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 Big 4 Recruitment Drive_v2, All things Big 4 + others

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post Feb 16 2011, 09:06 AM

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QUOTE(fastreader @ Feb 14 2011, 08:10 PM)
consulting line?..u mean like go from the audit line to the consulting line (advisory) for a try out?... hmm.gif
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I meant "consulting" as in audit or tax in general, i.e. non-commercial.


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QUOTE(morgana_jara @ Feb 15 2011, 12:02 AM)
The non-cash benefit for partners is insanely good actually (first hand heard from two partners). But I suppose it's a non-issue considering that not many will make it that high tongue.gif
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Partner's benefits are a moot point because they are the owners. Also they pump in capital into the business so they do have certain perks. I am not sure if you can still term them as "benefits" for partners given that they are effectively paying out of their own pockets tongue.gif

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post Feb 16 2011, 10:25 AM

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Got a phone call confirming the job offer of ITRA associate at EY about half an hour ago with starting pay of RM 2700 (asked for RM2500). biggrin.gif

Bring on the slogging and grinding. cool2.gif

Also greetings and thank you to any seniors who have been seeding the lowyat threads with helpful information (mentioned the threads in lowyat during my interview, I think it helped). rclxms.gif

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post Feb 16 2011, 10:31 AM

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Does anyone here know when is the PwC next intake? applied job with PwC on Dec last year....but still no news from them...no email, no call... sad.gif
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QUOTE(xDingx @ Feb 16 2011, 10:31 AM)
Does anyone here know when is the PwC next intake? applied job with PwC on Dec last year....but still no news from them...no email, no call...  sad.gif
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next intake 1st march, iinm, full jor
Wait for the 1st june intake then.
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post Feb 16 2011, 01:51 PM

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Anyone going for interview @ EY tmr afternoon?
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post Feb 16 2011, 06:34 PM

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Hi,

I would like to know which is a better option? EY or Crowe Horwath?

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post Feb 16 2011, 06:39 PM

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QUOTE(caspertan @ Feb 16 2011, 07:34 PM)
Hi,

I would like to know which is a better option? EY or Crowe Horwath?
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In terms of reputation, EY hands down.
If you plan to go to the commercial line, they will definitely discount your experience, coz "you're not from a Big 4".

Within EY/PwC, plenty of non-big 4 who come in so that they can say they have Big 4 experience.
Whether the added prestige is perceived or not, well, that's not the point, if potential employer wants something on your resume, you better have it to have at least a fighting chance.

Goodluck!
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post Feb 16 2011, 08:33 PM

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QUOTE(Nomad_mercenary @ Feb 16 2011, 06:39 PM)
In terms of reputation, EY hands down.
If you plan to go to the commercial line, they will definitely discount your experience, coz "you're not from a Big 4".

Within EY/PwC, plenty of non-big 4 who come in so that they can say they have Big 4 experience.
Whether the added prestige is perceived or not, well, that's not the point, if potential employer wants something on your resume, you better have it to have at least a fighting chance.

Goodluck!
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Thanks for the info. I understand reputation from a well-known firm has more advantage over the less-familiar ones. But still, Crowe Horwath is also an international firm. But, will there be any differences in the benefits for their employees or the learning process in the firm?

Of course, money is what matters most. Which has a higher pay? drool.gif

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post Feb 16 2011, 08:47 PM

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Learning process depends on your luck I'd say, depending on your superior (either senior or manager or above).

Some seniors throw juniors a file and ask to re-perform like last year's work; others sit down and coach.

Benefits-wise = generally there aren't many in an accounting firm LOL...no matter which one you end up choosing

Pay-wise = If I'm not wrong, the likes of BDO et al pay a bit of a premium but, like I mentioned before, if longer term you are looking to move into commercial, non-big 4 experience gets discounted. a LOT.

starting pay EY is RM2700, BDO is RM2.8k/RM2.9k if I'm not mistaken, Crowe Horwarth I wouldn't know.

I'd advocate a longer term view; what is RM100 or RM200 extra/mth compared to increased bargaining power in the future...

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QUOTE(Nomad_mercenary @ Feb 16 2011, 08:47 PM)
Learning process depends on your luck I'd say, depending on your superior (either senior or manager or above).

Some seniors throw juniors a file and ask to re-perform like last year's work; others sit down and coach.

Benefits-wise = generally there aren't many in an accounting firm LOL...no matter which one you end up choosing

Pay-wise = If I'm not wrong, the likes of BDO et al pay a bit of a premium but, like I mentioned before, if longer term you are looking to move into commercial, non-big 4 experience gets discounted. a LOT.

starting pay EY is RM2700, BDO is RM2.8k/RM2.9k if I'm not mistaken, Crowe Horwarth I wouldn't know.

I'd advocate a longer term view; what is RM100 or RM200 extra/mth compared to increased bargaining power in the future...
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Thanks again for all the explanations. I understand the benefits though, endless OT and treated like ants. LOL!!

I know Big4 is a very good opportunity whether in present term or future term. The thing is I got called for an interview by both of this firm. The main problem is that I have 2 subjects which is still pending for result. Crowe Horwath called in for an interview, but EY only need the industrial training result (which is the subjects and module) in order for me to have an interview and which is a 100% must on the result. A big headache for me. I need to call my uni tomorrow to ask them to process the result faster. rclxub.gif

Before I got the call from EY, I was happy with CH, since I got the interview with an international firm. thumbup.gif Have been waiting for replies from Big4 for a few weeks, but none of them called. But after the call today by EY, I was like ohmy.gif . So I'm starting to worry bout the process speed for my result.

And more important is how do I tackle with the interview? I know it's not easy.

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QUOTE(caspertan @ Feb 16 2011, 09:30 PM)
Thanks again for all the explanations. I understand the benefits though, endless OT and treated like ants. LOL!!

I know Big4 is a very good opportunity whether in present term or future term. The thing is I got called for an interview by both of this firm. The main problem is that I have 2 subjects which is still pending for result. Crowe Horwath called in for an interview, but EY only need the industrial training result (which is the subjects and module) in order for me to have an interview and which is a 100% must on the result. A big headache for me. I need to call my uni tomorrow to ask them to process the result faster.  rclxub.gif

Before I got the call from EY, I was happy with CH, since I got the interview with an international firm. thumbup.gif  Have been waiting for replies from Big4 for a few weeks, but none of them called. But after the call today by EY, I was like ohmy.gif . So I'm starting to worry bout the process speed for my result.

And more important is how do I tackle with the interview? I know it's not easy.
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post Feb 17 2011, 10:57 AM

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Salary has been revised for the big 4's..for freshie pay now is RM2.8k..I think PWC offers RM2.9k..
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QUOTE(andrienne @ Feb 17 2011, 07:41 AM)
When I was interviewed, my official results were not with me (still not with me now..gotta wait till september  sweat.gif )...don't get overly worried bout it. Do let them know if you have any difficulties in obtaining the results before your interview date as they are very understanding people  smile.gif  Which deparment you're applying for? Search around LYN for threads on the general preparations for interview. Also, know some common things/general knowledge of the department/job scope you're applying for so that you'll be able to answer them when asked. All the best for your interview(s)  thumbup.gif
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I'm applying for audit associate. All in JB branch though. I'm not worried bout CH since I got the interview. What I'm worried is that, EY won't interview me unless that I have the final 2 subjects result. I've asked them if they could give me an interview first or something then I show them after a couple of weeks (results will be out by then). Still waiting for replies though.

Thanks. notworthy.gif I've got a half year's of audit experience and the things learned is still fresh in my mind. I'll try to get more knowledge before I go for the interview.

And, what if I do get the job in CH and the interview with EY is after that. I think it would be a waste not to try for EY's interview. Advices anyone? How do I choose? I'm worried that I failed in EY's interview and I'd lose the CH job offer too in the end. rclxub.gif



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Hi guys, i went to interview in EY and i wasn't told about the salary, and i was asked to wait for the result within a week, is it a bad sign or good? I did have a good chat with the interviewer and i think i did ok ?
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Hi guys, i went to interview in EY and i wasn't told about the salary, and i was asked to wait for the result within a week, is it a bad sign or good? I did have a good chat with the interviewer and i think i did ok ?
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High chances of getting through. No worries dude, Big 4 ain't that 'Big' anyway! biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(anderson2009 @ Feb 17 2011, 04:50 PM)
High chances of getting through. No worries dude, Big 4 ain't that 'Big' anyway! biggrin.gif
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Thank you! your words comfort me smile.gif
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QUOTE(ksoon @ Feb 17 2011, 10:57 AM)
Salary has been revised for the big 4's..for freshie pay now is RM2.8k..I think PWC offers RM2.9k..
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2.9k for degree only or degree with ACCA? Peers of alike joining workforce with degree is getting lower than said salary.
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QUOTE(ksoon @ Feb 17 2011, 10:57 AM)
Salary has been revised for the big 4's..for freshie pay now is RM2.8k..I think PWC offers RM2.9k..
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PwC offers 2.7k for fresh grad.
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QUOTE(caspertan @ Feb 17 2011, 04:25 PM)
And, what if I do get the job in CH and the interview with EY is after that. I think it would be a waste not to try for EY's interview. Advices anyone? How do I choose? I'm worried that I failed in EY's interview and I'd lose the CH job offer too in the end.  rclxub.gif
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I'd say just go for it; within CH should be the same as everywhere else, as a new joiner you can resign with 24 hours notice. If EY offer starts later than CH, if I were you, I'd work with CH first, then quit 1 week before I am due to start in EY, say Friday, chill for 1 week, then start with EY on Monday haha.....earn money instead of bumming around

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is that the case also in regional office? the 2.9 k salary
if by regional you mean branch, usually at branch it's lower.
If you're in East Malaysia it's MUCH lower.

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Hey guys, i have got offer from EY. GFS Audit, 2.7 starting smile.gif Cheers!



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