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OlgaC4
post Oct 17 2012, 11:38 AM

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QUOTE(ysuyan @ Oct 17 2012, 11:34 AM)
Since u mention
it is "commandments"
I myself still follow.
However, nowadays, quite curious a lot of people questioned about the commandments.

You didnt?
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Thanks for the answer. I think most of them are cults questioned about the commandments.
Indeed i follow don't want to get burn in hell later.
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post Oct 17 2012, 11:40 AM

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QUOTE(ALeUNe @ Oct 17 2012, 11:36 AM)
You must understand the early missionary was meant for the Jews.
You can study the missionary journey of Apostle Paul.
He went to places where Jews gathered. His target audience was mainly the Jews.

Of course, the bible is for everyone today. 

Anyway, I just want to point out Christ didn't come to abolish the law.
I read the whole bible for many many times and I never learn that 10 commandments are not longer relevant. 
You just need to be very careful on the source you learn. This is what I am worried about.
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i concur.
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post Oct 17 2012, 11:47 AM

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QUOTE(skydrake @ Oct 17 2012, 11:29 AM)
Its been 2 days I never stop reading from here. Mr.unknown warrior, Mr.OlgaC4 & other fellow-ers replied. U guys are awesome, I learned a lot from both conversation. Still digesting some info until now.. *nom*.. nom.. nomm.. biggrin.gif
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post Oct 17 2012, 11:51 AM

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QUOTE(unknown warrior @ Oct 17 2012, 11:46 AM)
Yes I agree his initial Target was for the Jew, Don't forget, so was our Lord Jesus Christ.

His very first target was the Israelites, the Jews.

BY your reasoning, We can also ignore words spoken by Christ for the Jews in the Bible in NT?

That's heresy and Blasphemy.

Didn't the Bible say When the Holy Spirit comes, He will guide you into ALL truth? Not partial Truth?

Don't forget, Jesus is  Truth and Grace (John 1:17)

And I repeat It was only Him alone who could fulfilled the Law. And I did ask you a question.  Who in the entire Bible has actually fulfilled the 10 commandments perfectly? David? Paul? Even the Rich young Man in the Parable could not fulfilled it because of the love of money.

Do you know what is the purpose of the Law or not Aleune? if you claim to have read the Bible many many time, you should know the answer.
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Basic basic basic my Bro. You seems lost.
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post Oct 17 2012, 11:59 AM

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QUOTE(hotjake @ Oct 17 2012, 11:53 AM)
god chooses who he graces hehe
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Yes. not we presume we are at Grace.
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post Oct 17 2012, 12:03 PM

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QUOTE(unknown warrior @ Oct 17 2012, 11:54 AM)
Olga, if you just want to get stuck as basic, you'll never move on.

Hebrews 6:1 (NLT)
So let us stop going over the basic teachings about Christ again and again. Let us go on instead and become mature in our understanding. Surely we don't need to start again with the fundamental importance of repenting from evil deeds and placing our faith in God.
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If you get ever thing wrong. You must return to basic.
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post Oct 17 2012, 12:12 PM

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QUOTE(unknown warrior @ Oct 17 2012, 12:01 PM)
I tell you ar, you're really spreading nonsense. You know your bible or not?  sweat.gif
Hebrews 4:16
Let us then approach the throne of grace with confidence, so that we may receive mercy and find grace to help us in our time of need.
US there represent all of us who are in Christ.
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You presume Grace is with you when you don't follow the 10 commandments.

1. Do not worship other god.

You go and worship other god then expect God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob to show you grace when you don't follow him.


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post Oct 17 2012, 12:17 PM

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QUOTE(hotjake @ Oct 17 2012, 12:02 PM)
now i can buy that coz it's unpretentious and not full of irony if that is so.

when flawed just admit flaws. wait da minute... hoo amma kidding? he's god! damn it
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post Oct 17 2012, 12:23 PM

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Anyway i don't buy 4 digits. Just i want to prove a point here.
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post Oct 17 2012, 12:39 PM

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QUOTE(hotjake @ Oct 17 2012, 12:35 PM)
ah so this irrelevant, that relevant. cherry cherry again arghh
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post Oct 17 2012, 12:40 PM

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QUOTE(hotjake @ Oct 17 2012, 12:38 PM)
thous shall not kill is irrelevant. argghhh the word "follow" playing tricks huh? argghhh...

arghhh a spade isn't a spade is a spade. ya.... imma confused that some people think they r not as confused
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Added on October 17, 2012, 12:41 pmSo sorry my ass behaviour. Just want to prove a point

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post Oct 17 2012, 12:44 PM

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As i mentioned i am sorry for my ass behaviour. Just to prove a point.

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Hello can i kill you?

After killing you can proudly ask God for Grace.


Added on October 17, 2012, 12:47 pmHello where is my Grace.

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post Oct 17 2012, 01:16 PM

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QUOTE(hotjake @ Oct 17 2012, 01:08 PM)
this makes more sense. thank u.

i like the conditional love part
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post Oct 17 2012, 01:50 PM

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Sorry have to use harsh words.

You cannot teach an old dog new trick. Period
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post Oct 17 2012, 02:16 PM

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May God have mercy on you unknow warrior.
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QUOTE(Piros @ Oct 17 2012, 02:27 PM)
You fail to see Galatians in the light of the arguments in Romans by Paul on Grace, Law, & Sin.

Start by reading Romans 6

Romans 7:7

7 What shall we say then? Is the law sin? Absolutely not! Certainly, I would not have known sin except through the law. For indeed I would not have known what it means to desire something belonging to someone else if the law had not said, “Do not covet.”

Romans 13:8-10

8 Owe no one anything, except to love one another, for the one who loves his neighbor has fulfilled the law.

9 For the commandments, “Do not commit adultery, do not murder, do not steal, do not covet,” (and if there is any other commandment) are summed up in this, “Love your neighbor as yourself.”

10 Love does no wrong to a neighbor. Therefore love is the fulfillment of the law.

(Sorry only have King James Version in my computer)

What is Paul saying? That without the law, he doesn't know coveting is a sin. How could one know what is sin without the 10 commandments? This is exactly what Paul is saying. Which is why Galatians 5:22 only can be viewed accurately and what does Paul means "Against such things there no law".

What is Jesus commandment? Love one another... In other words Love your neighbor as yourself. How do you do that? It's right there in Romans 13:9.

Though we are not under the law but we are required to know the law in order to know what is sin. When you sin it displeases God and when you don't? It pleases Him because you obey Him.

Furthermore, I did not say nor imply the 10 commandments produces sanctification but the Holy Spirit.
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QUOTE(hotjake @ Oct 17 2012, 02:36 PM)
i'm 50 50. waiting for u guys to win me over with the bible quotes and complete comprehended interpretation  smile.gif
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Hello is a Book of life you cannot get comprehended interpretation by just reading it Ever time you read it may means something else (Rhema). Our Bro unknown warrior still having problem with that. smile.gif
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post Oct 17 2012, 03:11 PM

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QUOTE(Piros @ Oct 17 2012, 03:06 PM)
You're asking a question that is not related. I nowhere said the law save you but only Christ saves, you sir really needs to read my posts. What I'm saying is that the law shows what is sin and God hates sin, That is why the judgment day is coming. Because sin not only displeases Him but because He hates it too. It is Evil! This is not a base factor. The Bible clearly teaches this.

You need to remember one thing first and utmost, Jesus was sinless because He perfectly kept the 10 commandments of God. If even in just one time He fails to keep even one of the commandment, He couldn't save us at all!

When you keep the 10 commandments perfectly, you are as the angel and Christ, sinless. But human can't keep the commandments perfectly due to original sin which makes us incline to sinning. Which is what God is saying in Romans 3:10-18.

So if any human can keep the laws perfectly, He will not be judge because He obeyed and kept God's precepts. However no human can do that. Even the rich young man when he says I kept the commandments since young, but he didn't kept the most important one that is to love the LORD your God with you whole being" as we see his heart was set to riches.

It is possible for a man to enter heaven without Christ's atonement if he keeps God's commandments perfectly but again as I pointed out, we don't have that capability due to original sin. The only 2 humans had that was Adam & Even when they were still sinless.

Now let me ask you a question, why would God judge a person and say he is sinful when he keeps the 10 commandments perfectly? Without sin, they'll be no need for a savior.

A person who keeps the commandment perfectly is the person who love the Father, the Son, the Holy Spirit and Loves His Neighbor as himself. None of us except Christ have kept it.
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Yet so basic he cannot get it.
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post Oct 17 2012, 03:14 PM

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QUOTE(pehkay @ Oct 17 2012, 03:13 PM)
But what Piros said ... contradicts what you state on the last few days rclxub.gif
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