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STDs (Sexually Transmitted Diseases), important info
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Chlamydia 18.8
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QUOTE(xsiber @ Dec 1 2014, 10:14 PM) Hey guys,did a blood test a klinik bangsar and nothing positive found.Took the RM250 package+RM30 consultation.It took only 1-2 days only to get the report back,which is pretty fast compare to other place I think.Another thing,sometimes I feel kinda itchy in my anus area,is it std or im just being paranoid?Not everyday/everytime I feel the itch tho.Have anyone experience this before? Hello bro i believe u hav took full blood test including those diabetes cholesterol urin protien plus with std test ?Any package just for STD and HiV ? Because i do blood test every year at BP lab.. standard or general blood test doesn't include those STD screening, hepatitis B screening, herpes simplex type 1 igG, herpes simplex type 2 igG and extra.. So the last test i took 2014 april at BP cost me around rm345 with the add ons below... HSV 1 IGG HSV 2 IGG PSA ANTI HIV 1&2 ANTI HAV IGG MICROALBUMIN ACR if general screening package cost rm150 means mayb the addons each will b charged 20ringgit or more... i haven't check with BP yet whether hav single STD package includes all type of STD screening hiv herpes gonorrhoea and extra... This post has been edited by GHOSTVIC: Dec 15 2014, 12:50 AM |
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Can You Get HIV from
How You Can and Cannot be infected with HIV Ever had a cold and no-one wants to go near you in case they catch it? Well, like a cold, HIV is a virus, but you can’t become infected with it in the same way. HIV is the virus that causes AIDS. For many years now, there has been a lot of publicity and education work undertaken to teach people the ways in which they might be at risk of HIV transmission. In spite of this, some of the messages have been mixed and occasionally contradictory, and there is still some confusion about what is safe and what is not. This section will clear up some of the myths. Many people are concerned about whether certain situations could result in someone becoming infected. Worries about the possibilities of infection lead to people with HIV being very isolated and sometimes resulted in prejudice and paranoia. HIV is a virus that is found in blood and other body fluids such as semen and vaginal fluids. It can’t live for long outside the body, so to be infected with HIV you need to allow some body fluid from an infected person to get inside your body. The most common ways that people become infected with HIV are: by having sexual intercourse with an infected partner by injecting drugs using a needle or syringe which has already been used by someone who is infected. HIV can be passed on in both these ways because the virus is present in the sexual fluids and blood of infected people. If infected blood or sexual fluid gets into your body, then you can become infected. You can get HIV from… Vaginal sex HIV is found in the sexual fluids of an infected person. For a man, this means in the fluids which come out of the penis before and during sex. For a woman, it means HIV is in the fluids produced by the vagina before and during sex to help make intercourse easier. If a man with HIV has vaginal intercourse without a condom, infected fluid can pass into the woman’s blood stream through a tiny cut or sore inside her body. Such a cut or sore wouldn’t always be visible, and could be so small that the woman wouldn’t know about it. If a woman with HIV has sexual intercourse without a condom, HIV could get into the man’s blood through a sore patch on his penis or by getting into the tube that runs down the penis. If there is any contact with blood during sex, this increases the risk of infection. For example, there may be blood in the vagina if intercourse occurs during a woman’s period. Oral sex Oral sex with an infected partner does carry some risk of infection. If a person sucks on the penis of an infected man, for example, infected fluid could get into the mouth. The virus could then get into the blood if you have bleeding gums or tiny sores or ulcers somewhere in the mouth. The same is true if infected sexual fluids from a woman get into the mouth of her partner. But infection from oral sex alone seems to be very rare, and there are things you can do to protect yourself. Anal sex If a couple have anal intercourse the risk of infection is greater than with vaginal intercourse. The lining of the anus is more delicate than the lining of the vagina, so it’s more likely to be damaged during intercourse, and any contact with blood during sex increases the risk of infection. Injecting drugs Read more aboutInjecting Drug Use and HIV There is a good likelihood of becoming infected with HIV if you share injecting equipment with someone who has the virus. The virus can be passed by sharing needles, syringes, spoons, filters and water. Disinfecting equipment between use can reduce the chance of transmission, but doesn’t eliminate it. Blood transfusions Some people have been infected through a transfusion of infected blood. These days, in most countries all the blood used for transfusions is now tested for HIV. In those countries where the blood has been tested, HIV infection through blood transfusions is now extremely rare. Blood products Blood products, such as those used by people with Haemophilia, are now heat-treated to make them safe. Mother to child transmission Read more about Prevention of vertical transmission An infected pregnant woman can pass the virus on to her unborn baby either before or during birth. HIV can also be passed on during breastfeeding. If a woman knows that she is infected with HIV, there are drugs that she can take to greatly reduce the chances of her child becoming infected. Infection in the health-care setting Read more about HIV prevention in medical settings Some health-care workers have become infected with HIV by being stuck with needles containing HIV-infected blood. A very few have become infected by HIV-infected blood getting into the health-care worker’s bloodstream through an open cut or splashes into a mucous membrane (e.g. eyes or the inside of the nose). There have only been a few documented instances of patients becoming infected by a health-care worker. Tattoos / piercings Anything which allows another person’s body fluids to get inside your body is risky. If the equipment is not sterile, having a tattoo done could carry a very small risk. If you are thinking of having a tattoo or piercing, ask staff at the shop what procedures they take to avoid infection. You can’t get AIDS from… Kissing At the moment, scientific opinion is pretty clear that you cannot become infected with HIV through kissing. To become infected with HIV you must get a sufficient quantity of HIV into the bloodstream. Saliva does contain HIV, but the virus is only present in very small quantities and as such, cannot cause HIV infection. Unless both partners have large open sores in their mouths, or severely bleeding gums, there is no transmission risk from mouth-to-mouth kissing. Sneezing, coughing, sharing glasses/cups, etc HIV is unable to reproduce outside its living host, except under very extreme laboratory conditions. HIV does not survive well in the open air, and this makes the possibility of this type of environmental transmission remote. In practice no environmental transmission has been seen. This means that HIV cannot be transmitted through spitting, sneezing, sharing glasses or musical instruments. You also can’t be infected in swimming pools, showers or by sharing washing machines or toilet seats. Insects Studies conducted by many researchers have shown no evidence of HIV transmission through insects, even in areas where there are many cases of AIDS and large populations of insects such as mosquitoes. Lack of such outbreaks, despite considerable efforts to detect them, supports the conclusion that HIV is not transmitted by insects. Also, HIV only lives for a short time and does not reproduce in an insect. So, even if the virus enters a mosquito or another sucking or biting insect, the insect does not become infected and therefore cannot transmit HIV to the next human it feeds on or bites. Injecting with sterile needles Drug use with sterile works will not transmit HIV either, as long as clean works are used every time – this means needle, syringe and spoon, water and filters. There are still many other risks associated with injecting drug use. And, if you are on drugs, even alcohol, this may cloud your judgment and make you more likely to become involved in risky sexual behaviour – it’s harder to make the effort to use a condom when you’re off your head. Protected sex Read more about Male condoms and Female condoms Condoms, if used correctly and consistently, are highly effective at preventing HIV transmission. There are myths saying that "some very small viruses can pass through latex" – this is not true. Anal sex is not necessarily a risk if unbroken condoms are used and there is no blood-to-blood contact. You can’t "create" HIV by having anal sex. |
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QUOTE(GHOSTVIC @ Dec 15 2014, 12:47 AM) Hello bro i believe u hav took full blood test including those diabetes cholesterol urin protien plus with std test ? No bro,this is a STD clinic.They dont check for your cholesterol,diabetes or any of those.Cant really remember what was the package I took,but it was RM250+RM30(consultation) for HIV,syphilis,chlyamdia and hepapatits iinm.Any package just for STD and HiV ? Because i do blood test every year at BP lab.. standard or general blood test doesn't include those STD screening, hepatitis B screening, herpes simplex type 1 igG, herpes simplex type 2 igG and extra.. So the last test i took 2014 april at BP cost me around rm345 with the add ons below... HSV 1 IGG HSV 2 IGG PSA ANTI HIV 1&2 ANTI HAV IGG MICROALBUMIN ACR if general screening package cost rm150 means mayb the addons each will b charged 20ringgit or more... i haven't check with BP yet whether hav single STD package includes all type of STD screening hiv herpes gonorrhoea and extra... |
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Dec 18 2014, 11:48 PM
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Hi guyz, i'm wondering what clinic can i visit for STD test in KL area? How about the price? Does STD test includes HIV test?
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Jan 2 2015, 12:03 AM
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Hi, anyone has a similar case to mine? 3 days back I started to have this slight pain just under the penis head and now this part is reddish. It hurts if you touch it even slightly and it seems to be discharging (not much but can see the shaft is slightly wet) something. Also, if smells once I pull back the foreskin. I have cleaned it with water but after some time it smells again probably because of the discharge.
Anyone thinks this is some kind of STD? Worried now and stressed. Any help would be much appreciated !! |
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Jan 12 2015, 11:44 PM
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QUOTE(xsiber @ Dec 16 2014, 03:36 AM) No bro,this is a STD clinic.They dont check for your cholesterol,diabetes or any of those.Cant really remember what was the package I took,but it was RM250+RM30(consultation) for HIV,syphilis,chlyamdia and hepapatits iinm. I can't believe this is so expensive in Malaysia and at the same time, gets barely any government support / initiatives (for obvious cultural reasons). In the UK, STD testing is completely free (and anonymous) for good and realistic reasons. I wonder if our country will ever get to that point in our lifetime.. |
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Jan 13 2015, 12:21 AM
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Gonorrhea & Chlamydia
=============== Gonorrhea (symptom = pain during urination at penis forehead / woman's genital, and has stink greenish or yellowish discharge) and Chlamydia (symptom = extremely itchy feeling at whole penis / woman's genital) can be cured with simple antibiotic medication. No worry.... But don't leave it untreated as it might cause internal inflammation to both guys & girls and leads to infertility. Herpes type 1 & 2, HPV (Human Papilloma Virus) =============================== Herpes type 1 & 2, HPV outbreak symptoms (Herpes type 1 = sores at mouth, Herpes type 2 = sore at genital parts, HPV = genital warts) are quite persistent at beginning, most people will feel depressed for sure to see the sore / warts growing at your private part, lolz... However once the outbreak symptoms go off after some times (up to 6 months for some ppl), then our own body will build up the immunity for these viruses. No worries too... However for ladies, need to go pap smear test once a year to ensure HPV virus won't cause cervix cancer (low chance anyway). Skin doctor can help to remove if you have genital warts. No worries... My friend had it once and he washed with Listerin mouth wash quite frequently, after some time the warts fell off and gone... but this is not a formal treatment so better go seek skin doctor treatment. They use laser or freezing methods to remove the genital warts. This is the quickest way. HPV might also cause mouth/throat cancer through oral sex (chances = ??? unknown). Once the HPV or Herpes viruses stay in your body, it will be forever. It can spread to your existing/next sex partner easily. But no worries... through the thousand years human evolution, our human body already can "control/contain" these viruses easily. When you do blood test, it always will show HPV or Herpes reading, but it won't do much harm our body anyway. For ladies they still can give birth to a healthy baby without problem. Syphilis ===== Syphilis (symptoms = fever, aches, weight loss, hair loss, aching joints, or lesions (sores) in the mouth or genital area) can be cured at beginning stage. No worries too. Just don't wait for too long. Seek doctor treatment ASAP. Otherwise it become incurable. AIDS (HIV) ======= The only worry is AIDS (HIV) lor... AIDS is incurable but you can live another 5 - 20 years with medication. Hepatitis A, B, C =========== For Hepatitis A (HAV), B (HBV), C (HCV), are easily spread through sex intercourse. So make sure you have the antibody for it. Just go to any clinic to take the Hepatitis A+B+C combined vaccine then you are safe forever. Hepatitis A & C are 100% curable nowadays. Hepatitis B is incurable. But you can almost live until old age (>60 years old) with Hepatitis B in your body. Just take care you liver properly. DON'T BE SHY AND SEEK TREATMENT EARLY. DON'T BE SCARED TO DEATH. I hope my explanation clears you all doubts. Simple right? Cheers... This post has been edited by cloud9_lee: Jan 13 2015, 12:59 AM |
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Jan 13 2015, 08:16 AM
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QUOTE(hustlerism @ Dec 18 2014, 11:48 PM) Hi guyz, i'm wondering what clinic can i visit for STD test in KL area? How about the price? Does STD test includes HIV test? The most famous & i think the best one so far we reserched is klinik bangsar south. They got std specialist n keep charges low& damn fast results like 24 hrs later emailed the results. Sometimes very full & got to wait. I didnt wait long as i made an appointment via emailing them ( klinikbangsarsouth@gmail.com) but when i brought my parner the mext time, we didnt make apointment and had to wait for coz lots of also other worried people checking stds!The doctor appologised for the crowd & having to wait , so not too bad.tests dont take long tho. What ive learned , if you enter a new relashionship better check so u know that both parties are clean n nothing to worry about as usually people in a monogomous relashionship dont really use condoms unless worried about pregnancy.& hope n prayvur man doesnt wander outside to avoid getting anythg, if u know what i mean. Men, if uve been naughty, pls avoid sleeping with your wives just yet, get tested & treated for stds , only when ure clean ( no more infections), only then go back to sleeping with ur wives/ gfs. Just my two cents advice!! |
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What about PEP treament to prevent getting HIV after an exposure esp with sex worker. Anyone know where to go got PEP treatment? Hospital or clinic? Ive checked online & cant seem to find where they offer this in kl.amyone has any experience with this n kniw where to go n how much it costs? QUOTE(GHOSTVIC @ Dec 15 2014, 01:27 AM) Can You Get HIV from How You Can and Cannot be infected with HIV Ever had a cold and no-one wants to go near you in case they catch it? Well, like a cold, HIV is a virus, but you can’t become infected with it in the same way. HIV is the virus that causes AIDS. For many years now, there has been a lot of publicity and education work undertaken to teach people the ways in which they might be at risk of HIV transmission. In spite of this, some of the messages have been mixed and occasionally contradictory,i and there is still some confusion about what is safe and what is not. This section will clear up some of the myths. Many people are concerned about whether certain situations could result in someone becoming infected. Worries about the possibilities of infection lead to people with HIV being very isolated and sometimes resulted in prejudice and paranoia. HIV is a virus that is found in blood and other body fluids such as semen and vaginal fluids. It can’t live for long outside the body, so to be infected with HIV you need to allow some body fluid from an infected person to get inside your body. The most common ways that people become infected with HIV are: by having sexual intercourse with an infected partner by injecting drugs using a needle or syringe which has already been used by someone who is infected. HIV can be passed on in both these ways because the virus is present in the sexual fluids and blood of infected people. If infected blood or sexual fluid gets into your body, then you can become infected. You can get HIV from… Vaginal sex HIV is found in the sexual fluids of an infected person. For a man, this means in the fluids which come out of the penis before and during sex. For a woman, it means HIV is in the fluids produced by the vagina before and during sex to help make intercourse easier. If a man with HIV has vaginal intercourse without a condom, infected fluid can pass into the woman’s blood stream through a tiny cut or sore inside her body. Such a cut or sore wouldn’t always be visible, and could be so small that the woman wouldn’t know about it. If a woman with HIV has sexual intercourse without a condom, HIV could get into the man’s blood through a sore patch on his penis or by getting into the tube that runs down the penis. If there is any contact with blood during sex, this increases the risk of infection. For example, there may be blood in the vagina if intercourse occurs during a woman’s period. Oral sex Oral sex with an infected partner does carry some risk of infection. If a person sucks on the penis of an infected man, for example, infected fluid could get into the mouth. The virus could then get into the blood if you have bleeding gums or tiny sores or ulcers somewhere in the mouth. The same is true if infected sexual fluids from a woman get into the mouth of her partner. But infection from oral sex alone seems to be very rare, and there are things you can do to protect yourself. Anal sex If a couple have anal intercourse the risk of infection is greater than with vaginal intercourse. The lining of the anus is more delicate than the lining of the vagina, so it’s more likely to be damaged during intercourse, and any contact with blood during sex increases the risk of infection. Injecting drugs Read more aboutInjecting Drug Use and HIV There is a good likelihood of becoming infected with HIV if you share injecting equipment with someone who has the virus. The virus can be passed by sharing needles, syringes, spoons, filters and water. Disinfecting equipment between use can reduce the chance of transmission, but doesn’t eliminate it. Blood transfusions Some people have been infected through a transfusion of infected blood. These days, in most countries all the blood used for transfusions is now tested for HIV. In those countries where the blood has been tested, HIV infection through blood transfusions is now extremely rare. Blood products Blood products, such as those used by people with Haemophilia, are now heat-treated to make them safe. Mother to child transmission Read more about Prevention of vertical transmission An infected pregnant woman can pass the virus on to her unborn baby either before or during birth. HIV can also be passed on during breastfeeding. If a woman knows that she is infected with HIV, there are drugs that she can take to greatly reduce the chances of her child becoming infected. Infection in the health-care setting Read more about HIV prevention in medical settings Some health-care workers have become infected with HIV by being stuck with needles containing HIV-infected blood. A very few have become infected by HIV-infected blood getting into the health-care worker’s bloodstream through an open cut or splashes into a mucous membrane (e.g. eyes or the inside of the nose). There have only been a few documented instances of patients becoming infected by a health-care worker. Tattoos / piercings Anything which allows another person’s body fluids to get inside your body is risky. If the equipment is not sterile, having a tattoo done could carry a very small risk. If you are thinking of having a tattoo or piercing, ask staff at the shop what procedures they take to avoid infection. You can’t get AIDS from… Kissing At the moment, scientific opinion is pretty clear that you cannot become infected with HIV through kissing. To become infected with HIV you must get a sufficient quantity of HIV into the bloodstream. Saliva does contain HIV, but the virus is only present in very small quantities and as such, cannot cause HIV infection. Unless both partners have large open sores in their mouths, or severely bleeding gums, there is no transmission risk from mouth-to-mouth kissing. Sneezing, coughing, sharing glasses/cups, etc HIV is unable to reproduce outside its living host, except under very extreme laboratory conditions. HIV does not survive well in the open air, and this makes the possibility of this type of environmental transmission remote. In practice no environmental transmission has been seen. This means that HIV cannot be transmitted through spitting, sneezing, sharing glasses or musical instruments. You also can’t be infected in swimming pools, showers or by sharing washing machines or toilet seats. Insects Studies conducted by many researchers have shown no evidence of HIV transmission through insects, even in areas where there are many cases of AIDS and large populations of insects such as mosquitoes. Lack of such outbreaks, despite considerable efforts to detect them, supports the conclusion that HIV is not transmitted by insects. Also, HIV only lives for a short time and does not reproduce in an insect. So, even if the virus enters a mosquito or another sucking or biting insect, the insect does not become infected and therefore cannot transmit HIV to the next human it feeds on or bites. Injecting with sterile needles Drug use with sterile works will not transmit HIV either, as long as clean works are used every time – this means needle, syringe and spoon, water and filters. There are still many other risks associated with injecting drug use. And, if you are on drugs, even alcohol, this may cloud your judgment and make you more likely to become involved in risky sexual behaviour – it’s harder to make the effort to use a condom when you’re off your head. Protected sex Read more about Male condoms and Female condoms Condoms, if used correctly and consistently, are highly effective at preventing HIV transmission. There are myths saying that "some very small viruses can pass through latex" – this is not true. Anal sex is not necessarily a risk if unbroken condoms are used and there is no blood-to-blood contact. You can’t "create" HIV by having anal sex. |
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Jan 13 2015, 09:19 AM
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QUOTE(Mandy1970 @ Jan 13 2015, 08:22 AM) What about PEP treament to prevent getting HIV after an exposure esp with sex worker. Anyone know where to go got PEP treatment? Hospital or clinic? Ive checked online & cant seem to find where they offer this in kl.amyone has any experience with this n kniw where to go n how much it costs? From what ive reserched & asked around, PEP treament to prevent HIV is given withon 72 hours of an exposure for 1 month.Seems to be info only available in singapore. What sbout in malaysia esp KL? Anyone have any idea on this?? Thanks |
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Few months ago i got a fungus infection. Then i had sex with my gf. I think the fungus spreads to her. The water that came out from her vagina smells like dead fish. Usually this is the sign of infection. She went to a normal clinic and the doc gives her anti-fungal medicine that u need to put inside the vagina. Usually, this is easily to cure. But until now the smell is still there. Can someone detect whats the problem?
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QUOTE(WaCKy-Angel @ Jun 4 2006, 01:25 AM) Yes... But if do mastubate b4 marriage then fapp after married, what is the consequences(HIV/AIDS, Gonorrhea etc.).. From I know, masturbate is bad for brains..I do that frequently. so I felt like stupid cow...MOOOOThis post has been edited by ZR46: Feb 12 2015, 08:25 AM |
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You can purchase STD's Test Online at Aileenwo.com
We have HIV Test, Syphilis Test as well as Gonorrhea Test Test at comfort from your home. This post has been edited by Aileenwo: Feb 14 2015, 06:03 PM |
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QUOTE(hustlerism @ Jan 13 2015, 08:26 PM) Few months ago i got a fungus infection. Then i had sex with my gf. I think the fungus spreads to her. The water that came out from her vagina smells like dead fish. Usually this is the sign of infection. She went to a normal clinic and the doc gives her anti-fungal medicine that u need to put inside the vagina. Usually, this is easily to cure. But until now the smell is still there. Can someone detect whats the problem? It's better to do the STD screening. Maybe she's infected with Chlamydia or BV or gonorrhea. |
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Hi all, decided to go for my std test at klinik bangsar south.
here's part of the details that they gave me when I enquired » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « After the blood test, I started to have some doubt. Cause the Dr took only took my blood for the STD test. As far as I recalled, for chlamydia there isn't any blood test for it. As the bacteria isn't found in the blood stream. Cervical screening tests (smear tests) and routine blood tests do not detect chlamydia. You will need to tell the doctor or nurse if you would also like to be tested for chlamydia at the same time. http://www.nhs.uk/Conditions/Chlamydia/Pages/Diagnosis.aspx Asked her, chlamydia can be diagnose with blood alone? She said yes. So, this is just something to be noted. This post has been edited by lopo90: Mar 24 2015, 04:41 PM |
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QUOTE(lopo90 @ Mar 24 2015, 04:40 PM) Hi all, decided to go for my std test at klinik bangsar south. Yeah just realised that they only took blood test only after you mentioned.here's part of the details that they gave me when I enquired » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « After the blood test, I started to have some doubt. Cause the Dr took only took my blood for the STD test. As far as I recalled, for chlamydia there isn't any blood test for it. As the bacteria isn't found in the blood stream. Cervical screening tests (smear tests) and routine blood tests do not detect chlamydia. You will need to tell the doctor or nurse if you would also like to be tested for chlamydia at the same time. http://www.nhs.uk/Conditions/Chlamydia/Pages/Diagnosis.aspx Asked her, chlamydia can be diagnose with blood alone? She said yes. So, this is just something to be noted. Anyone else went there and they only took your blood test only? |
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