Portable Players Cube C30 mp3 music player FAN CLUB, Powerful and affordable? BBE ROCKS !!!!!
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 Feb 15 2011, 02:12 PM
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The Rocoo A(Gumstick equivalent) seems to be hiding their specs. I'm not even sure of their output(website says 10mW+10mW but for some reason using 32 Ohm load unlike 16 Ohm like most). Dunno what kind of output with no load they can put out.
I think I might buy one from you and do a head to head with my Gumstick. later la, after I got a HM-601.  This post has been edited by tunertoobe: Feb 15 2011, 02:23 PM |
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Feb 15 2011, 02:30 PM
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I dunno.....I might sell off the F1 earphone though.
I think if the F1 has bass, it'll be easier to sell off. I have a DDm that I want to test the Cube with. What colours do you have? I think at the end of this month la. I'm waiting for my Fuze+ to go away.  This post has been edited by tunertoobe: Feb 15 2011, 02:35 PM |
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Feb 15 2011, 03:01 PM
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QUOTE(beederbest @ Feb 15 2011, 02:41 PM) can order with me the version without cube F1 earphone but the price wont differ much. Just take the cube F1 u might surprise with its sound man. OK, PM me details about the non-F1 version.  Can order this first then only sell off ur Fuze+ no harm right?  I have blue or brown colour to order for this babe.  QUOTE(windboy @ Feb 15 2011, 02:53 PM) may i know where is your reference for the quotes? I MAY be able to help with that. GUmstick has much pushing power compare with Cube C30, which i would say is comparable. sounding wise? i dont really find any relevant and accurate comparison at all. |
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Feb 15 2011, 03:23 PM
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Well, that would explain the better battery life.
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Feb 15 2011, 04:21 PM
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Class A amplifies the analog signal wave fully. Therefore you get no distortion. But on the downside, at best, for every unit of power you give in, that is the power you're putting out.
Class AB IIANM, only amplifies half of the analog signal wave. You get a bit of distortion but over twice the power efficiency over a Class A amp. |
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Feb 16 2011, 07:16 AM
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And having them on in the Gumstick isn't that good too.
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Feb 16 2011, 06:05 PM
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Hehe, same here.
 Musicality puts the fun into music. There's nothing wrong with colouration, if it's done right. |
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Mar 10 2011, 07:06 PM
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Hmmm...I tried to max the C30 out and found that beyond 20, the volume lowers immediately. Didn't expect that.
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Mar 10 2011, 07:16 PM
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It was with BBE on. I didn't take notice exactly what volume because I held on to the volume up button. The volume rose quickly and I expected it to be very loud but then suddenly, the volume immediately lowers.
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Mar 10 2011, 07:30 PM
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I dunno, haven't checked. I did a reset on the settings and I'll try again.
Or maybe it's holding down the volume up button that activates that 'protection system'? Added on March 10, 2011, 7:31 pmOh wait, it's at 26 that it starts to lower. So I guess it's normal? Added on March 10, 2011, 7:33 pmHoly crap it's loud!! Yeah I turned off BBE and the volume barrier isn't activated. I didn't go to 31, only got to 29 and I pulled my IEM out. This post has been edited by tunertoobe: Mar 10 2011, 07:36 PM |
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Mar 10 2011, 07:44 PM
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Yeah. Imagine the volume with BBE on and without the limit.
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Mar 11 2011, 05:03 PM
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Maybe the Gumstick's true potential is when driving high impedance, highly inefficient full size headphones. Maybe at higher volumes does the Gumstick really shines.
Someone should do a comparison again. Speaking of Gumstick's pushing power, I did remember it being louder on the old firmware. This post has been edited by tunertoobe: Mar 11 2011, 05:18 PM |
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Mar 11 2011, 06:11 PM
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Hehe, as expected la.
But with high impedance headphones with low sensitivity, will there be a difference between the two? |
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Mar 11 2011, 08:25 PM
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QUOTE(wongpeter @ Mar 11 2011, 08:06 PM) This bickering shows how ppl are just so passionate about BBE! Waaaa.....don't you think that's a bit too much? 1st time I heard it ....for a moment I thought the C30 was a RM3000 Hifiman HM-801 in disguise! hahaha |
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Mar 11 2011, 08:45 PM
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Well, I compared it to the HM-601.
Well, understandably even for a baby Hifiman the C30 simply isn't in the same league. To put it in context, the HM-601 puts you into an enhanced reality. The C30 with BBE on, puts you in a fantasy world. This post has been edited by tunertoobe: Mar 11 2011, 08:48 PM |
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Mar 11 2011, 08:50 PM
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Yes, it's always more fun to try it yourself.
And the HM-801 as I understand should have a different sound sig compared to the 601/602. |
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Mar 11 2011, 09:28 PM
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The difference I can detect between the C30 and HM-601 is the instrument details, placement of vocals and instruments and sound stage.
Differentiating IEMs/headphones is a while lot easier, differentiating DAPs is tough for a newbie like me.  |
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Mar 11 2011, 10:01 PM
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QUOTE(wongpeter @ Mar 11 2011, 09:42 PM) Do you mean the separation ie the ability to differentiate the different musical instruments and as such the clarity? As for the soundstage all I am able to tell (from my limited exposure to high end stuff) at this point in time is the depth ie the perception of my distance to the performers/instruments and not so much the breadth that is the width of the performers/instruments from left to right. Limited depth gives me the impression of an undesirable 'flat sound'. When the depth increases significantly I find the music to be more 'airy' ie more space between the instruments. I am looking to experience the breadth of the soundstage which I have not experienced as yet. Yeah, everything in the music isn't compacted. As such hearing every single piece of instrument and vocal was easier. One that surprised me was that in one song, there were backup singer. I thought they stopped when the chorus kicks in towards the end, but I was wrong. My experience of BBE is that it seems to be 'immersive' ie I am in the midst of the performers/instruments which I find to be pleasant and desirable. I think you're definition of sound stage is about right. The whole thing opens up more, more expansive.This is my first encounter with a "high-end" (take this lightly ) DAP. I think I'm no more of a skilled listener than you are. |
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Mar 27 2011, 01:04 PM
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I am sorry I have to lead myself out of this C30 club. Some bumper crusher forced me to fork out the cash to fix my bumper, and now I'm left with an uncomfortable amount in the bank so I need to top it up a little.
 The link is in my sig. |
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Mar 27 2011, 03:42 PM
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Haha...thnks.
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