RM50 for only 2xx kilometres....

I think Rexton will b better choice, coz MPV Exora is seriously underpowered....when full load especially..
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post Mar 4 2011, 01:50 PM

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QUOTE(ahK @ Mar 4 2011, 08:04 AM)
rexton attracted me too due to his low market price now + it is 7 seaters.
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It's better if you're getting an used unit, but make sure everything is in good condition.

A new ones probably doesn't justify with the value depreciation of the car. doh.gif

I will go for Rexton over the Exora anytime. Spacious and comfort than a Exora, that's what i want in a SUV. But underpowered also lah both car. haha
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post Mar 4 2011, 01:54 PM

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Rexton maintenance cost is very high..once I saw somebody bring his rexton to nissan service centre to change engine oil but the mechanic don't know how to do it...so if u opt for rexton u must know a good rexton mechanic..now sang yong under mahindra
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post Mar 4 2011, 02:46 PM

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buying exora and say it's fuel consumption so high, if rm50 for 200+ km, i would say it's a steal for a normal sized mpv....can tell me how much alza can go with rm50 and it's small body? it would be 200+ also...

if cant afford the luxury, then just bear with smaller car.

like rexton, it's better than exora in any way. But do u really needed it and think it's take and ride without doing some so called normal maintenance for rexton (major maintenance for proton) ???

if u got budget and dun really care about the fuel, get a used or new harrier....engine is not bad, fuel is ok and car is comfort. ride more or less same class with all suv and luxury mpv.


Added on March 4, 2011, 2:48 pmthe only prob in getting a car is the maintenance..if u cant maintain urself, find a easier to maintain 1 to save the hassle...even if u rich to waste the money, dun forget about the time and effort too

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post Mar 4 2011, 03:11 PM

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Actually Proton MPV is one's of my list as i was told that JB to Ipoh just Rm 70.00 only.


Added on March 4, 2011, 3:14 pmok i found this place taking about Rexton.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SsangYong_Rexton



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post Mar 4 2011, 04:57 PM

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QUOTE(kapultek @ Mar 4 2011, 01:54 PM)
Rexton maintenance cost is very high..once I saw somebody bring his rexton to nissan service centre to change engine oil but the mechanic don't know how to do it...so if u opt for rexton u must know a good rexton mechanic..now sang yong under mahindra
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Rexton engine oil is that hard to replace? Oh gawd, then i must be proud of myself by knowing how to unbolt a nuts and release all the engine oil.

Engine oil - NO
ATF - Yes, very hard to replace, need to pump the ATF from undercarriage.
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post Mar 7 2011, 08:46 AM

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thanks for the comments..very helpful for me..I think i'm going for rexton..i'll share my experience with rexton with u all after this..cheers!
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QUOTE(XionCity @ Mar 4 2011, 11:20 AM)
seriously, even B-Line Exora ald a fuel guzzler....alot of my fren said....come 2 think of the H-Line with additional accessories = more weight add ons...hw would u think of it?? some claim Exora B-line RM50 for only 2xx kilometres....

I think Rexton will b better choice, coz MPV Exora is seriously underpowered....when full load especially..
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coz no data from alza or even other MPVs such as toyota wish as well

if u drive on of those MPV also same dee...where got fuel saving when driving MPV?in your dream
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QUOTE(e36.hartge @ Mar 7 2011, 11:55 AM)
biased
coz no data from alza or even other MPVs such as toyota wish as well

if u drive on of those MPV also same dee...where got fuel saving when driving MPV?in your dream
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MPV that fuel saving?? i guess Estima is the only choice...
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post Mar 8 2011, 09:57 AM

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MPV will only save fuel if u know to drive it correctly
LIke my case i have 2 driver driving the same car (avanza auto 1.3)
if i drive
full tank is abt 450-500km for 40L
if another driver sure stuck at 350-400km only

I know my car is underpower so i nvr push it hard i take my time to accelerate slowly and maintain stable speed

compare to another driver who drive it like sedan style and always accelerate and slow down ==!
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post May 4 2011, 09:07 PM

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QUOTE(ahK @ Mar 4 2011, 08:04 AM)
rexton attracted me too due to his low market price now + it is 7 seaters.
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i hv same view with u, it really attracted me to hv 1 too.
my friend advice me to choose 280model, hazard free compare 270xdi
what is ur opinion & advice?
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post May 4 2011, 11:35 PM

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QUOTE(yes029 @ May 4 2011, 10:07 PM)
i hv same view with u, it really attracted me to hv 1 too.
my friend advice me to choose 280model, hazard free compare 270xdi
what is ur opinion & advice?
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sorry to interupt,
if any bro here want to buy rexton or have rexton kindly join us at rexton hub.

http://forum.autoworld.com.my/index.php?showforum=117

there, we have discussion for new bro to know more about rexton(maintenance, driving experience, spec, choices) n for bro that have it already we can discuss how to get right maintenance without burn your pocket.

happy motoring

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post May 31 2011, 02:36 AM

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QUOTE(victor87 @ Mar 3 2011, 07:47 PM)
Owned a RX290 Rexton.

Parts isn't that EXPENSIVE if you know where to source from. Even authorized SC is trying to cutting off their customer throat, what more for those outside local spare parts shop?? Been went through overhaul the gearbox by authorized SC for 3 fcking times, end up buying a clutch plate worth RM68 (expensive lah) and got it replace by my own worker in my own workshop.. Been serving me so far so good, at least until now.

Fuel consumption wasn't that bad neither, a good full tank could get me at least 550KM, assume that i only drive 20KM away from my living area to my office.


Added on March 3, 2011, 7:49 pmAdd ons: By the way, i do not recommend getting a Rexton. As what howie said, good luck with Rexton.

I have 2 friend own the same car, same model as mine. One of them do not have any transmission problem like me and another friend of mine do.

Good news is, he's clocking almost 350k KM on his Rexton already, he's travel quite a distance weekly (Chemor > KL > Chemor > KL)
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You are right. Parts are expensive because SC is charging 2X~3X highers. With RextonHub established, we have direct contact with parts wholesaler and parts supplier, locally or from Korea directly.

Most of the common problem are caused by poor maintenance and wrong diagnosis done by inexperienced workshop that do not have the right tools, skills and experience with such luxury SUV, just like not every workshop can handle Mercs.

RX270XDI has much better FC that can easily get 600km with RM120 fuel on city drive and 700~750km on highway drive within legal speed limit. With ever increasing price of petrol, the FC is as cheap as sedan.

Currently, we are active at http://forum.autoworld.com.my/index.php?showforum=117 but will be migrating to our own forum at RextonHub.com soon. Can post any questions or issues related to Rexton there, we have Technical Advisor and a group of active owners interacting actively.


Added on May 31, 2011, 2:39 am
QUOTE(yes029 @ May 4 2011, 09:07 PM)
i hv same view with u, it really attracted me to hv 1 too.
my friend advice me to choose 280model, hazard free compare 270xdi
what is ur opinion & advice?
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RX280 is older model with 4 speed. If you really wanted petrol, should go for RX320 that comes with 5 speed if you don't mind higher road tax.

But the best choice is RX270XDI that has higher torque, much refined than older model, better FC, newer engine and transmission. Test drive one or read our forum to know more details.


Added on May 31, 2011, 2:45 am
QUOTE(shinnosuke @ Mar 3 2011, 07:02 PM)
i always heard exora underpower but never from anyone experience it. Why don't you try test drive?
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I have tested drive Exora last year when it was launched not long. To avoid being labeled as biased, I suggest those interested buyers to test drive in following condition

1. Get 5 adults + 2 kids (that's what 7 seaters MPV meant for) on board. Try to time the acceleration from 0 ~ 50kmh, see if you can get within 8 sec.

2. Then cruise at 80kmh and try to push to 120kmh, time the acceleration and RPM that you getting. The higher RPM you get will be higher the FC.

With these 2 simple and basic test, you will know if the car is underpower or not. Can test on any straight flat road, don't need to climb hill or with heavy luggages or 7 adults.


Added on May 31, 2011, 2:47 am
QUOTE(imin @ Mar 4 2011, 09:32 AM)
duduk dlm rexton rase mcm naik motorbot.. not as in smooth sailing or what.. more to like bumpy and bunyi enjin kuat mcm ape
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Please be welcome to attend any of the RextonHub gathering to try if any of the Rexton's bunyi engine kuat macam ape, you will get to enjoy a free lunch too.


Added on May 31, 2011, 2:50 am
QUOTE(kapultek @ Mar 4 2011, 01:54 PM)
Rexton maintenance cost is very high..once I saw somebody bring his rexton to nissan service centre to change engine oil but the mechanic don't know how to do it...so if u opt for rexton u must know a good rexton mechanic..now sang yong under mahindra
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Why would that somebody go to nissan service center to service Rexton? Obviously, they do not have the experience and right tools to do the job. Would you drive a Mercs to Proton SC for servicing?

With panel workshop and SC establised in all major cities, shouldn't be any problem to handle most of the issues. If not, plenty Mercs workshop can handle as well.

You are getting a Merc technology and luxury at a fraction of its cost, why not?


Added on May 31, 2011, 2:54 am
QUOTE(victor87 @ Mar 4 2011, 01:50 PM)
It's better if you're getting an used unit, but make sure everything is in good condition.

A new ones probably doesn't justify with the value depreciation of the car.  doh.gif

I will go for Rexton over the Exora anytime. Spacious and comfort than a Exora, that's what i want in a SUV. But underpowered also lah both car. haha
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All korean cars depreciate badly, hopefully this improve over time as Korean branding and demand has been increasing over the years. Korean brands are doing very well in Europe, US and UK which helps to improve local sentiment too. New Korean model like Hyundai Tuscon and Sonata is selling like hot cake with 3~6 months waiting time, something unseen previously.

RX290 power could be not as good but if well maintained it is good workhorse. Rexton RX270XDI has much better power. Original stock condition is getting 13 sec for 0~100 and remap one could get 10~11 sec. Power is ever ready for you to push.


Added on May 31, 2011, 2:59 am
QUOTE(victor87 @ Mar 4 2011, 04:57 PM)
Rexton engine oil is that hard to replace? Oh gawd, then i must be proud of myself by knowing how to unbolt a nuts and release all the engine oil.

Engine oil - NO
ATF - Yes, very hard to replace, need to pump the ATF from undercarriage.
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Caltex Delo 400 that is meeting the requirement of CI-4 is available at all Caltex petrol station, not difficult to get. Can also buy thru the Hub.

Why dirty your hand and go under carriage if you can just pay RM20~RM30 for workshop to replace them?

Only RX290 need to pump ATF from under carriage but if you have the right tools, it is not that hard. This is the same for lots of older diesel engine too. RX270XDI is just topping up from engine cabin like any other car. If the workshop has ATF Recyling Machine, they can just suck, flush and replace new ATF oil easily.

This post has been edited by RextonHub: May 31 2011, 03:02 AM
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QUOTE(akchang @ Mar 4 2011, 10:32 AM)
Hey bro, are you sure? where did you get the source from cause I'm keen to know too. Wanna to get an Exora! biggrin.gif
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Yes. Coming out very soon. DON'T BUY EXORA NOW. Regret kaw-kaw few months later.


Added on May 31, 2011, 8:47 am
QUOTE(XionCity @ Mar 7 2011, 11:59 AM)
MPV that fuel saving?? i guess Estima is the only choice...
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Estima fuel saving???? My boss Estima 3.0....7km/l (city driving). This is saving meh??? Basically, large car with large cc, driving in city=no way to save.

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QUOTE(RextonHub @ May 31 2011, 02:36 AM)
You are right. Parts are expensive because SC is charging 2X~3X highers. With RextonHub established, we have direct contact with parts wholesaler and parts supplier, locally or from Korea directly.

Most of the common problem are caused by poor maintenance and wrong diagnosis done by inexperienced workshop that do not have the right tools, skills and experience with such luxury SUV, just like not every workshop can handle  Mercs.

RX270XDI has much better FC that can easily get 600km with RM120 fuel on city drive and 700~750km on highway drive within legal speed limit. With ever increasing price of petrol, the FC is as cheap as sedan.

Currently, we are active at http://forum.autoworld.com.my/index.php?showforum=117 but will be migrating to our own forum at RextonHub.com soon. Can post any questions or issues related to Rexton there, we have Technical Advisor and a group of active owners interacting actively.


Added on May 31, 2011, 2:39 am

RX280 is older model with 4 speed. If you really wanted petrol, should go for RX320 that comes with 5 speed if you don't mind higher road tax.

But the best choice is RX270XDI that has higher torque, much refined than older model, better FC, newer engine and transmission. Test drive one or read our forum to know more details.


Added on May 31, 2011, 2:45 am

I have tested drive Exora last year when it was launched not long. To avoid being labeled as biased, I suggest those interested buyers to test drive in following condition

1. Get 5 adults + 2 kids (that's what 7 seaters MPV meant for) on board. Try to time the acceleration from 0 ~ 50kmh, see if you can get within 8 sec.

2. Then cruise at 80kmh and try to push to 120kmh, time the acceleration and RPM that you getting. The higher RPM you get will be higher the FC.

With these 2 simple and basic test, you will know if the car is underpower or not. Can test on any straight flat road, don't need to climb hill or with heavy luggages or 7 adults.


Added on May 31, 2011, 2:47 am

Please be welcome to attend any of the RextonHub gathering to try if any of the Rexton's bunyi engine kuat macam ape, you will get to enjoy a free lunch too.


Added on May 31, 2011, 2:50 am

Why would that somebody go to nissan service center to service Rexton? Obviously, they do not have the experience and right tools to do the job. Would you drive a Mercs to Proton SC for servicing?

With panel workshop and SC establised in all major cities, shouldn't be any problem to handle most of the issues. If not, plenty Mercs workshop can handle as well.

You are getting a Merc technology and luxury at a fraction of its cost, why not?


Added on May 31, 2011, 2:54 am

All korean cars depreciate badly, hopefully this improve over time as Korean branding and demand has been increasing over the years. Korean brands are doing very well in Europe, US and UK which helps to improve local sentiment too. New Korean model like Hyundai Tuscon and Sonata is selling like hot cake with 3~6 months waiting time, something unseen previously.

RX290 power could be not as good but if well maintained it is good workhorse. Rexton RX270XDI has much better power. Original stock condition is getting 13 sec for 0~100 and remap one could get 10~11 sec. Power is ever ready for you to push.


Added on May 31, 2011, 2:59 am

Caltex Delo 400 that is meeting the requirement of CI-4 is available at all Caltex petrol station, not difficult to get. Can also buy thru the Hub.

Why dirty your hand and go under carriage if you can just pay RM20~RM30 for workshop to replace them?

Only RX290 need to pump ATF from under carriage but if you have the right tools, it is not that hard. This is the same for lots of older diesel engine too. RX270XDI is just topping up from engine cabin like any other car. If the workshop has ATF Recyling Machine, they can just suck, flush and replace new ATF oil easily.
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Please list which Caltex petrol station that i can get Delo 400. I find almost 3 Caltex nearby my area in Klang and Shah Alam, none of them sells Delo 400. I got my Delo 400 for RM170 for a 18litres packing from Winko Industrial which is distributor for Caltex lubricants located in Pandamaran, Port Klang. How much would Hub cost?

Yes, RM20~RM30 is nothing, but i am someone who take good care of my car, i'd rather do everything myself than sending to workshop i am not familiar. Had bad experience with one of the authorized SC, sent my Rexton for servicing while it's still new & under warranty, get my car in with everything at working condition, get out with my RHD electronic side mirror malfunctioning. Questioned but denied it is their fault, well, i can't say a thing because i never witness a thing myself since they don't allow customer to enter their workplace. wink.gif

Parts from so called authorized dealer is expensive. Marked up at least 30~40% compare to spare parts shop who sells the same genuine parts. Automatic transmission of the RX290 was a b**** to maintain, went through overhaul for 2 times by SC, yes, it worked, and it only last for a year per overhaul done. Give up on their so called "skill" and rely on my own and my worker. Added a few clutch plate which cost less than RM80 between the gaps, it solved all the transmission problem, at least for 4 years till now. Only disadvantage is no more smooth gear changing, but better than the transmission f#cked up in the middle of road/freeway. I don't blame the SC, but once you understand how the transmission was designed to function, you'd really get pissed.

Engine from Merc is robust and good, no problem at all despite it's making near 200,000KM mark, only thing is underpowered (it doesn't matter much since we bought this SUV for comfort and can fetch loads of person on board). Fuel consumption is considered good too.

Will i ever buy a Ssangyong in future: Hell NO !

Just point out my view on this RX290 which my family owned one, never owned an 270 so can't give much comment. This is a forum, i guess we have the freedom to give our POV based on our ownership.
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QUOTE(victor87 @ May 31 2011, 02:57 PM)
Please list which Caltex petrol station that i can get Delo 400. I find almost 3 Caltex nearby my area in Klang and Shah Alam, none of them sells Delo 400. I got my Delo 400 for RM170 for a 18litres packing from Winko Industrial which is distributor for Caltex lubricants located in Pandamaran, Port Klang. How much would Hub cost?


I maybe luckier than you. I found Caltex Delo 400 right on the first Caltex Petrol Station in Sea Park, though I rarely in PJ/KL. Hub do not carry Caltex Delo 400 because Titan HPE Ultra 15W40 meeting the spec of MB 228.3/229.1 .

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Yes, RM20~RM30 is nothing, but i am someone who take good care of my car, i'd rather do everything myself than sending to workshop i am not familiar. Had bad experience with one of the authorized SC, sent my Rexton for servicing while it's still new & under warranty, get my car in with everything at working condition, get out with my RHD electronic side mirror malfunctioning. Questioned but denied it is their fault, well, i can't say a thing because i never witness a thing myself since they don't allow customer to enter their workplace.  wink.gif


Not all SC are good and we have received feedback from members that some are even worse. That's why we established panel SC and workshop that we recommend members to go.

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Parts from so called authorized dealer is expensive. Marked up at least 30~40% compare to spare parts shop who sells the same genuine parts. Automatic transmission of the RX290 was a b**** to maintain, went through overhaul for 2 times by SC, yes, it worked, and it only last for a year per overhaul done. Give up on their so called "skill" and rely on my own and my worker. Added a few clutch plate which cost less than RM80 between the gaps, it solved all the transmission problem, at least for 4 years till now. Only disadvantage is no more smooth gear changing, but better than the transmission f#cked up in the middle of road/freeway. I don't blame the SC, but once you understand how the transmission was designed to function, you'd really get pissed.


There are more complaints on RX290, can't blame it for 1990s technologies. That's why its price drop to RM30k~RM40k for 2002/2003. The engine is from Musso generation that was manufactured since mid 90s.

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Engine from Merc is robust and good, no problem at all despite it's making near 200,000KM mark, only thing is underpowered (it doesn't matter much since we bought this SUV for comfort and can fetch loads of person on board). Fuel consumption is considered good too.

Will i ever buy a Ssangyong in future: Hell NO !


RX290 is indeed underpowered but if you take similar diesel engine of the same age, they are all at about the same range. If one has a budget, we always recommend them going for RX270XDI. If not, what SUV could you get for RM30k~RM40k. 12 years old Pajero any better? BTW, Vector Tunebox doesn't work with RX290?

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Just point out my view on this RX290 which my family owned one, never owned an 270 so can't give much comment. This is a forum, i guess we have the freedom to give our POV based on our ownership.
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Of course, anyone are free to share their viewpoints. One view could be inaccurate but if all the members share the same view, it can't be far from fact.

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