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post Jan 31 2011, 09:37 PM

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QUOTE(FLampard @ Jan 30 2011, 11:36 PM)
for first question, i mean "How"..

how does a fighter knows hes being locked? the lock system is based in infra red system release by the heat of the jet right?
uhhhh nvm i use wikipedia liao.
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Radar Lock can be detected. how? here how it is; Radar have two mode of operation. scanning mode and tracking mode.

in scanning mode, the radar seeker head swerve left and right illuminating everything in the fighter's forward arc. in this mode, any objects within the radar arc were illuminated periodically. it's good enough to give you the tactical picture, but not accurate enough to guide a weapon.

Then there's tracking mode. in this mode the radar seeker head point on a specific target. in tracking mode, the radar can only detect and track one target and the radar seeker head will continuously point on the tracked target and follow it wherever it goes until the pilot break the lock (there's Track-While-Scan, but that's beyond most of you and i'm too lazy to explain it).

here's how pilot know they were being locked. before lock-on, the radar warning receiver will detect the radar in pulses as the radar on the enemy fighter scan left and right periodically. Whether the radar wave that's bounce of your fighter was strong enough for the enemy radar to detect, you will never know. that mean's you know there's a radar pointed at your aircraft but you don't know wether it detect you or not. When the enemy radar lock on you, the radar warning receiver will give a long continuous tone like a buzzer. That's because the radar seeker head no longer swerve left and right but instead it pointed at your position and will stay with you wherever you fly.

There's no fully reliable way to detect a Heat seeking missile. recently, the american have developed a Missile approach warning system. it combine a heat sensor and a series of milimetric wave radar systems positioned throughout the airframe. The heat sensor will detect the plume from missile rocket motor and the milimetric wave radar will then track the missile as it approach the target. Not sure how effective the system is.

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Currently, there is no technology that can detect IR homing missiles. This is mostly done by visual and if detected early enough, can be defeated by deploying flares, some fancy maneuvers and luck. There are IR jammers technology which basically tries to overwhelm the missile's homing sensors by projecting an intense IR image. Most modern IR homing missiles have been designed to actually adapt and track this image instead. Which basically means that the IR jammer actually helps with tracking the target.


IR jammer originally is a system that transmit a pulses of IR emission. it has something to do with the early IR missile seeker which involve a rotating rectangular mirror. if i were to explain to you how this type of missile seeker work, it'll take several pages of article which i'm to lazy to write and you all too lazy to read. suffice to say that when IR seeker are not centre on target, it'll get pulse IR emission from target and when it center on target it'll get a continous IR emission from the target. IR jammer use the IR pulses to fool the Missile seeker into thinking it's not centre on target yet. But as the IR seeker are moving from traditional "Mirror Base Single Element" into more advance "CCD Base Multi-Elements", the pulse jammer are no longer effective. The laser jammer design to overwhelm the seeker only serve to give the missile extra IR energy for the missile to lock on to.

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post Jan 31 2011, 10:00 PM

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QUOTE(zimhibikie @ Jan 31 2011, 09:55 PM)
We dun need dedicated attack heli if we have a good air defense system. Even USAF Apaches were grounded during the Kosovo campign due to the Serbs good air defense system. Therefore, we should invest more on mobile air defense system like the Tunguska or Tor M1
If PR dun whine, we'll end up over-priced military equipments. Mindef is a lubok for those cronies and JPs Inc.
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I disagree. Dedicated attack helicopter are Indispensible in a modern highly mobile battlefield. even a few of this may influence the outcome of a battle.
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post Feb 1 2011, 08:48 AM

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QUOTE(alaskanbunny @ Jan 31 2011, 11:17 PM)
helis? anti-matter rifle can take them down right?
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You need a lucky shot to bring down the attack heli with those. It's not just you have to hit a rapidly moving target, but attack heli have armored cockpit, armored glass and a whole set of redundant systems. you have better chance with HMG.
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post Feb 1 2011, 10:04 AM

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QUOTE(epul @ Feb 1 2011, 09:01 AM)
old news
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An Iraqi man waves his AK-47 rifle in front of an Apache military helicopter in the Hindiya district, 120 km south-west of Baghdad. Iraq says the chopper was shot down by farmers. Photo: Reuters thumbup.gif  thumbup.gif
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This one was hit by a manpad. Did its job.
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In both cases, the helo was able to land safely even after such a severe damage. The one the farmer shot down, notice there's no superficial damage to it. i suspected that the bullet hit something that light up the warning light in a cockpit.

Also you should add this.

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post Feb 2 2011, 11:20 PM

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QUOTE(heavyduty @ Feb 2 2011, 11:07 PM)
he gets a badge and beret every ggk trooper shed tears and blood to get by being najib's drinking buddy before he was PM
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Bijan also got it too when he's a Defence Minister, even Mahathir got it.
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post Feb 7 2011, 03:09 PM

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QUOTE(epul @ Feb 7 2011, 02:55 PM)
old info 2004 to share

collins vs scorpene

really look down to Malaysian Navy
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We already aware of this. even RMN admitted it. Collins was long endurance design intended to operate alongside the US nucs. It can range as far as the Kamchatka Peninsula and back. Scorpene was design as a littoral patrol submarine design to operate in local waters. Sadly, scorpene can still imroved on the sensor suite. The Sonar is inferior to the one on Collins. But my vote goes to Oyashio and Soryu. When Soryu operational, it'll be the most technologically advance conventional sub in the world
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QUOTE(kuan1234 @ Feb 6 2011, 07:49 PM)
OMG....1 vs 40 is greater than IP MAN 1 Vs 10!
Salute him !
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He carry a Kukri and use it. Only Donnie Yen are crazy enough to take on 40 armed robbers with a bare hand.

If I do this, The robbers family will sue me for "acting out of character".
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QUOTE(empire23 @ Feb 7 2011, 03:44 PM)
They're working now, at a 2000 cost of 7 billion Australian Dollars for 10 subs. 700 million AUD each (adjusted to current inflation rate that's 1 billion AUD each), at the current exchange 3.1 billion ringgit each.

Just as they worked out the tech kinks, people just dropped the navy in favour of the booming private sector. lawl.
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Maybe they'll open up Military service to the immigrants as a shortcut to Australian citizenship, just like the American does.
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post Feb 9 2011, 05:09 PM

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QUOTE(lulz @ Feb 9 2011, 04:43 PM)
india gonna have a rojak  air assets if they choose western plane. Why they dont add more of the su30MKI ?
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I heard they suffered severe problems with russians spare and replacement parts. often, russians refurbished the used parts and then branded it as new.
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QUOTE(lulz @ Feb 9 2011, 05:15 PM)
i thought they co-produce (or licensed build ?) those mki in India right ? maybe they just assemble and use more advance parts from russia. where the russian give them bad parts.
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even if they licence build, many parts are still need to be imported from Russia, like engines and radar.
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Memoir by General Saad El-Shazly ex commander-in-chief of the Egyptian Army during 1973 October War.

http://egyptianchronicles.freewebsitehosti...singFihris.html

I was amazed at seeing how Anwar Sadat sabotage his own country for his own end. The best army led by the best generals, are destroyed by their own incompetent dictator.

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post Feb 10 2011, 02:30 PM

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QUOTE(wanvadder @ Feb 10 2011, 01:50 PM)
There is an intresting theory on how come all of Egypt ruler comes from the armed forces.
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Military are the only real power in the ME. whoever command the loyalty of the army will have the command of the entire nation. every arab prince spend sometimes in the Military Academy with intention of courting the loyalty of the military.

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QUOTE(atreyuangel @ Feb 10 2011, 02:50 PM)
Cop shoots dead man who ran amok
By SARBAN SINGH
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SEREMBAN: Police shot dead a 31-year-old man who had ran amok and savagely attacked a policeman in a house in Taman Cempaka in Bahau.

The man, believed to be mentally disturbed, had earlier slashed the police sergeant several times on his head, chin and shoulder with a parang. The attack on Tuesday evening left Sjn Abdul Rahim Hamid, 50, with a fractured skull and several deep wounds which required stitches.

State police chief SAC Datuk Osman Salleh said another policeman at the scene had no choice but to open fire as the deceased continued to attack his colleague.

“A single shot was fired and it hit the man’s face. He died on the spot,” he told reporters.

SAC Osman said police had earlier received a call from the deceased’s mother about her son running amok.He said four policemen went to the man’s house to coax him to cool down.

“For three hours they tried to persuade the man to cool down but he refused to listen. As the policemen were about to leave the room where they had been talking, the man suddenly attacked Sjn Abdul Rahim,” he said.

He said another policeman had tried to subdue the victim with a Taser gun but it did not work.

“The sergeant could have been killed if his colleague had not acted fast and shot the amok. What happened is sad but the policemen were left with no other option as it happened so quick,” he said, adding that Sjn Abdul Rahim was sent to Jempol Hospital before being transferred to the Tuanku Ja’afar Hospital here.

On a separate matter, SAC Osman said police were trying to determine where a 37-year-old Chinese national, who was fighting for her life after being raped and assaulted, was studying. The woman, who was found unconscious by the roadside in Lukut on Friday, had entered the country on a student pass.

“We hope she will regain consciousness soon so that she can help us identify her attacker or attackers,” he said.
inb4 she was raped by a Policeman.

Man who run high on adrenalin can withstand multiple taser round. Police taser only have one shot. maybe we should also supply our police with stunstick.

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post Feb 11 2011, 08:56 AM

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Maybe we should buy 18 F/A-18E and ask US for discount on E2 or E3 as part of the package.
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QUOTE(yinchet @ Feb 11 2011, 09:17 AM)
good suggestion...
but can it intergrate wit our ciksu??
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depend on what kind of datalink our MKM use. Russian datalink or french.
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QUOTE(wanvadder @ Feb 11 2011, 03:25 PM)
» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «


Anybody got the continuation of the story?
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what's the title of this book?
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post Feb 16 2011, 09:32 AM

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Strange though that India, a democracy, can lag behind Communist China economically.

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They are busy waxing their carrots for Pakistan might come with a superior force against them.


India conventional military outnumbered and outgunned Pakistan in almost everything.

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QUOTE(ayanami_tard @ Feb 16 2011, 12:48 PM)
i was hoping for BUK-M1-2 or MICA

gotta walk,then jog, and then run
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We got KS-1A right? that should've covered medium range.
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QUOTE(Racerx @ Feb 17 2011, 02:41 AM)
imo that shows that both PKR and PAS saw that there's not much to complain about the project now isn't it?
sometimes i wonder why people just argue for the sake of arguing... shakehead.gif

If let's say Tony Pua first asked for more details before lambasting then it shows he is indeed better than them.
The way he's doing it now for the 2nd time after the IFV=MBT thing doesn't bode well for him imo....
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I'm glad he complain though. Sure make Tony Pua look stupid but it kept the government from freely swindling taxpayers money.
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I got some unconfirmed info from a friend. those 3 guys behind the pirates are not PASKAL member. they are just stand-in actor. Don't know where they came from. maybe a ship crew.

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