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CKJMark
post Feb 22 2011, 09:27 AM

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QUOTE(-YS- @ Feb 22 2011, 04:48 AM)
Guys, is it that scary for an Auditor's life ? I read across many forums and it's purely negative comments about it! My god, how can we mentally and physically prepare for it?
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I think all professional service lines are like this. We all have long hours; doctors, lawyers, engineers, accountants, etc. It's all part and parcel of the service line.

Why do you get so much negative comments? I guess perhaps because its a service industry. You work with bosses that overwork/underhire. Your clients sometimes treat you like crap. As a senior your staff drive you nuts. As a staff your senior is a slavedriver lol.

Every job has its bad points and more often than not, one bad experience will stand out over 10 good experiences?

During my time with the audit firm, yes we work very very late. But sometimes it was a lot of fun because when we work late, people tend to let their hair down and have a bit more fun while they work. It depends very much on your team you work with.

You really can't prepare for it. But to get through it, two things are very important; the moral support from your family and friends, and your immediate senior's support. Often I find that those who give up will usually have naggy parents ("aiyoh ah girl, why you never come home dinner") and whiny gf/bf ("yerrrrrr you never spend time with me anymore"). When you have that combo, it doesn't help your stress level at all.
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post Feb 22 2011, 12:16 PM

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Can anyone tell me what is the first 4 digit of EY phone number? so that i can be prepared if they call me....jz in case tongue.gif
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post Feb 22 2011, 12:24 PM

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Can anyone tell me what is the first 4 digit of EY phone number? so that i can be prepared if they call me....jz in case  tongue.gif
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Google la ==
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post Feb 22 2011, 01:29 PM

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QUOTE(CKJMark @ Feb 22 2011, 09:27 AM)
I think all professional service lines are like this.  We all have long hours; doctors, lawyers, engineers, accountants, etc.  It's all part and parcel of the service line.

Why do you get so much negative comments?  I guess perhaps because its a service industry.  You work with bosses that overwork/underhire.  Your clients sometimes treat you like crap.  As a senior your staff drive you nuts.  As a staff your senior is a slavedriver lol.

Every job has its bad points and more often than not, one bad experience will stand out over 10 good experiences?

During my time with the audit firm, yes we work very very late.  But sometimes it was a lot of fun because when we work late, people tend to let their hair down and have a bit more fun while they work.  It depends very much on your team you work with.

You really can't prepare for it.  But to get through it, two things are very important; the moral support from your family and friends, and your immediate senior's support.  Often I find that those who give up will usually have naggy parents ("aiyoh ah girl, why you never come home dinner") and whiny gf/bf ("yerrrrrr you never spend time with me anymore").  When you have that combo, it doesn't help your stress level at all.
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Thanks CKJMark bro for your experience talk, points noted smile.gif
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post Feb 22 2011, 01:46 PM

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laugh.gif i heard tat from a fren in a big 4 in sibu,sarawak..pay's RM 1.7k per month..care to join with tat low pay?..  brows.gif  brows.gif
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It really is that low in East Malaysia, I can confirm that. Had a staff seconded to me once from there.

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Guys, is it that scary for an Auditor's life ? I read across many forums and it's purely negative comments about it! My god, how can we mentally and physically prepare for it?


Yeah it really is, plus since you're joining GFS, all the more so brows.gif


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Can anyone tell me what is the first 4 digit of EY phone number? so that i can be prepared if they call me....jz in case

Calls from EY comes out as 7495 8000
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post Feb 22 2011, 01:48 PM

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QUOTE(Nomad_mercenary @ Feb 22 2011, 01:46 PM)
It really is that low in East Malaysia, I can confirm that. Had a staff seconded to me once from there.
Yeah it really is, plus since you're joining GFS, all the more so  brows.gif
Calls from EY comes out as 7495 8000
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Are you from EY as well bro?
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post Feb 22 2011, 01:51 PM

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Yes, probably not for too long more though, hopefully
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post Feb 22 2011, 01:54 PM

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hihi, anyone from EY? can help me send resume for my application cause recruitment.hr@my.ey.com took very long to process
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post Feb 22 2011, 01:58 PM

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If I'm not mistaken, March intake is roughly finalized.
If you join in April 2011, your progression will only come Oct 2012; March intake progression is Oct 2011.

I'd recommend trying for PwC honestly.
PwC bonus 100%, EY 60%/40%
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post Feb 22 2011, 02:00 PM

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QUOTE(Nomad_mercenary @ Feb 22 2011, 01:58 PM)
If I'm not mistaken, March intake is roughly finalized.
If you join in April 2011, your progression will only come Oct 2012; March intake progression is Oct 2011.

I'd recommend trying for PwC honestly.
PwC bonus 100%, EY 60%/40%
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Yes, that's why the hr strongly recommend me to join March 2011.
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post Feb 22 2011, 02:03 PM

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QUOTE(-YS- @ Feb 22 2011, 02:00 PM)
Yes, that's why the hr strongly recommend me to join March 2011.
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Yeah, scare will miss the promotion, as cut off is in march
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hi, I'm new here. I wanna ask a few questions that may be asked before. I went thru the previous pages but there weren't exact answers..

1. I'm planning to enter pwc if i can.. So when is their recruitment and when shud i send in my resume?

2. I've heard from my frens tat good co curricular records does help. So.. Does it?

3. Normally how long do i have to wait after i submitted my application?

Thanks in advance.
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post Feb 22 2011, 02:37 PM

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QUOTE(botakbin @ Feb 22 2011, 02:26 PM)
hi, I'm new here. I wanna ask a few questions that may be asked before. I went thru the previous pages but there weren't exact answers..

1. I'm planning to enter pwc if i can.. So when is their recruitment and when shud i send in my resume?

2. I've heard from my frens tat good co curricular records does help. So.. Does it?

3. Normally how long do i have to wait after i submitted my application?

Thanks in advance.
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2) Yes, the accounting firms are competitive in terms of sports. If you have a good record of being active in atheletics, soccer, basketball, tennis, badminton, etc, it lends some weight. Also, depending on what you did for co-curicular activities, it could lend some weight as it would reflect your experiences in managing people and events. It's not a deal breaker, but it does help your application.


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QUOTE(CKJMark @ Feb 22 2011, 02:37 PM)
2) Yes, the accounting firms are competitive in terms of sports.  If you have a good record of being active in atheletics, soccer, basketball, tennis, badminton, etc, it lends some weight.  Also, depending on what you did for co-curicular activities, it could lend some weight as it would reflect your experiences in managing people and events.  It's not a deal breaker, but it does help your application.
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Hmmm thanks a lot. Wondering whether the inter firm games have table tennis?
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post Feb 22 2011, 02:41 PM

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During my time, yes. Snooker, carrom, darts and netball too. But sometimes they drop events if there is a lack of participation

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QUOTE(CKJMark @ Feb 22 2011, 02:41 PM)
During my time, yes.  Snooker, carrom, darts and netball too.  But sometimes they drop events if there is a lack of participation
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thanks for ur quick reply. Currently stil taking acca. Just got my results ysrday. I'm planning to apply after this semester, probably studying part time for my last paper when i work.
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post Feb 22 2011, 04:34 PM

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Hi all smile.gif i'm a fresh grad with a degree in accounting & finance..was thinking of entering big 4..just wondering if professional papers like ACCA,etc is compulsary or do we have a choice to pursue it or not once recruited?and which big 4 is practicing it?thanks in advance..any feedback is welcome smile.gif
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QUOTE(Jannie87 @ Feb 22 2011, 04:34 PM)
Hi all smile.gif i'm a fresh grad with a degree in accounting & finance..was thinking of entering big 4..just wondering if professional papers like ACCA,etc is compulsary or do we have a choice  to pursue it or not once recruited?and which big 4 is practicing it?thanks in advance..any feedback is welcome smile.gif
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hi there.

yes, ALL big fours would require you to take up professional papers if you are applying for a professional position (advisory consultant, tax consultant, auditor). hope this clears. however, you are allowed to choose your own professional course such as ACCA, MICPA, ICAA, ICAEW or CPA Australia as long as the professional course is directly relates to your position. good luck.
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post Feb 22 2011, 05:06 PM

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In EY, for tax department, it is not compulsory for you to have a professional paper. It is recommended that you do, but it is not a must. But if you opt for it, the firm will sponsor you in return for a bond.
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Thanks for the input,Jenatic & CKJMark..noted smile.gif was thinking of audit associate in EY though..but do we have to take up the professional paper right after we start working or do they give a time frame?what if i'm not interested in taking the professional paper?LOL..will i have lower chance of getting into big4?

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