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post Feb 8 2011, 07:45 AM

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QUOTE(Newbieeeeee @ Feb 8 2011, 06:48 AM)
how i know? i see those canon fellas next to me.. take 30 sec shot, no need to process at all. straight away review shot. i ask them what sd card they using, they tell me sandisk class 10.
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use faster mmc lo..and yeah NR off faster..

QUOTE(lwliam @ Feb 8 2011, 07:37 AM)
coz the canon fellas next to u did not have NR enabled... (or could be dont even have NR *larikkkkk*)
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we do have NR tongue.gif and even with NR on, we can process faster mah biggrin.gif biggrin.gif biggrin.gif
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tony, using of faster or slower card doesnt effect the processing much. what the NR does is that it takes another exposure of the same duration, then subtracts the noise from the 2nd 'blank' exposure from the 1st exposure, hence the 'twice as long' from start to finish.
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QUOTE(albnok @ Feb 8 2011, 02:22 AM)
Codyx: If you turn off SteadyShot, it will last as long as any other dSLR shooting video.

puppydogpoo: Yes, you can turn off Long Exposure NR on the NEX bodies. I tried in A mode. However in iAuto, the option is On and cannot be disabled.

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QUOTE(Newbieeeeee @ Feb 8 2011, 06:48 AM)
how i know? i see those canon fellas next to me.. take 30 sec shot, no need to process at all. straight away review shot. i ask them what sd card they using, they tell me sandisk class 10.
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how you know?can ask maa...malu bertanya,sesat masuk haiway derr... laugh.gif
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post Feb 8 2011, 10:32 AM

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anyone can recommend me wire / wireless remote control for sony a550?
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post Feb 8 2011, 10:35 AM

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QUOTE(alex_cyw1985 @ Feb 8 2011, 10:32 AM)
anyone can recommend me wire / wireless remote control for sony a550?
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phottix cleon 2 flex.gif rclxms.gif icon_rolleyes.gif thumbup.gif


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post Feb 8 2011, 10:36 AM

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pls keep in mind, there is 2 option of NR. pls use appropriate designated name, Long Exposure NR (LENR), or High Iso NR (HINR) to avoid confusion.

even if BOTH are set to off, Basic Sensor RAW NR(A/D conversion algorithm) is always ON.

physically sensor arent build clean iso 1600, its the A/D conversion (chipset, Digic/Bionz/expeed) that does the basic cleaning(some machine disable it for burst mode).
so u will notice single shot 'may' be cleaner then shooting in burst mode. but this will do not affect your shooting speed more then a 0.5 sec differences, even shooting in RAW.

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QUOTE(ieR @ Feb 8 2011, 10:36 AM)
pls keep in mind, there is 2 option of NR. pls use appropriate designated name, Long Exposure NR (LENR), or High Iso NR (HINR) to avoid confusion.

even if BOTH are set to off, Basic Sensor RAW NR(A/D conversion algorithm) is always ON.

physically sensor arent build clean iso 1600, its the A/D conversion (chipset, Digic/Bionz/expeed) that does the basic cleaning(some machine disable it for burst mode).
so u will notice single shot 'may' be cleaner then shooting in burst mode. but this will do not affect your shooting speed more then a 0.5 sec differences, even shooting in RAW.
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wow really? didn't know that. biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(zstan @ Feb 8 2011, 10:35 AM)
phottix cleon 2  flex.gif  rclxms.gif  icon_rolleyes.gif  thumbup.gif
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i am looking at this, but not sure is it compatible, is it sony using S6 cable?
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QUOTE(albnok @ Feb 8 2011, 02:22 AM)
Codyx: If you turn off SteadyShot, it will last as long as any other dSLR shooting video.
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Oooooiicccc....now wonder somebody NEX can record so long here but mine can't even keep up 3 minutes...already tried the lowest video quality but still overheating rclxub.gif

i Though the SENSOR overheated but the SS is the main culprit??...hmmm..doesn't make sense to me hmm.gif
gonna try it again sweat.gif
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QUOTE(alex_cyw1985 @ Feb 8 2011, 10:39 AM)
i am looking at this, but not sure is it compatible, is it sony using S6 cable?
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yes it is compatible. wingster has it too. errrr.. not sure what cable is it using sorry. >_<

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QUOTE(zstan @ Feb 8 2011, 11:01 AM)
yes it is compatible. wingster  has it too. errrr.. not sure what cable is it using sorry. >_<
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how about Phottix Plato S6 for Sony ?

which 1 better?
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QUOTE(Codyx @ Feb 8 2011, 10:57 AM)
Oooooiicccc....now wonder somebody NEX can record so long here but mine can't even keep up 3 minutes...already tried the lowest video quality but still overheating rclxub.gif

i Though the SENSOR overheated but the SS is the main culprit??...hmmm..doesn't make sense to me hmm.gif
gonna try it again sweat.gif
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Eh, NEX SSS is not in body ler.. Then why still can't passed 3 mins? Mine boleh je passed 3 mins.. Full HD from my NEX-5..
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QUOTE(alex_cyw1985 @ Feb 8 2011, 11:03 AM)
how about Phottix Plato S6 for Sony ?

which 1 better?
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not sure about that..but i did a quick search..it seems that the S6 requires AAA batteries? o.O and the hotshoe is interchangeble which is useless for a sony camera..
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for phottix, when u buy a S6 type of remote, the coldshoe (not HotShoe because its not wired with eletrical contacts) will be in Sony standard shoe.

i owned the phottix cleon II S6, it is good, i dont need a high tech, overrate with massive function i dont need. i just need a cheap simple basic WL trigger. and yea, it can mount on sony hotshoe, its not the 'iso coldshoe' mount.


Added on February 8, 2011, 12:40 pm
QUOTE(zstan @ Feb 8 2011, 10:38 AM)
wow really? didn't know that.  biggrin.gif
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noticeable on A550(Exmor) at JPEG, iso3200 above in burst mode vs single shot.
but in RAW, its raw noise, the NR post processing done in PC software. u wont see the diff in RAW.

not sure on A33/55/560/580 they got modify/upgrade the bionz to able to process the high NR on iso3200above in burst or not. someone clarify for me? albnok? coz


Added on February 8, 2011, 12:43 pm* i was talking about Native NR for exmor sensor, u able to set normal or high, the high is disable in burst mode, but the high only activate after iso3200.

so basic iso100-1600, u wont get native High NR(in A/D conversion), so u wont notice anything below iso1600

but must stress that, i yet to confirm the A33/55/560/580 will have this issue.

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puppydogpoo: It could be something else - better to check in the manual. I tried turning on HDR 6.0EV, Smile Shutter, RAW+JPG, JPG only, 0.5" exposure, 2" exposure, all also still can change Long Exposure NR. The manual should tell you why it is disabled.

croomaniac: Codyx is using the A55 with SteadyShot in body hence the quicker overheat.
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QUOTE(ieR @ Feb 8 2011, 12:06 PM)
for phottix, when u buy a S6 type of remote, the coldshoe (not HotShoe because its not wired with eletrical contacts) will be in Sony standard shoe.

i owned the phottix cleon II S6, it is good, i dont need a high tech, overrate with massive function i dont need. i just need a cheap simple basic WL trigger. and yea, it can mount on sony hotshoe, its not the 'iso coldshoe' mount.


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noticeable on A550(Exmor) at JPEG, iso3200 above in burst mode vs single shot.
but in RAW, its raw noise, the NR post processing done in PC software. u wont see the diff in RAW.

not sure on A33/55/560/580 they got modify/upgrade the bionz to able to process the high NR on iso3200above in burst or not. someone clarify for me? albnok? coz


Added on February 8, 2011, 12:43 pm* i was talking about Native NR for exmor sensor, u able to set normal or high, the high is disable in burst mode, but the high only activate after iso3200.

so basic iso100-1600, u wont get native High NR(in A/D conversion), so u wont notice anything below iso1600

but must stress that, i yet to confirm the A33/55/560/580 will have this issue.
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how to check? unsure.gif
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QUOTE(albnok @ Feb 8 2011, 12:48 PM)
puppydogpoo: It could be something else - better to check in the manual. I tried turning on HDR 6.0EV, Smile Shutter, RAW+JPG, JPG only, 0.5" exposure, 2" exposure, all also still can change Long Exposure NR. The manual should tell you why it is disabled.
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I checked the manual but it didn't say anything at all useful. Maybe the explanation is in another section. Will check later or online. Thanks! smile.gif
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QUOTE(lwliam @ Feb 8 2011, 07:37 AM)
coz the canon fellas next to u did not have NR enabled... (or could be dont even have NR *larikkkkk*)
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QUOTE(puppydogpoo @ Feb 8 2011, 01:45 PM)
I checked the manual but it didn't say anything at all useful. Maybe the explanation is in another section. Will check later or online. Thanks! smile.gif
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hmm.. mine also disabled.. finding out why now..

found out.. its cuz my cam is on burst mode. doh.gif

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QUOTE(Newbieeeeee @ Feb 8 2011, 02:04 PM)
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Added on February 8, 2011, 2:07 pm

hmm.. mine also disabled.. finding out why now..

found out.. its cuz my cam is on burst mode. doh.gif
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Thanks for the info! thumbup.gif Will try it out later tonight smile.gif

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