Yes Christ come already. Died on the cross for our sin. Sent the Holy Spirit  for us with the  10 commandments and law in it.

You're spreading Heresy brother.

No such thing in the New Testament.

I have problem with this.
I think you learnt something from a bad source... a very bad source.

10 commandments is not for us anymore.

I have problem with this.
I think you learnt something from a bad source... a very bad source.

Good morning peps, thank lord I had a bad day. Yesterday 90% of my wife blog picture accidentally deleted from android phone with the scyn online function with a single touch! "HOLD & Confirm YES" What a good technology of today we got! No way to recover it online. So I have to accept the truth.

Would likes to share how I feel today, its truly hard for me to accept this truth becoz my wife was really sad for losing all these years memories picture from the blog. When she felt sad I will felt the same here.

Sad feeling had slowly wipe out from my mind this morning, I know lord is giving me strength to learn from this matter. From this sad matter, I learn something new. I learn to make myself stronger.

Strength flow strong in me after I praise the Lord. Without Lord, I'm nothing. Putting Lord in the 1st place will makes me feel nothing is big matter beside him. *Amen*

So prove with Scripture then.

The Holy Spirit came and give us the 10 commandments. Prove it.
The source is in the Bible.

lol. If you think only those Churches are authentic and the rest are fake, I really dunno what to say.

Why is it you all are so focus on the book of Matthew but ignore the rest of the others in the scripture?

Hebrews 8:7–9, 13

For if there had been nothing wrong with that first covenant, no place would have been sought for another. 8But God found fault with the people and saidb:

“The time is coming, declares the Lord,
when I will make a new covenant
with the house of Israel
and with the house of Judah.
9It will not be like the covenant
I made with their forefathers
when I took them by the hand
to lead them out of Egypt,
because they did not remain faithful to my covenant,
and I turned away from them,
declares the Lord.
10This is the covenant I will make with the house of Israel
after that time, declares the Lord.
I will put my laws in their minds
and write them on their hearts.
I will be their God,
and they will be my people.
11No longer will a man teach his neighbor,
or a man his brother, saying, ‘Know the Lord,’
because they will all know me,
from the least of them to the greatest.
12For I will forgive their wickedness
and will remember their sins no more.”c
13By calling this covenant “new,” he has made the first one obsolete; and what is obsolete and aging will soon disappear.

See the word there, Find Fault and the word there obsolete?

The new Law that God talks about in writing in your Heart is the Law of Love.

Love God and Love Others. That is what Jesus was trying to tell.

Because in essence when you practise only these 2 laws, it fulfils all the 10 commandments Laws.

So in other words, you're not really breaking any of the 10 commandments but you fulfil them through only these 2.

When you obey these 2 Laws of Love, You won't go out there and pray to others gods or commit adultery or steal, <insert the rest>

The reason why God himself made the 10 commandments faulty and and obsolete is because He wants ALL his people to look away from Self Effort to God dependant which is Jesus.

Our focus now must be on Jesus.

The 10 commandments is basically SELF, nothing to do with what God does for you, His Grace.

I hope you have the capacity to understand this.

I'm not asking you to go against the 10 commandments.

See the point?

Because this Truth is not a new truth, it's old.
It's in the Bible.
So prove with Scripture, dun just simply talk.
ok fair enough.

But Bro dun simply condemn other people churches la.
you never even step in and you can talk like you know for sure.
Even I wouldn't dare or even bother to call whatever Churches is cult or wat
It's not even in my heart to even think about it.
because I may never know if God is doing something in that Church.
If God is doing something in that Church and you go and simply condemn, not control your mouth, indirectly you're may also condemn God without knowing.

after so many pages now only understand          

Praise God. 

What makes you think I focus on Matthew?
I know what I speak. I read the whole bible for many times and I don't interpret what you interpreted.
I can only see a PERFECT jigsaw puzzle - a salvation of God.

Again, you need to understand how, why, who, where about the book of Hebrews.
Again, the target audience is Jews.

There is no room for debate here. It is no Mosaic laws for the Jews.
It is God's law. Love God & love others are exactly the 10 commandments.
I have no intention to debate or doubt your faith.
If this is your interpretation of scripture, I just pointed out it is wrong.
If you get this or learn this from a teacher or a source, beware of "false teacher" and "bad source".

What makes you think I focus on Matthew?
I know what I speak. I read the whole bible for many times and I don't interpret what you interpreted.
I can only see a PERFECT jigsaw puzzle - a salvation of God.

Again, you need to understand how, why, who, where about the book of Hebrews.
Again, the target audience is Jews.

There is no room for debate here. It is no Mosaic laws for the Jews.
It is God's law. Love God & love others are exactly the 10 commandments.
I have no intention to debate or doubt your faith.
If this is your interpretation of scripture, I just pointed out it is wrong.
If you get this or learn this from a teacher or a source, beware of "false teacher" and "bad source".

No actually that is partially true. The 10 commandments can be summarised in this two essential fundamentals: Love God and Love others.

They are not meant to replace or subtract the 10 commandments. Remember the context of the Book of Hebrews also .. that while the book addresses Jewish believers the point was not to alienate them...they were jewish in culture background but were having difficulties trying to balance observing the Jewish laws rituals and festivals and being a Christian and this whole element of Grace.

In short, Hebrews did not say the old practises were rubbish but rather with Jesus, there is a higher way.. that is all.

I do not understand why you guys are taking this and turning a simple discussion into a baseball bat to bludgeon and hurt others.

Come on..people. No need to start with insults and character assisinations. No point being able to expound the scripture if you cannot even have love and the grace to overlook. Correction is to be done with love. So everyone please...relax

hmm I still think you don't get it.
Romans 4:14

For if it is the adherents of the law who are to be the heirs, faith is null and the promise is void (ESV)

For if those who are of the Law are heirs, faith is made void and the promise is nullified; (NAS)

If God's promise is only for those who obey the law, then faith is not necessary and the promise is pointless. (NLT)
What does this tell you?

If you say that you obey the 10 commandment because you love God and want to obey him?

But God never really say that you know?

If you really want to be scriptural, Love others. that's all. NOT love the 10 commandments.

1 John 4:20
If anyone says, "I love God," yet hates his brother, he is a liar. For anyone who does not love his brother, whom he has seen, cannot love God, whom he has not seen

That's mean in essence, once you love others, by the same token, you also Love God.

NOW THAT is the new emphasize in NT.

One word. Love.

Actually the Scriptures include the Law of Moses which was divided both into the Law of Rituals and the Law of Rightneousness which the New Testament validates (the latter).

So again, remember the context. Just understanding bits and pieces of scripture in isolation is extremely dangerous.

The scripture has to be read in its entirety and within the proper context and background. Some people take not the bible in its entirety but, like "picking durian" (great term), choose to pick and choose verses that they like out of its proper context and then use it to further a point. Most cults and deviant teaching is birthed from this. Nothing is more dangerous than half truth or incomplete truths. Out right lies are easy to spot but partial truth is very very deceptive.

For example:

Luke 6:38

Give and it will be given to you pressed down....

Its normally used as a classic verse for offering and tithes..but if you read it carefully in its context that means the entire Luke 6 especially in 34 to 37 you find out, Hang on, this verse is not about offering!!?? Its actually about  mercy and grace and nothing about giving money to get blessing. But why so many people have been spouting out this verse when collecting offering?

Simple. Because its out of context.

So who to follow? Simple no one. Huh you say?

Yes! Test the scriptures yourself. Armed with a good concordance (Strong's is a good one), probably a study bible/Vine's commentary, lion's handbook is great too (my favourite)...read up about the setting, the place, purpose...etc (someone already covered that) and guided by the Holy Spirit, you will have no problems uncovering what the scripture speaks to you personally.

pehkay shares the whole importance of understanding a scripture in its depth and entirety rather nicely.

Well since you post this again.

Yes. and.......?

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Added on October 19, 2012, 3:27 pmOk, I'll come back later.

Keep this fellowship up.

And Olga, pls belanja us some durians.