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post Feb 7 2011, 03:09 PM

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QUOTE(epul @ Feb 7 2011, 02:55 PM)
old info 2004 to share

collins vs scorpene

really look down to Malaysian Navy
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We already aware of this. even RMN admitted it. Collins was long endurance design intended to operate alongside the US nucs. It can range as far as the Kamchatka Peninsula and back. Scorpene was design as a littoral patrol submarine design to operate in local waters. Sadly, scorpene can still imroved on the sensor suite. The Sonar is inferior to the one on Collins. But my vote goes to Oyashio and Soryu. When Soryu operational, it'll be the most technologically advance conventional sub in the world
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post Feb 7 2011, 03:15 PM

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we do not need highly offensive sub...
as we are new in submarine...
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post Feb 7 2011, 03:19 PM

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so what if their sub are more capable, we are not going to attack theirs.. the "white superiority" is still with them
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post Feb 7 2011, 03:21 PM

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QUOTE(verex @ Feb 7 2011, 03:19 PM)
so what if their sub are more capable, we are not going to attack theirs.. the "white superiority" is still with them
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is good they have a much superior sub since they are our allies...
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post Feb 7 2011, 03:23 PM

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QUOTE(kuan1234 @ Feb 6 2011, 07:49 PM)
OMG....1 vs 40 is greater than IP MAN 1 Vs 10!
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He carry a Kukri and use it. Only Donnie Yen are crazy enough to take on 40 armed robbers with a bare hand.

If I do this, The robbers family will sue me for "acting out of character".
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post Feb 7 2011, 03:24 PM

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QUOTE(epul @ Feb 7 2011, 02:55 PM)
old info 2004 to share

collins vs scorpene

really look down to Malaysian Navy
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Embarrassment of the RAN. Failures, Cost overruns, Bad hulls, Propeller rosak, software glitches and so forth.

Only 2 on active patrol due to a lack of crew members. Nobody wants to stay in a long hard tube filled with seamen for 3 months at a time.
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QUOTE(empire23 @ Feb 7 2011, 03:24 PM)
Embarrassment of the RAN. Failures, Cost overruns, Bad hulls, Propeller rosak, software glitches and so forth.

Only 2 on active patrol due to a lack of crew members. Nobody wants to stay in a long hard tube filled with seamen for 3 months at a time.
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I lol at the bolded part
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QUOTE(empire23 @ Feb 7 2011, 03:24 PM)
Embarrassment of the RAN. Failures, Cost overruns, Bad hulls, Propeller rosak, software glitches and so forth.

Only 2 on active patrol due to a lack of crew members. Nobody wants to stay in a long hard tube filled with seamen for 3 months at a time.
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wow dint know it phailed so badly... sweat.gif
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post Feb 7 2011, 03:35 PM

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In the forum did mention our sub will become thai aircraft carrier
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post Feb 7 2011, 03:40 PM

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QUOTE(epul @ Feb 7 2011, 03:35 PM)
In the forum did mention our sub will become thai aircraft carrier
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karma is hitting them back as empire say

QUOTE(empire23 @ Feb 7 2011, 03:24 PM)
Only 2 on active patrol due to a lack of crew members. Nobody wants to stay in a long hard tube filled with seamen for 3 months at a time.
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QUOTE(yinchet @ Feb 7 2011, 03:31 PM)
wow dint know it phailed so badly... sweat.gif
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They're working now, at a 2000 cost of 7 billion Australian Dollars for 10 subs. 700 million AUD each (adjusted to current inflation rate that's 1 billion AUD each), at the current exchange 3.1 billion ringgit each.

Just as they worked out the tech kinks, people just dropped the navy in favour of the booming private sector. lawl.
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QUOTE(empire23 @ Feb 7 2011, 03:44 PM)
They're working now, at a 2000 cost of 7 billion Australian Dollars for 10 subs. 700 million AUD each (adjusted to current inflation rate that's 1 billion AUD each), at the current exchange 3.1 billion ringgit each.

Just as they worked out the tech kinks, people just dropped the navy in favour of the booming private sector. lawl.
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Maybe they'll open up Military service to the immigrants as a shortcut to Australian citizenship, just like the American does.
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Maybe they'll open up Military service to the immigrants as a shortcut to Australian citizenship, just like the American does.
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It is already open. To those will pre-existing military skills, you can join on arrival. Immediate offer of citizenship upon completion of screening and so forth.

For crucial skills (medical, engineering, aviation) but with no prior military experience you can join with a PR. Citizenship in 3 months upon join date.

For no skills, you have to wait till you get citizenship. Which takes 2 years of living with a legal visa and 1 year with a PR visa.
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QUOTE(empire23 @ Feb 7 2011, 04:04 PM)
It is already open. To those will pre-existing military skills, you can join on arrival. Immediate offer of citizenship upon completion of screening and so forth.

For crucial skills (medical, engineering, aviation) but with no prior military experience you can join with a PR. Citizenship in 3 months upon join date.

For no skills, you have to wait till you get citizenship. Which takes 2 years of living with a legal visa and 1 year with a PR visa.
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cipet like this also can

but i'm to coward to face military harsh training regiment whistling.gif
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wat about very very rich fag?? can get Immediate offer of citizenship??
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QUOTE(ichi_24 @ Feb 7 2011, 04:08 PM)
cipet like this also can

but i'm to coward to face military harsh training regiment whistling.gif
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Australia has a basic idea on how to attract people here, giving priority to those with skills. You think SG good at taking skills? SG still receives the shit workers Malaysia produces lol.

Aussies are proud of their military, our hari pahlawan nobody gief a rats ass. Here people wake up for Dawn service on ANZAC day, from random old people to young kids.


Added on February 7, 2011, 4:15 pm
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wat about very very rich fag?? can get  Immediate offer of citizenship??
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Nope. Only PR at best. And you still have to wait 3 years.



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Civil Resources in action: Malaysia launches Operasi Piramid (Ops Piramid, Operation Pyramid) to airlift Malaysian citizens from Egypt

Malaysia's largest strategic airlift operation, codenamed Operasi Piramid (Operation Pyramid), is the angel of mercy which is flying Malaysians to safety from troubled Egypt.

Ops Pyramid demonstrates the ability of Malaysian authorities to rapidly plan, mobilise and deploy civil-military resources for a national effort, at short notice, with no rehearsal and at long range.

That the operation is taking place five time zones, some 7,400 km from its main support area in Kuala Lumpur and demands that flight schedules tie in with Malaysian Armed Forces (Angkatan Tentera Malaysia; ATM) ground support elements in Egypt illustrates the complexity of Ops Pyramid.

The operation's mission planners have on call three TUDM C-130 Hercules medium-lift transports, a pair of Malaysia Airlines (MAS) B-747 jumbos and an AirAsia A330 airliner. These planes are tasked to form an airbridge from Egypt to a forward staging area in the Saudi Arabian city of Jeddah, where the Malaysians will be flown to Kuala Lumpur.

In addition, the MISC vessel, Bunga Mas 5, now on Q ship duty in the Gulf of Aden as pirate bait, has been retasked for Ops Pyramid. The converted merchant ship, with TLDM special forces elements embarked, will stage out of the Egyptian port city of Alexandria.

The operation makes a compelling case for anyone who underestimates Malaysia's ability to harness its civil resources. Although it is premature to dub the operation a resounding success, early indicators point to a positive start.

In particular:
1. The Malaysian Defence Ministry (KEMENTAH) and Markas Angkatan Tentera Malaysia (Malaysian Armed Forces HQ) launched Ops Pyramid on 2 Feb'2011 with no funding. Money apparently came from Malaysia's National Security Council.

2. Wisma Putra (Malaysian Foreign Ministry) and TUDM air operations planners were successful in negotiating overflight clearance over eight countries for the C-130s. There were also issues over visas for the flight crew and other bureaucratic hurdles, which were subsequently sorted out.

3. Inclusion of Malaysian Army religious teachers from Kor AGama Angkatan Tentera (KAGAT) and ATM medical personnel to muster and roster Malaysia's citizens for the airlift is a nod to Malaysia's understanding of the principles behind sound civil-military relations (CMR). The air evacuation is a complex task involving a passenger manifest totalling some 10,000-plus Malaysians, drawn to air hubs in Alexandria and Cairo amid traffic chaos and civil disorder in ancient cities which, even in peacetime, are not exactly models for traffic planning. In addition, the Malaysians in Egypt will probably turn up in no particular order and in varying states of distress. The passengers will need to be triaged, with the most pressing cases receiving priority seats, and family/student groups may need to be airlifted as a group to preserve some form of organisational cohesiveness.

4. No less important is the contribution of mission planners in the Saudi city of Jeddah, which is the transit point before Malaysians are flown home. TUDM air operations planners are working round-the-clock to ensure the airbridge can be sustained with fuel, fresh water and flight crews who are adequately rested.

5 It is likely, and prudent considering the volatile situation in Cairo, that Ops Pyramid packs a drawer plan to ratchet up security should central authority collapse in Egypt and airports there descend into chaos.

6. As Ops Pyramid gains traction, the growing number of evacuees in Jeddah demands close coordination to track every single person before assigning them follow-on flights to the Federation. Some 160 ATM personnel from TUDM and the Malaysian Army are forward deployed in Jeddah for this task.

7. The media plan for Ops Pyramid has ensured that Malaysia's Rakyat back home receive timely updates on the mission. National media embedded with the Ops Pyramid team in Jeddah provide on-the-spot coverage that has dominated Malaysian TV coverage during the long Chinese New Year weekend - usually a dry spell for hard news. The professionalism and operational readiness demonstrated by ATM personnel in this unprecedented recall and deployment of Malaysia's civil resources is a great advertisement for KEMENTAH/ATM recruiters.

8. Lessons learnt from Ops Pyramid are likely to reinforce the Federation's ability to plan, mount and support an airbridge between East and West Malaysia using TUDM transports and civilian airliners. That such experience gives ATM planners the ability to surge its forces in either theatre goes without saying. It is worth remembering that long-range TUDM fighters like the SU-30MKMs have the reach and endurance to prevent foreign forces from interfering with Malaysia's airbridge over the South China Sea.

All the best to Ops Pyramid personnel. Ta'at Setia.

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and there is still ungrateful bast**d in Malaysia who condemning our Armed Forces
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QUOTE(atreyuangel @ Feb 7 2011, 04:49 PM)
and there is still ungrateful bast**d in Malaysia who condemning our Armed Forces
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depa suma tahu cara beli kapalterbang, beli kapal, beli MBT.. bagi aja duit kat depa yang hebat sangat sebut harga ni... depa boleh belikan murah murah....
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QUOTE(verex @ Feb 7 2011, 04:54 PM)
depa suma tahu cara beli kapalterbang, beli kapal, beli MBT.. bagi aja duit kat depa yang hebat sangat sebut harga ni... depa boleh belikan murah murah....
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mungkin yang komplen bebanyak ni ingat beli alatan perang main hantar quotation memanjang kat supplier

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QUOTE(empire23 @ Feb 7 2011, 04:13 PM)
Australia has a basic idea on how to attract people here, giving priority to those with skills. You think SG good at taking skills? SG still receives the shit workers Malaysia produces lol.

Aussies are proud of their military, our hari pahlawan nobody gief a rats ass. Here people wake up for Dawn service on ANZAC day, from random old people to young kids.


Added on February 7, 2011, 4:15 pm

Nope. Only PR at best. And you still have to wait 3 years.
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i see i see

they are very proud when it comes to their army

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