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 Big 4 Recruitment Drive_v2, All things Big 4 + others

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jenatic
post Feb 21 2011, 02:51 PM

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QUOTE(fastreader @ Feb 20 2011, 07:25 PM)
they're very new i guess...need ur endless guidance and support.. smile.gif one more months and the peak would be ligther... rclxms.gif
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its only 3rd week of feb. a more month and the peak would be lighter?? dude, which firm are you in? can join?
jenatic
post Feb 22 2011, 12:37 AM

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QUOTE(fastreader @ Feb 21 2011, 07:26 PM)
laugh.gif i heard tat from a fren in a big 4 in sibu,sarawak..pay's RM 1.7k per month..care to join with tat low pay?..  brows.gif  brows.gif
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so lemme put it straight, you're not even in the audit line and the 1 more month thing as represented by you earlier is just a hearsay from your part, a friend from sibu? sorry, if you were wondering why i was just assuming you are not in the audit line, its because of the lack of professional skeptism.
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post Feb 22 2011, 04:43 PM

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QUOTE(Jannie87 @ Feb 22 2011, 04:34 PM)
Hi all smile.gif i'm a fresh grad with a degree in accounting & finance..was thinking of entering big 4..just wondering if professional papers like ACCA,etc is compulsary or do we have a choice  to pursue it or not once recruited?and which big 4 is practicing it?thanks in advance..any feedback is welcome smile.gif
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hi there.

yes, ALL big fours would require you to take up professional papers if you are applying for a professional position (advisory consultant, tax consultant, auditor). hope this clears. however, you are allowed to choose your own professional course such as ACCA, MICPA, ICAA, ICAEW or CPA Australia as long as the professional course is directly relates to your position. good luck.
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post Feb 24 2011, 08:47 AM

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QUOTE(Jannie87 @ Feb 22 2011, 07:55 PM)
Thanks for the input,Jenatic & CKJMark..noted smile.gif was thinking of audit associate in EY though..but do we have to take up the professional paper right after we start working or do they give a time frame?what if i'm not interested in taking the professional paper?LOL..will i have lower chance of getting into big4?
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unfortunately, you'd have to take up professional papers. usually, there will always be a clause in your employment contract which states that you agree to take up a professional course in close relation to your job function. if you are not interested in taking professional paper, just keep it to yourself and delay the registeration as much as you can. theoritically, you will have lower chance to get into a big4.

but these registerations of professional paper is usually only done once you are confirmed (3 months upon joining). so u can actually defer longer if u want to. although i dont see a point of doing so smile.gif if you are already into the audit line, you may as well take up the paper or you wont go far (AM the highest?)


QUOTE(lltee @ Feb 22 2011, 07:57 PM)
Hi, I need some advices from seniors here.

Im fresh graduate, is it good to start work in a small or medium audit firm for about 1 year first before applying a job in big 4s or straight away apply a job in big 4s? This is because I want to get some exposures on how the audit works actually like since I dont hav intern program in my degree course. Through this, I think the experience will help me to mentally n physically prepared for the works in big 4s.
Thanks in advance for the advices.
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imo, i think you should just go straight to a Big 4. Many people argue that if you go into small medium firm u get to see the whole books where in big 4, you will only do section auditing. Not exactly true. Below's why.

On section auditing, to a certain extent i agree. As a 1st year or 1st 6 month joiner, we dont expect you to be able to do the entire audit on your own (unless the company is very dormant). U will however be entrusted to lead and complete the entire audit of a single standalone company once you have done 1 year. only in very rare circumstances that even 1 year, you arent given a job on your own (it means mgmt dont think u are capable enough).

on small medium firm practice: no offence to anyone who is attached to the category of firms, but from my observation, usually medium and small firms have very minimum focus on internal control. as our audit usually involve in alot of control testing, lack of experience in this phase is actually quite disadvantaging. hence, the story about "small medium firm, see the whole book earlier" is bollock imo. In anycase, small medium firm's client are usually much smaller and less complicated (most insurance and bank and construction cos , at least the major ones are audited by big 4). so how are you gonna substantiate the story that small medium firm can see more things?

i stand to be corrected.

QUOTE(HaoYuan @ Feb 22 2011, 08:15 PM)
hey, what if completed degree but waiting for result which will release on March, can i apply for job now? or need to wait till the result out only i can apply big 4
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u can apply now. if anything, applying now further shows u are forwrad thinking. a very important aspect of auditor despite our job is to deal with histroical figures.

i got my offer even before i commenced my final semester.

good luck guys!

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