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post Feb 11 2011, 03:06 AM

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QUOTE(wkho555 @ Feb 10 2011, 08:59 PM)
not recommended. if u cant limit carb turbo and might over boost.
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Carburetors doesn't control the boost pressure. Its the wastegate (internal/external) dats controlling the pressure. U can set ur boost to stay @ 0.5bar even revving till 8000rpm.

For example my setup is spools @ 3000rpm, peak 1bar @ 3500rpm, stays 1bar till 7500rpm (revcut).



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post Feb 11 2011, 03:09 AM

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QUOTE(sinister_sid @ Feb 11 2011, 03:04 AM)
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got ppl do this be 4 in our 4g1X before ???
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Looooong time edi la... Those kampung peeps got no work got and turbochaged a 4G13 Carbie engine. Stock Aisin carbie summore... doh.gif After 2days carb kong, after 2months engine pecah sleep.gif
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post Feb 11 2011, 03:21 AM

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QUOTE(rozz_1291 @ Feb 11 2011, 03:09 AM)
Looooong time edi la... Those kampung peeps got no work got and turbochaged a 4G13 Carbie engine. Stock Aisin carbie summore... doh.gif  After 2days carb kong, after 2months engine pecah sleep.gif
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drive before ???
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post Feb 11 2011, 03:24 AM

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QUOTE(sinister_sid @ Feb 11 2011, 03:21 AM)
drive before ???
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Ofcuz nola... Few years back edi, by dat time oso I wuz still schooling. I oso x kenal those old2 unkers.
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post Feb 11 2011, 03:26 AM

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now i got this idea
what if i find a weber or a carb thats for 2.0 litre
get a td03 of 6a13tt
find a metal gasket
then the turbo set to 0.3 or 0.4 bar boost
fiestable anot ???? brows.gif
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post Feb 11 2011, 03:54 AM

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QUOTE(sinister_sid @ Feb 11 2011, 03:26 AM)
now i got this idea
what if i find a weber or a carb thats for 2.0 litre
get a td03 of 6a13tt
find a metal gasket
then the turbo set to 0.3 or 0.4 bar boost
fiestable anot ????  brows.gif
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If u dun mind the crazy FC.

And u might gonna encounter a few of these possibilities problem in the near future.

1~ Piston berlubang
2~ Piston magically disappear
3~ Cylinder wall damage
4~ Crankshaft jamed (tangkap crank)
5~ Conrod putus
6~ Head bengkok
7~ Driveshaft putus (very common for SagaIswara for massive torque)
8~ Piston ring/valve seal kantoi.
9~ Piston "kecut/kembang"
10~ Misfiring (massive powerloss) stock 4G13 oso can tapau.

Reason:
1~ Too Rich or too Lean at certain point
2~ Bad ignition/ignition timing.

Solution:
Convert to EFI 1st. thumbup.gif
ronzai89
post Feb 11 2011, 08:39 AM

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this ah sid BBM with ah skyw 1 ah? blink.gif

Bagus bagus got management tolong, more reliable ma, kasi convert EFI 1st laaaa, can boost longer and boost higher bra....
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post Feb 11 2011, 11:27 AM

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http://store.ledmod.com/

nice meter led light changing drool.gif drool.gif drool.gif

any sifu know where in malaysia can do this lol
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post Feb 11 2011, 01:18 PM

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QUOTE(sinister_sid @ Feb 11 2011, 02:30 AM)
yalar yalar like u meh
got deep pocket  whistling.gif
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my pocket very shallow only

QUOTE(rozz_1291 @ Feb 11 2011, 03:06 AM)
For example my setup is spools @ 3000rpm, peak 1bar @ 3500rpm, stays 1bar till 7500rpm (revcut).
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come la setel... mad.gif

QUOTE(rozz_1291 @ Feb 11 2011, 03:54 AM)
If u dun mind the crazy FC.

And u might gonna encounter a few of these possibilities problem in the near future.

1~ Piston berlubang
2~ Piston magically disappear
3~ Cylinder wall damage
4~ Crankshaft jamed (tangkap crank)
5~ Conrod putus
6~ Head bengkok
7~ Driveshaft putus (very common for SagaIswara for massive torque)
8~ Piston ring/valve seal kantoi.
9~ Piston "kecut/kembang"
10~ Misfiring (massive powerloss) stock 4G13 oso can tapau.

Reason:
1~ Too Rich or too Lean at certain point
2~ Bad ignition/ignition timing.

Solution:
Convert to EFI 1st. thumbup.gif
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pls dun sked people away laa... laugh.gif

QUOTE(ronzai89 @ Feb 11 2011, 08:39 AM)
this ah sid BBM with ah skyw 1 ah? blink.gif

Bagus bagus got management tolong, more reliable ma, kasi convert EFI 1st laaaa, can boost longer and boost higher bra....
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u wanna join??... brows.gif
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post Feb 11 2011, 01:44 PM

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QUOTE(the_catacombs @ Feb 11 2011, 01:18 PM)
u wanna join??...  brows.gif
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join wat?

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ghoss
post Feb 11 2011, 02:38 PM

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Sorry to tumpang to ask something ,

Anyone know the FC for Saga BLM / FL ??

Thanks icon_rolleyes.gif
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post Feb 11 2011, 04:58 PM

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sifu sifu there pls help....i just change a new straight flow muffler on my LMSS, vry noisy i beh tahan d.....so i wanna know is midbullet can solve this prob or silencer better? and what's the cons for both this?
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QUOTE(ghoss @ Feb 11 2011, 02:38 PM)
Sorry to tumpang to ask something ,

Anyone know the FC for Saga BLM / FL ??

Thanks icon_rolleyes.gif
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dunno... we not driving campro engines also...

QUOTE(colourblindartist @ Feb 11 2011, 04:58 PM)
sifu sifu there pls help....i just change a new straight flow muffler on my LMSS, vry noisy i beh tahan d.....so i wanna know is midbullet can solve this prob or silencer better? and what's the cons for both this?
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u should had changed s-flow muffler maa...
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post Feb 12 2011, 01:19 AM

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QUOTE(rozz_1291 @ Feb 11 2011, 02:45 AM)
VR4 finest model... AMG tuned. Itu merc punya AMG. nod.gif
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QUOTE(Peekab0o @ Feb 11 2011, 11:27 AM)
http://store.ledmod.com/

nice meter led light changing  drool.gif  drool.gif  drool.gif

any sifu know where in malaysia can do this lol
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ummm... diy? tongue.gif



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QUOTE(the_catacombs @ Feb 11 2011, 08:23 PM)
u should had changed s-flow muffler maa...
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Cuz I'm planning to change 421 extractor so I choose straight flow and I wan got exhaust vroom vroom sound oso but this is way too loud for me...sad.gif so izit silencer can reduce the loud and noisy sound?
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QUOTE(colourblindartist @ Feb 12 2011, 02:00 AM)
Cuz I'm planning to change 421 extractor so I choose straight flow and I wan got exhaust vroom vroom sound oso but this is way too loud for me...sad.gif so izit silencer can reduce the loud and noisy sound?
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center box can reduce the sound a little bit
my suggestion.. go for s flow.. relax,awek hepi rather than noisy.. your passengers also not comfortale lo
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QUOTE(colourblindartist @ Feb 12 2011, 02:00 AM)
Cuz I'm planning to change 421 extractor so I choose straight flow and I wan got exhaust vroom vroom sound oso but this is way too loud for me...sad.gif so izit silencer can reduce the loud and noisy sound?
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aftermarket s-flow also got abit vroom vroom sound one..
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QUOTE(the_catacombs @ Feb 12 2011, 02:15 AM)
aftermarket s-flow also got abit vroom vroom sound one..
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But I alrd change it just 1st day I dunwan to change to s-flow la...sad.gif silencer and midbullet is diff? The boss show me both this o...may I know which reduce the noise more?
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QUOTE(colourblindartist @ Feb 12 2011, 02:20 AM)
But I alrd change it just 1st day I dunwan to change to s-flow la...sad.gif silencer and midbullet is diff? The boss show me both this o...may I know which reduce the noise more?
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Actually LMST extractor is already 4-2-1... put so much "interference" in-between your exhaust for what purpose? Purposely want to lower your top speed or pickup?


Just my 2 sen.... Sell the straight flow silencer and get a new s-flow one....


Added on February 12, 2011, 7:21 amAnyone here have done this?

- Try to rise the compression ratio to 10.5:1 by using Hyundai Excel X1 pistons.



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post Feb 12 2011, 09:47 AM

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QUOTE(dakwan5555 @ Feb 12 2011, 07:04 AM)
Actually LMST extractor is already 4-2-1... put so much "interference" in-between your exhaust for what purpose? Purposely want to lower your top speed or pickup?
Just my 2 sen.... Sell the straight flow silencer and get a new s-flow one....


Added on February 12, 2011, 7:21 amAnyone here have done this?

- Try to rise the compression ratio to 10.5:1 by using Hyundai Excel X1 pistons.
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i read orang puteh do it
but local ppl likeskim head or last time sifu put kembara piston to raaised the cr


Added on February 12, 2011, 9:56 am
QUOTE(rozz_1291 @ Feb 11 2011, 03:54 AM)
If u dun mind the crazy FC.

And u might gonna encounter a few of these possibilities problem in the near future.

1~ Piston berlubang
2~ Piston magically disappear
3~ Cylinder wall damage
4~ Crankshaft jamed (tangkap crank)
5~ Conrod putus
6~ Head bengkok
7~ Driveshaft putus (very common for SagaIswara for massive torque)
8~ Piston ring/valve seal kantoi.
9~ Piston "kecut/kembang"
10~ Misfiring (massive powerloss) stock 4G13 oso can tapau.

Reason:
1~ Too Rich or too Lean at certain point
2~ Bad ignition/ignition timing.

Solution:
Convert to EFI 1st. thumbup.gif
*
hmm.gif
so if i put in lower compression piston like charade gti turbo to lower the cr and do a rebuild with stronger head and conrod bolt ,
beefed up the colling system
custom made a driveshaft
get a ecu just to control the ignition
still fiestable ???
how the sifu driving the white satria 4g13 bot still runing strong ???
u know how he main ah ????
yah i know he running efi

if let say play efi
which 1 efi better to bot ???
siemens,stock mmc map sensor , or kacuk 4g9 wiring and ecu ????


Added on February 12, 2011, 9:58 am
QUOTE(colourblindartist @ Feb 11 2011, 04:58 PM)
sifu sifu there pls help....i just change a new straight flow muffler on my LMSS, vry noisy i beh tahan d.....so i wanna know is midbullet can solve this prob or silencer better? and what's the cons for both this?
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if u want quite the noise u can put in either both or both
since restriction in exhaust system will generally quite the noise
but if restrition d later no more free rewing like now lo
got ppl play use ah beng muffler but scare jpj and bapak marah
so they add two mid bullet to quite down a little


Added on February 12, 2011, 9:59 am
QUOTE(ronzai89 @ Feb 11 2011, 08:39 AM)
this ah sid BBM with ah skyw 1 ah? blink.gif

Bagus bagus got management tolong, more reliable ma, kasi convert EFI 1st laaaa, can boost longer and boost higher bra....
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apa mau flex.gif


This post has been edited by sinister_sid: Feb 12 2011, 09:59 AM

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