oh ok, now we know where that elbow came from!

always thought he was one of the quieter, calmer lads... and that Carragher would be the one to put a boot up Torres' butt

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Added on February 11, 2011, 10:30 am

I am still uncertain if CA or the other Chelsea players actually want Torres.

Daniel Agger has denounced Fernando Torres for showing a lack of "respect" for Liverpool by joining Chelsea but admitted the Merseysiders' dismal start to the season had contributed heavily to the Spaniard's inconsistent form.

The Denmark centre-half has been a key member of the Liverpool side revitalised under Kenny Dalglish, rising to sixth in the table and six points from the fourth Champions League qualification place. The arrival of the £23m Luis Suárez from Ajax and Newcastle's Andy Carroll for a club record £35m could add even more impetus, potentially offsetting the £50m departure of Torres to Stamford Bridge.

The Spaniard's move, triggered by a desire to leave Anfield, frustrated Agger. "It is unacceptable to play for one of Liverpool's arch rivals," he said. "For a Dane, it's about having respect for the club you play at. I am proud to be able to pull on my Liverpool jersey and will never go to another club in England. I would never go to Manchester United or Everton, for example. It's about a form of respect for the club.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2011/fe...ol-daniel-agger
hail agger!!!!!    

Daniel Agger has denounced Fernando Torres for showing a lack of "respect" for Liverpool by joining Chelsea but admitted the Merseysiders' dismal start to the season had contributed heavily to the Spaniard's inconsistent form.

The Denmark centre-half has been a key member of the Liverpool side revitalised under Kenny Dalglish, rising to sixth in the table and six points from the fourth Champions League qualification place. The arrival of the £23m Luis Suárez from Ajax and Newcastle's Andy Carroll for a club record £35m could add even more impetus, potentially offsetting the £50m departure of Torres to Stamford Bridge.

The Spaniard's move, triggered by a desire to leave Anfield, frustrated Agger. "It is unacceptable to play for one of Liverpool's arch rivals," he said. "For a Dane, it's about having respect for the club you play at. I am proud to be able to pull on my Liverpool jersey and will never go to another club in England. I would never go to Manchester United or Everton, for example. It's about a form of respect for the club.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2011/fe...ol-daniel-agger
hail agger!!!!!    

If I not mistaken, CA last season said he prefered Drog over Torres. The obsession for Torres (and Gerrard in the past) is start by Roman Abramovich himself. He got his man and CA have to play him, or else...see what happened to Mour.

The Spaniard's move, triggered by a desire to leave Anfield, frustrated Agger. "It is unacceptable to play for one of Liverpool's arch rivals," he said. "For a Dane, it's about having respect for the club you play at. I am proud to be able to pull on my Liverpool jersey and will never go to another club in England. I would never go to Manchester United or Everton, for example. It's about a form of respect for the club.

Daniel Agger has denounced Fernando Torres for showing a lack of "respect" for Liverpool by joining Chelsea but admitted the Merseysiders' dismal start to the season had contributed heavily to the Spaniard's inconsistent form.

The Denmark centre-half has been a key member of the Liverpool side revitalised under Kenny Dalglish, rising to sixth in the table and six points from the fourth Champions League qualification place. The arrival of the £23m Luis Suárez from Ajax and Newcastle's Andy Carroll for a club record £35m could add even more impetus, potentially offsetting the £50m departure of Torres to Stamford Bridge.

The Spaniard's move, triggered by a desire to leave Anfield, frustrated Agger. "It is unacceptable to play for one of Liverpool's arch rivals," he said. "For a Dane, it's about having respect for the club you play at. I am proud to be able to pull on my Liverpool jersey and will never go to another club in England. I would never go to Manchester United or Everton, for example. It's about a form of respect for the club.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2011/fe...ol-daniel-agger
hail agger!!!!!    

As long as FSG don't do what Abramovich does to his managers then it should be ok. FSG just managed the club in terms of marketing and leave the football to Kenny. Prepare the transfer fund for KD to buy his own choice of players. Don't force KD to buy a certain player that although world class but not in KD's plan. remember Shevchenko? Mourinho didn't want him but Abramovich for Mourinho to use shevchenko. Just do what Glazer did which is leave football matter to SAF although Glazer leave a huge pile of debt on MU. lol.

Exactly what I've been trying to lay out since the last few posts. This is not about accepting the reality or not. I know each and everyone has their own dream or target and moving on is inevitable in football. But joining a rival club is just plain unacceptable. You join Chelsea because Lampard is better than Gerrard? You join Man Utd because Fletcher is more hardworking than Kuyt? Where's the respect for King Kenny? CA or SAF will give me more confidence as compared to KD?

At this point in time, Man Utd look like being Prem League champs and are in the Champ League. They have had unrivalled success in the past 20 years so they are still miles ahead of us. Unfair to compare Dalglish and Fergie at this point.

i dont think FSG act like Roman, u can see how they give a time to Roy, they not fired him, it is mutual between them. It is pressure for roy to handle a big team like liverpool. but still Roy leave with a respect from owner and fans. FSG already mention they come to liverpool for a long time plan to revive liverpool. It means no short cut. This is to improve youth academy, bring youngster to liverpool and at the same time they want to make profit. I prefer this way rather than billionaire spoil the sport way.

one thing bout lucas is he's not consistent, good in one game, shit on another..
but he's improving dats for sure ..
btw iinm he played as attacking mid in gremio, no ??

Please pass me some of that stuff that you're smoking 
I find it amazingly amusing that the "Roy for England" calls have subsided in a non sarcastic way.

Imho John Henry isn't even close to being as rich as any of the other owners, but I suspect he has a lot more access to other peoples' money - which is even better because aside from having potentially more funds than anyone else, he also needs to be held accountable for his use of said funds, hence less knee jerk or impulsive splurges?

dont think so mate, if u follow liverpool match this season, he's one of the good and consistent liverpool player in the field. he does a good dirty job. but under the KD we can see more from him

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Added on February 11, 2011, 11:35 am

eheheh. yes, he leaves. thats y fans respect him, no need to wait until owner to sack him. ofcourse he receives a lot of pressure to step down and he took it by mutual between owner and him. if he has a lot of ego, he will waits until owner to sack him

i dont think FSG act like Roman, u can see how they give a time to Roy, they not fired him, it is mutual between them. It is pressure for roy to handle a big team like liverpool. but still Roy leave with a respect from owner and fans. FSG already mention they come to liverpool for a long time plan to revive liverpool. It means no short cut. This is to improve youth academy, bring youngster to liverpool and at the same time they want to make profit. I prefer this way rather than billionaire spoil the sport way.

At this point in time, Man Utd look like being Prem League champs and are in the Champ League. They have had unrivalled success in the past 20 years so they are still miles ahead of us. Unfair to compare Dalglish and Fergie at this point.

one thing bout lucas is he's not consistent, good in one game, shit on another..
but he's improving dats for sure ..
btw iinm he played as attacking mid in gremio, no ??

84% pass completion all season supposedly... that does imply some degree of consistency.

I suppose the real problem with Lucas' game is that it isn't flashy. Aside from his mistakes, there isn't anything memorable about it. Accordingly, it is glaringly obvious when he does make a mistake that gifts a goalscoring chance to the opposition.

Unlike our previous two midfield anchors - Alonso was always remembered for his looooong accurate passes (although his forte imho were not his passes but his many many interceptions) while Mascherano attracts more attention with his scampering runs across the pitch, gobbling up space and making that crunching tackle on some unfortunate sod... Both very spectacular and pleasing to look at.

Lucas on the other hand plays a simple understated game. I would go as far as say that Lucas is a better player in KK (oh oh ok, KD and not King Kenny) KD's system than either Alonso or Mascherano will ever be.

Pass and move isn't spectacular - it is simple and effective. Imho anyways.

84% pass completion all season supposedly... that does imply some degree of consistency.

I suppose the real problem with Lucas' game is that it isn't flashy. Aside from his mistakes, there isn't anything memorable about it. Accordingly, it is glaringly obvious when he does make a mistake that gifts a goalscoring chance to the opposition.

Unlike our previous two midfield anchors - Alonso was always remembered for his looooong accurate passes (although his forte imho were not his passes but his many many interceptions) while Mascherano attracts more attention with his scampering runs across the pitch, gobbling up space and making that crunching tackle on some unfortunate sod... Both very spectacular and pleasing to look at.

Lucas on the other hand plays a simple understated game. I would go as far as say that Lucas is a better player in KK (oh oh ok, KD and not King Kenny) KD's system than either Alonso or Mascherano will ever be.

Pass and move isn't spectacular - it is simple and effective. Imho anyways.

84% pass completion all season supposedly... that does imply some degree of consistency.

I suppose the real problem with Lucas' game is that it isn't flashy. Aside from his mistakes, there isn't anything memorable about it. Accordingly, it is glaringly obvious when he does make a mistake that gifts a goalscoring chance to the opposition.

Unlike our previous two midfield anchors - Alonso was always remembered for his looooong accurate passes (although his forte imho were not his passes but his many many interceptions) while Mascherano attracts more attention with his scampering runs across the pitch, gobbling up space and making that crunching tackle on some unfortunate sod... Both very spectacular and pleasing to look at.

Lucas on the other hand plays a simple understated game. I would go as far as say that Lucas is a better player in KK (oh oh ok, KD and not King Kenny) KD's system than either Alonso or Mascherano will ever be.

Pass and move isn't spectacular - it is simple and effective. Imho anyways.

one thing bout lucas is he's not consistent, good in one game, shit on another..
but he's improving dats for sure ..
btw iinm he played as attacking mid in gremio, no ??