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 The Raw Selvedge Denim Thread, Version 4

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TSGrimm
post Jun 30 2011, 04:42 PM

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@Holyboyz,

You told her you wanted to taper but you also wanted to preserve the selvedge line?

This is what I presume happened.

1. She cut off probably 1-2 inches.
2. Then tapered your APCs from knee down.

But she forgot step 3 - to taper the excess ankle cuffs that she cut out.
She skipped straight to Step 4.

4. Re-stitch them together well, so it is not noticeable.

Correct? No wonder it looks a bit like bootcut now. There was a post I read about tapering and still maintaining the selvedge strip. I'm pretty sure I got it from either someone's post here...


Added on June 30, 2011, 4:44 pmSeul is the only one ewith Atelier here biggrin.gif

I think that is your only pair that is wearable in summer huh? Ironhearts will melt your legs with that heat all trapped in.

I personally dislike those backpockets... but that's just me. I know a few friends who dislike the nudies backpocket stitching.

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post Jun 30 2011, 06:28 PM

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That alteration is about as good as is possible. How else are you going to taper it? (That was not a question.)

At least they didn't do it the way this shop in KLCC did it to a forumer's selvedge. The jeans came back a non-selvedge after the alteration, LOL!
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QUOTE(mysa_strato @ Jun 30 2011, 02:43 AM)
Wow. Atelier LaDurance. How is the jeans compared to Japanese brand?
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14 oz Japanese denim. It feels soft and thin. I can only wear these when it's warmer. 21 oz. otherwise!..



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post Jul 2 2011, 12:01 PM

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Urgh, can anyone carry nudies back ? I can't find them in Lowyat sad.gif
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QUOTE(Vryon @ Jul 2 2011, 01:01 PM)
Urgh, can anyone carry nudies back ? I can't find them in Lowyat sad.gif
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Had two pairs but I sold them before I came back. Definitely not worth full retail but I got a pretty good deal on them so I didn't mind.

If you're willing to pay full retail, I can ask my friends in Canada. Should only be about RM30 extra to ship it over.
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post Jul 2 2011, 08:47 PM

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I do not know if there is anyone who wear 21 oz here.
15 oz also already like... not comfortable.
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post Jul 3 2011, 12:07 AM

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Definitely there are..

Layang2 has been in 21oz since idunnowhen. I think there are a few others who dig heavy IronHearts.


Added on July 3, 2011, 2:32 amuser posted image

some pics of lower leg of DH MIJ raw.

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post Jul 3 2011, 02:03 PM

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Man, tell us some stories...
Get all sweaty during 12.00 - 3.00 P.M.?
Iron Heart is definitely a cool brand but I'm not sure if I wear it here I will feel cool.
I mean, 'cold/comfy'... not that "Stylo" definition of cool.
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Hi,

is average joe DRY SELVADGE size is true size?

email cultizm said that AJ 30 = 30.5 BUT grim tim is true size

anyone ?

TQ


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post Jul 3 2011, 10:51 PM

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I found this on HWZ. This, of course, is his opinion. Everyone is entitled to their opinion. There are two camps on washing, among denim enthusiasts. This guy is on the washing camp.

ASK THE PRO
Tips on Maintenance

Denim Works, located in Shibuya, is a shop that's trusted by serious denim collectors. They do everything from repairs and hemming with chain stitches, customizations such as downsizing the waist size and modifying the silhouette, production of original jeans and made-to-order jeans. It's an incredible shop for denim lovers looking for highly skilled help and practical advice.

The owner of Denim Works, Takashi Fukuda, who has done countless numbers of denim repairs shares his maintenance knowledge here.

1. Is it true that you shouldn't wash your jeans to get beautiful contrasts?

It is true if you are looking just for contrasts. But as you wear your jeans, sweat and grease gets inside the fabric, making it soggier and weaker against abrasion. In other words, your denim becomes prone to rip apart. So if you want your denim to last you should wash your denim often. During winter, wash your denim when it starts feeling a little damp.

2. Is it true that it's better to turn your jeans inside-out when you wash them?

If you read fashion magazines and stuff, they'll say things like, "Dry your jeans inside-out. If not your denim will get sunburned and will lose its color." But when it comes to vintage denim, it's a different story. Quite often, vintage jeans will have threads that have weakened over time. If you turn the jeans inside-out, the thread can get caught in the washing machine, causing it to tear apart. If possible, put your jeans, without turning it inside-out, inside a net before throwing it into a washing machine, then wash softly. Because it's a precious article, one might think of washing it slowly with hand... but that's going a bit too overboard. When you're drying it, don't worry about things like sunburns. For example, if you're wearing your jeans during summer, you're exposing it in the sun the whole time, yet it's never a problem. However, if you have just purchased a new denim, you would want to wash your jeans two to three times inside-out to get rid of starch.

3. Will your fabric tighten up and become more durable if you dry your denim in a dryer?

It's not like it's absolutely bad, but if you use a dryer, your fabric will shrink radically and the denim's surface will become soft. If you prefer your denim to be somewhat rigid, it's much better to dry it naturally in the sun. It will dry crisply and it also feels good to wear something that has been sitting in the sun. Drying naturally is the best.

4. Is it better to avoid detergent with bleach?

Bleach, not only will turn your whole jeans white, but will also hurt its fabric. You probably don't have to worry about detergents with just tiny amount of bleach in it. But for those who really care, it's probably better to use denim detergents specifically designed to effectively remove grease and stains. I've actually heard of people who use spring water to wash their denims to avoid small amount of chlorine that's inside tap water, but I wouldn't worry about such a small amount of chlorine.

5. I've heard I shouldn't use any detergent, but is it okay to use it when I feel like my jeans are getting too dirty?

While ago during vintage denim craze, it was said that it's cool to not wash your jeans. There was a time when people celebrated the idea of not washing and respected people who claimed "I haven't washed my jeans for one whole year." But that's just a myth and it's better to wash your jeans often. Cellulose inside sweat and grease damages the fabric. If you let your jeans go dirty for a while, it could cause your denim to tear suddenly. If you wash often, your fabric can stay in a good shape and will result in longevity.

6. If my denim rips, can I repair it myself?

If you don't screw up basic procedures, you can repair simple tears in places like the knee and the crotch. I even recommend this to customers who visit my shop. For patching, you can buy the denim from fabric stores or get them from jeans you've stopped wearing. Then all you need to do is just carefully sew using a sewing machine. If you sew along the direction of your denim's weave pattern, it'll be hard to notice the patch. Another way to do it is to use a fabric from your favorite shirt you can't wear anymore and patch your jeans up in a trendy fashion. Things like that could deepen your affection toward your jeans.

7. Take preventative measures before damage worsens. (Extra)

I'll never say things like "Store it in the drawers because it's vintage!" Vintage jeans are cool when they are worn. But of course, jeans that have been worn for years have denim fabric and threads that have become fragile. Especially cotton yarns are very prone to tears. Although you can't change this fact, it's better to take preventative measures like patching your denim early before they start to rip apart. Other than that, you can maintain your denim by washing and drying in ways that won't harm the fabric as explained in this page.

SOS: http://forums.hardwarezone.com.sg/showthre...659640&page=641



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post Jul 4 2011, 03:29 AM

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the exact same thing Kiya of selfedge told me before hhehehe

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Gurus, I need to know what is the difference between Levi's jeans and some other brands which are more expensive like the japan blue or something?
I'm sorry if this question had been asked before.

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QUOTE(saru04 @ Jul 4 2011, 03:53 PM)
Gurus, I need to know what is the difference between Levi's jeans and some other brands which are more expensive like the japan blue or something?
I'm sorry if this question had been asked before.
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Jeans classified into several group which is Raw/Pre-Washed/Washed and Selvedge/Non-Selvedge. I believe Raw Denim and Selvedge denim cost more than normal denim. (Please correct me if i am wrong as i am in progress of learning, thank you.)
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i see, but why japanese jeans seems to be so pricey?
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QUOTE(saru04 @ Jul 4 2011, 06:15 PM)
i see, but why japanese jeans seems to be so pricey?
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uniqlo jeans is at very good price but made in china.

if you really want to know why , please read the thread from page 1 but the previous version of this thread.
or goto this link raw denim

one thing you need to understand, japanese jeans makers look up to Levi's Vintage esp the 501 and try to reproduce the same kind of cutting
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i see.
have you heard of the samurai jeans or something?
it is very pricey. what makes it special?
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QUOTE(saru04 @ Jul 4 2011, 07:07 PM)
i see.
have you heard of the samurai jeans or something?
it is very pricey. what makes it special?
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Japanese made and brand. Very premium, but still I like the imperial and nudie more
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post Jul 5 2011, 02:45 AM

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QUOTE(Vryon @ Jul 4 2011, 11:30 PM)
Japanese made and brand. Very premium, but still I like the imperial and nudie more
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i know it is premium but why is it pricey?
because some of it is handmade as in not using machine?
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The quality itself. The materials. Time that consumed for making it. This video explain it all.


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QUOTE(bugb34r @ Jul 5 2011, 03:06 AM)
The quality itself. The materials. Time that consumed for making it. This video explain it all.


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I've seen that video before.
the hand work is beautiful but I am just very surprised with the price.
and it also got me wondering.
thank you for your info bro!

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