Sadly, N9 is not a up to the standard to replace N900; It feels more simple and iOS-ish.

It's a suitable replacement for the Nokia Symbian OS.

N950 also same, the OS is not comparable to Maemo 5; This one feels like a good replacement for Nokia Symbian OS.
Basically, OS Comparison wise, it's kind of a big difference/change; It doesn't look like a next version or replacement for Maemo OS; It feels like a totally different OS, which looks like iOS? Especially with it's colouring, and some similar features, no homescreen, etc. Perhaps this looks like a different iOS for intermediate-advance users? Hahaha...

Higher spec than N900, but lower spec than N9.

This post has been edited by Andy214: Jun 22 2011, 02:02 PM

Yes it kind of belong to a category or new OS, but because there're many OS available, it's easily compared to another which is similar. The white/greyish background has been sort of trademark of iOS? The on/off button is also very iOS? The slider also very iOS? I don't know.
If Maemo, they're totally different, totally different from the rest of the OS out there, and I love the glowing blue (or orange depends on the default theme used).
Secondly, the "no homescreen" is kind of trademark for iOS. Honestly, I have not seen other mobile OS without homescreen except iOS, now this. Altough it has 3 page, which they call homescreen; It's more like 3 menus, Task Manager, Events and Applications Menu. Where is the "desktop" or "homescreen" for Wallpapers and customization??? This is so iOS-ish... perhaps later they can implement this? I hope so...

In terms of fluidity, iOS and WP7 still feels smoother from the video, they have better "animation" or "transition".

All I can say, there's many influence from the iFruit; It's good to implement the simplicity, but ALWAYS, I mean, ALWAYS, provide OPTIONS or CHOICE for the users.
Some people say there's no need homescreen, for what? But this OS is target for many types of users, having an options is always the BEST; satisfy more types of customers;
Don't like homescreen? Fine, turn it off. Simple as that.
Don't like Flash? Fine, turn it off. Simple as that.

Don't be like Mr. Jobs, giving lame excuses when he doesn't "want" to provide the features.

That's why I said, it's better to provide than not to provide. They come from Maemo background, they should know better; But this is like an enhance from iOS feel, a more advance version of iOS (too much implementation of iOS or influence from it).

Actually, the desktop is what makes the feel of mobile computer, we're used to desktop customization, not necessarily widgets only; As with N900, the uniqueness of it's desktop, it can make no one N900 is alike. Everyone can creatively design their desktop and there're so many interesting Desktop design from many people; Remember the past members who make MGS desktop, placing the shortcut icons at the right place, customizing the icons, and so on. There's so much there, and custom size widgets, and the powerful widgets like Queen Beacon. All these work, just go down the drain.....
If you're the developer for one of the powerful widgets, from older Maemo up to Maemo5, suddenly the next replacement, no such support exist. Wow.

But anyway, N900/Maemo comparison aside, I would say this device and OS actually looks great; A good competitor against the other big 2.

This post has been edited by Andy214: Jun 22 2011, 06:51 PM

Take over? I doubt it; It's like 2 different OS; MeeGo Harmattan doesn't look like Maemo breed, too much difference.

Just wondering, the difference between MeeGo Harmattan and actual MeeGo, and what's the compatibilities or difference in practical use or for end user.

Yes, this is MeeGo Harmattan; not actual MeeGo. As I remember, Maemo6/Harmattan was already in the development process, then suddenly the MeeGo project came up. So, this Maemo6/Harmattan will be called as 1st instance of MeeGo;
Original plan was, after this MeeGo Harmattan, the next device from Nokia will be the full original MeeGo, but now not sure what's Lop Lop's plan.

There're a few as I know of, mainly, C/C++, Phython; There're Qt version/tools for these languages.

Previous when I look through, no proper tutorial that explains properly, only the basic "Hello World" which is pretty useless.


Hehe, actually, if a person truly have no regrets, he/she wouldn't look back and come back, moreover must write it out; It sounds and feels like a self-comforting thing. But anyway, to each his own; some people prefers simple and easy to use phone (or gaming) and don't need a real smartphone; Just like some people can live with Netbook and Windows 7 Starter edition, it fit their needs and it's light, etc. While some people cannot stand the limitation and look for something more powerful to fullfill their need/requirement.

If you love Android, then strongly suggest you to get an Android phone. NITdroid is more like for you to experiment and experience Android on the N900, the core/main OS is still Maemo. Besides, the screen of N900 is resistive, which means, you won't have multi-touch
feature.

If you like the form factor, shape and keyboard of N900, then the closest Android you can look for is the Motorola Milestone; The current version is Milestone 2, Droid/Milestone 3 is leaked but not sure when will actually launch; Milestone 1 have similar spec with N900.



As above, for Android device that look most like N900 is the Droid/Milestone.

This post has been edited by Andy214: Jul 2 2011, 09:32 AM

This is more like VNC, software based; need to install on client machine and setup first. Actually the software is not only iOS have.

Yes, App Manager will consume a lot of resources. Another reason is due to low amount of RAM on N900. OC doesn't really help, because the problem is the memory, and if you run other things that consume memory, it'll get worst; If you N900 has been using for days without restarting, the might have memory leak or some process hogging the memory, etc. which will just make it worst

Normally, when I use App Manager, I don't use run other app or browser, let it finish its thing. After update everything, restart the device for a fresh start. After you update, even you close the App Manager, you device may not perform well as the resources doesn't seem to be released "properly".

Yup, the flexibility of Maemo 5 desktop would not be possible for actual Portrait unles having 2 separate setting, which you need to customize for "both" technically. You can't customize the Desktop and expect the Portrait to follow suit, unless the widgets, icons is placed in a fixed sized container like Symbian.

Anyway, I guess people are used to Portrait orientation and cannot seem to accept it. Some OS, only have Portrait orientation homescreen and menu screen, but you don't see much people complain, it's because it's already a "common" or what people used to.
Imagine some company come up with Portrait orientation, it would look awkward and people will feel indifferent.
N900 is after all a tablet with phone feature, think of Galaxy Tablet comes with Phone feature, plus the hardware keyboard is landscape orientation, it makes more sense to make it landscape orientation as default; It's just the way people hold their "normal" phones; but actually for tablets, specifically web browsing, picture viewing, watching movie, or most of the smartphone feature, are more desireable to be in landscape mode.
So, actually, in my opinion, Landcape mode is more desirable, imagine from Desktop, you go to view picture, watch video, etc. You DON'T have to rotate your phone; Heck, even SMS is more desireable to read in landscape mode (not to mentioned typing with the keyboard). Thus, in landscape mode, there's hardly any rotation needed during operation.

This or Milestone/Droid 3? Hmmmmm.......
Design wise, Droid 3 doesn't look as good as Droid 2, but the physical keyboard looks better; but heard both have locked bootloader.

Haha, I think it's nothing for N900 owners
As long they can hack it and provide a decent firmware.
Many Android devices have short lifetime support, no future update after certain version, unless probably you get the Google Nexus?

Waiting for the N9 to decide?

I'm more interested in the OS; Since it's capable of true multi-tasking.... just whether how good it is against Android. Still, the lack of Flash support is "not nice"... I'm the kind of person who prefers to surf full desktop site than mobile site, and also options for us to choose, rather than forced to. In the end, using both qwerty device and non-qwerty device together, it's truly a pain not to have qwerty. Unless there's a good qwerty device, the N900 is there to stay.

Sorry, I think I said something in-appropriate previously. Anyway, my meaning was like Darl_Angel85, the re-sale value is low, I wouldn't feel it's worth to sell, that's all; Some of the phones I own before also never sold as it's so low that I rather keep it.
But as a student, it's another different story and I can't comment much on this as during my college time, there was no such thing as smartphone yet and during those days we use one phone for very long time
Nowadays it's very different, technology moves very fast and people get to experience and learn more things, which is actually a good thing.

Anyway, hope there will be an opportunity for you to test out the N9 in future.

In terms of OS, still nothing beats Maemo; And MeeGo isn't exactly a replacement for Maemo, it kind of evolve to another species, joining the Android category. Maemo was more of a higher end OS, which gives you closer to a Desktop OS feel, well, it's a real Tablet OS, while Android for Tablet isn't exactly there yet.

Anyway, just to share some information and experience with *leaked* Symbian Belle:

Surprisingly, Belle have a lot of Maemo touches.... the boot up "...." is from Maemo?
The black theme with glowing blue is Maemo trademark?
There're some Maemo touches here and there....

The drop down from Top is so Android, lol

The homescreen is more flexible, the "container is still there, but your icons can place more flexible way and widget size can be bigger too, BUT it still supports Landscape and Portrait mode.
The catch? Is just like what I mentioned before in Maemo forum; In order to accomodate for landscape and portrait mode, they can't link both (meaning, you have to re-organize for Portrait/Landscape, which mean they're kind of not the same anymore like last time.) So, you after you arrange/design your Portrait homescreen, when you switch to Landscape, you need to re-arrange/re-design again, they're NOT link, more like different homescreen with similar icons/widgets and wallpaper.

Overall, Belle gives much better experience, much more improved over previous Symbian, the virtual keboard are also way better to use.

For drawing, check this out, you can't never do it with capacitive touch:


For small device, capacitive is actually better as it provides more precision, the use of finger nails, stylus or other objects other than fingers. For bigger screens like iPad, there's not really a need for resistive.

As I know, Capacitive doesn't have pressure level detection or control; A touch is simple... a touch.
As for Resistive, I'm not sure it "actually" has one or not, but it does feels like it has some slight detection?
I read one article quite long ago, which mentioned about a new technology which combines both the strength of capacitive and resistive, plus a new feature, which is pressure sensor or something like that, it simulate the advantage in gaming like how hard you press on the accelerator and so on.

How does it work? Only for some application? Is it really pressure or "coverage", e.g. when you touch lightly, only some part of your finger actually touches the screen.

As capacitive, as I know, it's pretty straightforward.

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Added on September 5, 2011, 5:31 pmIf it's using this technology, then I suppose it should be the new type screen instead of the capacitive:

http://www.intomobile.com/2009/12/30/press...coming-in-2010/

"IFSR, on the other hand, allows for quick and responsive touch inputs, like a capacitive touchscreen, while still supporting pressure-based inputs, like a resistive touchscreen. It works with multi-touch gestures and even detects inanimate objects. Better yet, the IFSR tech is relatively cheap – it costs just $10 for a square foot of the touchscreen panel, even less for smaller applications. And, the tech is expected to start popping up in consumer electronics in 2010."


This post has been edited by Andy214: Sep 5 2011, 05:31 PM

I think the guy is using some pen or something.

Interested in MeeGo and/or want to have a sneak preview of the N9:

http://www.facebook.com/event.php?eid=117072151727896