...."Another favourite sector is the information and communications technology (ICT) given the continuing growth in the segment following the rapid development in new communication gadgets, which will also help boost the electrical and electronics sector".....  

http://www.btimes.com.my/Current_News/BTIM...142128/Article/

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Added on February 27, 2011, 2:32 am........"foreign funds were still around and the longer-term outlook was still bullish for local stocks. Affin Investment Bank - the drop in local market offered investors a chance to accumulate and buy cheap, noting that longer-term outlook remained bullish....."
http://www.btimes.com.my/Current_News/BTIM...110633/Article/

I think Buffett look at all of those. The differences between ROI, ROIC verus ROE stems from the type of return there are measuring. For ROI and ROIC, it incorporates both debt financing (e.g. banks and bond holders) and equity financing (e.g. stock holders like us), so it measures the total return of company in utilizing both type of financing. For ROE, it measures the return on equity financing only. The problem with ROE may be that, since it disregard debt financing, companies may generate extraordinary ROE by taking a lot of leverage. So, ROIC may be a better measure if companies employs a lot of leverage. Take the private equity firm Blackstone as an example, their ROE is impressive but if you look at the leverage, then it is a bit scary. Even Olam, the Singapore-based commodities trader, my school professor like them a lot and use it as a case study of good companies, I tell my prof that this company is doing crazy stuff and if things goes bad, can easily collapse. If you look at their leverage and what they are trying to do, you will understand why I say so. Or back to Malaysia, we look at Parkson, their ROE is pretty decent, above 20+% if I am not mistaken, but, if you look carefully, a lot of their assets is not stated on the balance sheet through the use of operating leases, so their ROE is actually overstated. If you bring those things back to balance sheet, their ROE is still very high, but it is achieve through the use of leverage rather than via operations.

So, at times, ROE may not give a good measure of a business if there is a lot of leverage. Using ROIC and ROI will allow users to easily compare across industry as it is not affected by their financing decision (e.g. how much debt a company holds). A Chinaman company with a lot of cash may looks bad when compared to a modern firm using some advanced but questionable theory like optimal capital structure. But, when compare based on ROIC and ROI, this Chinaman company may be better than all these so-called modern firms. This Chinaman company survive better during a crisis too. If Genting Malaysia were to leverage its balance sheet crazily like what Las Vegas Sands did, GENM would have one of the most impressive ROE in the world. At the peak before the crisis, it took LVS $7 dollars of debt to generate $1 dollars of revenue. LVS runs into trouble during crisis, but, they manage to take care of their debt. They could easily went bankrupt if not for their wealthy majority owner pump money into the company. But, that's was history, people already forgotten about that. Those who bought at the depth of the crisis would have made 20x their money buying LVS, but, hindsight is always 20/20.

  Abit out of Topic from you guyz,

Did anyone look at Kulim's latest Q report.... the figure suddenly become so so so tiny....

Soon Governments all over the world would want to learn from Confucius.

Then Investing would be more fruitful as resources are put into greater use for the people all over the world.

Should be a cheer for long term investors.

Sori, for being OT.

Just my thought only.

Oman clashes: Two killed during protests in Gulf state
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-12590588
Two people have been reported killed in clashes between security forces and protesters in the Gulf state of Oman.
Hundreds of people had gathered for a second day of protests calling for political reforms, in the industrial city of Sohar.

Thanks a lot for your easy and readable explanations in English, unlike many pros who wrote in Alien language. 

I'm still feeling pitiful on those cash cow red chips listed in Bursa which are still pricing in extremely undemanding valuation. I've sold my long holding msports last year, gave up waiting. Look at its price today, still the same. However, I bought sozo this year and I had took profit in its recent rally since I can't expect any good profit report to maintain its share price for red chip companies. One day, it may drop 50% in no reason.

btw, you are right. Genting is really a Chinaman company, imagine it only gives less than 1% dividend along with superb profit growth! Anyway, I hope it may increase it after its aggressive growing story comes to a resting stage, which probably...5-8 years later? 

The problem with red chips is that, there is a perception problem. I can't fault the investors for thinking so, in fact, now I am a bit worried about Red Chips myself after I talk to some people who have been to China and audited the accounts and stuff. Now trying to look really carefully at their accounts of proven fraud in Singapore and HK to see whether there are any similarities among them.

It is sometimes a bit hard for auditors to catch them because their method is a bit sophisticated at times. Plus, for Red Chips in Msia and Singapore case, it is generally audited by Singapore auditor or HK auditor. Now, for Singapore auditor, I am a bit worried, cause most of these guys are inexperience plus the command of mandarin among Singaporean is not that good. You stick them to China in a completely unknown environment, it is hard to pick up any funny stuff. Some of the fraud happen because the company manage to fake the cash balance by using short term loans into their account because they know the bank managers.

For those who are interested, there is this famous letter rumoured to be written by a fraudulent s-chip CEO on how they fooled the investors: Confessions of a S-Chip CEO

Wow! You mean even Singapore auditor is not so good? I just know that many like to buy US shares simply because they think US market provides them much more transparency on a company's account. They have no confidence on Malaysia's audition, they called it a "black box".

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Added on February 27, 2011, 9:39 pmAnyone know if Kenny Rogers has their own chicken farm such as KFC? 

Yup. In fact, I will probably end up as one of them lol. Auditors are generally not that smart, the whole profession is overated. Malaysia and Singapore sama-sama saja. Singaporean are not that superior to Malaysian, it is just that they have a good government that are not corrupt.

US is very transparent. There is a reason why US stocks can sell for 15x PE and it is still considered cheap, it is because of their transparency. Even smaller companies have conference call and you can hear them. Management cannot disclose insider info to analyst. If want disclose, need to disclose to everyone, so insider trading is less. People see US like got a lot of problems with their company, a lot of fraudulent company. But, there are probably less than ten a year and most of them happen in the micro cap space i.e market cap less than USD100mil. But, if we take into account that US has 40000 listed companies, 10 companies blow up every year do not seems to be that much compared to Bursa who have a few hundreds company and probably we have one blow up every year. It is just that in US, things tend to get exagerated by the media. In Malaysia, the media tend to treat fraud less seriously. Probably also due to lack of good journalist that understand these frauds and can write a good story.

As far as I know ( a little bit ) , the social problem issue  of Arabs  is not something new at all.

Confucius ( born in BC ) , talked much more about the Social Responsibility and Corporate Governance   of China Govts a long time ago. But most China Govts do not like him ( sidelined ). Branded as Pro People for a prosperous China.

Though still the world knows very little about him, the evolutions of the internet and Facebook and so on did  in fact bring out the important messages of Confucius ( speeding up the processes )

Soon Governments all over the world would want to learn from Confucius.

Then Investing would be more fruitful as resources are put into greater use for the people all over the world.

Should be a cheer for long term investors.

Sori, for being OT.

Just my thought only.

Couldn't find any info on their prospectus. Anyway I dun have any confidence on KRRoasters. What is your POV on BJFood?

So what we have for tomolo ? KLCI surging or hibernating ?

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Added on February 27, 2011, 10:44 pm

Stocks to watch: TM, CIMB, MAS, Proton, AZRB, Faber
http://www.theedgemalaysia.com/business/18...azrb-faber.html

Is this still relevant ?

http://biz.thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?s...usiness/6972547

No offend but kind like funny tho 

Is this still relevant ?

http://biz.thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?s...usiness/6972547