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post Mar 12 2011, 10:50 AM

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speaking of swap on sdcard..i read it's not really recommended as it might spoilt the sd card more faster hmm.gif?
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post Mar 12 2011, 11:09 AM

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saya_zharif : you can follow salimbest instructions at post # 2360.

However I'd like to say, if you have make a backup of the CSL rom using rom manager, you can also just use rom manager to restore back your CSL rom
This is what I did
Using SUT to restore is more tedious way

If you have make a restore using SUT, do remembeer keep a backup copy using rom manager - is very useful when you need to go back to stock rom when you want to try flashing other roms
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post Mar 12 2011, 01:04 PM

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QUOTE(salimbest83 @ Jan 10 2011, 06:07 PM)
i cant find any Software Update Tool for CSL yet..
(mean : there's is no turning back for ur warranty )
I found this MI-300-Eclair-Software-Updater-Tool.zip from the SPICE website... Is it not the same as the CSL using??
This tool update the Eclair v2.1 to the SPICE. I havent tried it yet since I didnt root my phone.
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post Mar 12 2011, 01:11 PM

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QUOTE(jasonkhoo87 @ Mar 12 2011, 01:04 PM)
I found this MI-300-Eclair-Software-Updater-Tool.zip from the SPICE website... Is it not the same as the CSL using??
This tool update the Eclair v2.1 to the SPICE. I havent tried it yet since I didnt root my phone.
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You will not see the CSL splash screen and missing the CSL customized apps
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post Mar 12 2011, 01:41 PM

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succeed. thx guys. but it doesnt impress me much xD i was predicting some interactive GUI @@


Added on March 12, 2011, 1:41 pmMORE interactive i mean @@

This post has been edited by saya_zharif: Mar 12 2011, 01:41 PM
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post Mar 12 2011, 01:52 PM

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QUOTE(benny888 @ Mar 12 2011, 01:11 PM)
You will not see the CSL splash screen and missing the CSL customized apps
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thanks for the info. So, as i start installing custom firmware. then, my warranty will be lost eventhough i can revert back to the official eclair v2.1 back to my spice. because of lack the csl boot screen. Am I right?
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post Mar 12 2011, 02:13 PM

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QUOTE(jasonkhoo87 @ Mar 12 2011, 01:04 PM)
I found this MI-300-Eclair-Software-Updater-Tool.zip from the SPICE website... Is it not the same as the CSL using??
This tool update the Eclair v2.1 to the SPICE. I havent tried it yet since I didnt root my phone.
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yup.. using that tool since day 2..
to recover my bricked phone.. sweat.gif


Added on March 12, 2011, 2:14 pm
QUOTE(saya_zharif @ Mar 12 2011, 01:41 PM)
succeed. thx guys. but it doesnt impress me much xD i was predicting some interactive GUI @@


Added on March 12, 2011, 1:41 pmMORE interactive i mean @@
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our phone cant be too interactive la..
little ram lo..


Added on March 12, 2011, 2:14 pm
QUOTE(GameSky @ Mar 12 2011, 10:50 AM)
speaking of swap on sdcard..i read it's not really recommended as it might spoilt the sd card more faster hmm.gif?
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not really that fast..
at least 1-2 years ..
then time to upgrade already..


Added on March 12, 2011, 2:16 pm
QUOTE(jasonkhoo87 @ Mar 12 2011, 01:52 PM)
thanks for the info. So, as i start installing custom firmware. then, my warranty will be lost eventhough i can revert back to the official eclair v2.1 back to my spice. because of lack the csl boot screen.  Am I right?
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thats sum it up..
no CSL boot screen, no CSL softwares..

This post has been edited by salimbest83: Mar 12 2011, 02:16 PM
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post Mar 12 2011, 02:58 PM

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Im not sure this is illegal or not to post this link.

http://albert-david.blogspot.com/2010/10/r...ice-mi-300.html

as i found out that.. Backup method..

* cat /dev/mtd/mtd0 > /sdcard/bkup.mdt0.boot
* cat /dev/mtd/mtd1 > /sdcard/bkup.mdt1.misc
* cat /dev/mtd/mtd2 > /sdcard/bkup.mdt2.splash
* cat /dev/mtd/mtd3 > /sdcard/bkup.mdt3.recovery
* cat /dev/mtd/mtd4 > /sdcard/bkup.mdt4.ftm
* cat /dev/mtd/mtd5 > /sdcard/bkup.mdt5.hidden
* cat /dev/mtd/mtd6 > /sdcard/bkup.mdt6.dgbmask
* cat /dev/mtd/mtd7 > /sdcard/bkup.mdt7.system
* cat /dev/mtd/mtd8 > /sdcard/bkup.mdt8.misc2
* cat /dev/mtd/mtd9 > /sdcard/bkup.mdt9.cache
* cat /dev/mtd/mtd10 > /sdcard/bkup.mdt10.userdata

isnt the "* cat /dev/mtd/mtd2 > /sdcard/bkup.mdt2.splash" is the boot screen? Im not sure.. just want to ask here..
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post Mar 12 2011, 03:09 PM

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QUOTE(jasonkhoo87 @ Mar 12 2011, 02:58 PM)
Im not sure this is illegal or not to post this link.

http://albert-david.blogspot.com/2010/10/r...ice-mi-300.html

as i found out that.. Backup method..

    * cat /dev/mtd/mtd0 > /sdcard/bkup.mdt0.boot
    * cat /dev/mtd/mtd1 > /sdcard/bkup.mdt1.misc
    * cat /dev/mtd/mtd2 > /sdcard/bkup.mdt2.splash
    * cat /dev/mtd/mtd3 > /sdcard/bkup.mdt3.recovery
    * cat /dev/mtd/mtd4 > /sdcard/bkup.mdt4.ftm
    * cat /dev/mtd/mtd5 > /sdcard/bkup.mdt5.hidden
    * cat /dev/mtd/mtd6 > /sdcard/bkup.mdt6.dgbmask
    * cat /dev/mtd/mtd7 > /sdcard/bkup.mdt7.system
    * cat /dev/mtd/mtd8 > /sdcard/bkup.mdt8.misc2
    * cat /dev/mtd/mtd9 > /sdcard/bkup.mdt9.cache
    * cat /dev/mtd/mtd10 > /sdcard/bkup.mdt10.userdata

isnt the "* cat /dev/mtd/mtd2 > /sdcard/bkup.mdt2.splash" is the boot screen? Im not sure.. just want to ask here..
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anyone stil have stock phone, can try it out>?
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post Mar 12 2011, 03:17 PM

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QUOTE(salimbest83 @ Mar 12 2011, 03:09 PM)
anyone stil have stock phone, can try it out>?
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hehe. i have the stock phone.. but, even i can backup all the content , how to restort all those file to my spice?? and. can i just use the terminal emulator at spice to perform the linux command rather than using my laptop?

thanks.
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QUOTE(jasonkhoo87 @ Mar 12 2011, 02:58 PM)
Im not sure this is illegal or not to post this link.

http://albert-david.blogspot.com/2010/10/r...ice-mi-300.html

as i found out that.. Backup method..

    * cat /dev/mtd/mtd0 > /sdcard/bkup.mdt0.boot
    * cat /dev/mtd/mtd1 > /sdcard/bkup.mdt1.misc
    * cat /dev/mtd/mtd2 > /sdcard/bkup.mdt2.splash
    * cat /dev/mtd/mtd3 > /sdcard/bkup.mdt3.recovery
    * cat /dev/mtd/mtd4 > /sdcard/bkup.mdt4.ftm
    * cat /dev/mtd/mtd5 > /sdcard/bkup.mdt5.hidden
    * cat /dev/mtd/mtd6 > /sdcard/bkup.mdt6.dgbmask
    * cat /dev/mtd/mtd7 > /sdcard/bkup.mdt7.system
    * cat /dev/mtd/mtd8 > /sdcard/bkup.mdt8.misc2
    * cat /dev/mtd/mtd9 > /sdcard/bkup.mdt9.cache
    * cat /dev/mtd/mtd10 > /sdcard/bkup.mdt10.userdata

isnt the "* cat /dev/mtd/mtd2 > /sdcard/bkup.mdt2.splash" is the boot screen? Im not sure.. just want to ask here..
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here said can revert back hence get back the warranty woh:

http://wahedkhan.wordpress.com/2011/02/14/...lable-to-flash/

is this true ah? hmm.gif
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post Mar 12 2011, 05:34 PM

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QUOTE(yuchwern @ Mar 12 2011, 05:30 PM)
here said can revert back hence get back the warranty woh:

http://wahedkhan.wordpress.com/2011/02/14/...lable-to-flash/

is this true ah? hmm.gif
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dang. if u post this earlier then we all can share stock ROM already. i just flashed my phone few hours ago. rclxub.gif
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post Mar 12 2011, 06:18 PM

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QUOTE(yuchwern @ Mar 12 2011, 05:30 PM)
here said can revert back hence get back the warranty woh:

http://wahedkhan.wordpress.com/2011/02/14/...lable-to-flash/

is this true ah? hmm.gif
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do you read the comment at that forum?? im the one who asking in the forum. the guy said that it will backup everything.. of course, i read all the resource in the internet.

but, the important for our spice is the boot logo. CSL one. if we can revert back to official rom without the CSL boot logo, we also void the warranty. that why im waithing for the guy comment my post there.. if really can backup boot logo as well. i will root my spice.. smile.gif
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post Mar 12 2011, 06:21 PM

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QUOTE(jasonkhoo87 @ Mar 12 2011, 06:18 PM)
do you read the comment at that forum?? im the one who asking in the forum. the guy said that it will backup everything.. of course, i read all the resource in the internet.

but, the important for our spice is the boot logo. CSL one. if we can revert back to official rom without the CSL boot logo, we also void the warranty. that why im waithing for the guy comment my post there.. if really can backup boot logo as well. i will root my spice.. smile.gif
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do make sure you distribute that back up for us biggrin.gif

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post Mar 12 2011, 06:25 PM

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QUOTE(saya_zharif @ Mar 12 2011, 06:21 PM)
do make sure you distribute that back up for us biggrin.gif

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i will if the result is positif..

u already root and install custom firmware?
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post Mar 12 2011, 06:59 PM

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Do not flame me. It is just my opinion. If you are worry about warranty DO NOT root and flash any rom

Seriously for a 600 ringgit phone, which is infact a budget phone - the value you get out of rooting and flashing froyo rom is many more times the value of RM600. Once you have done it, you will ask why I never do it earlier and why was I ever concern about warranty

If you are happy with your current rom ( 1.6 or 2.1) , there is actually no need to flash to 2.2. Don't do it just because most of us are doing it. Look at what Froyo offers - if you need those features than root/flash. If you worry about warranty, DO NOT do it. Of course if you can get back a stock rom fully , it is better but this lack should not be a deterrent

What are Froyo's benefits : ( summarized excerpts )

- Froyo uses a new super-fast version of its Dalvik Java Virtual Machine that features a highly optimised Just In Time compiler. In English, this speeds up Android apps by 2 to 5x. And that’s not just some apps – that’s all apps, all at least twice as fast and as much as 5x as fast as they were on Android 2.1!

- Android’s Web browser has been given a new JavaScript engine (Google’s V8), which speeds up JavaScript execution time by 2 – 3x and is claim to be one of the fastest mobile browser in the World.

- The result of all this speed increase is a drastically improved phone with enhanced performance, superior responsiveness, and all for free!

Uber-Connectivity
Android 2.2 doesn’t just provide tethering (which turns your phone into a modem, enabling you to connect to the Internet on your laptop via your phone), it also acts as a WiFi hotspot, letting several laptops (or other Wifi-equipped devices) connect through the Internet using your Android phone.

User Interface Tweaks
Tonnes of little user interface tweaks make the whole Android experience much better, including:

New Gallery lets you view stacks of pictures using a zoom gesture
Updated onscreen camera controls let you adjust zoom, flash, white balance, geo-tagging, focus and exposure, all from the screen

Slight tweaking of GMail navigation

Much better looking Google Calendar

Enterprise features
Remote Wipe feature lets you wipe the device if it’s ever stolen or lost
Auto-discovery and configuration of Microsoft Exchange accounts. Simply enter your username and password and Android 2.2 will automatically connect and sync with your Exchange server, pulling in your emails and Exchange calendar onto your Android phone

Integration with Exchanges Global Address Book

Device backup now backs up your whole device, including all data from your third party apps

Cloud-to-device messaging
Cloud-to-device messaging lets you push commands (Google calls them Android Intents) to your Android phone via your desktop browser. So, for example, you can find a location in Google Maps and push it to your phone, which will then open the phone’s map at that location automatically.

This works not just with maps but with pretty much anything. Web pages, for example: if you’ve started reading an important Web page on your desktop, but then have to leave in a hurry, you can push it to your Android phone, where it’ll pop up on your phone without you having to do anything. Genius!

New Over The Air Android Marketplace
Google have built a brand new Android Marketplace site on the Web, which lets you see apps, read reviews and try the apps out.

Not by downloading them on the Web – using Cloud-to-device messaging, you can select your app and push it to your phone over the air with a single click. The app is pushed to your phone and automatically installed immediately.

Better still, Android marketplace is no longer limited to apps – you can download music in exactly the same way as well. Find the tune you want in your desktop browser and push it to your phone over the air with just a single click.

Full support for Flash 10.1. Not Flash Lite, but the full Adobe Flash experience that Apple’s so at odds with

App storage on an SD card lets you finally install your apps on an external SD card, which is typically hundreds of times larger than your phone’s internal storage. Result? You can install many more applications, and your phone won’t slow down when you install hundreds of apps

Improved voice recognition
PIN codes now accepted to lock the device as well as the existing pattern lock

New car dock feature rearranges the interface to make it easier to use while driving (the music control and lighting features that is – not necessarily the browser or video player!)

Dedicated shortcuts for the phone, apps Launcher and browser now on all 5 Home Screens

LED flash enabled for the Camcorder, letting you shoot videos in low light

Enhanced support for OpenGL ES 2.0 for improved graphics capabilities

New ability to update all installed apps at once, or have them update automatically



Added on March 12, 2011, 7:09 pm
QUOTE(jasonkhoo87 @ Mar 12 2011, 06:18 PM)
do you read the comment at that forum?? im the one who asking in the forum. the guy said that it will backup everything.. of course, i read all the resource in the internet.

but, the important for our spice is the boot logo. CSL one. if we can revert back to official rom without the CSL boot logo, we also void the warranty. that why im waithing for the guy comment my post there.. if really can backup boot logo as well. i will root my spice.. smile.gif
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I am now answering specifically this question. I have posted earlier, if one has NEVER yet flash any rom - use ROM MANAGER to do a backup of your original rom.
You can always go back to this backup - it restore 101% if 100 % is not good enough, meaning you will get to see the original CSL splash screens

I have only been on the i300 for 3 days only. In these 3 days I have tested 3 roms. And I discovered one thing

Once you flash a cook rom ontop of stock, even after you reflash back stock you will see splash screen of the previous rom ( just a brief 1-2 seconds ) before the CSL splash screen. The best way to remove this previous rom splash screen is to clear cache partition, clear dalvikm cache, clear data and factory reset before you flash back stock. When the stock rom is successfully booted. go back to recovery and clear all cache partition, dalvik cache again

This post has been edited by benny888: Mar 12 2011, 07:09 PM
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QUOTE(benny888 @ Mar 12 2011, 06:59 PM)
Do not flame me. It is just my opinion. If you are worry about warranty DO NOT root and flash any rom
I agree with you.. For what u bought this kind of phone without tweaking to the maximum limit right.. smile.gif

I used to be Symbian lover before. until now.. but, i want to play with android also..

Now i get confuse.. I know rooting the phone is easy. But, choosing the right custom firmware are difficult..

As I google many, i found there several custom like

1. firetrap twonight
2. cyanogenmod nightbuild
3. firetrap jellybean
4. froyo phantom king sky fish
5. bakpia cokelat
6. superbler
7. cmeclair

these i found compatible with the spice mi-300 (correct me if im wrong).. I know there diffrerent between power usage, keyboard, interface.
can i have some info through this? i read the previous post but, what i get only the benchmark about some of the custom above..
which one suit or better recommendation.

This post has been edited by jasonkhoo87: Mar 12 2011, 07:15 PM
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QUOTE(jasonkhoo87 @ Mar 12 2011, 03:58 PM)
Im not sure this is illegal or not to post this link.

http://albert-david.blogspot.com/2010/10/r...ice-mi-300.html

as i found out that.. Backup method..

    * cat /dev/mtd/mtd0 > /sdcard/bkup.mdt0.boot
    * cat /dev/mtd/mtd1 > /sdcard/bkup.mdt1.misc
    * cat /dev/mtd/mtd2 > /sdcard/bkup.mdt2.splash
    * cat /dev/mtd/mtd3 > /sdcard/bkup.mdt3.recovery
    * cat /dev/mtd/mtd4 > /sdcard/bkup.mdt4.ftm
    * cat /dev/mtd/mtd5 > /sdcard/bkup.mdt5.hidden
    * cat /dev/mtd/mtd6 > /sdcard/bkup.mdt6.dgbmask
    * cat /dev/mtd/mtd7 > /sdcard/bkup.mdt7.system
    * cat /dev/mtd/mtd8 > /sdcard/bkup.mdt8.misc2
    * cat /dev/mtd/mtd9 > /sdcard/bkup.mdt9.cache
    * cat /dev/mtd/mtd10 > /sdcard/bkup.mdt10.userdata

isnt the "* cat /dev/mtd/mtd2 > /sdcard/bkup.mdt2.splash" is the boot screen? Im not sure.. just want to ask here..
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Login to your phone using adb or ssh/putty(for this you need QuickSSHd on your phone)
If you login using adb, do 'su' and check your phone for super user confirmation and allow the root access
Now you will have root permission to read your mtd partitions, run the following 11 linux commands to take the backup of all NANDFlash partitions(brief summary of Flash partitions of your phone can be viewed using 'cat /proc/mtd' command)


i dun even know what is adb mode?

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QUOTE(jasonkhoo87 @ Mar 12 2011, 07:10 PM)
I agree with you.. For what u bought this kind of phone without tweaking to the maximum limit right.. smile.gif

I used to be Symbian lover before. until now..  but, i want to play with android also..

Now i get confuse.. I know rooting the phone is easy. But, choosing the right custom firmware are difficult..

As I google many, i found there several custom like

1. firetrap twonight
2. cyanogenmod nightbuild
3. firetrap jellybean
4. froyo phantom king sky fish
5. bakpia cokelat
6. superbler
7. cmeclair

these i found compatible with the spice mi-300 (correct me if im wrong).. I know there diffrerent between power usage, keyboard, interface.
can i have some info through this?  i read the previous post but, what i get only tye benchmark about some of the custom above..
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Actually no one can really tell you which is the best rom. The only way is to test it yourself. If majority of users are cursing a certain rom, then you could safely conclude it is not worth trying

Different people has different needs of their smartphones -and different roms has their own strengths and weakness. A rom which is good for example gaming will lose out on its battery usage. If battery usage is critical, then avoid those which majority users is complaining about this. Example for me, battery usage is the last of my worry cos I always have up to 2 spare batteries for ALL my smartphones. It is never a fctor for me when comes to roms. Some people wants a responsive browser while some feel is not important. Some people like certain roms cos it comes builtin with additional apps. Some like certain roms cos of its UI design etc etc
A important factor for me in selecting my rom is how the rom installs apps onto the ext SD card . This is important cos of limited memory in the mi300. The present rom Phantom KIng v1 which I am now using installs apps onto the hidden EXT4 partition which is very much better than other roms that install on the open FAT32 partition. Installing apps directly onto ext4 also means releasing a lot of extra space on internal-storage memory. For the same no of apps, I save back close to 70 MB

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QUOTE(benny888 @ Mar 12 2011, 06:59 PM)

Added on March 12, 2011, 7:09 pm
I am now answering specifically this question. I have posted earlier, if one has NEVER yet flash any rom - use ROM MANAGER to do a backup of your original rom.
You can always go back to this backup - it restore 101% if 100 % is not good enough, meaning you will get to see the original CSL splash screens

I have only been on the i300 for 3 days only. In these 3 days I have tested 3 roms. And I discovered one thing

Once you flash a cook rom ontop of stock, even after you reflash back stock you will see splash screen of the previous rom ( just a brief 1-2 seconds ) before the CSL splash screen. The best way to remove this previous rom splash screen is to clear cache partition, clear dalvikm cache, clear data and factory reset before you flash back stock. When the stock rom is successfully booted. go back to recovery and clear all cache partition, dalvik cache again
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sorry bro.. smile.gif releks a bit. i want to ask.. instead of using the z4root which need online to root my spice. can i use the "super oneclick v1.7"to root my device. then install the "ROM Manager" and do the backup of original ROM??

Thanks for the useful reply..

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