QUOTE(kl87 @ Dec 13 2010, 12:34 PM)
a helpful tips for all graduates. thx
- Don’t ask about money or benefits. Wait until you’ve got the job.
However, i do believe during the interview, they will ask about the expected salary from us
- Don’t ask about money or benefits. Wait until you’ve got the job.
However, i do believe during the interview, they will ask about the expected salary from us
QUOTE(furryfluffy @ Dec 14 2010, 06:15 PM)
i beg to disagree.
this form the essence of employment.
however, i agree that do not compare with other friends. it's a marathon... u never know what will happen 2-3 yrs down the road. Some jobs start a bit high but climbs slowly, while some will start low but has good increment
Just to drop my opinion here. Both might apply, but it is highly dependable on each individual's discretion and situation. this form the essence of employment.
however, i agree that do not compare with other friends. it's a marathon... u never know what will happen 2-3 yrs down the road. Some jobs start a bit high but climbs slowly, while some will start low but has good increment
I actually second kl87 on this (personally - in my case). In one of my previous interviews (I was still pretty fresh back then) I actually asked what are the company benefits (honestly, not that I care but I find that I have nothing to ask so the question just popped out of my mouth) and the boss replied, "All the basic benefits you find in other companies..." and he gave me this 'look'. lol it kind of indicate "what a stup*d question" that I asked.
I realized then and there that this is indeed not a wise question. I mean, there are people who actually place company benefits into heavy consideration on whether to accept a job or not, but since it's not something crucial for me (as long as it's 14 days AL, MC claim etc - basic compensation) I noticed that I don't need to ask about it until I'm accepted for the job.
That's just my personal experience and POV ^^; it's normal to talk about salary (I always wait for interviewer to initiate the discussion about pay) but less likely when it comes to benefits. If the interviewer happens to highlight/ talk about their benefits, then it's fine to ask further question about anything that you're not clear with
QUOTE(yiivei @ Feb 3 2011, 11:49 AM)
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Thx Geminist for sharing your experience.
I very much agreed for Point 1 and 2. I currently facing this situation. Always try to act in good faith by helping others. In the end, they start to push the work to you and won't even thank you for helping them. Thus, sometime we really got to learn to say "No".
By acting in good faith at time won't bring us any goods.
Another point i wish to highlight is that never take the words of management for granted. As they might chance their decision from time to time. If not, the higher you expect, the deeper you falls. Just do your work within your responsibility unless the task(s) assigned by superior...
Haha well it varies with companies on the management part. Some management team are very indecisive and they're not sure whether certain things would be feasible. Sometimes in order to keep a potential staff from leaving, they would promise all sorts of candy but once you stayed on you'll realize that it's nothing like they said.
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