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Portable Players Cube C30 mp3 music player FAN CLUB, Powerful and affordable? BBE ROCKS !!!!!

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post Apr 1 2011, 08:00 PM

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QUOTE(am3 @ Apr 1 2011, 07:57 PM)
can this player plays 44100 hz and 500++,600++,700++ kbps flac file?
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If it isn't in a terribly high compression (level 6 and above), it'll play any 16-bit FLAC.
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post Apr 1 2011, 08:50 PM

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QUOTE(tunertoobe @ Apr 1 2011, 08:00 PM)
If it isn't in a terribly high compression (level 6 and above), it'll play any 16-bit FLAC.
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so is it a yes for am3's answer?
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post Apr 1 2011, 09:17 PM

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QUOTE(am3 @ Apr 1 2011, 07:57 PM)
can this player plays 44100 hz and 500++,600++,700++ kbps flac file?
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the only thing it can't play is 24 bit/96 KHz.
16 bit/44100 hz is NOT a problem.
correct me if I'm wrong but I thought FLAC only goes up to 655,350 Hz.
what is this 500++,600++,700++ kbps flac files you are talking about?

Maybe what you need is a RM3500 Hifiman 801 and not a RM170 Cube C30.
Come to think of it I'm not sure if the Hifiman 801 can handle 24 bit/96 KHz.

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post Apr 1 2011, 09:38 PM

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QUOTE(wongpeter @ Apr 1 2011, 09:17 PM)

what is this 500++,600++,700++ kbps flac files you are talking about?


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post Apr 2 2011, 03:45 AM

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QUOTE(am3 @ Apr 1 2011, 07:57 PM)
can this player plays 44100 hz and 500++,600++,700++ kbps flac file?
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I've used FLAC files with bit rate up to around 1000 Kbps with the C30. Does that answer you question?

AFAIK, the limits on FLAC for this player is as what tunertoobe said..
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post Apr 2 2011, 10:04 AM

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QUOTE(wongpeter @ Apr 1 2011, 09:17 PM)
the only thing it can't play is 24 bit/96 KHz.
16 bit/44100 hz is NOT a problem.
correct me if I'm wrong but I thought FLAC only goes up to 655,350 Hz.
what is this 500++,600++,700++ kbps flac files you are talking about?

Maybe what you need is a RM3500 Hifiman 801 and not a RM170 Cube C30.
Come to think of it I'm not sure if the Hifiman 801 can handle 24 bit/96 KHz.
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HM801's DAC can handle 24/192. However this really isn't what Hz is about. Sampling rate doesn't equal to frequency response. Even the best desktop player that do 24/192 still cuts off at around ~22kHz at output. For most commercial music, there is no very obvious benefit to go to 24bits or beyond 44kHz because they are mastered at 16/44. Transcoding those music to 24/96 doesn't make it better than it already is.
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post Apr 3 2011, 12:52 PM

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hey guys, the cube c30 is stuck on the "bye bye" after my attempt to try to shut it down. how now?
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QUOTE(rubrubrub @ Apr 3 2011, 12:52 PM)
hey guys, the cube c30 is stuck on the "bye bye" after my attempt to try to shut it down. how now?
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Find a paper clip, use it to push the reset button.

From personal experience, you'll encounter *this from time to time. I even carry a paper clip around these days. laugh.gif

p/s: By 'this', I mean hangs..
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QUOTE(Agnaem @ Apr 3 2011, 01:18 PM)
Find a paper clip, use it to push the reset button.

From personal experience, you'll encounter *this from time to time. I even carry a paper clip around these days.  laugh.gif

p/s: By 'this', I mean hangs..
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man this sucks. why is it like this? don't they have firmware upgrade to fix this?
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QUOTE(rubrubrub @ Apr 3 2011, 01:30 PM)
man this sucks. why is it like this? don't they have firmware upgrade to fix this?
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IINM, the one that we get from beederbest is using v007.020 firmware. There's a v007.021, but from this source here, BBE MP, VIVA and others will be lost. Only BBE, and perhaps the USER1-3 remains.

Anyone tried any other firmware with the C30? Or perhaps players of this kind i.e. N2, Gumstick, C30 etc are all buggy? hmm.gif

p/s: I don't mind this level of bug. But it really bugs me when I didn't notice a self shutdown hanged, and left me with a drained C30. laugh.gif
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QUOTE(Agnaem @ Apr 3 2011, 01:58 PM)
IINM, the one that we get from beederbest is using v007.020 firmware. There's a v007.021, but from this source here, BBE MP, VIVA and others will be lost. Only BBE, and perhaps the USER1-3 remains.

Anyone tried any other firmware with the C30? Or perhaps players of this kind i.e. N2, Gumstick, C30 etc are all buggy?  hmm.gif

p/s: I don't mind this level of bug. But it really bugs me when I didn't notice a self shutdown hanged, and left me with a drained C30.  laugh.gif
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so far i'm only using BBE viva, BBE frequently and that's all. So i'll probably upgrade it. i really can't see myself bringing a paperclip everywhere i go.

yeah it isn't great at all the moment you take the mp3 out of the pocket and only to find out that it's battery-drained.
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The hanging on Bye Bye is a curious one - I got hit a few times on early days with C30 on v007.020, then somehow it becomes very stable without any reason. I have updated to v007.021 for two weeks now and haven't have any problem so far. My Gumstick (which is on a very old firmware) on the other never hang since I got it last year.
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QUOTE(rubrubrub @ Apr 3 2011, 02:11 PM)
so far i'm only using BBE viva, BBE frequently and that's all. So i'll probably upgrade it. i really can't see myself bringing a paperclip everywhere i go.

yeah it isn't great at all the moment you take the mp3 out of the pocket and only to find out that it's battery-drained.
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I merely place the clip at a sim card holder in my wallet. Finally found a use for the sim card holder. tongue.gif

I still don't feel like updating my firmware, but let us know how it goes. smile.gif

@ ClieOS: If only my unit would become stable on its own. laugh.gif Thanks for the share. smile.gif


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QUOTE(ClieOS @ Apr 3 2011, 04:26 PM)
The hanging on Bye Bye is a curious one - I got hit a few times on early days with C30 on v007.020, then somehow it becomes very stable without any reason. I have updated to v007.021 for two weeks now and haven't have any problem so far. My Gumstick (which is on a very old firmware) on the other never hang since I got it last year.
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keep us updated.

QUOTE(Agnaem @ Apr 3 2011, 09:29 PM)
I merely place the clip at a sim card holder in my wallet. Finally found a use for the sim card holder. tongue.gif

I still don't feel like updating my firmware, but let us know how it goes. smile.gif

@ ClieOS: If only my unit would become stable on its own.  laugh.gif  Thanks for the share. smile.gif
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i will do after i upgrade.
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post Apr 6 2011, 01:29 AM

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hi..i just got this incredible cube 30...man its sound so good..got any best set up for user BBE? looking to get acoustic sound..smile.gif
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post Apr 6 2011, 09:01 AM

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thank you guys. the highest i have is 710kbps flac file.
and no, i'd rather buy something else rather than the rm3500 system.
i'm not that much of an audiophile at all. just happen to have this high bit rate flac around.
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post Apr 6 2011, 09:49 AM

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Strange to say but my C30 on v007.020 has never hung on Bye Bye. I'm using a 8gb microSD and I always have about 1gb of free space on it. Are you chaps having this Hang problem having microSD's filled to the brim?


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QUOTE(AsTheCreatorZ @ Apr 6 2011, 01:29 AM)
hi..i just got this incredible cube 30...man its sound so good..got any best set up for user BBE? looking to get acoustic sound..smile.gif
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Yes it would be cool if some of you could share your user BBE setups for the different genres of music. I'm not so adventurous and have never gotten around to tweaking the user BBE settings. I'm quite happy though with the stock BBE settings of Viva, MP and Headphone2.

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post Apr 6 2011, 10:41 AM

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basically I just turn off the BBE as it doesn't sounds good via DT880.
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QUOTE(wongpeter @ Apr 6 2011, 09:49 AM)
Strange to say but my C30 on v007.020 has never hung on Bye Bye. I'm using a 8gb microSD and I always have about 1gb of free space on it. Are you chaps having this Hang problem having microSD's filled to the brim?


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Yes it would be cool if some of you could share your user BBE setups for the different genres of music. I'm not so adventurous and have never gotten around to tweaking the user BBE settings. I'm quite happy though with the stock BBE settings of Viva, MP and Headphone2.
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i have 2gb space lefy but not using a microsd card.

QUOTE(loonsave @ Apr 6 2011, 10:41 AM)
basically I just turn off the BBE as it doesn't sounds good via DT880.
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yeah i just turned it off. it's way too coloured for my likin
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QUOTE(wongpeter @ Apr 6 2011, 09:49 AM)
Strange to say but my C30 on v007.020 has never hung on Bye Bye. I'm using a 8gb microSD and I always have about 1gb of free space on it. Are you chaps having this Hang problem having microSD's filled to the brim?


Added on April 6, 2011, 9:55 am
Yes it would be cool if some of you could share your user BBE setups for the different genres of music. I'm not so adventurous and have never gotten around to tweaking the user BBE settings. I'm quite happy though with the stock BBE settings of Viva, MP and Headphone2.
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I have around 1GB free on the internal, no microSD used..

I used the user BBE to suit some headphones, mainly reducing bass or increasing treble on another. Though I haven't used the BBE ever since I bought the Eterna V1. It just doesn't work on most of my songs when paired with Eterna.

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