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 2nd Rexton or New Exora?, Need advise here..thanks

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victor87
post Mar 3 2011, 07:47 PM

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Owned a RX290 Rexton.

Parts isn't that EXPENSIVE if you know where to source from. Even authorized SC is trying to cutting off their customer throat, what more for those outside local spare parts shop?? Been went through overhaul the gearbox by authorized SC for 3 fcking times, end up buying a clutch plate worth RM68 (expensive lah) and got it replace by my own worker in my own workshop.. Been serving me so far so good, at least until now.

Fuel consumption wasn't that bad neither, a good full tank could get me at least 550KM, assume that i only drive 20KM away from my living area to my office.


Added on March 3, 2011, 7:49 pmAdd ons: By the way, i do not recommend getting a Rexton. As what howie said, good luck with Rexton.

I have 2 friend own the same car, same model as mine. One of them do not have any transmission problem like me and another friend of mine do.

Good news is, he's clocking almost 350k KM on his Rexton already, he's travel quite a distance weekly (Chemor > KL > Chemor > KL)

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post Mar 3 2011, 08:10 PM

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QUOTE(dark^^sora @ Mar 3 2011, 08:03 PM)
ermm..how about the handling for rexton?i've already test drive for exora,for me it is good enough..if i want to drive like crazy then should go for sedan and bikin2 itu kereta..
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Turning radius is very wide, handling is acceptable, comfort is top notch (at least to me).

It really serves well as a SUV, just the older model of Rexton like mine has transmission problem. The newer RX270 has improve their transmission though wink.gif The car is very comfort, a very good family car... Tried bringing 6 person on board and drive to Thai for a week holiday. thumbup.gif


Added on March 3, 2011, 8:13 pmThe value of the car depreciate alot !

Bought new including interest for like nearly RM203k for 7 year back then, now it's only 40k+ for a used one. sad.gif

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post Mar 4 2011, 01:50 PM

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QUOTE(ahK @ Mar 4 2011, 08:04 AM)
rexton attracted me too due to his low market price now + it is 7 seaters.
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It's better if you're getting an used unit, but make sure everything is in good condition.

A new ones probably doesn't justify with the value depreciation of the car. doh.gif

I will go for Rexton over the Exora anytime. Spacious and comfort than a Exora, that's what i want in a SUV. But underpowered also lah both car. haha
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post Mar 4 2011, 04:57 PM

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QUOTE(kapultek @ Mar 4 2011, 01:54 PM)
Rexton maintenance cost is very high..once I saw somebody bring his rexton to nissan service centre to change engine oil but the mechanic don't know how to do it...so if u opt for rexton u must know a good rexton mechanic..now sang yong under mahindra
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Rexton engine oil is that hard to replace? Oh gawd, then i must be proud of myself by knowing how to unbolt a nuts and release all the engine oil.

Engine oil - NO
ATF - Yes, very hard to replace, need to pump the ATF from undercarriage.
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post May 31 2011, 02:57 PM

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QUOTE(RextonHub @ May 31 2011, 02:36 AM)
You are right. Parts are expensive because SC is charging 2X~3X highers. With RextonHub established, we have direct contact with parts wholesaler and parts supplier, locally or from Korea directly.

Most of the common problem are caused by poor maintenance and wrong diagnosis done by inexperienced workshop that do not have the right tools, skills and experience with such luxury SUV, just like not every workshop can handle  Mercs.

RX270XDI has much better FC that can easily get 600km with RM120 fuel on city drive and 700~750km on highway drive within legal speed limit. With ever increasing price of petrol, the FC is as cheap as sedan.

Currently, we are active at http://forum.autoworld.com.my/index.php?showforum=117 but will be migrating to our own forum at RextonHub.com soon. Can post any questions or issues related to Rexton there, we have Technical Advisor and a group of active owners interacting actively.


Added on May 31, 2011, 2:39 am

RX280 is older model with 4 speed. If you really wanted petrol, should go for RX320 that comes with 5 speed if you don't mind higher road tax.

But the best choice is RX270XDI that has higher torque, much refined than older model, better FC, newer engine and transmission. Test drive one or read our forum to know more details.


Added on May 31, 2011, 2:45 am

I have tested drive Exora last year when it was launched not long. To avoid being labeled as biased, I suggest those interested buyers to test drive in following condition

1. Get 5 adults + 2 kids (that's what 7 seaters MPV meant for) on board. Try to time the acceleration from 0 ~ 50kmh, see if you can get within 8 sec.

2. Then cruise at 80kmh and try to push to 120kmh, time the acceleration and RPM that you getting. The higher RPM you get will be higher the FC.

With these 2 simple and basic test, you will know if the car is underpower or not. Can test on any straight flat road, don't need to climb hill or with heavy luggages or 7 adults.


Added on May 31, 2011, 2:47 am

Please be welcome to attend any of the RextonHub gathering to try if any of the Rexton's bunyi engine kuat macam ape, you will get to enjoy a free lunch too.


Added on May 31, 2011, 2:50 am

Why would that somebody go to nissan service center to service Rexton? Obviously, they do not have the experience and right tools to do the job. Would you drive a Mercs to Proton SC for servicing?

With panel workshop and SC establised in all major cities, shouldn't be any problem to handle most of the issues. If not, plenty Mercs workshop can handle as well.

You are getting a Merc technology and luxury at a fraction of its cost, why not?


Added on May 31, 2011, 2:54 am

All korean cars depreciate badly, hopefully this improve over time as Korean branding and demand has been increasing over the years. Korean brands are doing very well in Europe, US and UK which helps to improve local sentiment too. New Korean model like Hyundai Tuscon and Sonata is selling like hot cake with 3~6 months waiting time, something unseen previously.

RX290 power could be not as good but if well maintained it is good workhorse. Rexton RX270XDI has much better power. Original stock condition is getting 13 sec for 0~100 and remap one could get 10~11 sec. Power is ever ready for you to push.


Added on May 31, 2011, 2:59 am

Caltex Delo 400 that is meeting the requirement of CI-4 is available at all Caltex petrol station, not difficult to get. Can also buy thru the Hub.

Why dirty your hand and go under carriage if you can just pay RM20~RM30 for workshop to replace them?

Only RX290 need to pump ATF from under carriage but if you have the right tools, it is not that hard. This is the same for lots of older diesel engine too. RX270XDI is just topping up from engine cabin like any other car. If the workshop has ATF Recyling Machine, they can just suck, flush and replace new ATF oil easily.
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Please list which Caltex petrol station that i can get Delo 400. I find almost 3 Caltex nearby my area in Klang and Shah Alam, none of them sells Delo 400. I got my Delo 400 for RM170 for a 18litres packing from Winko Industrial which is distributor for Caltex lubricants located in Pandamaran, Port Klang. How much would Hub cost?

Yes, RM20~RM30 is nothing, but i am someone who take good care of my car, i'd rather do everything myself than sending to workshop i am not familiar. Had bad experience with one of the authorized SC, sent my Rexton for servicing while it's still new & under warranty, get my car in with everything at working condition, get out with my RHD electronic side mirror malfunctioning. Questioned but denied it is their fault, well, i can't say a thing because i never witness a thing myself since they don't allow customer to enter their workplace. wink.gif

Parts from so called authorized dealer is expensive. Marked up at least 30~40% compare to spare parts shop who sells the same genuine parts. Automatic transmission of the RX290 was a b**** to maintain, went through overhaul for 2 times by SC, yes, it worked, and it only last for a year per overhaul done. Give up on their so called "skill" and rely on my own and my worker. Added a few clutch plate which cost less than RM80 between the gaps, it solved all the transmission problem, at least for 4 years till now. Only disadvantage is no more smooth gear changing, but better than the transmission f#cked up in the middle of road/freeway. I don't blame the SC, but once you understand how the transmission was designed to function, you'd really get pissed.

Engine from Merc is robust and good, no problem at all despite it's making near 200,000KM mark, only thing is underpowered (it doesn't matter much since we bought this SUV for comfort and can fetch loads of person on board). Fuel consumption is considered good too.

Will i ever buy a Ssangyong in future: Hell NO !

Just point out my view on this RX290 which my family owned one, never owned an 270 so can't give much comment. This is a forum, i guess we have the freedom to give our POV based on our ownership.
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post May 31 2011, 10:21 PM

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QUOTE(RextonHub @ May 31 2011, 08:09 PM)
I maybe luckier than you. I found Caltex Delo 400 right on the first Caltex Petrol Station in Sea Park, though I rarely in PJ/KL. Hub do not carry Caltex Delo 400 because Titan HPE Ultra 15W40 meeting the spec of MB 228.3/229.1 .
Not all SC are good and we have received feedback from members that some are even worse. That's why we established panel SC and workshop that we recommend members to go.
There are more complaints on RX290, can't blame it for 1990s technologies. That's why its price drop to RM30k~RM40k for 2002/2003. The engine is from Musso generation that was manufactured since mid 90s.
RX290 is indeed underpowered but if you take similar diesel engine of the same age, they are all at about the same range. If one has a budget, we always recommend them going for RX270XDI. If not, what SUV could you get for RM30k~RM40k. 12 years old Pajero any better? BTW, Vector Tunebox doesn't work with RX290?
Of course, anyone are free to share their viewpoints. One view could be inaccurate but if all the members share the same view, it can't be far from fact.
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At least i got people to share my problem with.

Vector don't work on 290 since it's not commonrail.

We would have go for 270XDi if they introduce this model earlier. We bought the 290 at first batch... doh.gif

Bro, where is your workshop?

 

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