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 LYN Proton Saga/Iswara Drivers' Forum! V23, The first Proton car in production

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post Feb 9 2011, 11:23 PM

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QUOTE(the_catacombs @ Feb 9 2011, 10:42 PM)
really AMG tuned la dewww... dry.gif
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QUOTE(sinister_sid @ Feb 9 2011, 11:23 PM)
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post Feb 10 2011, 04:58 AM

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Any sifu's here ever heard of carburetor turbocharged, and its real in fact yet running low boost .but revs to limits until out.

mostly seen in volvo's,alfa's ..issit okay to do that to 4g12,4g13,4g15?
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QUOTE(Yashiro @ Feb 10 2011, 04:58 AM)
Any sifu's here ever heard of carburetor turbocharged, and its real in fact yet running low boost .but revs to limits until out.

mostly seen in volvo's,alfa's ..issit okay to do that to 4g12,4g13,4g15?
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piston sure fall down.... laugh.gif

better dun, u'll need management to control such mod.

so, dun take da risk on Carb. get EFI, then baru turbocharge it.
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QUOTE(Yashiro @ Feb 10 2011, 04:58 AM)
Any sifu's here ever heard of carburetor turbocharged, and its real in fact yet running low boost .but revs to limits until out.

mostly seen in volvo's,alfa's ..issit okay to do that to 4g12,4g13,4g15?
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can.but different concept..... wink.gif

QUOTE(ronzai89 @ Feb 10 2011, 08:32 AM)
piston sure fall down....  laugh.gif

better dun,  u'll need management to control such mod.

so, dun take da risk on Carb. get EFI, then baru turbocharge it.
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know u EFI 4g18 wan BOT tongue.gif
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where can i get good workshop for my iswara? good price also? location KL.
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QUOTE(whiteface @ Feb 9 2011, 11:37 AM)
hello, any nice absorber to introduce for proton iswara ?
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IMP Comfort shocks.

20% stiffer than standard shocks hence still comfortable + provide good handling

I am really satisfied with it. Even those leading cars in my group when going peksan uphill and downhill, most of them using IMP shocks. Riding with them also feel terrified when taking corners but stable nevertheless biggrin.gif

Unless you willing to sacrifice comfort, then u can opt for other brands.
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QUOTE(Yashiro @ Feb 10 2011, 04:58 AM)
Any sifu's here ever heard of carburetor turbocharged, and its real in fact yet running low boost .but revs to limits until out.

mostly seen in volvo's,alfa's ..issit okay to do that to 4g12,4g13,4g15?
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It's not easy. Finding an expert in tuning performance carburetor is already a headache in Malaysia, some more you wanted to TC'ed it. Near to impossible in Malaysia.

Most of the TC kaki's will convert to eFI first then only tc.
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QUOTE(Gilbert5107 @ Feb 10 2011, 11:54 AM)
can.but different concept..... wink.gif
know u EFI 4g18 wan BOT  tongue.gif
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car belum dapat hw to BOT sad.gif
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QUOTE(ronzai89 @ Feb 10 2011, 01:02 PM)
car belum dapat hw to BOT  sad.gif
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QUOTE(Gilbert5107 @ Feb 10 2011, 04:18 PM)
saving ma..... brows.gif
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QUOTE(Yashiro @ Feb 10 2011, 04:58 AM)
Any sifu's here ever heard of carburetor turbocharged, and its real in fact yet running low boost .but revs to limits until out.

mostly seen in volvo's,alfa's ..issit okay to do that to 4g12,4g13,4g15?
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not recommended
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post Feb 10 2011, 08:59 PM

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QUOTE(Yashiro @ Feb 10 2011, 04:58 AM)
Any sifu's here ever heard of carburetor turbocharged, and its real in fact yet running low boost .but revs to limits until out.

mostly seen in volvo's,alfa's ..issit okay to do that to 4g12,4g13,4g15?
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not recommended. if u cant limit carb turbo and might over boost.
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huhu.. this month project.. new thing install at my 777... biggrin.gif hehe.. buy this muffler from somebody.. cheap.. huhu.. straight flow HKS japan motorsport.. wink.gif emm.. just want to try it.. had a nice feeling.. vrromm vromm.. hehe... just want to have some garang sound to my bby... pickup increase a lil i guess.. wink.gif FC.. not sure yet.. sure makan minyak ler after this... hehe.. vrromm. vrromm.. sory pic a lil blurry.. foncam suda tarak cantik.. smile.gif
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post Feb 10 2011, 11:18 PM

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dat one cap ayam HKS maaa...
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post Feb 11 2011, 12:10 AM

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QUOTE(the_catacombs @ Feb 10 2011, 11:18 PM)
dat one cap ayam HKS maaa...
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huhu... cap ayam pun cap ayam la bos.... sweat.gif hehehe.. just want to try.. quite loud also.. huhu.. smile.gif previusly the muffler was from honda EK... huhu.. value for money and for me.... hihihi brows.gif

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post Feb 11 2011, 02:30 AM

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QUOTE(Yashiro @ Feb 10 2011, 04:58 AM)
Any sifu's here ever heard of carburetor turbocharged, and its real in fact yet running low boost .but revs to limits until out.

mostly seen in volvo's,alfa's ..issit okay to do that to 4g12,4g13,4g15?
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can the yank and aussie like doing it nod.gif notworthy.gif
it have two ways
1 is blow thru setup that is carb are placed after the turbo's
2 is carb placed before turbo

1st setting they use is normally holley carb and 2 biasa use dcoe weber
very famous in vw beetle and ford v8 tuning scene

it use standalone ecu just to control the ingnition

but they do this biasa for weekend only
since very hard and near to imposible to tune it to have drivablitity for everyday usage

dont ask me how
i sin ka lan pandai only


Added on February 11, 2011, 2:31 am
QUOTE(the_catacombs @ Feb 10 2011, 11:18 PM)
dat one cap ayam HKS maaa...
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yalar yalar like u meh
got deep pocket whistling.gif

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QUOTE(stasis21 @ Feb 9 2011, 10:21 PM)
notworthy.gif  notworthy.gif  rclxms.gif

Is it real? or did he just tampal AMG?  tongue.gif
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VR4 finest model... AMG tuned. Itu merc punya AMG. nod.gif
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QUOTE(Yashiro @ Feb 10 2011, 04:58 AM)
Any sifu's here ever heard of carburetor turbocharged, and its real in fact yet running low boost .but revs to limits until out.

mostly seen in volvo's,alfa's ..issit okay to do that to 4g12,4g13,4g15?
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Yes it is possible to turbocharged a carbie engine but not recommended. By juz following the basic turbocharged setup like in any ordinary turbocharged engine. The differences between carbie and EFI engines are the fueling/feed system. When a turbo kicks in, the CR of the engine will become 2-3 times higher thn an ordinary N/A engine. So u gotta make sure ur fueling system feeds enuf fuel into the engine for combustion. Or else u r gonna compress hot gasses instead (Lean).

IMHO, wat u need to do if u were to turbochraged a 4G13 carbie:

1~ Small turbo.
Reason: Smaller turbo spools quicker but the powerband dies earlier @ mid range rpm.

2~ AFR "Rich"

3~ Thicker Metal head gasket.

4~ Prepare 4-5 spare carburetors.


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post Feb 11 2011, 03:04 AM

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QUOTE(rozz_1291 @ Feb 11 2011, 03:00 AM)
Yes it is possible to turbocharged a carbie engine but not recommended. By juz following the basic turbocharged setup like in any ordinary turbocharged engine. The differences between carbie and EFI engines are the fueling/feed system. When a turbo kicks in, the CR of the engine will become 2-3 times higher thn an ordinary N/A engine. So u gotta make sure ur fueling system feeds enuf fuel into the engine for combustion. Or else u r gonna compress hot gasses instead (Lean).

IMHO, wat u need to do if u were to turbochraged a 4G13 carbie:

1~ Small turbo.
Reason: Smaller turbo spools quicker but the powerband dies earlier @ mid range rpm.

2~ AFR "Rich"

3~ Thicker Metal head gasket.

4~ Prepare 4-5 spare carburetors.
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got ppl do this be 4 in our 4g1X before ???

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