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 VW Polo 1.2 VS Peugeot 308 Turbo, Please help

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kenso77
post Dec 31 2012, 06:23 PM

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QUOTE(multiplexer @ Dec 31 2012, 04:49 PM)
.. and i could see the fc from the info display.. yup.. it was 18.4l/100km..
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Your friend seem to have a heavy foot .... but then I never really trusted digital displays much .... it could go up or down drastically depending on how the car is being driven.
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post Dec 31 2012, 06:25 PM

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I used to own a polo tsi.. the back seating space is small. But it is a joy to drive....really fun!!
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post Jan 1 2013, 11:29 AM

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QUOTE(Madgeiser @ Dec 31 2012, 05:25 PM)
Polo should be tighter, seeing the 308T is a C-Seg car, while Polo is B-Seg.
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308 is a C-Seg car? Awfully small for a c-seg car.
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post Jan 1 2013, 11:38 AM

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i think in layman's term,

polo = viva interior space

308thp/golf = myvi interior space
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post Jan 1 2013, 12:45 PM

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Polo tsi very fuel saving.
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post Jan 1 2013, 01:37 PM

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QUOTE(Alvin330000421 @ Jan 1 2013, 11:29 AM)
308 is a C-Seg car? Awfully small for a c-seg car.
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Before I buy one, I and all my family confirmed, inside its bigger than Vios....so it must be true smile.gif
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post Jan 2 2013, 12:21 AM

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QUOTE(geforce88 @ Feb 26 2011, 06:43 PM)
when u love a car, value depreciation is NOT going to be a factor to stop u from owning it....

we buy cars to drive, not to sell.....
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I agree with your point but many real life situation...
..many ppl buy car not they love but buy The car for practical i.e. FC, small car to easy move around and more importantly, affordability.

in saying that, surely they will feel RV is relevant so as they upgrade the car, the 'stepping stone' car can sell more and down payment for a better car when they upgrade their lifestyle i.e. family, promotion, ability to own a semi dream car sorta situation

that said, RV matters alot IRL unless that car you buy is you love n u sure u will keep it (myb as collection, out of production oredy, u know that car will never have replacement) and it is kinda your 'semi dream car' so you LOVE it, then of course RV is irrelevant. 1 or 2 cars before that phase you find your 'ideal' car, then of course RV is importnat to a CERTAIN EXTENT but is not a be all ends all factor though.

Say, if I like kia forte so much more than hcity and vios, do I lik it that much to ignore RV? if yes, I buy forte. IF not, then I just buy the T & H cuz I know someday I know I'll upgrade to a better car anyway. Just my opinion, but he himself will know whether the car will be sorta replaced or not.

There is no right or wrong, it's just how you 'use' it

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post Jan 2 2013, 01:12 AM

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QUOTE(cokelatpanda @ Dec 3 2012, 09:47 AM)
Obviously, go for polo. 308 will be excellent if the usage is for weekend car plus highway cruiser balik kampung car or the like.
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polo is equally competence on highway.. but too bad not so good if you hav alot of luggage during balik kampung


Added on January 2, 2013, 1:15 am
QUOTE(Rich_Lim @ Dec 31 2012, 10:41 AM)
Having the similar dilemma too, wife driving 308 VTi & it's super sluggish when goin uphill... That kinda put a doubt in me on the car evnehtough it comes with 6speed if I'm not wrong; polo instant addicted but then again.. The space is a turn off

Few of my friend owned vw having prob with the gearbox, both golf & gti not sure abt polo though. Friends' 308t having probs with gasket & engine oil leak (3of them for the record purpose)

So for TS, I can't help but me myself in the same situation as you  rclxub.gif
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all 308vti only 4 speeder.. only the 308thp from late 2010 onwards are 6 speeder..
308 is a heavy car.. 1.6NA engine quite underpower for its weight..

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post Jan 2 2013, 08:47 AM

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QUOTE(twincharger07 @ Jan 2 2013, 01:12 AM)
polo is equally competence on highway.. but too bad not so good if you hav alot of luggage during balik kampung


Added on January 2, 2013, 1:15 am

all 308vti only 4 speeder.. only the 308thp from late 2010 onwards are 6 speeder..
308 is a heavy car.. 1.6NA engine quite underpower for its weight..
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If it is the 308VTI, then yes. It is underpowered. Should not be the case for the 308THP.
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post Jan 2 2013, 09:07 AM

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I own a polo, so yea, polo back seat actually kindda cramp. It's not really a family car, so cant expect much. But loving the power of 1.2TSI engine & DSG gear. rclxms.gif
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post Jan 2 2013, 10:26 AM

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QUOTE(kenso77 @ Dec 31 2012, 06:23 PM)
Your friend seem to have a heavy foot .... but then I never really trusted digital displays much .... it could go up or down drastically depending on how the car is being driven.
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i doubt that.. she used to car pool with her.. judging from the way she drives, its me who are always pushing the pedal that does not exist on the front passenger seat... very delicate, but use to push the brake so late... sweat.gif
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post Jan 2 2013, 03:55 PM

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QUOTE(multiplexer @ Jan 2 2013, 10:26 AM)
i doubt that.. she used to car pool with her.. judging from the way she drives, its me who are always pushing the pedal that does not exist on the front passenger seat... very delicate, but use to push the brake so late...  sweat.gif
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you might want to have your friend check her car at the SC. When I had my 4 speeder, I too got around 12l/100km like the rest of the forumers here ... perhaps she's constantly stuck in traffic
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post Jan 8 2013, 10:31 AM

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Can both VW Polo and Peugeot 308 use RON95 ?
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post Jan 8 2013, 02:42 PM

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LOL, so many people here describing the cars either from hearsay or imagination.

I have a 308T and my gf drives the new Polo.

1. FACT : 308T is a C-seg hatchback and has much bigger interior legroom compared to Polo. And yes even when the front seats are all the way back, it hardly touches my 5ft 10 inch frien's knees. Polo is smaller comparatively to the 208 or Fiesta which are all B-seg cars.

2. FACT : 308T has a more powerful engine and better torque compared to Polo and on a straight line the Polo will eat 308T's exhaust.

3. FACT : Polo is more economically efficient. Urban driving FC around 11 - 12 L / 100km whilt 308 T is around 10L/km. However both cars are similar on highway which is around 15-16L / km.

4. OPINION : 308T interior looks much better than Polo which technically is a Myvi car in other countries.

VW probably just souped it up abit here because they dont want to downgrade the specs (come on R17 tires ??? where other countries are only at R15) either because government intervention or they just wanna make more money.

Don't get me wrong, I like VW just that in our automotive tax heavy country, it is not value for money when this same car can be had for only USD 15k (or less), and wants to sell as high as the next segment car or even more.

Value-wise go for Peugeot. If you just branded conscious (everything must be Gucci and such), by all means go for the Polo.

Either way you won't regret it (just need to put up with the naysayers from VW or Peugeot depending on which car u get).
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post Jan 8 2013, 05:55 PM

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QUOTE(terryfu @ Jan 8 2013, 02:42 PM)
LOL, so many people here describing the cars either from hearsay or imagination.

I have a 308T and my gf drives the new Polo.

1. FACT : 308T is a C-seg hatchback and has much bigger interior legroom compared to Polo. And yes even when the front seats are all the way back, it hardly touches my 5ft 10 inch frien's knees. Polo is smaller comparatively to the 208 or Fiesta which are all B-seg cars.

2. FACT : 308T has a more powerful engine and better torque compared to Polo and on a straight line the Polo will eat 308T's exhaust.

3. FACT : Polo is more economically efficient. Urban driving FC around 11 - 12 L / 100km whilt 308 T is around 10L/km. However both cars are similar on highway which is around 15-16L / km.

4. OPINION : 308T interior looks much better than Polo which technically is a Myvi car in other countries.

VW probably just souped it up abit here because they dont want to downgrade the specs (come on R17 tires ??? where other countries are only at R15) either because government intervention or they just wanna make more money.

Don't get me wrong, I like VW just that in our automotive tax heavy country, it is not value for money when this same car can be had for only USD 15k (or less), and wants to sell as high as the next segment car or even more.

Value-wise go for Peugeot. If you just branded conscious (everything must be Gucci and such), by all means go for the Polo.

Either way you won't regret it (just need to put up with the naysayers from VW or Peugeot depending on which car u get).
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Bro i am fine with all your facts, but i think the FC part you got it all wrong... rclxub.gif

Polo is famous for being a small powerful car that is very good in FC. 6-7L/100km should sound more right. (city/highway)

15-16L / km? or 15-16L / 100km?
Either way, it is wayyyy too absurd with this number rclxub.gif
That is like...old type big cc engines FC rate already.

308T is infamous for its FC as well...clocking 11-12L / 100km and sometimes even higher if you hit the throttle for some turbo boost.

I don't own them. Have friends who own Polo...
And FC is one of the biggest difference between these two sweat.gif

P.S: Based on the title VW Polo 1.2 i believe it is the hatchback Polo 1.2TSI right? unsure.gif

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post Jan 24 2013, 02:31 PM

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I read with some amusement on 308T comments based on hearsay. I own one.
Fact: it's a big car the shape gives it a small car impression. Park it next to a c-class, perdana or civic you'll know what I mean. Interior is spacious you can't complain for a hatch and boot space is as big as a sedan.

Fact: Not all are problematic car. Mine is already nearing 2 years no problem no warranty claim except missing door seal. Most of the problem ones are the earlier batch of 4-speeders.

Fact: It's definitely no slouch. I practically 'flew' up Genting.

Fact: Air-con is cold enough. The ventilation always defaults to open each time you start the car. It'll not be cold in hot weather if you do not manually turn it off. These Europeans think every place on Earth has clean and cool air.

Can't comment for Polo as I don't own one. But I have test drove it and the Fiesta before. The Polo interior may seem bland but material quality is good and door shuts with solid thud. Power and the dsg is very good definitely will smoke the Fiesta anytime. It also feels more solid and drives like a bigger car compared to Fiesta.

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post Jan 24 2013, 03:47 PM

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QUOTE(davidgws @ Jan 24 2013, 02:31 PM)
I read with some amusement on 308T comments based on hearsay. I own one.
Fact: it's a big car the shape gives it a small car impression. Park it next to a c-class, perdana or civic you'll know what I mean. Interior is spacious you can't complain for a hatch and boot space is as big as a sedan.

Fact: Not all are problematic car. Mine is already nearing 2 years no problem no warranty claim except missing door seal. Most of the problem ones are the earlier batch of 4-speeders.

Fact: It's definitely no slouch. I practically 'flew' up Genting.

Fact: Air-con is cold enough. The ventilation always defaults to open each time you start the car. It'll not be cold in hot weather if you do not manually turn it off. These Europeans think every place on Earth has clean and cool air.

Can't comment for Polo as I don't own one. But I have test drove it and the Fiesta before. The Polo interior may seem bland but material quality is good and door shuts with solid thud. Power and the dsg is very good definitely will smoke the Fiesta anytime. It also feels more solid and drives like a bigger car compared to Fiesta.
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Firstly i did not say i own a 308T.

Secondly, those "facts" you mentioned about 308T has nothing to do with what i commented. doh.gif

I was commenting on the infamous FC of 308T. Tell us how low is your FC if you think what i commented was wrong, not sway off to Africa posting a wall of text that is unrelated. doh.gif

If you "flew" up Genting, i guess your FC numbers "flew" as well, no? blink.gif
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QUOTE(dtna7 @ Jan 24 2013, 03:47 PM)
Firstly i did not say i own a 308T.

Secondly, those "facts" you mentioned about 308T has nothing to do with what i commented. doh.gif

I was commenting on the infamous FC of 308T. Tell us how low is your FC if you think what i commented was wrong, not sway off to Africa posting a wall of text that is unrelated. doh.gif

If you "flew" up Genting, i guess your FC numbers "flew" as well, no? blink.gif
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I don't own a 308T but I have a 3008T at home, engine and gb is the same, so i assume the FC should be similar, except 3008T is heavier la
Went to Taiping from KL last year, average speed 160++, dont bash me, no cars and its 7am in the morning.

only used a around close to half tank when i reach there, i assume, its quite fine, right?biggrin.gif
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post Jan 24 2013, 10:11 PM

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QUOTE(terryfu @ Jan 8 2013, 02:42 PM)
LOL, so many people here describing the cars either from hearsay or imagination.

I have a 308T and my gf drives the new Polo.

1. FACT : 308T is a C-seg hatchback and has much bigger interior legroom compared to Polo. And yes even when the front seats are all the way back, it hardly touches my 5ft 10 inch frien's knees. Polo is smaller comparatively to the 208 or Fiesta which are all B-seg cars.

2. FACT : 308T has a more powerful engine and better torque compared to Polo and on a straight line the Polo will eat 308T's exhaust.

3. FACT : Polo is more economically efficient. Urban driving FC around 11 - 12 L / 100km whilt 308 T is around 10L/km. However both cars are similar on highway which is around 15-16L / km.

4. OPINION : 308T interior looks much better than Polo which technically is a Myvi car in other countries.

VW probably just souped it up abit here because they dont want to downgrade the specs (come on R17 tires ??? where other countries are only at R15) either because government intervention or they just wanna make more money.

Don't get me wrong, I like VW just that in our automotive tax heavy country, it is not value for money when this same car can be had for only USD 15k (or less), and wants to sell as high as the next segment car or even more.

Value-wise go for Peugeot. If you just branded conscious (everything must be Gucci and such), by all means go for the Polo.

Either way you won't regret it (just need to put up with the naysayers from VW or Peugeot depending on which car u get).
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your FC comparison is quite confusing...
however, vw increase polo pricing by 5k is not only for the 17inch tyre.. it includes other upgrades like foglamp, central armrest, ESP and upgraded radio din..

whether polo eat 308t dust or not i kinna doubt.. on paper, 0 to 100 is almost neck to neck.. i test 308t 6speeder before, can feel abit turbo lag.. despite higher torque n hp, its heavy and using Aisin torque converter tranny..

polo lighter but few hundred kg, less turbo lag due to lower turbo inertia, n dsg tranny..

no doubt 308t is value for money, thanks to its so called ckd.. yea, like polo which is other country's myvi, pug is like proton in other country also.. biggrin.gif


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post Jan 24 2013, 10:30 PM

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308T is thirsty camel if driven start stop condition like in traffic...no need to hit turbo boost because it comes even at very low RPM...so no way of conserving fuel.

I barely touch the accelerator already can get above 2000rpm..near to 3000...

But, when the car gets going, the FC drastically improves...that's why some ppl pump in 60l CT driving mostly get 450Km...some mix or highway driving can even get 700km..so it depends where you are driving the 308T....

FACT 308T: Driving the car fast is FAR more economical than driving it slow!

For those buying 308T and expect it to be good in FC, especially in Town and Taman...you've bought the wrong car for the wrong reasons

308T was meant for spirited driving

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