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post Oct 25 2018, 11:05 AM

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QUOTE(synystan @ Oct 13 2018, 09:00 PM)
Hey guys, I have just recently got a job:

Something related to data quality in IT department

I have mentioned that my expected salary would be 3k, but then I was told that it wouldn't be that high.

So, the question is, how much should I expect ? I mean there's a baseline and of course, it's not about the money but isn't 3k a standard salary for IT technical fields nowadays?

What if the company offers me below than 2.5 ? Should I still accept? I heard the field of data quality, data analytics are rising right now.
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Don’t bother, I’m a fresh graduate in data analytics field and my friends gotten a job ranging 3k-3.5k.

That company is lowballing you lul
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post Oct 29 2018, 10:50 AM

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QUOTE(kellyisevil @ Oct 16 2018, 10:50 AM)
Have u gotten the job or not?
Its quite confusing since you said you got a job but the pay is unsure yet.
It depends on the job scope and location.
perhaps u can break down to us on your qualification, past experience and the scale of the company you applied for.
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I have just gotten the job, its secured and it pays 2.5 after epf and socso.
I'm fresh grad, and seems that the company wanted me to do some kind of data analyse, not sure how, but looks like sql quering, maybe.
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post Nov 13 2018, 01:53 PM

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Hi guys im a fresh grad, just wondering what is the difference between Basic salary and allowance?


I know I get money from basic, but do I get money from allowance? Lets say the company offer me allowance of RM1500, does that mean I can use the RM1500 in anything like lodging, food, petrol? Can I get money from the RM1500?
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post Nov 28 2018, 04:22 PM

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hi guys,

for fresh grads, is it standard procedure for companies to verify your degree CGPA with your university?
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post Nov 29 2018, 07:04 PM

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QUOTE(Financier @ Nov 13 2018, 01:53 PM)
Hi guys im a fresh grad, just wondering what is the difference between Basic salary and allowance?
I know I get money from basic, but do I get money from allowance? Lets say the company offer me allowance of RM1500, does that mean I can use the RM1500 in anything like lodging, food, petrol? Can I get money from the RM1500?
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Basic salary is your pay = the company have to contribute to your EPF, SOCSO.

Allowances (not eligible for EPF and SOCSO) - are usually benefits like travelling allowances (for petrol when you travel), mobile phone/ calls, meals etc. These are not taxable if I'm not mistaken. They will pay you the RM1.5k allowance together with your basic salary. Some companies want to contribute less to the staff's EPF and SOCSO thus they give you a higher allowance.

End of the day if you take up a package with high allowance, your monthly nett pay is higher. However, consider the disadvantage that your employer is paying/ contributing significantly lesser to your EPF each month.

QUOTE(kolokua @ Nov 28 2018, 04:22 PM)
hi guys,

for fresh grads, is it standard procedure for companies to verify your degree CGPA with your university?
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Maybe, maybe not. It depends on HR. Usually SMEs don't do that but there's a possibility that listed companies or MNCs may call up your University to check although most of the time not very likely.
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post Nov 30 2018, 07:04 PM

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QUOTE(sweet_pez @ Nov 29 2018, 07:04 PM)
Basic salary is your pay = the company have to contribute to your EPF, SOCSO.

Allowances (not eligible for EPF and SOCSO) - are usually benefits like travelling allowances (for petrol when you travel), mobile phone/ calls, meals etc. These are not taxable if I'm not mistaken. They will pay you the RM1.5k allowance together with your basic salary. Some companies want to contribute less to the staff's EPF and SOCSO thus they give you a higher allowance.
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If I want to jump company, normally employer increase only basic pay or they look at the total package?


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post Dec 3 2018, 02:28 PM

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QUOTE(Financier @ Nov 30 2018, 07:04 PM)
If I want to jump company, normally employer increase only basic pay or they look at the total package?
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They usually only look at your basic pay. So if your basic pay is low, there may be little room for negotiation. Allowance is dependent on each company's package/ policy so it varies.
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post Jan 2 2019, 11:31 AM

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Interested to join an m&e engineering consulting firm. Any recommendations? And whats the average salary?

Im a fresh grad btw.
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post Jan 2 2019, 04:26 PM

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Hi all, what do u guys think abt Uniqlo Manager Candidate(UMC) ? It’s a retail management trainee kinda program and they’ve offered me a position. I know roughly what it’s about and everything, but would appreciate it if someone here has any experience in it and would like to share? Thanks!
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post Jan 4 2019, 08:37 PM

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QUOTE(Financier @ Nov 30 2018, 07:04 PM)
If I want to jump company, normally employer increase only basic pay or they look at the total package?
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Hopefully not too late. For my current company, they asked me a bunch of questions before deciding if my final pay is acceptable, so I supposed yes? Might vary according to different companies of course.
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post Apr 15 2019, 12:16 AM

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Helo everyone..
I am graduated diploma student.. I have no experience work in design field... Well that sound horror for me... I start search job at jobstreet, linkedin, indeed, sabah jobs and any website that hired graphic designer.. It really hard for me to find job at sabah related to my field.. They rarely hired Graphic designer here.. I know at selangor have a lot of vacancy Graphic Designer. But i decide to work at sabah. Here at sabah i mostly found vacancy for photographer and videographer or editor. Its related to bridal and event. It really hard to find a job look interest for me. Well im picky person, i want to find job that really suitable with things i want to learn.. Im really interest with branding product and web design.. I have apply several jobs and sent my resume but really having trouble with expected salary... I set my expected salary Rm1500.. I don't set to much higher, it will only make me look too much greedy in they eye.. With my current situation no experience and solid portfolio, its really make me hard to stand among other rest candidates.. Im doommm... I have do a lot research about expected salary.. None i find helping..

After i fail my first interview(maybe), they said i should at least had 1 year experience, do intern or work freelance.. Work freelance??? That is my first time i ever heard bout that.. never across in my mind doing that work.. I protect my pride by saying "I'm still fresh graduated student. I have no experience nor do work freelance. I can only present my final artwork during my diploma show. Everyone same at the beginning when they start work. Not having to much experience or skill. So that is why they search for a job to obtain what they want to gain. I may look nothing to you but when it come to design i know what to do and present what client want.".. After that I don't know if im being rude said those word to interview. Moreover I never feel any regret speak like that better than stay silent.

Then after that i start doing freelance.. I join contest, if i win i get money, if i lose i can keep my work as my portfolio.. I never win in any contest. There are so many strong competitor and copy cat(which they try to steal your design).. Even im lose, but i never lose to learn something to improve my designs, be creative and learn how to interact with my client.. I enjoin explore see artwork from top level designer.. I feel challenged after watch their quality artwork.. Really amazing and speechless. I don't know how they can develop this fresh concept design.. If i make comparison with my artwork really far better... Starting that moment i decide to climb higher .. i start read article about design, see tutorial, up to date new trend design.. I discover many things that i never found during my time being as student.. Also i start learn new skill about website front code... At first i am really stuck.. Wonder where should i start? How to understand this function html, css and js?? .. Again do research and i found site that i can learn code for free. That site for beginner to learning code step by step and they support each other by shared their knowledge.

Not to long after that, i had to stop do freelance since i'm busy helped my family business.. Wake up early morning and go back at night.. I had try several time stay up late night just for doing design.. The result it tomorrow my backbone hurt(maybe because i drink to much coffee) and almost lack of sleep.. I stop do that afterward. I spend my time do illustration and sketch what on my mind . If not i will try discover something new. It is almost 1 year i stop doing freelance.. I cannot stand by never do any design for my portfolio... With my laptop can't turn on (R.I.P) mean it dies need to replace with new one... Dammit... I lost hope... I wish i afford to buy new one..

So right now i need to searching for jobs again.. I make a research about that company which i will apply. Then search a lot example how to write a good resume. Wishing i could get one.. But sadly none i got respond for interview.. Seeing the job description make me really want to sent my resume. After read the requirement im speechless.. Need 2-3 years experience at least, able to do this and that, need to speak mandarin and soo onnnn... I could only just stare that jobs application... While i tell myself 'There should be another opportunity'.. I wonder if i should continue my study Degree??? Or just get a job? Or do freelance?? ... I start to worry about my future right now... Worry that i might not get hire..

------THE END------

This is very long story about my horror life lolll haha, i don't know who i should talk... Since here you all mostly Malaysian people and maybe some of you Graphic Designer.. I want to know your opinion about my current situation. Maybe giving some advise that also may be help for me...
Thank you..

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post Apr 29 2019, 02:34 PM

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QUOTE(Cardamon @ Apr 15 2019, 12:16 AM)
Helo everyone..
I am graduated diploma student.. I have no experience work in design field... Well that sound horror for me... I start search job at  jobstreet, linkedin, indeed, sabah jobs and any website that hired graphic designer.. It really hard for me to find job at sabah related to my field.. They rarely hired Graphic designer here.. I know at selangor have a lot of vacancy Graphic Designer. But i decide to work at sabah. Here at sabah i mostly found vacancy for photographer and videographer or editor. Its related to bridal and event. It really hard to find a job look interest for me. Well im picky person, i want to find job that really suitable with things i want to learn.. Im really interest with branding product and web design.. I have apply several jobs and sent my resume but really having trouble with expected salary... I set my expected salary Rm1500.. I don't set to much higher, it will only make me look too much greedy in they eye.. With my current situation no experience and solid portfolio, its really make me hard to stand among other rest candidates.. Im doommm... I have do a lot research about expected salary.. None i find helping..

After i fail my first interview(maybe), they said i should at least had 1 year experience, do intern or work freelance.. Work freelance??? That is my first time i ever heard bout that.. never across in my mind doing that work.. I protect my pride by saying "I'm still fresh graduated student. I have no experience nor do work freelance. I can only present my final artwork during my diploma show. Everyone same at the beginning when they start work. Not having to much experience or skill. So that is why they search for a job to obtain what they want to gain. I may look nothing to you but when it come to design i know what to do and present what client want.".. After that I don't know if im being rude said those word to interview. Moreover I never feel any regret speak like that better than stay silent.

Then after that i start doing freelance.. I join contest, if i win i get money, if i lose i can keep my work as my portfolio.. I never win in any contest. There are so many strong competitor and copy cat(which they try to steal your design).. Even im lose, but i never lose to learn something to improve my designs, be creative and learn how to interact with my client..  I enjoin explore see artwork from top level designer.. I feel challenged after watch their quality artwork.. Really amazing and speechless. I don't know how they can develop this fresh concept design.. If i make comparison with my artwork really far better... Starting that moment i decide to climb higher .. i start read article about design, see tutorial, up to date new trend design.. I discover many things that i never found during my time being as student.. Also i start learn new skill about website front code... At first i am really stuck.. Wonder where should i start? How to understand this function html, css and js?? .. Again do research and i found site that i can learn code for free. That site for beginner to learning code step by step  and they support each other by shared their knowledge.

Not to long after that, i had to stop do freelance since i'm busy helped my family business.. Wake up early morning and go back at night.. I had try several time stay up late night just for doing design.. The result it tomorrow my backbone hurt(maybe because i drink to much coffee) and almost lack of sleep.. I stop do that afterward. I spend my time do  illustration and sketch what on my mind . If not i will try discover something new. It is almost 1 year i stop doing freelance.. I cannot stand by never do any design for my portfolio... With my laptop can't turn on (R.I.P) mean it dies need to replace with new one... Dammit... I lost hope... I wish i afford to buy new one..

So right now i need to searching for jobs again.. I make a research about that company which i will apply. Then search a lot example how to write a good resume.  Wishing i could get one.. But sadly none i got respond for interview.. Seeing the job description make me really want to sent my resume. After read the requirement im speechless.. Need 2-3 years experience at least, able to do this and that, need to speak mandarin and soo onnnn... I could only just stare that jobs application... While i tell myself 'There should be another opportunity'.. I wonder if i should continue my study Degree??? Or just get a job? Or do freelance??  ... I start to worry about my future right now... Worry that i might not get hire..

                                ------THE END------

This is very long story about my horror life lolll haha, i don't know who i should talk... Since here you all mostly Malaysian people and maybe some of you Graphic Designer.. I want to know your opinion about my current situation. Maybe giving some advise that also may be help for me...
Thank you..
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Hi Cardamon, I can see that you really put some effort on job hunting. I understand that it will be a long & tiring journey until you arrived your final destination, eg getting a job you desired.

I hope can give you more help, but couldn't much. So let me share some tips that might be helpful.


As you said, you still want to stay at Sabah, but I believe you also understand how the job market in design goes on there right? Everyone has their own preference of looking for a job, so I respect your decision.


For the time being, you may do some little things that may be useful for you. 1st, do some company research that focus on the Design as their main core. Next, you can expand networking, go more and more networking events to make you stand out. Or at least, you can know the information that cannot simply get just by Google or casual chat with just anyone. Next, you also can do some correction for your resume. Maybe you can upgrade it to be better & customised. Since, you are in Design field, I'd suggest you can use concept of minimal & colourful resume (one-page, info-graphic, good color). Good luck.

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QUOTE(Siti D @ Apr 29 2019, 02:34 PM)
Hi Cardamon, I can see that you really put some effort on job hunting. I understand that it will be a long & tiring journey until you arrived your final destination, eg getting a job you desired.

I hope can give you more help, but couldn't much. So let me share some tips that might be helpful.
As you said, you still want to stay at Sabah, but I believe you also understand how the job market in design goes on there right? Everyone has their own preference of looking for a job, so I respect your decision.
For the time being, you may do some little things that may be useful for you. 1st, do some company research that focus on the Design as their main core. Next, you can expand networking, go more and more networking events to make you stand out. Or at least, you can know the information that cannot simply get just by Google or casual chat with just anyone. Next, you also can do some correction for your resume. Maybe you can upgrade it to be better & customised. Since, you are in Design field, I'd suggest you can use concept of minimal & colourful resume (one-page, info-graphic, good color). Good luck.
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Helo Siti,
Yeah i also know what you mean by job market at Sabah in design field. Very... very.. ermmmm sweat.gif ... no comment. In order to survive i have to do Freelance while searching for next jobs. Built portfolio is important for me. While waiting my coming soon job, i try to adapt new skills.

I have do research company before applying the job. I don't like randomly apply without know the details. i try to understand they main priority vision/mission/goal, business, requirement and job description. But for certain vacancy like Company Confidential i can't track they company background if they didn't state properly. Just relying they job description and requirement. Networking i only use linkedin to add my connection and not really active used any social media..

Sometime when i try to look back, i realize that i have faced many obstacle while i struggle to achieve my future. Moreover i have been walk this far, i can't simply give up. Well i guess big things take time to create it.

Oh its okay even though you shared a few tips, i find it useful to remind me back. Thank you very much for your reply biggrin.gif ..
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QUOTE(Cardamon @ May 12 2019, 10:58 PM)
Helo Siti,
Yeah i also know what you mean by job market at Sabah in design field. Very... very.. ermmmm sweat.gif ... no comment. In order to survive i have to do Freelance while searching for next jobs. Built portfolio is important for me. While waiting my coming soon job, i try to adapt new skills.

I have do research company before  applying the job. I don't like randomly apply without know the details. i try to understand they main priority vision/mission/goal, business, requirement and job description.  But for certain vacancy like Company Confidential i can't track they company background  if they didn't state properly. Just relying they job description and requirement. Networking i only use linkedin to add my connection and not really active used any social media..

Sometime when i try to look back, i realize that i have faced many obstacle while i struggle to achieve my future. Moreover i have been walk this far, i can't simply give up. Well i guess big things take time to create it.

Oh its okay even though you shared a few tips, i find it useful to remind me back. Thank you very much for your reply biggrin.gif ..
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You are welcome Cardamon. Good luck again. biggrin.gif
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post May 19 2019, 01:15 PM

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i'm a low quality mechanical engineering fresh graduate with a couple of other unattractive traits. I have only found an IT project management job, good pay and very near to home. So far no engineering companies accept me. Should i take it or keep searching something more related to my degree? i prefer construction.
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I need some opinion from all of you guys:

One of my friend work in manufacturing side with Diploma in Electronic. Currently he been doing part time degree in IT (still first year tho). He asking me if he try to apply for web dev, will the company will even give him a job ? Tbh he really have a skill set for web dev because he learn it from my friends and online . I really don't know how to answer his question tbh. I asked him to do some project ( an actually website) that can show how he capable in developing a website.

This post has been edited by LokhonSporrow: May 25 2019, 04:38 AM
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QUOTE(LokhonSporrow @ May 25 2019, 04:35 AM)
I need some opinion from all of you guys:

One of my friend work in manufacturing side with Diploma in Electronic. Currently he been doing part time degree in IT (still first year tho). He asking me if he try to apply for web dev, will the company will even give him a job ? Tbh he really have a skill set for web dev because he learn it from my friends and online . I really don't know how to answer his question tbh. I asked him to do some project ( an actually website) that can show how he capable in developing a website.
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I suggest same like you by doing some project. Talk to recuiter that he know do this and that is talk cheap. To convince that he capable to get hire, he need at least to prove that he had do some project web or he can show previous work he do with his online friend.. He also can check at youtube how people get jod related to his job.

If he had exprience with web dev previously, that good. He need to fulfil the requirement job. Tell him don't think second thought or doubt either he get hire or not. Put that aside. As long he confident with his skill im sure he know what he gonna do.
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QUOTE(Cardamon @ May 27 2019, 02:01 PM)
I suggest same like you by doing some project. Talk to recuiter that he know do this and that is talk cheap. To convince that he capable to get hire, he need at least to prove that he had do some project web or he can show previous work he do with his online friend.. He also can check at youtube how people get jod related to his job.

If he had exprience with web dev previously, that good. He need to fulfil the requirement job. Tell him don't think second thought or doubt either he get hire or not. Put that aside. As long he confident with his skill im sure he know what he gonna do.
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Thanks man. I will make sure too pass down this him when i see him later. One more thing, just like you say to have actually project to show how worth for recruit to hire him. I watch some of video on youtube that recommended for someone to go and to get an internship for building their experience first. It is better this way or just do like you says and just go on interview when everything seem good for him( his skill & and side project ) ?
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post May 29 2019, 10:03 PM

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I wouldn't dare to give any suggestion about this since im not sure too. But what i notice have Intern is important nowadays. If he has do intern and has skill (or include some his previous work).. Yess this is bonus for him.

I want to ask did your friend take part time degree IT, while he search job for web dev?? (this is only my thought)..
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A fresh grad work in bank contact centre for 5 months then resign 24 hours because anxiety hits me hard. Have an upcoming interview, an insurance co. will it kill me if I mention my first job and that I quit 24 hours?

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