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 VW Polo 1.2 VS Peugeot 308 Turbo, Please help

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SUSamon_meiz
post Apr 23 2012, 12:16 AM

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QUOTE(Glau @ Mar 19 2012, 05:46 PM)
my polo does 520km for 38 liters...not even full tank as full tank is 45liters.
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QUOTE(mugenz @ Mar 19 2012, 05:52 PM)
mine also 500km++ for full tank of 97.

Normal cruise in city. Still only 12k mileage after 8months of use. Gonna do my 1st service soon! hahahaa
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ffuu
very good fc

i got a question,might sound silly
how fiesta fare agaisnt polo?

i love fiesta,but heard lots of horror stories bout sime darby after sale service

thanks
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post Apr 23 2012, 11:59 AM

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QUOTE(amon_meiz @ Apr 23 2012, 12:16 AM)
ffuu
very good fc

i got a question,might sound silly
how fiesta fare agaisnt polo?

i love fiesta,but heard lots of horror stories bout sime darby after sale service

thanks
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before i buy my polo, i actually went to test fiesta 1st. Overall size and room size is more or less the same. Polo interior room size is more spacious abit.

In terms of solidness and quality, the polo wins.. But in terms of technology, the fiesta comes with more "gadgets" and "tech".

Interior both have its merit. Really subjective. I like polo's simple interior design.

Fiesta's exterior look really good, especially i like the white sapphire editions. But new polos nowadays comes with 17" talladega rims, front fogs and nicer audio system.

Performance, i smoked a fiesta. Really leave him hard to chase me. However, subjective.

After sales services, so far i havent done my 1st service hahahaha, its almost 10months d hahaha.. So cant comment further.

The polo really fun car to drive.. try it to believe it
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post Apr 23 2012, 03:50 PM

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QUOTE(mugenz @ Apr 23 2012, 11:59 AM)
before i buy my polo, i actually went to test fiesta 1st. Overall size and room size is more or less the same. Polo interior room size is more spacious abit.

In terms of solidness and quality, the polo wins.. But in terms of technology, the fiesta comes with more "gadgets" and "tech".

Interior both have its merit. Really subjective. I like polo's simple interior design.

Fiesta's exterior look really good, especially i like the white sapphire editions. But new polos nowadays comes with 17" talladega rims, front fogs and nicer audio system.

Performance, i smoked a fiesta. Really leave him hard to chase me. However, subjective.

After sales services, so far i havent done my 1st service hahahaha, its almost 10months d hahaha.. So cant comment further.

The polo really fun car to drive.. try it to believe it
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thank you.thank you very very much

your reply made me feel relieve that i choose to buy the more expensive polo.hopefully,i too will love my polo like u did

thanks again
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post Apr 23 2012, 04:36 PM

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QUOTE(amon_meiz @ Apr 23 2012, 03:50 PM)
thank you.thank you very very much

your reply made me feel relieve that i choose to buy the more expensive polo.hopefully,i too will love my polo like u did

thanks again
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no problem. The new spec is really better than the old spec ones.

the bigger rims really give the car more stability and control during high speed compared to my current 15" rims.

Overall, i still love this car.
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QUOTE(mugenz @ Apr 23 2012, 04:36 PM)
no problem. The new spec is really better than the old spec ones.

the bigger rims really give the car more stability and control during high speed compared to my current 15" rims.

Overall, i still love this car.
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thanks
silly question,any thought on the new coming beetle 2012?
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QUOTE(amon_meiz @ Apr 23 2012, 04:46 PM)
thanks
silly question,any thought on the new coming beetle 2012?
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IMHO the Beetle nowadays is a "women" car..if you are a guy driving it..you will get the odd stares

Also Polo and Beetle different segment class..

Its much more expensive hence value for money so so... For that kinda money I take the Golf 1.4TSI anyday and save some money for mods.


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post Apr 23 2012, 08:38 PM

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If there is one reason I wouldn't buy the 308 Turbo now, it would be because there is already a facelifted version selling everywhere else. Singapore is selling the facelifted version, and yes, it looks a lot nicer.
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QUOTE(gladfly @ Apr 23 2012, 05:20 PM)
IMHO the Beetle nowadays is a "women" car..if you are a guy driving it..you will get the odd stares

Also Polo and Beetle different segment class..

Its much more expensive hence value for money so so... For that kinda money I take the Golf 1.4TSI anyday and save some money for mods.
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i see...its that expensive eh?
i thought it priced at polo price range

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post Apr 27 2012, 05:16 PM

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i was looking for a car about 1-2 months ago, after i cancelled my booking for the elantra 1.8 premium due to the delays.

I went to try out the polo and also tried out the 308 turbo. Of course the 308 is more spacious, felt solid and pretty powerful. I felt that the aircond is not really sufficient to cool the entire cabin during a hot day. i tested the 308 turbo for quite a distance and speeding at 160kmph but the aircond is not cold enough. Maybe it was just me and the hot afternoon.

Despite the more spacious cabin, cooler looking dashboard, extra features of the 308turbo compared to the polo, i went and bought the polo sport instead. I think the polo DSG is smoother and felt better than the 308's transmission, specially at higher speed. I also felt that polo is a more fun car to drive. The polo had a simpler dashboard design than the 308 or the fiesta but when i sat inside, i felt the quality, simple yet classy.

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post Apr 27 2012, 06:10 PM

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QUOTE(ma43q @ Apr 27 2012, 05:16 PM)
i was looking for a car about 1-2 months ago, after i cancelled my booking for the elantra 1.8 premium due to the delays.

I went to try out the polo and also tried out the 308 turbo. Of course the 308 is more spacious, felt solid and pretty powerful. I felt that the aircond is not really sufficient to cool the entire cabin during a hot day. i tested the 308 turbo for quite a distance and speeding at 160kmph but the aircond is not cold enough. Maybe it was just me and the hot afternoon.

Despite the more spacious cabin, cooler looking dashboard, extra features of the 308turbo compared to the polo, i went and bought the polo sport instead. I think the polo DSG is smoother and felt better than the 308's transmission, specially at higher speed. I also felt that polo is a more fun car to drive. The polo had a simpler dashboard design than the 308 or the fiesta but when i sat inside, i felt the quality, simple yet classy.
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308T aircon if dunno how to use then its not cold smile.gif

Need to set temp all below 20, close the vents in the glove compartment too, if feel warm means the moonroof was open for quite a while.

And yes, the higher the rev you go, the aircon seems like auto off by itself. Same like most cars but 308T one is very noticeble.
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post Apr 28 2012, 07:10 AM

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azbro, the temp setting was all the way to the coolest setting. the sun roof was not open, actually was closed all the way. If aircond is not that cold in our hot weather, then there will be a problem. maybe like u said, i don't know how to use.
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post Apr 28 2012, 09:44 AM

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The aircon of 308turbo is indeed not cold enough, i have tested many cars and found this problem as well.. Cold enough for some people but definitely feels hot to me
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post Apr 28 2012, 10:14 AM

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The polo have a few Common problems like the never fixable left ward alignment and vibrating sound frm the dashboard. It's quite common among polo.

Some ppl got it fixed, some can't do nuts about it.

What I m trying to say is none is Perfect...
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post Apr 28 2012, 11:44 AM

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QUOTE(mugenz @ Apr 28 2012, 10:14 AM)
The polo have a few Common problems like the never fixable left ward alignment and vibrating sound frm the dashboard. It's quite common among polo.

Some ppl got it fixed, some can't do nuts about it.

What I m trying to say is none is Perfect...
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most european cars pull to the left. it is not a defect. it is just how those cars are engineered for the lhd market. people shouldn't fret about it and get used to it if they really want to enjoy the car. it has to do with the way the road is cambered in europe for water drainage. over here, the road is on the 'wrong' side of the road to the europeans. so, just get used to it or buy an asian car.

i totally agree too that there are no perfect cars. even cars costing half million have problems. just chill lah and have a better stress free life with your car. accept certain issues and you will live better. lower expectations and you will be happy. again, no such thing as a rattle free new car. no such thing as a new car that wont break down.

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post Apr 28 2012, 12:55 PM

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That is just all explanation given by sellers. But if lil bit leftward I couldn't be bothered. But it really bad and having this could be dangerous to drive, besides really uncomfortable in long distance driving.

There are ways to get it fixed. Some send them to real good workshop to get the alignment done perfectly. I still waiting for my tyre rotation to due then one shot do all.
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QUOTE(Bliz @ Apr 28 2012, 10:44 AM)
The aircon of 308turbo is indeed not cold enough, i have tested many cars and found this problem as well.. Cold enough for some people but definitely feels hot to me
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+1. i felt uncomfortable with the inadequate cooling effect in a hot friday afternoon. Just imagine what would happen if i'm stuck in a jam with that kind of aircond.
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308 Turbo well known for engine leaking oil, VVT mechanism off timing, short battery life, electronics/fuse box is not weather resistant, problem of losing boost pressure in the turbo unit is also a problem, plus Naza poor service.

if i were you i would go for the Polo even though its smaller.
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QUOTE(zzuhairz @ Mar 7 2012, 06:09 AM)
same dilemma, torn between the 4 chicks:

1) Focus TDCi (RM 124 393; both sedan & hatchback) [5.8l/100km claimed] [6-speed]
2) Polo (RM 113 888)  - 5 years warranty (unlimited mileage, but no free service) [5.9l/100km claimed] [7-speed DSG]
3) Polo GTI (RM 132 888 - 3 doors, RM135 888 - 5 doors) - *same as Polo  [5.9l/100km claimed] [7-speed DSG]
4) 308 Turbo (RM 118 888) - 3 YEARS FREE SERVICE INCL. PARTS & LABOR [7.6l/100km claimed] [6-speed Porsche]

usage:
travels average 80km/day; urban 80%

main concerns:
1 fuel consumption
2 maintenance cost
3 reliability (on par with vios, city; don't want like proton!!!)
4 till death do us part-type of owner *not changing car till it's time to write off; my previous car all used >9years
now... I'd really love to get the Polo GTI 3-door (a bit selfish considering I have a family, but since I'll be using it to commute alone daily to work & the 5-door model is extra 3k, I guess this should be ok ha ha!) because it's SEXY, AWESOME, SUPER-FAST! tried polo 1.2 TSI & immediately fell in love with it, read reviews on polo GTI it's more awesome (also I read somewhere the 1.4 GTI FC is better than the 1.2 TSI.. please clarify on this) thus badly wants it but it it THE MOST EXPENSIVE of them all... but again, their service is only every 15k right? thus the need for further decision-making process.

then, checked up on 308 TURBO, the specs, extras, MORE-ROOMY, the 3-years free service which included parts&labor & the 1.88% DO TEMPTS ME BAD. the salesperson kept calling for me to test drive it, says I should test it & polo, both & then decide - he seems really confident with 308 TURBO. haven't tried yet, but going to soon but now a bit busy. the downside is i there're many bad reviews on NAZA, not to mention the common saying "what do you expect, it's French, not German"  cool2.gif

finally the TDCi - it's the BIGGEST of them all, reliable & proven turbo-diesel & read about it's awesome FC etc. price also is between 308 TURBO & Polo GTI. but then, this is the oldest model in the market compared to the others.
in summary, I think my main concern returns to its FC & maintenance - which 1 should I get, & why? icon_question.gif
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1. FC - Nothng beats a diesel. These beast is made to travel. I am driving a Focus TDCi, i can step on the gas pedal like a mad man (varying from 120km/h-200km/h) and still return 600km for RM80. It can go over 1000km per tank if you can stand the insanity slow snail driving at 60km/h. Can your petrol do that, except perhaps hybrid?
2. Maintenance cost - They are all conti cars, expect higher maintenance cost than your T & H.
3. It should all be very reliable cars, maybe take some extra precaution and read up on Pug, but Polo and Focus is fine.

If you are high speed type of drivers, the 308 will probably out run the TDCi, due to petrol engine inherently high revving characteristics. Polo GTI is the fastest among the lot you listed. Was lucky enough to meet one with my TDCi in the PLUS highway. I only have one thing to say, don't play with it. Stupid crazy car.

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focus tdci is nice, i just can't tank its dated interior...
polo gti is quite a zippy pocket rocket (almost 180 hp), but the waiting period is mad long

btw isn't this a very senile thread?

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post May 7 2012, 06:24 PM

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forget about the 308 turbo. aircond not cold enough already a real turn off. polo gti has a real long waiting period. I will not be surprise if have to wait till next year.

well, the anak taukeh of the kuching VW dealership told me "polo gti is a very very dangerous car, even more dangerous than the golf GTI", which i agreed. well, i could not even order one because VW kuching stopped taking order 2 months ago. polo 1.2 acceleration is real good and unbelievable for a small engine like that and just imagine the more powerful polo gti, higher torque and more HP. crazy indeed.

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