no offence Drian, but did you really check in details all those items in depth? Lighting points , who knows he re-wire the whole house with better quality wires? Even the downlights, a better built d/l cost $30 a piece as opposed to maybe 10 ringgit one... Built-in wardrobe, a melamine board any plywood won't be the same, same goes to what solid surface(local or samsung makes a huge difference) he has chosen? Yes, unless we compare apple to apple, hard to tell really if he has paid 100K more premium than the usual..

btw. The most cut-throat item in my whole reno quotation is the tiles actually...by getting the tiles myself i'm saving at least 40%-50% of the cost quoted from my ID... Anyhow in general i do agree that by engaging ID it cost more than dealing direct, but when you don't have much time to follow through the entire renovation period , engaging ID is the key and it becomes a necessity.

This post has been edited by numbertwo: Dec 1 2010, 03:40 PM

I believe, a renovation cost RM150k and need to top up another RM100k, is not a simple renovation just about tile or wardrobe, there must be a lot of thing involve, like what numbertwo say, re-wiring for whole house, or may be change a whole house piping, change roof and doing a lot of work above the ceiling which you cant see, and so on so on.

This post has been edited by Eleganz Concept: Dec 1 2010, 03:48 PM

Yes. it's an estimate but definitely not 100K extra in price.
For downlight using those aluminium 4inch and 6 inch downlight, no glass. cost approximately RM13-Rm18 a piece from lighting distributor.
Better quality wires? It's just standard 1.5mm and 2.5mm wires that comes with PVC piping. What do you mean by better quality wires, made out of gold? Build in wardrobe using standard Melamine board. Guest room using standard furniture shop wardrobe. Solid surface local RM150 , samsung 280-320 pfr. Total 14 feet top , it's either Rm1500 extra or Rm1500 cheaper. Even if it's a red apple to green apple comparison the premium should not come up to 100k.


When I ask how is it breaked down , they do not know because it was charged one lump sum by area tpe.

Wow, that is horrible, if able to post thier quotation here to show, then may be can saw some item that cant be see from surface.

Agree. lighting only use 1.5mm wires and power point using 2.5mm wires.

If "quality", maybe use double P (PVC/PVC/Cu) but very very rare... no 1 using this unless for outdoor armoured cables (autogate).

anyway lighting points are counted per point... there is a market rate but cant remember... during my time was only Rm20-25 per lighting point

9 feets wet kitchen $1300 ( i supply 2x2)
relocation of piping $300
hacking and lay new wall tiles( that portion) $300
* all others mats he bao.


Water proofing 3rd floor balcony, and lay tiles
he supply tiles and mats $450


Dry kitchen $7800 , without kitchen top(havent decide granite or Corian, if Corian, probably get direct from TSI-MrStuar)

More pix n progress in my camera...above pix from fone


This post has been edited by dopp: Dec 1 2010, 07:09 PM

wow nice man
how long (feet)for your dry kitchen measurement for this quotation? nice quotation too

love the kitchen design

u got an ID?

I ID myself, the carpenter just draw wat i wanted.
dry kitchen exact measurement is on the pic

cool, seems like those ID in penang can tapau d ahha

9ft concrete table you mean? RM144/ft? with leg or without leg? some ID charge RM140/ft included 2' x 2' homogenouse tile price around RM20

$90- $110 penang also can get.

This is $150/fr.. .3 concrete slab legs 2x2 I buy myself, leg and bottom part of wall tiles... he supply.

After numerous post here in Lowyat, i thought i would share something nice for those of you who are looking to renovate your house.

I'll tell you my story. I am extremely satisfied after purchasing from FO Sin Aluminium Dan Kaca Sdn Bhd over 20 years! I met the boss of Fo Sin / New Way and it changed my life be it in real estate renovation business or my personal financing life. I saved LOTS in renovating houses of my rental properties.

I'll personally share and tell you how to get cheap curtain accessories etc in Malaysia. I have done this to 40-50 of my rental properties. THE CHEAPEST way to install curtain in your house.

All you need is
1) Curtain Railings (Aluminium <-- the best and last long)
2) Curtain Brackets (To hold railings)
3) Curtain Rollers (Self explanatory)
4) Curtain Hooks (Self Explanatory)
5) Curtain End Cap (To prevent rollers from sliding out)
6) Curtains

You can get item 1 to item 5 from:
Fo Sin Aluminium Dan Kaca Sdn Bhd
Address: No 850, Batu 4 1/2, Jalan Ipoh, 51200 Kuala Lumpur. (opposite of CIMB , MayBank, Am Bank)
Phone: 03-62577860

They are the manufacturer, distributor of aluminium extruded products. You won;t get it anywhere cheaper in malaysia. They supply to all curtain shops. Been there many times, extremely satisfied. Just thought of giving some opinion!

Try it and you'll know!


IMPORTANT TIP: Once you arrived at the retail shop, you'll see New Way Trading (Selling curtain accessories) at first floor, try not to go there. They are the same as Fo Sin Aluminium Dan Kaca Sdn Bhd. The boss/manager is usually station in Fo Sin (Ground Floor) You'll get a much cheaper price there! Remember!

Or if you really want to visit New Way, Look for Edmond. Go in the glass door and say ypu want to meet Edmond. He's the boss of Fo Sin and New Way. You;ll get a much cheaper price from him than anyone else.
New Way look for: Edmond (Managing Director)
Fo Sin look for: Mr Hong (Managing Director) /Ms Chin (Director)/ Edmond (Director)
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CHEAPEST ALUMINIUM PRODUCTS IN MALAYSIA (Renovators, interior designers please note)

Cheap interior product!

Are you looking to renovate your house? are you looking to purchase aluminium but having trouble finding cheap retailers?

Let me tell you how i purchase all building materials myself and pay for labor cost for renovation in Malaysia for most of my Rental properties.

Similarly, go to Fo Sin Aluminium Dan Kaca Sdn Bhd.

They sell aluminium frames (EVERYTHING IT HAS TO DO WITH ALUMINIUM AND THEY SELL). You'll get the cheapest aluminium in KL since they extrude aluminium from Factory themself. They also sell door locks, sliding door and window rollers, door closer, ceiling Tee!

Give them a call and you'll be surprised how much you can save by purchasing renovation materials yourself and pay for worksmanship only!

Fo Sin Aluminium Dan Kaca Sdn Bhd
Address: No 850, Batu 4 1/2, Jalan Ipoh, 51200 Kuala Lumpur. (opposite of CIMB , MayBank, Am Bank)
Phone: 03-62577860

They Sell:
1) Curtain Aluminium Railings
2) All Aluminium Products
3) Door Frame
4) Window Frame
5)Casement window handle
6) Door Handles
7) Sliding Window/Door Rollers
8) Vinyl Gaskets
9) PVC Gaskets
10) Locksets
11) Door Lock
12) Curtain Accessories
13) Ceiling Tee

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Now i'll tell you how to get cheap timber in malaysia.

Go to CF Timber Trading Sdn Bhd located at Kuchai Lama. They sell cheap timbers!!

Will update once i get their contact details.. left it in my office.

Admin please stick this post if possible. All questions will be answered here regarding cheap building materials in malaysia.

This post has been edited by szeki: Dec 1 2010, 11:19 PM

Another advertisement post...

ya..typical ID quotation, charge by Area , only if you scrutinize the quotation then maybe u could get a better BQ..but 100K extra..that's a sum!

Wah so neat ... mine after hacking the tiles and cement everywhere on the floor.

This post has been edited by Drian: Dec 1 2010, 11:59 PM

must have been cleaned up before snapping pic...

Don't want to ask them any further, don't want to tell them that they've overpaid for their reno cause the seem happy with their house. Somemore they took a small loan for it. Anyway they're those type that do not know much about renovation and the market prices cause when I ask them they don't seem to know much about the fittings they're using like what type of downlight the're using, what brand of solid top they're using etc.

This is just a reminder to people out there just to do lots of survey to find out the market prices.
I have one contractor who quote me RM1650 to install 3 ceiling ventilation fan (ventilation fan provided by myself). LOL even installing aircond is cheaper than it.

Cant see the location, so i guess that price because your fan point is 2 way, so need to have to point for 1 fan, then need to hack a lot, and then need to find tile worker to touch-up the tile. even still a bit expensive, but still able to explain because to so many thing need to be done.