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post Sep 16 2005, 12:15 AM

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QUOTE(terencetoo @ Sep 15 2005, 08:48 PM)
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Which computer shop?
Harvey norman selling $699~ super exp..
not many retailer selling such an exp speakers...nor gigaworks..

Can u recommand any shop selling in bris?
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Malaysia is selling it for around RM1.5k-RM1.6k

Sexy speaker, too bad i spend all my dope on my graphics card, have to settle for the older model.


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post Sep 16 2005, 09:49 AM

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QUOTE(kianwee @ Sep 16 2005, 02:15 AM)
Malaysia is selling it for around RM1.5k-RM1.6k

Sexy speaker, too bad i spend all my dope on my graphics card, have to settle for the older model.
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U sure Z5500 at rm 1.5~1.6k? what about Z680?

Act i read lots of review on logitech Z5500 n Z680..

Some user said that get a "Monster THX certified optical cable" for the Z5500 it works very very well.... Anyone try this setting using opitical cable? It seems Z5500 have much better sound clarity n less hiss compare to Z680... rolleyes.gif

While Z680 using RCA cable...im very confused...which one is better in terms of wire connection? huh.gif

The Z5500 still uses the old pattern computer speaekrs cable...Whereas, the Z680 uses a hi-fi wiring connection? Any ways to improved the sound system in Z680? Or any better THX RCA cables for Z680?

Seems useless to replace another 90% same specifications in Z680 n Z5500...but i might consider if the price went down..

P/s" heard Z5500 selling rm 1300 in LYP??


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post Sep 16 2005, 09:55 AM

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Ohh yeah ..

N what is the purpose connecting a opitical wire to the Controller? Is there any ways to change all my RCA cable to Opitical? ( is a bit stupid Q..) but hope it can improve the sound system of this bad boyz!!!

Here the pic of "Monster THX certified optical cable" rolleyes.gif

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post Sep 16 2005, 01:16 PM

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i connect my dvd player's sound using a canare coxial, pc-speaker = analogue and optical .. BIG difference between analogue and optical ... but my sound card is cheapo Hercules DIGIFIRE . lor
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emm...I have creative audigy2 Zs , does it work fine if i get a opitical cable connect to my Z680??
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QUOTE(terencetoo @ Sep 16 2005, 01:25 PM)
emm...I have creative audigy2 Zs , does it work fine if i get a opitical cable connect to my Z680??
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my housemate is using creative's card and gigaworks .. i notice that the system's analogue sound much better than the coaxial connection
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post Sep 16 2005, 09:31 PM

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@Computer^freak

Which computer shop?
Harvey norman selling $699~ super exp..
not many retailer selling such an exp speakers...nor gigaworks..

Can u recommand any shop selling in bris?


huhuhuhuh....how long u been in OZ ???

Harvey Norman is only for ignorant rich bastards.

Use www.staticice.com.au ...type Z-5500

You will see some Brisbane shops are selling it for $449 .
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QUOTE(Computer^freak @ Sep 16 2005, 11:31 PM)
huhuhuhuh....how long u been in OZ ???

Harvey Norman is only for ignorant rich bastards.

Use www.staticice.com.au ...type Z-5500

You will see some Brisbane shops are selling it for $449 .
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hi there.. i knwo harbey norman earn 30~50% more on the products..tongue.gif

Yeah really rich bastards only shop there.. i go harvey norman n suvey the speakers set only..n check any latest hardware.tongue.gif

i been staying here about 2 and the half yrs..what about u?

THis shop iz cheap? whistling.gif

Thanks mate! cool.gif
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Result too limited in bris...lowest is $440...
Anyway...still trying to search for more review comparing Z500 n z680.tongue.gif
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QUOTE(terencetoo @ Sep 16 2005, 09:49 AM)
U sure Z5500 at rm 1.5~1.6k? what about Z680?

Act i read lots of review on logitech Z5500 n Z680..

Some user said that get a "Monster THX certified optical cable" for the Z5500 it works very very well.... Anyone try this setting using opitical cable? It seems Z5500 have much better sound clarity n less hiss compare to Z680...  rolleyes.gif

While Z680 using RCA cable...im very confused...which one is better in terms of wire connection?  huh.gif

The Z5500 still uses the old pattern computer speaekrs cable...Whereas, the Z680 uses a hi-fi wiring connection? Any ways to improved the sound system in Z680? Or any better THX RCA cables for Z680?

Seems useless to replace another 90% same specifications in Z680 n Z5500...but i might consider if the price went down..

P/s" heard Z5500 selling rm 1300 in LYP??
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i think i can share some taughts,
first of, z80 does not use a single rca at all, only 5300 does,

680 uses screw cap to connects tha speakers and spring clip to connet to ta woofer, so for connection is pratically same as 5500, as long as its above 5300 range, its okay, just change to some decent audio cables to reduce noise and improve clarity(personal experience)

5500 IS selling about 15xx in lowyat, just check today, actually ta performance does improve alot to 680 if u do examine and listen properly, but casual listening does not really make up alot of different except for ta henfty price.

if u willing to spend on 1.5k pay Rm100 extra get a level entry home theatre set, performs much better and lots of inputs and settings, wink.gif

as for ta Hiss u mention, i call it noise ratio, most high power system have em , but mostly unnotice from a far, but i do notice ...the better the response range the lesser noise ration there is....doesnt not know if its 100 true but just my taughts,

there are ways to reduces the noise try google, but for z680 rev 1.03 the noise tis terrible newer rev 1.12 is much much better.... thumbup.gif

optical cables doesnt help much if your sources produce low digital output, any optical cable will do, i doubt u using this speakers with 2k dvd player or HD player right..... sweat.gif

hopes this help u clear up ur doubts~~ by all means z-680 is very very value or money at the moment,
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QUOTE(Hwoarang45 @ Sep 18 2005, 06:31 AM)
i think i can share some taughts,
first of, z80 does not use a single rca at all, only 5300 does,

680 uses screw cap to connects tha speakers and spring clip to connet to ta woofer, so for connection is pratically same as 5500, as long as its above 5300 range, its okay, just change to some decent audio cables to reduce noise and improve clarity(personal experience)

5500 IS selling about 15xx in lowyat, just check today, actually ta performance does improve alot to 680 if u do examine and listen properly, but casual listening does not really make up alot of different except for ta henfty price.

if u willing to spend on 1.5k pay Rm100 extra get a level entry home theatre set, performs much better and lots of inputs and settings, wink.gif

as for ta Hiss u mention, i call it noise ratio, most high power system have em , but mostly unnotice from a far, but i do notice ...the better the response range the lesser noise ration there is....doesnt not know if its 100 true but just my taughts,

there are ways to reduces the noise try google, but for z680 rev 1.03 the noise tis terrible newer rev 1.12 is much much better.... thumbup.gif

optical cables doesnt help much if your sources produce low digital output, any optical cable will do, i doubt u using this speakers with 2k dvd player or HD player right..... sweat.gif

hopes this help u clear up ur doubts~~ by all means z-680 is very very value or money at the moment,
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@Hwoarang45

Good review from u bro~

Im using my Z680 with my Laptop pair with Creative SB Zs pcmcia works very well~ Mostly i used to watch DVD's, music tat's all. I'v been trying Logitechs product since last yr...I got myself a X-620 (aus version), n tested it with my frens Z5300 n Z620 ..but Z5300 still the BEST tat time thumbup.gif

SO i got myself a higher end logitech Z680..was damn happy tat time..too bad Z5500 is out of budget...but for now...i realised many ppl using Z5500 n z680 had obsolute replace by Z5500... cry.gif

I cant really tell how big is the differences in terms of clarity n sound pump..compare to Z680 cant really test in the shop.. blush.gif

Since u said Z5500 price still range at rm1.5k~1.6...im not willing to spend such much money on slightly different specs on logitechs...but will consider for the price drop for Z5500 since less hiss (noise ratio) nad better performance on it. cool.gif

Thanks anyway fren... notworthy.gif
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post Sep 18 2005, 11:57 AM

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Hey all logi user,

mind i ask a q?

Do u guys plan to change your current speakers to Creative mega/gigaworks?
Creative gigaworks have sooo much big differences in Z5500/680?
Anyone knows what so special in gigaworks 7.1 compare to Z5500 (not the extra sets) smile.gif

Thanks!

p/s: abit off topic.. rolleyes.gif
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QUOTE(terencetoo @ Sep 18 2005, 11:57 AM)
Hey all logi user,

mind i ask a q?

Do u guys plan to change your current speakers to Creative mega/gigaworks?
Creative gigaworks have sooo much big differences in Z5500/680?
Anyone knows what so special in gigaworks 7.1 compare to Z5500 (not the extra sets) smile.gif

Thanks!

p/s: abit off topic.. rolleyes.gif
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sure, no prob

yes, i planned and i changed a few months ago.
havent heard the 5500 or 680 before, but from what the reviewers and forumers at klipsch say, the 5500/680 is no where near the gigaworks/promedia ultra [PMU].
the gigaworks and PMU both have tweeters, the 5500/680 uses a single driver for everything. thats not a bad thing, but it can never be as good as actual tweeters.
one thing is for sure: the 5500 doesnt not have the clarity nor the detail that both the gigaworks and PMU have.
also, the subs of the PMU and gigaworks go lower than the 5500. theyre more subtle. basshead or not, i believe the bass that the 5500/680/5300 provide is NOT bass, its just noise. good bass doesnt need to come in huge quantities, small and powerful ones are enough. the 10" driver in the 5500's bass although looks to be the most powerful of the 3 [5500, PMU, gigaworks], it cannot go as low and it is tuned to the upper frequencies, thus making lots of booom bannggg and never that deep tight punch.

youre always welcomed!

nah, this is becoming/or is a logitech fan thread already, i guess the mods wont mind tongue.gif
theyve just dumped all the logitech fans into one thread LOL laugh.gif

i hope by mentioning the K L I P S C H promedia ultra i did not inject more interest in K L I P S C H and did not recruit more worshipers of K L I P S C H laugh.gif doh.gif


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QUOTE(Silon @ Sep 18 2005, 03:27 PM)
sure, no prob

yes, i planned and i changed a few months ago.
havent heard the 5500 or 680 before, but from what the reviewers and forumers at klipsch say, the 5500/680 is no where near the gigaworks/promedia ultra [PMU].
the gigaworks and PMU both have tweeters, the 5500/680 uses a single driver for everything. thats not a bad thing, but it can never be as good as actual tweeters.
one thing is for sure: the 5500 doesnt not have the clarity nor the detail that both the gigaworks and PMU have.
also, the subs of the PMU and gigaworks go lower than the 5500. theyre more subtle. basshead or not, i believe the bass that the 5500/680/5300 provide is NOT bass, its just noise. good bass doesnt need to come in huge quantities, small and powerful ones are enough. the 10" driver in the 5500's bass although looks to be the most powerful of the 3 [5500, PMU, gigaworks], it cannot go as low and it is tuned to the upper frequencies, thus making lots of booom bannggg and never that deep tight punch.

youre always welcomed!

nah, this is becoming/or is a logitech fan thread already, i guess the mods wont mind tongue.gif
theyve just dumped all the logitech fans into one thread LOL laugh.gif

i hope by mentioning the K L I P S C H promedia ultra i did not inject more interest in K L I P S C H and did not recruit more worshipers of K L I P S C H  laugh.gif  doh.gif
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Haha thanks Silon very good review for me too thumbup.gif

Fist of all will u regret on getting Creative product or the S700/s750?
So with build in tweeters have much better clarity compare to Z5500...did u really try both set of speakers? or is *just* a slightly clarity differents between them?

How's the sub for creative gigaworks? how big is the sub? 10" or 8" ?Iz as big as Z5500 sub (height & weight). I admit that logitech products have very heavy boomy pump..even though sometimes i cant even take it..i feel very dizzy while listening to *black eye peas-where is the love* wink.gif

What about the creative gigaworks speakers *sets*? iz as big as Z5500? in terms of design n sound system? which sets u prefer? the logi Z5500 or s750? coz i need some information b4 i decide to upgrade either Z5500 or gigaworks s750 (exp speakers) whistling.gif

Too bad..creative doesn't have the LCD contral pod and the build in decoder if u 1 2 hook up to something else .. blush.gif Dono y since i change to logitech product the only thing i really like is the control pod..looks very high class... wub.gif ohh yeah silon if u free can u snap the pic of the volume control for me to c? thanks if u can notworthy.gif

BTW...u have very good and exp multimedia speakers bro~ hehe thumbup.gif

Thanks for everyting~~ rolleyes.gif

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QUOTE(terencetoo @ Sep 18 2005, 04:09 PM)
Haha thanks Silon very good review for me too thumbup.gif

Fist of all will u regret on getting Creative product or the S700/s750?
So with build in tweeters have much better clarity compare to Z5500...did u really try both set of speakers? or is *just* a slightly clarity differents between them?

How's the sub for creative gigaworks? how big is the sub? 10" or 8" ?Iz as big as Z5500 sub (height & weight). I admit that logitech products have very heavy boomy pump..even though sometimes i cant even take it..i feel very dizzy while listening to *black eye peas-where is the love*  wink.gif

What about the creative gigaworks speakers *sets*? iz as big as Z5500? in terms of design n sound system? which sets u prefer? the logi Z5500 or s750? coz i need some information b4 i decide to upgrade either Z5500 or gigaworks s750 (exp speakers)  whistling.gif

Too bad..creative doesn't have the LCD contral pod and the build in decoder if u 1 2 hook up to something else .. blush.gif  Dono y since i change to logitech product the only thing i really like is the control pod..looks very high class... wub.gif  ohh yeah silon if u free can u snap the pic of the volume control for me to c? thanks if u can notworthy.gif

BTW...u have very good and exp multimedia speakers bro~ hehe thumbup.gif

Thanks for everyting~~ rolleyes.gif
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no probs bro. just sharing the weeks and weeks of reading reviews and opinions before buying... i must say, i never bought a single item that cost so much before laugh.gif
-its even more than my graphics card or CPU! laugh.gif

no regrets. changed from z5300. no regrets whatsoever, but then again, i love my music very much. it might be different for someone else laugh.gif

the sub is very small [suprisingly], it is the size (and weight) of the z5300's sub. i presume its smaller than the z680's or the 5500s? the driver is an 8incher. though it aint as 'powerful' as the 5500's sub, it sure goes lower and tighter.

it should be as big if not bigger than the 5500s/680s satellites. as i said, i havent heard the 5500 before. i didnt even think of the 5500 because they were worse sounding than the gigaworks and to make matters worse, for only 300bucks, i could get 2 more satellites and a much better sounding system. i didnt even think of the 5500 laugh.gif
but then again, thats just me. i dont really care about the control pod's looks and i dont have any use for its internal decoder....

if you really go around reading, you will find that the real battle is between the gigaworks and the PMU. the 5500 just trails behind them.

here is the pic:
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im sorry about the pic quality, the irony being that i bought the gigaworks before a digicam laugh.gif

believe me, the controls are just plain sh!tty. the entire thing looks like a control module for a sub RM600 speaker system. the remote needs to be pointed at the module very accurately... the whole control is just plain shitty. im lucky i have audio controls on my keyboard biggrin.gif

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hello - one thing i think users of Logitech sets that are thinking of getting mega or gigaworks. Hmm i have the luxury of having z680 and gigaworks in one house (another housemate owns giga). If u are used to the multiple input of Z680 and Z5500, please be advice that the feature is NOT available in S750 (unless if u are willing to fork out another RM599 for the creative decoder DDTS-100 - as my housemate did) As u all probably already know, the Logitech Control Center for Z680 and Z5500 have FOUR inputs and a headphone output. One of the reason i bought Z680 was because - i connect my dvd player, my sony mini compo to the Control Center. i also pc connect my PC analoguely and digitally to the Contro Center therefore .. the four inputs are totally used .. i think that is why silon said that for RM999... Z680 IS VERY VALUE FOR MONEY... i totally agree. BUT THEN I GOT MINE FOR RM1430 .. DAMNNNNN shud have wait another two years .. tongue.gif
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silon - just for clarification - i said that z630's woofer is smaller than Z680 and Z5500 and not S750? because i just checked, S750's sub is bigger than Z680.

BTW - but then if u only use a single input on our logitech ... and want better sound ,,, go for S750 or PMU. Want think i don't like about S750's is that (maybe its because of my housemate's treble config) .. the treble is SOOO loud that sometimes my ears hurt during car explosions scenes for example.
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here is how S750 inside of the sub look like .... ( and i did not secretly open my housemate's sub and took photos tongue.gif )

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Ohh silon what a fast replied~

Make my day intresting~ after long hours work *sob sob*
So i can made a conclusion tat every speakers have their own pros n cons~

Such as creative gigaworks have good sound n extra satellites but creative engineers never try to implement a digital pod for controller

Wheras for logitech...have big sub n boomy bass speciality for games i think but sound wise..i think cant perform well compare to gigaorks [since gigaworks is the most exp one] tongue.gif

Act i dont really need a 10" sub...dont really dare to BLAST at home nor back my hometown~ too bad price tag for creative gigaworks..cost a lot more then Z5500~ haha [u really lucky guy bro~hope u really enjoy yor gigaworks]

Thanks for the pic too~ the device look plain...yeah is really plain compare to mine z680...but overall...still is *Gigaworks*

Ohh yeah...does the satellites of all Gigaworks produce equal sound quality nor surround? Can gigaworks switch the multichannel mode effect?

eg:
=7 channel direct
=Stereo
=PL2 music
=Pl2 movie and more from the controller?

Thanks!
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g5sim, please edit your previous post and not start a new one, it's damn annoying reading multiple post.

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