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 Big 4 Recruitment Drive_v2, All things Big 4 + others

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post Jan 8 2011, 10:51 PM

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QUOTE(Topace111 @ Jan 8 2011, 05:08 PM)
Internal audit is audit done for the purpose of management. Meaning in lay man term, Me (as a boss) hire an internal auditor to check where my operations has gone wrong and rectify them. I determine their scope of work and what to check. They report to me. As such internal audit is rarely outsourced to other companies being nobody will do such a thing due to nature of job. Its rather they just hire the staff straight into their internal audit dept. Those firms you hear like Big4s are more into external auditing.

But internal audit is a non-obligatory job and if its part of the firm's offering it may fall under advisory.

Advisory is basicly a value added service which centres on advising client what to do, rectify problems and offer solutions. The post are normally suitable for experienced people as they are more mature in thinking and experienced in daily life and work. Do you want a 25 year old telling a 40 year old what to do even if he is a MBA graduate ? Some people can but due to egoism, this is quite difficult. This is where art of communication comes in which are advisors / consultants forte.

One advisor once told me what is like. Imagine a datuk/director/CEO ask you something like "What will happen to my company's profit if I implement this or that?" Consultants will need to think of something in less than 5 seconds and come out with an answer. Real time reaction he called it or bluffing skills. Act as though you know eventhough you may not know. A popular insider jokes circulating among consultants is the word consulting comes from the word "con".

And the first thing to become a good advisor/consultant you also need to be a good researcher. Your attitude evidently is uninspiring at the moment but things aren't easy anyway.
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post Jan 9 2011, 01:42 AM

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Does anyone know what is the best way to apply in Big4's in sg?

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QUOTE(Materazzi @ Jan 8 2011, 09:58 PM)
Thks alots , but ==" PWC got provide arh? E&Y seem ... far away from cheras area ><"
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post Jan 9 2011, 11:09 AM

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QUOTE(ThanatosSwiftfire @ Jan 4 2011, 11:12 AM)
Interestingly, I heard fresh new joiners are getting close to 3k in EY/KPMG. Anyone can confirm these hearsays?
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Hmm fresh grad with acca would be 2850 in kp.. Their pay revision for all levels seems to be quite a jump xd. With the additional allowance for jan-apr..hey, peak might not be too bad afterall with the monetary incentive;).. But o well, i guess its compensation for the lower bonus we get:|
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QUOTE(Raymond_ACCA @ Jan 9 2011, 11:09 AM)
Hmm fresh grad with acca would be 2850 in kp.. Their pay revision for all levels seems to be quite a jump xd. With the additional allowance for jan-apr..hey, peak might not be too bad afterall with the monetary incentive;).. But o well, i guess its compensation for the lower bonus we get:|
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Bet that e-audit allowance is a reclass from our bonus doh.gif
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post Jan 9 2011, 06:21 PM

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QUOTE(Raymond_ACCA @ Jan 9 2011, 11:09 AM)
Hmm fresh grad with acca would be 2850 in kp.. Their pay revision for all levels seems to be quite a jump xd. With the additional allowance for jan-apr..hey, peak might not be too bad afterall with the monetary incentive;).. But o well, i guess its compensation for the lower bonus we get:|
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2850? i heard only 2800.
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post Jan 9 2011, 09:38 PM

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I heard 3k for fresh grad from KP too, somemore with allowance? Gosh, no increase salary nor allowance provided for Peak. I need more inspirations to keep my motivation....

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post Jan 9 2011, 10:23 PM

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anyone here applied for pwc and got any reply from them?
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post Jan 10 2011, 02:57 AM

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QUOTE(lilster @ Jan 9 2011, 10:23 PM)
anyone here applied for pwc and got any reply from them?
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Could be they're not really looking for workers right now since they just finished recruitment for feb/march intake... If you're worried, you should email and ask them about your application smile.gif
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post Jan 10 2011, 10:36 AM

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best way to apply big 4 in SG is to pass your cv to your frined who is wokring there.

else try online which will get quite some time to response except ur results are outstanding.


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QUOTE(morgana_jara @ Jan 10 2011, 02:57 AM)
Could be they're not really looking for workers right now since they just finished recruitment for feb/march intake... If you're worried, you should email and ask them about your application smile.gif
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really? i thought their previous intake was in dec and their next one will be at march. i think i will wait another week before i call them
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post Jan 10 2011, 11:44 AM

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Erm, go singapore go singapore. pay is much better, client is more competent, deadlines are worse, and life just overall sucks a bit more.
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post Jan 11 2011, 12:01 AM

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QUOTE(lilster @ Jan 10 2011, 11:36 AM)
really? i thought their previous intake was in dec and their next one will be at march. i think i will wait another week before i call them
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I think they recruit early for march intake to nab the students before they graduate. That's the impression I got, some of my friends had an offer to join pwc even before their final exams...
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post Jan 13 2011, 12:31 PM

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PEAK PERIOD. STRESSSS
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post Jan 13 2011, 02:51 PM

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just want to ask a quick question...i have been through the entire interview process with one of the big 4 for advisory associate position. called up HR for follow up and i was told that my application shouldn't be a problem and is now pending approval from upper authority...just wondering, will there be any possibility that i wouldn't be approved?
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post Jan 13 2011, 03:02 PM

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Yes.
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post Jan 13 2011, 03:10 PM

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QUOTE(ThanatosSwiftfire @ Jan 13 2011, 03:02 PM)
Yes.
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thank you for your reply smile.gif i was a bit worried about the waiting period because i called last monday and it's thursday and they have yet to get back to me.

i was wondering whether to wait for the confirmation or accept the job offer(s) i got now because i would prefer to be in advisory than other dept. sigh....so many things to think of!

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post Jan 14 2011, 03:57 PM

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Auditors, dying from stress already or not?
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post Jan 14 2011, 05:52 PM

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QUOTE(lalazaiaccountant @ Jan 14 2011, 03:57 PM)
Auditors, dying from stress already or not?
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some of the clients management account are still not ready yet..so clearing their dormant now.. tongue.gif
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QUOTE(ThanatosSwiftfire @ Jan 13 2011, 12:31 PM)
PEAK PERIOD. STRESSSS
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4th peak you've encountered so far? Hehehe

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