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Financial Are property prices going to drop? V2, The heated debate continues

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TheDoer
post Mar 4 2011, 01:25 PM

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QUOTE(dripinrain @ Mar 4 2011, 12:04 PM)
This is the 1st time i'm in this thread, i duno why i even missed this sticky topic.

Seriously, are u all waiting for a property drop ?
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Either wait for it to drop or increase still the same, cannot afford now.

But, indications do seem to point that it will drop in the coming year or so.
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post Mar 4 2011, 01:59 PM

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True.

but my question to the speculators is, how they expect the price to increase without considering new comer's pay?

Where the increase coming from? Simply from more speculation then.
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post Mar 7 2011, 10:29 AM

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QUOTE(CKHong @ Mar 7 2011, 10:02 AM)
hmm.. then maybe u can decide to wait..
just tat if it never drop.. then dun blame us yea..
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Yep, I have also always said, if it's for your own stay and you can afford it, go ahead too.

well, but if anyone bought it for "investment" and the price does drop, you know who to blame.

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BBBBBBBB!!!
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post Mar 7 2011, 01:26 PM

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QUOTE(dripinrain @ Mar 7 2011, 01:06 PM)
Buffett says .. “A house can be a nightmare if the buyer’s eyes are bigger than his wallet and if a lender -- often protected by a government guarantee -- facilitates his fantasy,” Buffett wrote. “Our country’s social goal should not be to put families into the house of their dreams, but rather to put them into a house they can afford.”
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I think buffett's last phrase needs to be refined.

It's one thing to put families into the house of their dreams, it is another to put speculators into the investment of their dreams. $.$
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post Mar 7 2011, 01:39 PM

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QUOTE(totila @ Mar 7 2011, 01:30 PM)
why nobody ask who are the buyers that cause the "hot market" now ?
do u guys really think is malaysians themselves mock up the market price? or actually the BIG BIG percentage of buyers  are foreigners? The malaysia policy doesn't protect their own people. there is no limited for foreigners to own malaysia's property. we have a "clever" government, who neglect our malaysian income and ability. now a 700psf+ can cost 300k++ ?? siao eh!!!
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You know we have this funny way of looking at the economy. We are engrossed with making it pick up, without considering what we put into it.

Sometimes it's nothing but hot air. An economy expanded with hot air eventually pops.


I'm going to open a new thread for this.
http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?act=ST&f=153&t=1781776

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post Mar 8 2011, 02:04 PM

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QUOTE(jib3000 @ Mar 8 2011, 01:17 PM)
SRR mean Statutory Researve Requirement - to control liquidity and credit in the market .. current SRR is 1% .. normal time is around 3-4 %... increase in SRR by 1% will reduce liquidity in the market by 7 to 8 Billion RM...

one of the tool of central bank to control inflation and other stuff...

Reference:

http://biz.thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?f...1&if_height=494
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OOT. This will reduce the money supply. But will it really reduce inflation?

I mean, even if cash is hard to come by, and the mamak, uses the same excuse that sugar naik, and increase his prices, and every other sectors followed. Then it would appear that inflation isn't effected, instead the lack money in the system will cause bank negara to print more money or reduce the SRR again?

I donno. Just asking.
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post Mar 9 2011, 12:50 AM

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QUOTE(cherroy @ Mar 8 2011, 09:55 PM)
Only for price between Rm100K to RM220k
Little on overall, except properties below Rm220k may be snapped up by speculators.   tongue.gif
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Just great. shocking.gif

Now even the "aim lower" houses are going up.

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QUOTE(CKHong @ Mar 10 2011, 04:06 PM)
LOL... 200% household debt..
maybe by that time.. there will be another thread
title is " what is the best way to suicide "
20% of malaysian population straight decrease..
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hahaha rclxms.gif


True.
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post Mar 11 2011, 01:27 PM

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If there is a 2nd gen, what's to stop there being a 3rd gen loan? when will it stop?

Our money is going to turn into monopoly money. You sell the house for 2 generation worth of money, and buy another for 3 generations worth. You then sell it for 4 generations, and buy another for 5 generations. Lol... seems like the number of zeros will become worthless.
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QUOTE(cherroy @ Mar 11 2011, 01:37 PM)
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First step to help the poor, introduce RPGT.
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Yes yes yes... let's fight for RPGT.
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post Mar 15 2011, 01:52 PM

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QUOTE(CKHong @ Mar 15 2011, 09:19 AM)
i hope all rich ppl go buy millions worth of house..
at least those rich one won't rebut those cheap house with me this poor ppl..
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Agree rclxms.gif

They can all go ahead and buy the speculated areas, just don't start speculating on the medium cost homes.


Added on March 15, 2011, 2:00 pmNotes from Melaka: Previously there was all the hu ha about price hike. and houses all sold out.

Recently I saw in the megazines, there are some more unsold units from the projects I went to see half a year ago. lol.

Is this a sign of the lack of demand?

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QUOTE(lucerne @ Mar 15 2011, 03:45 PM)
Many big deelopers with good holding power will keep many units/floors for themself (eg better view) and release when the price is higher. in Melaka case, pls advise if the unsold units selling at old price or higer price??  if it is still at same price, then something wrong and alarming..

but in KL case, most of the reserved units are selling at higher prices.
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It's roughly the same price, I think. Can't remember it's been so long, I've thrown away the brochures. hmm.gif

But compared to a recent hot project which was "Sold out". The price is much lower.

All projects are in the outskirts of town. But they are in different areas, so this needs to be taken into account too. hmm.gif

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post Mar 17 2011, 08:47 AM

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100% loan, multiple generation loans, credit card application that doesn't require documents to prove your eligibility.

These all makes a mockery of our monetary system, not enough money? price of things increased by an extra 0? Borrow more lah.

These are what cause bubbles in our economy.

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QUOTE(totila @ Mar 17 2011, 01:05 PM)
i wonder where is all the money gone if this happen... ?? developer? goverment? or both?
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In a bubble, nobody really wins. We are just using hot air to buy things.

But yes, obviously the developers and spculators would have pocketed quite alot before the crash.

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QUOTE(cybermaster98 @ Mar 21 2011, 07:57 AM)
Again another report by an investor hoping to raise prices of his investment by instilling fear into people and thus pushing them to buy now. We all should start being smarter than them and be more selective in what we read. Ppl like George Soros made money from ppl like us.
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Goreng, is another word for gambling. If you want to gamble, go to Genting.
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There should be a Malaysian first, rule with property. Can you imagine what a sad country this will be if, all our props were bought over, and malaysians had to rent from them.

They should be charged with their currency not ours.
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QUOTE(kochin @ Mar 21 2011, 03:02 PM)
if buyers from indonesia, how?
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Their currency if their money is bigger.

Thanks for the correction.


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QUOTE(kochin @ Mar 22 2011, 09:32 AM)
you just made my day! +1
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He made your day by making a mock forecast? Why? are you worried that the bubble might indeed burst? If you don't like to hear us complaining, why do you come in here?

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QUOTE(UFO-ET @ Mar 22 2011, 09:25 AM)
13/7/2011
A : Jialat, price up 20% again!! too high aleli, I can afford to rent a house only..mm..m cry.gif
B : property price will keep going up due to...
C : let me show you this chart, everywhere burst aleli...sure burst one, price will never go up one..
13/7/2012
A : .......
B : property price will keep going up due to...
C : one day I will prove to you that I am right... vmad.gif
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I can accept if you said last 2 years the bubble didn't burst.

But what you didn't realise is your forecast is as grim, as if there was an economy crisis.

Let's say you are right and everybody can only afford to rent, this will mean that the cost of living has gone up. The next generation can't afford to buy new props, unless they are extremely resourceful, or come from rich families, because props have become "scarce".

Is this really what you guys want?


Added on March 22, 2011, 1:40 pm
QUOTE(kochin @ Mar 22 2011, 11:48 AM)
you mean you come in here because you like to listen to people complaining? rclxub.gif
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Come in here checking out whether props will drop. Because that's the only hope for us. That's what this thread is about isn't it?

You're so sure that props won't drop, and if you feel irritated by our comments, why do you come here? Simply to mock the poor?

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