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Photography The Official Nikon Discussion thread V4, Anticipating D700 replacement !

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post Jan 25 2011, 08:38 AM

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QUOTE(gnome @ Jan 25 2011, 12:35 AM)
You guys buying lens according to your needs or based on what celciuz using? blink.gif
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What make you feel that?

I tot i just giving him the idea of how 35mm and 50mm look ><" . I am not based on what celciuz using.
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post Jan 25 2011, 04:28 PM

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QUOTE(jerrychoo2004 @ Jan 25 2011, 02:12 PM)
y i not able to post from flickr to here? i got the following error

You are not allowed to use that image extension on this board. A valid format is: http://www.domain.com/picture.gif, an invalid format is: http://www.domain.com/picture.one.gif
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Hope this help you. I google for you dont know whether work for you or not since i dont have flickr

http://www.flickr.com/help/forum/33535/?search=spouter

QUOTE(Kent3888 @ Jan 25 2011, 01:18 PM)
If based on what celciuz using we will b dead broke..... 6k+7k+4.5k+4k =?? icon_question.gif
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post Jan 25 2011, 05:33 PM

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I use 50mm 1.8 for Food photography in my nikon d3100 because food wont move mah easy =D

Get 50mm 1.4g lo , as if u wan to upgrade to FX soon , still applicable , good in FX

QUOTE(gnome @ Jan 25 2011, 04:56 PM)
^^ 50mm F1.8 is cheaper rolleyes.gif  tongue.gif

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Before going to war must update facebook first laugh.gif
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Nice pic with the story behind hahaha LOL , update im going to war in fb before start lol

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post Jan 25 2011, 06:37 PM

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QUOTE(skycrawler @ Jan 25 2011, 06:31 PM)
Hi, im really love DSLR and I want 2 buy Nikon. Now funding for Nikon D90 coz there are 3 of my frens using Nikon 1 D60 n 2 D90..so, I will choose nikon over Canon n lame alpha laugh.gif nod.gif ..Im pretty noob about dis DSLR thing, so, mind telling me wat is aperture,shutter speed n ISO? When I hav to change them?
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Oh Manual Book Got ! Read yourself. Google unker also got

Please Dont say Alpha LAME. Can you produce a DSLR ? You cant right? So dont say lame.

I no offense you just want you bear in your mind , learn to respect lar. You say what camera suck lame go ahead but dont say in forum lar , later other forumer see liao later beh song start flame , then ma fan. Cari pasal betul lo you . shakehead.gif

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post Jan 25 2011, 11:41 PM

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What to check when buying a new len? ?

I google it , but i cannot find any answers , Google showed how to check when buying "USED" len or gear


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post Jan 25 2011, 11:48 PM

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QUOTE(aldosoesilo @ Jan 25 2011, 11:43 PM)
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front and back focusing problem using focusing chart. sharpness <- scare you kena lemon copy.
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QUOTE(KTCY @ Jan 25 2011, 11:43 PM)
check the glass, check the focus, using focus chart.
Check the outer, scratch etc.

Most important should be the glass. Fungus, dust etc !
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Im buying nikkor len . But i dont have my DSLR here , left at hometown. ><" , i try to borrow the camera to test from the camera shop

1. Check the warranty.
2. Check the Glass (Glass inside?)
3. Check the focus
4. Using focus chart (Wonder they provided or not)
5. Check the outer
6. Check the scratch

Any more beside what KTCY and aldo said.

Thank to you two anyway
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post Jan 26 2011, 12:01 AM

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QUOTE(pikipiki @ Jan 25 2011, 11:54 PM)
You can check everything and find the lens in mint condition, but without your own dslr you can never know whether it is in good condition for your camera. The 'mint' condition lens might have back or front focus mount on your camera but not with the shop's. So it is not advisable to test without your very own camera when buying a lens.
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QUOTE(aldosoesilo @ Jan 25 2011, 11:56 PM)
you can get the focusing chart on google.
and I suggest you to test with your very own camera.
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Yeah i got a PDF focus chart but dun know how to use , i will try to read how to use . As need 45 degree and alot ><"

Alright thanks then i tell the tauke i wont get the len first bah , wait back hometown then go penang get one
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post Jan 26 2011, 01:18 AM

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QUOTE(pikipiki @ Jan 26 2011, 12:18 AM)
Do the battery test for focus too I would suggest in case you can't get the focus chart right. Battery test is easier to do and read too. Just place 3 battery side by side, then move the left battery slightly to the back and the right slightly to the front. Place your camera directly in front of the middle battery on focus on it. Either left or right battery is sharper meaning you got back or front focus. Try it out. AA battery will. nod.gif
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You mean

is like

-----Battery 1--------
-------Battery 2--------
-------- Battery 3--------

am i correct illustrate what you mean?

Can do like

How if line them in 3 rows

Battery1
Battery2
Battery3


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post Jan 26 2011, 08:13 AM

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QUOTE(pikipiki @ Jan 26 2011, 01:44 AM)
---(batt 1)---
-------------(batt 2)---
------------------------(batt 3)---
Oops it doesnt show . LOL wait lemme edit it. Like this. LOL but slight closer as in just half out. Meaning the front of batt 1 is about parallel to the middle point of batt 2.

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Added on January 26, 2011, 1:49 amDo 5 batteries to see the result clearly. smile.gif
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Thanks you very much !!

And if got focus chart , izzit a must to shoot at 45 degree at the focus test chart?

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post Jan 26 2011, 12:03 PM

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QUOTE(Bliz @ Jan 26 2011, 08:42 AM)
The battery test is quite accurate itself, but for more precise results, always use the focus chart and shoot at 45 degree(measure with ruler to make sure that it's really 45degree  tongue.gif )
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Hahahaha, this is what i plan to do But got other better way lar.. Can i agak agak 45 degree can d.

QUOTE(faareast @ Jan 26 2011, 10:32 AM)
for the battery test, is there any specific setting to use? like aperture must be bla2... and so on?


Added on January 26, 2011, 10:33 am

its there.... i remember i read it...
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Wide up your aperture. let say the maximum aperture is 1.8 then adjust it to f/1.8 , Which mean set ur camera to Aperture Priority mode.
Set the Autofocus system to the AF-S
Set the AF-Area mode to Single Area
Make sure your focus point is at center. I mean the red dot in viewfinder.
Metering mode , any mode will do
But betetr if you got tripod lar make it 45 degree then focus on your focus test chart.

This friday try go penang see and test how.

http://focustestchart.com/chart.html

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post Jan 26 2011, 02:22 PM

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QUOTE(pikipiki @ Jan 26 2011, 02:01 PM)
But problem with that 45 degree is that lens with maximum aperture 3.5 above give you result that is very hard to read whether there is any front or back focusing.

Also, 1.8 aperture sometimes can give you soft image thus it is even harder to tell about the focus issue.

Try to do the battery test if you find yourself unable to judge the focus problem.  smile.gif
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Alright thanks bro . Thanks alot. See this fri or sat i try to post up my test , then need you to help me judge haha blush.gif blush.gif

QUOTE(nicky1112001 @ Jan 26 2011, 12:55 PM)
AF-S DX NIKKOR 35mm f/1.8G,can i sue that for my d3000?how this lens??ok?
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Yes it can autofocus on D3000 which does not have built in motor inside. Good for DX format.
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post Jan 27 2011, 11:43 AM

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QUOTE(Andy214 @ Jan 27 2011, 01:04 AM)
If you shoot raw, your raw file will have none of those settings applied. The first thing you will notice if you do shoot raw is... there is NO NOISE REDUCTION applied. So,... yea, you have more things to PP.
Nope, the bigger the aperture, the easier to know the problem. The smaller aperture will have more in focus, covers more depth, so it's harder to tell.

If you want to do proper focus test, you will need to use tripod and do serious test to know. For basic test without tripod, you can put the camera on the table, line up the batteries, or put a book with wordings 45 degrees, etc. open to the widest aperture and focus and shoot, make sure the camera and object doesn't move. Take several shots, review the pictures and see.

Example:

-|------
--|----- 
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----|---
-----|---

---C---

C = Camera
| = Batteries or other objects, or book/paper with words in 45 degrees
If you're handholding and shooting in f/1.4 or 1/1.8, you might not doing it properly where you or the camera might have moved just a little and the actual focus depth/plane changed when you press/release the shutter, resulting in inaccurate test.

If you have time, watch this video tutorial and how this guy test:
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Glad you mentioned about this !

I never know noise reduction is not applicable when shooting in RAW.

Thanks !
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post Jan 27 2011, 12:15 PM

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QUOTE(aldosoesilo @ Jan 27 2011, 11:50 AM)
That's what I doubt as well. but selling them is a very hard task.  doh.gif
anyway CY. do you think VR in range of 17-50 is a necessity?
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Try to search dpreview forum and photomalaysia see. Some said yes some said no. Ask Kent lo he is using. =D
I see Canon thread, they got discussed about it before.

Im using D3100 , but i wont get tamron 17-50 f2.8 at least for now because i like prime ><"

For wide angle i would go for 10-24mm nikkor for non-autofocus motor

For DX like d90 i would go for tokia 11-16

QUOTE(celciuz @ Jan 27 2011, 11:41 AM)
Option 1, use Tamron only. I don't think you would even use the 1855 once you get the Tamron.
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Me too . tamron 17-50 can replace you kit len d. IMO

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post Jan 27 2011, 01:56 PM

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@Aldo get non VC i get VC LOL. =D

Anyway last time the len got VR meh ?? Ppl still able to shoot right ? Somemore yours range just between 17-50mm , if telephoto that different case lar

Correct me if im wrong
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Celciuz your Hoya HD got a small "v" at the middle of the glass or not ?

I dunno why mine got , or it is normal one ?

You use lenspen to clean ?


QUOTE(dacmo @ Jan 27 2011, 03:54 PM)
Actually it's quite an improvement over the D3000 which was pretty bad IMHO. But you have to judge for yourself whether it's going to be good enough for you. For RM2500, I would recommend a 2nd hand D90 kit. There should be plenty for sale these days.
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If got 2.5k , i would go for second hand D90, got built in motor , top lcd , features
No doubt , nikon d3100 is better than d3000

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post Jan 27 2011, 07:40 PM

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QUOTE(celciuz @ Jan 27 2011, 06:14 PM)
Small V? what's that? My HD is just like a glass, what V ?
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I donno how to describe , i look through my glass , i not sure whether it got scratched or not , i got a small "v" symbol at the glass. I try to clean but it cannot disappear ><"

walao ... just now i go to camera shop and stare at the 85mm 1.4g N drool.gif drool.gif but i look at the price , i awake and "walk off".......


Added on January 27, 2011, 7:54 pm
QUOTE(leakingpipe @ Jan 27 2011, 07:29 PM)
hye there...can u all please recommend me any model as i am a newbie here...budget is around 1-2k...
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Check this

http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/1661126/+780

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post Jan 27 2011, 08:23 PM

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QUOTE(celciuz @ Jan 27 2011, 08:20 PM)
Don't think there should be a V...
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Alright thanks you. ><"


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QUOTE(bbuser91 @ Jan 27 2011, 08:23 PM)
Alright thanks you. ><"
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BTW Got warranty or not ?

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post Jan 28 2011, 09:18 AM

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QUOTE(Kent3888 @ Jan 27 2011, 08:31 PM)
I dare u challenge me with ur non-vc handheld indoor 50mm to shoot some products with words on it den u can see double image on yours  brows.gif  I can shoot at lower iso and get as sharp image, but u need to bump ur iso mayb two stops higher, so which produce cleaner image? u do the math.... don always see review, they put on tripod to do the testing, but for everyday use u don't bring ur tripod to ur dinner gathering always rite  wink.gif


Added on January 27, 2011, 8:36 pm

Sometimes my auto focus miss ler when asking ppl to help shoot =.= sipeh sienz..... AF-A auto


Added on January 27, 2011, 8:43 pm

U really need to check properly, n I don think HD is so easily scratch summore nice shape v simbol=.=
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Alright =) , see how after i clean
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QUOTE(celciuz @ Jan 28 2011, 05:38 PM)
Wow, Sandisk Extreme Pro SDHC at 45MB/s and the new Sandisk Extreme Pro CF at 100MB/s!
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YEA !!! 45MB/s while CF at 100MB/s !!! drool.gif
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post Jan 30 2011, 10:35 AM

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Oh ya guys , remember *SPOILER* when quoting .... kam sia kam sia banyak banyak

QUOTE(stsh90 @ Jan 30 2011, 12:20 AM)
Hmm will using ND filter with longer shutter speed help to enhance it? or PP can d?
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Try to guess .

I think KTCY just using long shutter speed or bulb mode gua ....


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