yup we will have demo units... There is a rumour about something call Hippo Biscuit... anyone know about it?

I use one for monitoring and gaming... quite accurate. There are some reviews here: http://www.head-fi.org/products/beyerdynam...dphones/reviews

oh you are the lucky guy.

i shall pm you the address for postage

Oh I so jeles

yeap bro. it's saperated by colour
the Blue is Silver
Red is Copper



lol

dun like that, this is not deadly


hehe, ur level u should go straight to legato-S. =P

dun say like that...
this legato-C is cheaper version than Legato-S
cause Silver version price is higher, my original intention is to come out one higher price range, cost no object cable (Legato-S; silver), then one share similar design, similar workmanship, similar house sound with cheaper price, and slightly different sound characters, which in this case Legato-C; copper..
its different stuff at all, from what i tested in jaben and pre-test in my house for months, they are excel in different matchings. but overall my personal preference for HD650 matching, Legato-S is still better..

This post has been edited by PcWork: Aug 25 2012, 12:18 AM

isn't that an mp3 player...you hinting somethin?



was jokin.. at least you made something more affordable while still have the quality sound and attention to detail on the product...

was considering the S.. at least my wallet will be happier with a more affordable one : )

hehe.. you should try it out.. both S and C were different sounding. some setup will match better with C. some will better with S. but generally S is slightly smoother. while C is more punchy..

thanks for the slight heads up on how the respective cable sounds... i've known that the silver core cables will sound slightly brighter due to better conductance compared to copper...

but out of curiosity, even with oxygen free copper cables does the copper cables have any worry with oxidation? i've seen in the HT arena that people still try to cut and re-crimp their cables every 6or so months... to prevent oxidation to exposed parts of the cables...

definitely worth a looker...

So will pairing the iems with an amp do the trick? I'm using an s2 as well... Wanting to get xp3 and go vibe mini box amplifier

This post has been edited by Boomeraangkid: Aug 26 2012, 06:23 PM

actually, within that copper cable, it is coated with protective layer. so the cable itself won't really oxidise over time as long as its protective layer were not scratched or damaged. So, the part that possibly expose to air will be the termination location. in such, i had carefully terminate it in such a way that there's no exposed area, then the soldering pin were treated to further reduce it's chances of oxidisation.

Usually people will consider crimp plug to sound better as it doesn't have lead add in which slow down the conductivity of signal. as well add in sound coloration. But no matter how tight u crimp the plug, it can't be done in such a way that it's air tight. so every 6 months or so, if the oxidisation become serious, then they have to re-terminate it.
But this doesn't happen to soldering plug, as the lead were melted in high temperature and it can very very significantly reduce air contact to the conductor as well as the plug itself. However, how well it is executed may depend on workmanship of cable maker itself. Other than that, the quality of lead will become crucial in order to avoid the negative impact to the sound. that's why in my cable series such this legato, the lead were audiophile grade soldering lead which contain silver to reduce its negative impact to the sound. and the price for this soldering lead is about 12 times more expensive than usual soldering lead we can obtain from pasar road.

after all i do consider this factor before, that's why i go for soldering it with highest quality lead i can find, in order to avoid oxidisation, as well as getting best possible sound that i could do. of course there's still compromise. but i already try hard to get best from both world.

This post has been edited by PcWork: Aug 26 2012, 10:43 PM

For a budget set up ...that will do the trick...
Good try...
But for me...I will recommand martini + ... improve low...mids and highs...and you will.love the difference...

---

Added on August 26, 2012, 10:48 pmGreat work of pcwork...thumbs up.for your service....btw...what is the price of these cables...

Sorry that I'm quite a newbie with the cable world..but getting great information from your explanation

This post has been edited by nicholostan: Aug 26 2012, 10:48 PM

price wise you have to ask jaben.. cause they might sometime comes up with some super nice bundle price...

Thinking to get a better amp to fit the cable...
Pcwork....do you have any recommandation??

I.have no.idea about it....

so, it's most likely that the copper cable construction is similar to the copper ones where the silver is actually a core coiled around by finer strands of cable on the outer layer... that's good to know...

great technical considerations... bolsters my confidence towards your hand soldered cables

This post has been edited by butthead: Aug 27 2012, 09:34 AM

Martini is a little to big right?

as in size?

i think most of the govibe models, magnum, vest, and martini is more or less similarly sized..

you can go for hippo cricri and some of the fiio models or i think there is a govibe mini box if sizing is a concern for you.. sound might not be on par though...

I own a hippo cricri...
But is there any changes between the sound when compared with the cable provided by the hippo cricri

Better amp? Meier audio Stepdance v 2 for instance?

Oo...what does it improve ....can pm me??

that is one expensive portable isn't it... purely an amp only...

it's actually best to go audition it yourself... once someone tells you how something sounds... it gets sort of embedded in your mind and you consciously go look for those characteristics when auditioning it... this way, they sort of half-sold you the thing even before you get to analyze how it sounds on your own... sort of clouding your judgement...

not saying that walabies is wrong or un-ethically trying to coax you to buy it in any way... but it's how the process should work..

+1, buy what your ears prefer best! Not because of words by others.