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Ares187
post Feb 7 2011, 05:12 PM

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Clockwork Orange 40th Anniversary Blu-ray Coming Up

The French branch of Warner Home Video has announced that, on May 18, it will re-release Stanley Kubrick's A Clockwork Orange in a 40-Anniversary, 2-Disk Digibook Blu-ray edition. Just a few days earlier, the film be projected digitally at the Cannes Film Festival, featuring a new digital restoration. There is no information about a US release at the moment.

To celebrate the 40th anniversary of the start of the long-standing relationship between Warner Bros and Kubrick, seven of his movies will be digitally projected in theaters across France starting June 1: Lolita, 2001: A Space Odyssey, A Clockwork Orange, Barry Lyndon, The Shining (in its US version, never released before in French cinemas), Full Metal Jacket and Eyes Wide Shut.

Additionally, the French Cinémathèque will host an exhibition on Stanley Kubrick, with an area of over 10,000 square feet and displaying screenplays, correspondence, research documents, on-set photographs, costumes and props, as well as in-depth documentation on Kubrick's unfinished projects, such as his Napoleon.

A Clockwork Orange (1971)

Drama | Crime | Thriller

Stanley Kubrick's dystopian masterpiece is set in the near future where urban thugs run wild and new methods of crime deterrence are being explored. Career gang member Alex (Malcolm McDowell) is nabbed by the police and offered the chance to a commuted sentence if he undergoes a kind of surgical therapy. One where his brain does not allow him to execute his violent urges.


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post Feb 7 2011, 05:49 PM

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After trouble on creating UK iTunes account, finally success rip out the Digital Copy of my Minority Report.... biggrin.gif .... for FUN! doh.gif
I put in iPod touch also never watch! ops!

I now got 3 accounts for iTunes:
- US
- UK
- MY

Ha! Ha!..... maybe future include France, Germany and etc... tongue.gif

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Wanted to show some data on how "pirated" BDs are different from original BDs.

This is some bitrate scans from Robin Hood Prince of Thieves.

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Title                                                           Codec   Length  Movie Size      Disc Size       Bitrate Bitrate Main Audio Track                          Secondary Audio Track
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Robin Hood: Prince of Thieves                                   VC-1    2:35:03 39,376,379,904  48,361,286,815  33.86   24.70   Dolby TrueHD 5.1 1662Kbps (48kHz/16-bit)  DD AC3 5.1 640Kbps


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Title                                                           Codec   Length  Movie Size      Disc Size       Bitrate Bitrate Main Audio Track                          Secondary Audio Track
-----                                                           ------  ------- --------------  --------------  ------- ------- ------------------                        ---------------------
00033.MPLS                                                      AVC     2:35:09 21,615,052,800  24,860,287,265  18.58   12.95   Dolby TrueHD 5.1 1662Kbps (48kHz/16-bit)  DTS 5.1 768Kbps (48kHz/24-bit)


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This is a major difference. While I am unsure if the Asian edition or the UK Edition of Prince of Thieves are AVC, the bitrate is almost half. Warner normally uses the same encode worldwide. The video bitrate is almost half. The audio seems to be the same in this case.

Maybe this will put to rest if there is a difference. Visually, there was a difference. On some scenes with high activity, there is more noise and finer details seems fuzzier on the pirated version. So if u r really interested in the PQ, AQ etc, get original. Always.

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QUOTE(anfieldude @ Feb 7 2011, 06:03 PM)
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Sure got different, as pirated only 25GB where most original is 50GB. I believe those 25GB ori will exactly the same as pirated.
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QUOTE(Andrewtst @ Feb 7 2011, 06:13 PM)
Sure got different, as pirated only 25GB where most original is 50GB. I believe those 25GB ori will exactly the same as pirated.
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the question is how many people going to realize the different?
some dun even have proper tv, just use CRT whistling.gif
some dun even have proper HT, just use tv speaker whistling.gif
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I think the bit rate for pirated are "starved" because they use 25GB disc?? Usually AQ is not starved as less demanding

Any reason why they can't use 50GB disc? Cost or some special process for 50GB disc?
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QUOTE(maskedchan @ Feb 7 2011, 06:22 PM)
the question is how many people going to realize the different?
some dun even have proper tv, just use CRT whistling.gif
some dun even have proper HT, just use tv speaker  whistling.gif
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Ha Master Chan Kung Hei Fatt Choy.. CNY not over oredi start to squeeze my balls meh? sweat.gif U forgot to ad no.3, some buy and sell (for business sake) but act like for own collection. brows.gif

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QUOTE(specuvestor @ Feb 7 2011, 06:24 PM)
I think the bit rate for pirated are "starved" because they use 25GB disc?? Usually AQ is not starved as less demanding

Any reason why they can't use 50GB disc? Cost or some special process for 50GB disc?
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Possible price issue as 50GB blank disc still expensive.
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Just test minority report UK edition. It was clear and great transfer. And extra also in HD. Now I am curious how big the movie and transfer rate compare with US edition where review site said movie in around 47GB and extra all in second disc. This is obvious UK edition movie wont be that big as all squeeze in single 50GB disc.
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Then again, a pirated one cost almost 1/5 times the price of an original one.

Meaning watching 5 acceptable blu-ray quality disc V.S 1 originial blu-ray. sweat.gif

THEN again, its personal preferences. smile.gif
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QUOTE(Andrewtst @ Feb 7 2011, 07:10 PM)
Just test minority report UK edition. It was clear and great transfer. And extra also in HD. Now I am curious how big the movie and transfer rate compare with US edition where review site said movie in around 47GB and extra all in second disc. This is obvious UK edition movie wont be that big as all squeeze in single 50GB disc.
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Disc:
Region: 'A'-locked
Runtime: 2:25:15.331
Disc Size: 47,854,980,188 bytes
Feature Size: 47,201,415,168 bytes
Video Bitrate: 37.14 Mbps
Chapters: 24
Case: Standard Blu-ray case
Release date: April 20th, 2010

Video:
Aspect ratio: 2.35:1
Resolution: 1080p / 23.976 fps
Video codec: MPEG-4 AVC Video

Audio:
DTS-HD Master Audio English 3015 kbps 5.1 / 48 kHz / 3015 kbps / 24-bit (DTS Core: 5.1 / 48 kHz / 1509 kbps / 24-bit)
Dolby Digital Audio French 640 kbps 5.1 / 48 kHz / 640 kbps / DN -4dB
Dolby Digital Audio Spanish 224 kbps 2.0 / 48 kHz / 224 kbps / DN -4dB / Dolby Surround

Subtitles:
English (SDH), English, French, Spanish, none

Extras: (all on a 2nd Blu-ray included and all with optional subtitles)
• The Future According to Steven Spielberg (18-part -34:03 in HD!)
• Inside the World of Precrime (10:11 in HD!)
• Philip K. d***, Steven Spielberg and Minority Report (14:19 in HD!)
• Minority Report: Future Realized (6:22 in HD!)
• Minority Report: Props of the Future (9:42)
• Highlights from Minority Report From the Set (2 pieces):
- The Hoverpack Sequence (6:06 in HD!)
- The Car Factory Sequence (2:57 in HD!)
• Minority Report: Commercials of the Future (3:55 in HD!)
• Previz Sequences:
- The Hoverpack Sequence Previz (1:43 in HD!)
- Maglev Chase Previz (2:10 in HD!)

• Previously Released Special Features (duplicated from the last DVD - all in SD)
• From Story to Screen (19:03 in total): (2 pieces):
- The Story/The Debate (9:36)
- The Players (9:27)
• Deconstructing Minority Report (42:06)
• The Stunts of Minority Report (26:45)
• ILM and Minority Report (6-part - 20-minutes in total)
• Final Report (3:59)
• Production Concepts / Storyboard Sequences
• Three Trailers in HD!
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Recommend me some good, cheap 3D Blu-Ray..
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QUOTE(low98944 @ Feb 7 2011, 07:33 PM)
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I seen that before, that is US disc information. I need UK version information.
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QUOTE(Andrewtst @ Feb 7 2011, 07:59 PM)
I seen that before, that is US disc information. I need UK version information.
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UK's BD info:

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•The Future According to Steven Spielberg: An Interactive Guide to Minority Report.Inside the World of Pre-Crime.
•Philip K. d***, Steven Spielberg and Minority Report.
•Future Realized.
•Props of the Future.

•Highlights from Minority Report: From the Set.

•The Hoverpack Sequence.
•The Car Factory Sequence.
•Commercials from the Future.
•Pre-effects Hoverpack and Maglev Scenes.

•From Story to Screen 2002.*
•The Story, The Debate.
•The Players.

•Deconstructing Minority Report.*
•The World of Minority Report.Pre-Crime and Pre-Cogs.
•Spyder Sequence
•.Pre-Cog Visions.
•Vehicles of the Future.

•The Stunts of Minority Report.*
•Maglev Escape.
•Hoverpack Chase.
•Car Factory.
•ILM and Minority Report.
•An Introduction.
•Holograms.
•Hall of Containment.
•Maglev.
•Hovercraft and Hoverpacks.
•Cyberparlor.

•Final Report: Steven Spielberg and Tom Cruise.*
•Production Concepts Gallery.*
•Storyboard Sequences.*
•Theatrical Trailers 1 and 2.*


Source: http://www.blurayfreak.com/2010/02/minorit...ease-in-uk.html

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studio: 20th Century Fox; country: UK; region code: ABC; codec: AVC;
file size: 27 GB; average bit rate (including audio): 26.71 Mbit/sec
Source: http://www.landofwhimsy.com/archives/2010/...inority-report/

Remember to use google to search. Google is very convenience tool tongue.gif
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QUOTE(Jenn77 @ Feb 7 2011, 06:25 PM)
Ha Master Chan Kung Hei Fatt Choy.. CNY not over oredi start to squeeze my balls meh?  sweat.gif U forgot to ad no.3, some buy and sell (for business sake) but act like for own collection.  brows.gif
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dont be so serious..just pull your leg..
who is the no.3?mr.langit?

QUOTE(Andrewtst @ Feb 7 2011, 07:06 PM)
Possible price issue as 50GB blank disc still expensive.
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not really, if not mistaken someone here sell rm8 for 50gb BD-R...


QUOTE(Boy96 @ Feb 7 2011, 07:34 PM)
Recommend me some good, cheap 3D Blu-Ray..
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http://www.amazon.com/Universe-Wonders-Sol...97081468&sr=8-1

$14.99
maybe there are other that cheaper..but this price is good enough

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QUOTE(maskedchan @ Feb 7 2011, 08:25 PM)
not really, if not mistaken someone here sell rm8 for 50gb BD-R...
Any technical reason then? Or maybe 50GB stamping machines hard to come by laugh.gif

But rm8 considered ex I guess compared to their average selling price...
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QUOTE(Andrewtst @ Feb 7 2011, 07:59 PM)
I seen that before, that is US disc information. I need UK version information.
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Check in avs forum. The info indicates that US has higher bitrate but no perceivable difference in PQ.
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hmm, I need Blu-Ray 3D that really POPS out of the screen
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QUOTE(low98944 @ Feb 7 2011, 08:19 PM)
UK's BD info:
Source: http://www.blurayfreak.com/2010/02/minorit...ease-in-uk.html
Source: http://www.landofwhimsy.com/archives/2010/...inority-report/

Remember to use google to search.  Google is very convenience tool  tongue.gif
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Haha....thanks a lot for the infor.

I do Google but it dislike me and not given me any info, ops! tongue.gif

It means the UK only 27GB but US is 47GB! But I read somewhere else it seems not much different, some more UK edition do fix US top and bottom tramline issue. biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(maskedchan @ Feb 7 2011, 06:22 PM)
the question is how many people going to realize the different?
some dun even have proper tv, just use CRT  whistling.gif
some dun even have proper HT, just use tv speaker  whistling.gif
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QUOTE(Jenn77 @ Feb 7 2011, 06:25 PM)
Ha Master Chan Kung Hei Fatt Choy.. CNY not over oredi start to squeeze my balls meh?  sweat.gif U forgot to ad no.3, some buy and sell (for business sake) but act like for own collection.  brows.gif
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Festive season not over yet, already start pulling each other balls doh.gif .....Time to rejoice and buy more BDs thumbup.gif

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