Will you be led astray?
So you're keeping all the commandments, not just the 10? Including animal sacrifices and such?

If Christ has fulfilled the laws, then we are no longer under bondage by the Law.
If we're no longer under bondage by the Law, then are we compelled to follow it physcially?
Or, we do as what we are compelled by the Spirit to do, hence the Law is already in our hearts and soul and mind, not reading scripts after scripts of textual Laws and observing the rites and rituals, yes?

Not following the 10 commandments, does it mean we no longer are bound by the textual Laws as per se, but through grace we will know what to do from our conscience through the Spirit's guidance, or do you perceive it as complete rejection (ie doing the opposite?) I am of the former, where the Spirit shall guide me through my conscience and press upon my heart to know if my action/inaction is righteous or not. As such, I no longer need the 10 commandments nor the Law, for the Spirit shall guide me to righteous path by the grace of God. Yes?

LOL .... I hope you are concurring the entire statement he was saying ...

How about this?

"I am of the former, where the Spirit shall guide me through my conscience and press upon my heart to know if my action/inaction is righteous or not. As such, I no longer need the 10 commandments nor the Law, for the Spirit shall guide me to righteous path by the grace of God."

God is good!

How long have you been a Christian?

Then by the same virtue you contradict this verse.

Galatians 5:4

You who are trying to be justified by law have been alienated from Christ; you have fallen away from grace. (NIV)
For if you are trying to make yourselves right with God by keeping the law, you have been cut off from Christ! You have fallen away from God's grace. (NLT)
You cannot have both.

How then do you observe the Sabbath?
You should be solidly grounded in the Word then 

Well ... look at this way... in one aspect of it

He[Jesus] has uplifted the standard of the law in two ways: by complementing the lower laws and by changing the lower laws into higher laws. In this way the morality in the commandments of the law has been uplifted to a higher standard.

He kept all the commandments of the law when He was on earth. Then He went to the cross to die for us. Through His substitutionary death, He fulfilled the law on the negative side. Furthermore, through His substitutionary death, He released His resurrection life into us, and we now have this resurrection life in our spirit. Because we are able to live by this resurrection life, we have the strength, ability, and capacity to have the highest standard of morality. As we walk according to the spirit (Rom. 8:4), we fulfill the righteous requirements of the law, fulfilling even more than the law requires. Therefore, we do not abolish the law; rather, we fulfill it in the highest way.

how do u guys praise the lord after u felt that he has helped u? i meant other than praying?

Bro, i have one more question to ask.

If Christ fulfilled all the Laws on the cross, why is it that you say the Spirit tells you only to follow the 10 commandments?
What about all the other laws for righteousness?

I dont mean by textual adherence of the Laws. I mean from the Cross, the Spirit will impress into our soul, heart and mind all of God's Laws.
But why just the 10?

thanks

I guess you know the context of Matthew 20. The householder is Christ. The morning here is 6:00 a.m., denoting the earliest part of the church age, when Christ came to call His disciples into the kingdom. The workmen are the disciples, and the vineyard is the kingdom. The agreement referred to in verse 2 denotes the agreement He made in 19:27-29. The denarius is the reward the Lord offered Peter in His agreement with him in 19:28 and 29.

The third hour was 9:00 a.m., denoting the second part of the church age. The word “idle” indicates that whoever does not work in the kingdom of the heavens is standing idle in the world, which is denoted by the market place. The sixth hour, 12:00 noon, denotes the middle part of the church age, and the ninth hour, 3:00 p.m., denotes the fourth part of the church age.

Verses 6 and 7 say, “And about the eleventh hour he went out and found others standing, and said to them, Why are you standing here all the day idle? They said to him, Because no one has hired us. He said to them, You go also into the vineyard.” The eleventh hour was 5:00 p.m., denoting the fifth part of the church age. Those hired at the eleventh hour said they were standing around idle because no one had hired them. Outside the kingdom of God, no human beings are employed by God. Although the hour was late, the Lord still sent them into the vineyard. Even near the end of the church age, the Lord still calls people to work in His kingdom.

According to verse 8, the householder rewarded the workmen at evening, that is, at 6:00 p.m. This denotes the end of the church age.

Verse 8 says, “And when evening was come, the lord of the vineyard said to his steward, Call the workmen and pay them their wages, beginning from the last to the first.” For the lord to begin from the last to the first was against the natural and commercial concept. It indicates that what is paid to the latest workmen is not according to their work, but according to the gracious wish of the lord of the vineyard.

Much to the surprise of those hired first, the last were the first to receive the reward, although they worked just one hour, not during the heat of the day. Thus, when those hired first saw that the last received a denarius, they expected to receive a great deal more. However, they also received a denarius. Verses 11 and 12 say, “And when they received it, they murmured against the householder, saying, These last have worked one hour, and you have made them equal to us who have borne the burden of the day and the scorching heat.” Those hired first should remember Romans 9:14-15 and 20. There is no unrighteousness with the Lord. He will have mercy on whom He will have mercy. Who are they to reply against the Lord? But Peter’s natural concept, representing that of all believers, was commercial; he did not know the Lord’s gracious wish. Thus, he murmured against the Lord according to legality.

Verse 13 says, “But he answered and said to one of them, Friend, I am not wronging you, did you not agree with me for a denarius?” By “one of them” the Lord was no doubt referring to Peter. The agreement mentioned in this verse was the agreement the Lord made with Peter in 19:27-29. Here the Lord seemed to be saying, “Peter, we signed an agreement. I don’t owe you anything, for I have given you what I promised. However, I’d like to show you that My reward is not a commercial matter, but a matter of grace. Peter, you need to learn the lesson of grace. The reward is a matter of grace according to My desire. Out of grace, I desire to give those hired last the same reward that I promised to give you. What is wrong with this?”

Verse 14 continues, “Take what is yours and go. I desire to give to this last one even as to you,” This was a strong answer to Peter from the Lord, indicating that the Lord had given him what He thought he deserved. But the Lord has the right to give the same thing to the latest workmen according to His own wish, in the principle not of work but of grace. This shattered and corrected Peter’s natural and commercial mind.

Verse 15 says, “Is it not lawful for me to do what I wish with what is mine? Or is your eye evil because I am good?” Peter’s concept, in dealing with the Lord in 19:27, was altogether commercial, according to the principle of work, not of grace. In His answer to Peter, the Lord strongly indicated that His reward to His followers is not commercial, but according to His desire and grace. For the disciples to gain the kingdom of the heavens, they need to leave all and follow the Lord. But what He will give them as a reward is more than they deserve. It is not according to the principle of commerce, but according to the Lord’s good pleasure. This is an incentive to His followers.

In verse 16 the Lord concludes this parable: “Thus shall the last be first and the first last.” The last are the latest workmen, and the first are the earliest ones. In working, the earliest ones came first, but in receiving the reward, the last became the first. It is this way that the Lord makes the last first and the first last. Therefore, the reward is not a legal matter, but a matter of grace.

We should not have a commercial mind. Salvation is based upon grace. The Lord Jesus has done everything for us, and there is no need for us to work. The kingdom reward, however, is according to our work, according to the price we pay. If we pay the price, then the Lord will give us a reward. It may seem that the reward is purchased by our work. If we think this, then we are like Peter with a commercial mentality. We need to be reeducated to see that even the reward is based upon grace. The way to receive the reward is not to pay the price, but to enjoy grace.

To be saved is to receive grace, and to gain the reward is to enjoy the grace we have received. When we believed in the Lord, we received grace and were saved. After receiving grace we must learn to enjoy grace. To leave all things behind and follow the Lord is not to pay a price; it is to enjoy the grace we have received. Do not think that you have sacrificed anything. What you sacrifice is just dung; it is vanity of vanities. Everything under the sun is vanity. Your education, position, and future are all vanity. Dung cannot be considered a price.

We all need to give up the commercial mentality.

I believe that we are in the last group of workmen, those hired at five o’clock in the afternoon. But we shall be the first to be rewarded, although we shall not work as long as Peter, James, John, and Paul, who have been working for nearly twenty centuries. They have labored the entire day, bearing the scorching heat. But we have labored for such a short time, at the most a number of years. Perhaps as we are receiving the reward, Peter will say to John, “Look, these people are receiving the reward before us.” But that will be the fulfillment of the Lord’s word that the last shall be the first and the first last. Perhaps John will say to Peter, “Peter, be patient. If these last ones are receiving such a reward, we shall certainly receive much more.” However, Peter and John may be surprised to receive the same reward as those hired last. But the Lord may say to Peter and to all those hired first, “Didn’t I make an agreement with you? Was not My promise satisfactory? Do not complain, but take your reward and go to the throne. Do I not have the right to do things according to My desire? Am I wrong for being good?” One day, we shall receive the same reward as Peter, and we shall receive it first. Peter’s reward will be a denarius, and ours will be the same. This denarius denotes the full enjoyment of the divine life in glory in the manifestation of the kingdom. This will be our reward.

May I know why not?

Why do you feel as if our Father in Heaven is not gracious?

You are very Works conscious.

I think the whole problem with your thinking is that your standing with God depends very much on your performance.

And perhaps you don't really understand the life of Faith.

Even if there's 10 of you challenge me, you're not really challenging me.

You're challenging the scripture.

Don't get so work up if you admit you need revelation of the Bible.

I may not be a super apostle with superior gift in Bible revelation but I do take time to study God's word.

If you're going to be a victor for Christ You NEED abundant of God's grace in your life Olga.

Romans 5:17
For if, by the trespass of the one man, death reigned through that one man, how much more will those who receive God's abundant provision of grace and of the gift of righteousness reign in life through the one man, Jesus Christ.
There highlight big-big so that your eyes don't pretend to be blind.

I ask you this la.

Even if you think you're right, that the 10commandments is needed to obey and you have Jesus.

Could you obey perfectly?

Tell us honestly?

You never fail even once? 

Edit: I'm not suggesting you go and sin all the 10 commandments, ok? Don't go n twist my words.

Bro, It's not wrong source. It's you have wrong understanding of what I'm trying to say.

I never say Because the 10 commandments is no longer relevant = go and sin and break all the 10 commandments.

You get this part?

Don't come and talk your theory to me.

Tell me the Truth.

Could you obey perfectly?

Tell ALL OF US here honestly?

You never fail even once?

Well you just disobeyed

Matthew 7:1-2.
1“Do not judge, or you too will be judged. 2For in the same way you judge others, you will be judged, and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you.
You didn't speak the Truth.

I thought you did. Because i remembered asking about adherence to the Laws, you said the Holy Spirit tells you to follow the 10 commandments.

Does this mean you follow it based on the textual codex of the 10?

From what i understand from unknown warrior, he says the 10 commandments, together with all other laws for righteousness, are not written off (ie no need to follow), but it is ingrained into us via the Spirit. His meaning is that our salvation is not based on adherence to the Law, but on grace.

The law is to make us aware. And from grace, comes salvation. From salvation, we observe the laws based on what the Spirit guides us. We no longer have to follow word by word from the old  testament (ie rites & rituals) but through the Spirit we know what's right and wrong. This also means that our observation of the Sabbath (from the 10 commandments) is not according to the Jewish sabbath but from God's purpose for us, which is to rest and meditate on His Word. The date of Sabbath also becomes irrelevant.

So basically, you and unknown warrior, shares the same idea (if you concur the above).
Otherwise, you're guilty of non observing the Jewish Sabbath (on a sat based on the Gregorian calendar) in the 10 commandments.

Bottom line is, observing the 10, or all the Mosaic Laws, do not grant you salvation nor make you righteous.
Its through grace. And from grace, you are then compelled to observe it.

Thats why even back then, gentiles (non Jews) too can be accepted as believers even when they do not observe the Jewish Laws. Because they are not under the Law, God judge them according to their heart. Likewise, we too are no longer under the Law. Christ has fullfilled the requirements for righteousness.

The gist of the LAW is for us to see, no matter how much we follow, we still cannot be perfect and righteous, because no one can follow ALL. None are perfect.

So why focus so much on observing the law? Focus on God instead.