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TSQiW
post Nov 17 2010, 11:46 PM, updated 14y ago

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here is sort of V3 laa ... old thread here .. http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/1313514

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post Nov 18 2010, 09:18 AM

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Should have some opening ceremony. I.e. pilot please post your collection's photo ...... kekekkekekek
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post Nov 18 2010, 10:26 AM

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like that aaahh ..
wait laa .. tonite i try to take some pics of my planes and heli .. hahahaha
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post Nov 18 2010, 11:27 AM

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good good ... want to see ur pylon racer ....
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post Nov 18 2010, 03:09 PM

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Eh dont say like that leh, still into this hobby hehe! Playing with mgcloudfly now and wanted to do aerial videoshot, this plane is for 5 years old, damn relaxing!

Anw qiw, what stuff you bought! Pic pls!! Anw... Muss the old thread la...damn alot of information for newbies from my unofficial sifu QIW. Hehehe

Dadoo whats ur progress now? Invert already?
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post Nov 18 2010, 03:14 PM

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Hehehehehe, preparing to invert tongue.gif
I am ah pek and very slow. Have some inverted flight training in sim but not progressing much. Plan to master in sim then only do that with real heli, I think crashing heli from inverted flight very hurt one, both to pilot and the heli .......

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post Nov 18 2010, 04:34 PM

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i not sifoo laa ... please laa
i just trying to pass on what i know only

no pylon racer laa ... just small little foam/plastic little thing very similar to pylon style
just that it cannot go that fast ... the wings are fluttering ... cannot take so much force when i whack the throttle ... it is SMALL ... even 2200mah 3S go in oso ngam ngam only ... rx and esc put outside the plane

currently only got mustang .. zero .. speedy fast glider .. funjet .. cloudsfly .. little pylon .. others all WIP or in box .. hehehehe
ooopps ... forgot i got 450PRO and 4G6S oso ... huahahahahaa
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post Nov 18 2010, 05:03 PM

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Then you should shoot a photo of Happy Family now ....

Hehehe, I was planned to add more family member next year but now has to cancel my plan due to a personal reason. I will not stop flying but I will reduce the time on rc, will be much much more slower and the slowest ah pek ......
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post Nov 18 2010, 07:11 PM

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QUOTE(daddoo @ Nov 18 2010, 05:03 PM)
Then you should shoot a photo of Happy Family now ....

Hehehe, I was planned to add more family member next year but now has to cancel my plan due to a personal reason. I will not stop flying but I will reduce the time on rc, will be much much more slower and the slowest ah pek ......
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qiw do u know anything abt FPV ?

thought of buying one good one... go pro is bapak mahal!
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post Nov 18 2010, 10:38 PM

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woot new thread finally, opened by someone who i think is qualified lol^^

great

its better to have a HELI avatar for this thread so that i could find it easier. just a opinion anyway^^



i want to ask about the battery buzzer
should i stop playing when the red LEDs come out or when the red LEDs come out and start buzzling?


Added on November 18, 2010, 10:43 pmhope to see some videosssss and photossssss from you guys too^^

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TSQiW
post Nov 19 2010, 01:30 PM

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these are the 2 helis that i currently have remaining ...

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this one of my EX PLANES ... sold off liau

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Added on November 19, 2010, 1:34 pmthis one ... damm fast ... overpowered to over 200kmh .. hehehehe
somebody destroyed this plane liau ... not me la of coz

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this one my 1st CCPM heli ... oso the heli i really learned on .. oso SOLD OFF liau

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post Nov 19 2010, 01:36 PM

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DO NOT BUY THIS HELI !!!!
things will come flying off by itself even if u dont crash it .. hahahahahaa
i traded it off with someone else coz NOBODY wants to BUY ...

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post Nov 19 2010, 01:40 PM

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this is a video of the heli i asked u guys not to buy ..
the gyro u see hovering in this video is about the same price as the KIT alone
this is in AUG 2009 ... i started flying in JUNE 2009




this is the 4G3 in bedroom ... damm bloody bad hovering .. hahahahahaaa
sensitive little bugger




Added on November 19, 2010, 2:23 pm
QUOTE(sLapshock @ Nov 18 2010, 07:11 PM)
qiw do u know anything abt FPV ?

thought of buying one good one... go pro is bapak mahal!
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i have that in WIP
200mW 900mhz system .. but frequency will be set to around 1080mhz to avoid interference with our GSM 012/019 systems
currently working on the pan/tilt on plane ... after that will install antenna and stuff
already got CHEAP goggles ... watchable but of coz not HD quality laa .. hahahahaa
this is the reason i bought the CLOUDSFLY glider ... long flight time and stable handsfree ... hehehehe


Added on November 19, 2010, 2:26 pm
QUOTE(daddoo @ Nov 18 2010, 05:03 PM)
Then you should shoot a photo of Happy Family now ....

Hehehe, I was planned to add more family member next year but now has to cancel my plan due to a personal reason. I will not stop flying but I will reduce the time on rc, will be much much more slower and the slowest ah pek ......
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just fly when u have the time laa ... i oso losing the "keen ness" on this hobby
i spoke to LHS owner yesterday ... he said if u hardcore too much too fast then have to give it a break otherwise the fire will die ... hahahahhaaa

i fly approximately 4-5 times a week ... maybe thats why laaa


Added on November 19, 2010, 2:43 pmsorry ah .. i very bad flyer ... no recent videos ... only got vids of my early days hover hover ... hahahahahaaa

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post Nov 19 2010, 03:38 PM

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I will second the words from the LHS owner ..... I will feel tire fast if I am too hardcore in it.

Why did you tie the landing skid of your 4G6S?

Hehehehehe, nice photo from you lah rclxms.gif rclxms.gif rclxms.gif

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post Nov 20 2010, 11:41 AM

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the fpv... how much altogether>
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post Nov 20 2010, 09:20 PM

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A reference here, http://www.flying-hobby.com/shop/fpv-super...tem-p-7451.html

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post Nov 20 2010, 09:33 PM

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USD 899? wtf.. i rather go perth man.
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post Nov 20 2010, 10:53 PM

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well ... u can start here http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/u...idProduct=12175
all u have to add is CAMERA which u can get locally or import as well laaa
nobody said FPV was cheap .. but it does not have to be super expensive if u just want starter set with limitations laa
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post Nov 20 2010, 11:45 PM

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well, video streaming is already expensive at the first place. Somehow this is a hobby grade video streaming then for sure it will not be cheap ...

But i think u can afford that ... rclxms.gif

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post Nov 21 2010, 01:31 PM

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899 is too expensive unless im maxis owner la hahaha
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post Nov 21 2010, 08:41 PM

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After upgraded the stronger nose gear now my propeller tip is about an inch plus plus only above the ground. It was about 2 inches before mod so hopefully it will be OK later on.
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post Nov 21 2010, 08:41 PM

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QiW,

Im planning on getting this

http://202.157.173.69/?q=node/18447

Do you think its ok for aerial video? for My cloudfly? Will it be too heavy?
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post Nov 22 2010, 12:58 AM

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the weight is no problem for your cloudsfly laaa
why pay so much when u an get this for much much much lesser .. http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/u...idproduct=10973
the only thing u need to change is a higher class microSD coz the one that comes with the cam not fast enuff writing and will cause jitter

any prop more than 1 inch is very OK laaa ... no problems
if u crash head 1st then 10inch off the ground oso cannot help u .. hahahaha
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post Nov 22 2010, 02:03 PM

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QUOTE(QiW @ Nov 22 2010, 12:58 AM)
the weight is no problem for your cloudsfly laaa
why pay so much when u an get this for much much much lesser .. http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/u...idproduct=10973
the only thing u need to change is a higher class microSD coz the one that comes with the cam not fast enuff writing and will cause jitter

any prop more than 1 inch is very OK laaa ... no problems
if u crash head 1st then 10inch off the ground oso cannot help u .. hahahaha
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But its out of stock, know anywhr else to buy? Also how about the video quality?
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post Nov 22 2010, 03:40 PM

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video quality is very good ... i have that thing but i did not change the microSD so the capture is abit jittery .. all u have to do is change the microSD so that it can record faster
format is AVI RAW ... very big file 640x480pixels
but of coz no stereo sound la ... MONO only ... hahahaha
dunno where else to buy laa ... it is oso known as MD80 on other brands .. google and see the comments ... quite good comments for the price
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post Nov 22 2010, 09:58 PM

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I would love my 4G6 till die ....... so much fun to fly this little heli in a small park .... will wait till V120D02 price drop kow kow then will retire my lovely 4G6.

Walau, walkera released their 500 size heli already ... Flybarless too
http://www.walkera.com/en1/particular.jsp?pn=V500D01

But weird, 500 size heli using 315mm blade?????

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post Nov 23 2010, 07:59 AM

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u look at the main rotor diameter laaa ... 970mm laaa ... 500 size already
but dunno why they call their main blades 315mm laaa .. i tot those china fellas very good at counting one .. huahahahahahaa
yaa ... the 4g6 damm kow nice to fly laa .. super good learner too
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post Nov 23 2010, 08:23 AM

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Not just that loh, the battery also using 11.1v 1200maH ONLY!!!

If that motor really so efficient to use so little power for a 500 size heli, I would not consider and buy straight already .......

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post Nov 23 2010, 09:13 AM

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maybe they did not mention flight time is only 2 mins ?? hahahahaa
i think they have a lot of typos in that page laa
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post Nov 23 2010, 09:36 AM

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Anyhow the build quality looks good from the photo, just hope that it will be selling cheaper .... then later on when I can spend more time again I can have an extra option since the Rx is for 2801Pro Tx ......


Added on November 23, 2010, 1:23 pm

Qiw, have you tried to invert your 4G6S?

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post Nov 23 2010, 01:27 PM

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not yet invert my 4g6s ... have to find suitable mood and place .. hehehehe
dont wanna crash that thing yet
but i think it will be soon .........
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post Nov 23 2010, 08:26 PM

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Hehehehe, I have mood and place for me to invert my 4G6 but not ready to do so. A bit worry my tail will lari once inverted.
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post Nov 24 2010, 01:44 PM

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waa ... mr zhnme ... alot of DIY stuff
good ahh ... can learn alot thru DIY
i oso DIY alot of mounts coz overpowered ... but never scratch build planes b4 laa
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post Nov 24 2010, 05:25 PM

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QUOTE(daddoo @ Nov 23 2010, 08:26 PM)
Hehehehe, I have mood and place for me to invert my 4G6 but not ready to do so. A bit worry my tail will lari once inverted.
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AIYA, WORRY THIS WORRY THAT HOW TO LEARN LA
JUST INVERT LA

HAHA
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post Nov 24 2010, 06:09 PM

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Hehehehhe, conservative people always like that one ..... or kiasu tongue.gif
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post Nov 24 2010, 06:46 PM

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kiasu = people who cannot lose

you love your heli, thats why u worry if you crash it


my belt cp always had hard landing because of the belt too loose
i tighten it up again and again, but it still loose, and i couldnt find where to buy that part with 4 screw holes to tighten the tailboom part... what is the part name?

i crashed it because of this again, mange to hard landing but all the part remain no broken a few times before this crash. but that day i flew it too high, dont know if the shaft is bent, but the gear is worn down d

feel disappointed with this heli, no money to repair.. but going to repair it anyhow

by the way i got esky BIG LAMA green color for sale
anyone interested please let me know
rm350 price firm
brand new
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post Nov 24 2010, 09:02 PM

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No, I don't really love my heli but I just love my money ....... huahahhahahahah

the belt loose because the tail boom loosen up and slip into the tail boom block?

If that's the case there might be a super cheap solution. Some of them they will sand the boom's end to lock tight in the block but I found it not so effective and makes it more slippery. What I did last time was to put some transparent tape at the boom's end, the thickness you find out yourself but I only tape 1 piece around the tail boom.
Now I think you can lock the tail boom back to the block without the belt first. Then try to pull your tail boom out gently, if it works for you then you may put your belt back.
It is very hard to show you how I did but I think you will know once you started this mod.



*** Test properly and handle carefully so that you don't break anything ***



Hehehehe, I don't have this issue with me so probably I think it is not the heli's problem ..... maybe you should try to ask the previous owner if he knows anything about this tongue.gif

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post Nov 24 2010, 09:56 PM

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Told ya never buy belt cp, if u bought
trex OR IT CLONES, i bet u already figure of 8 by now! Or maybe flip and rolls.

Forgot to mention the amount of money u saved as u crash less.

But.......belt cp, errrr

Save ur money by change ur hobby or DUMP UR BELT CP first and save money for trex or clones.

Dont repair la, u will crash again without learning anything.


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yalorr .. crashing and repairing more than flying is NOT GOOD at all
u need a heli that is consistent and flies well so that u will not crash it so easily

btw .. mr shock
if u wanna FPV
i see u asking the kwai lohs and the told u to dump your 2.4 radio .. hahahaha
u can still do 2.4 laaa .. just dont use 1.2-.13 coz of harmonics intereference
900 or 5.8 is ok ... preferably 900 coz u can set it to around 1G to not interfere with GSM phones
but u will have to learn to make those DIY good antennas and patch properly
i am now installing the pan and tilt into plane ... hopefully next couple of weeks can test test coz this weekend got new plane (another ZERO but different make) to maiden .. hehehehe
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QUOTE(daddoo @ Nov 24 2010, 09:02 PM)
No, I don't really love my heli but I just love my money ....... huahahhahahahah

the belt loose because the tail boom loosen up and slip into the tail boom block?

If that's the case there might be a super cheap solution. Some of them they will sand the boom's end to lock tight in the block but I found it not so effective and makes it more slippery. What I did last time was to put some transparent tape at the boom's end, the thickness you find out yourself but I only tape 1 piece around the tail boom.
Now I think you can lock the tail boom back to the block without the belt first. Then try to pull your tail boom out gently, if it works for you then you may put your belt back.
It is very hard to show you how I did but I think you will know once you started this mod.
*** Test properly and handle carefully so that you don't break anything ***
Hehehehe, I don't have this issue with me so probably I think it is not the heli's problem ..... maybe you should try to ask the previous owner if he knows anything about this tongue.gif
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daddoo do you have to change your gear frequently?

haha, i just found the tail boom not slip into
but my tail too loose^^
the worker at the shop didnt tight it properly, and i too believe on them...... which is not so good lah
not heli problem really




im fine with that la, im lucky that i bought belt cp v2 la, learned so many stuff
if i bought trex, may be no chances for me to learn all this la

plus+ + +
belt cp v2 is very hard to control compared to trex la, i can play belt cpv2, means i confirm can play trex la
hahaha
i mean hovering lah k.......hahaha



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post Nov 25 2010, 09:57 AM

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to each their own laaa .. BCP or TREX or BEAM or TITAN
as long as u learn something ..
i tot u are doing your own repairing ?? u send to shop to repair ??
very hard to learn the technical aspects if u always send to shop to learn .. and u will have trouble tuning your heli coz u dunno what the shop ppl do to your heli
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Main gear? No .... unless I crashed and stripped it ........
You should learn to repair on your own now ... it's cheaper and more effective way to go.

Just stay at the spot where you feel comfortable that I would say. Perodua kancil is economical so you can't ask too much from it. Everyone also know that BMW's car is more comfortable but different people has different need.
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by repairing on your own ..
u learn how to set up your heli properly and to your preference
and oso how to diagnose and troubleshoot problems ..
and u can save on part when u learn how to modify or use compatible or better quality part ...
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Yeap and I usually order parts from Hong Kong, some of them is more cheaper even though you include the postage. Better service still ........
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post Nov 25 2010, 03:09 PM

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hahaha. ya lor nvm la your money.

anyway, damn man the guys is rcgroup ask me to dump my 2.4ghz.

wait, some people said i can go with 1.3ghz 800mw with my 2.4ghz?

which one would u reccomend, anyway i found this:

http://www.bevrc.com/bev-58g-200mw-pulg-an...r-fpv-p-18.html

what do you think????

or shd i get this:




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i can only see the BEVRC link ... is there another link that u supposedly put ah ??
the BEVRC setup looks good .. abit pricey but still good and lots of good comments

ok ... here is the quick shortcut to FPV and frequencies PROs and CONs
i have done alot of reading the pass 2 months on FPV and radios and antennas etc etc

assuming u are keeping your JR with dsmJ
-higher frequencies can be easily blocked by obstacles like trees etc
imagine u are at a CLUB .. u dont hear the high frequencies coming out ... u just hear the low frequencies (BASS) mostly ... u get the rough idea laa
that is why the RCG fellas all telling u to throw away your 2.4 if u wanna FPV
-there is this thing call harmonics (like guitar chords) ... the frequencies tend to have this 1/2 wave and quarter wave thing which is quite pronounced ... enuff to kacau your other frequencies
so imagine 2.4ghz .. half wave is around 1.2ghz .. dont use 1.2ghz lorr .. 1.3ghz should be ok no probs
-if range is a problem then 1st consider modifying/upgrading your receiver antenna b4 increasing your transmitting power
there are quite a few threads by IBCRAZY in RCG on how to DIY your own antennas ... try with those stock whip ones 1st ... is not satisfied then can experiment
-antennas are directional ... the higher the dB the more directional it becomes (unless u just UP the POWER without changing any antennas la)
the OMNI (the whip antennas) have the best all round wave propagation but lacks the range unless u UP the POWER ... so alot of ppl tend to mod to the inverted V and/or upgrade receiver side to patch or other antennas

what i would advise u to do is ... get the BEVRC set
but go with 1.3 instead of 5.8 laa ... eventually u will wanna zoom down and do low passes and maybe cut thru trees etc etc (i know your taste la)
so a 1.3 setup will be more suitable for u ... hahahaha
on the viewing side ... get some cheap goggles 1st (i am doing this) for around usd150 delivered
or u can use any monitor with composite/RCA input
i noticed the BEVC set does not come with camera ... u will need one too
try to get wide angle lenses cams

if u have managed to read this far and understand what i am talking about ... then u are ready to commit ... hehehehe

the kwai lohs in RCG abit RICH in their talks coz USD is ez for them ... we have to pay 3 times more than what they pay ... so theings are not expensive for them


Added on November 25, 2010, 4:12 pmgood reading for basic FPV knowledge
http://www.rcexplorer.se/page14/FPV/FPV.html

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Not really understand the terms, but i get the idea.

But wait, i cant only cant cut through places with many buildings and obstacle right with 5.8Ghz?

What if its in a big field? 5.8Ghz suitable?


Added on November 25, 2010, 5:58 pmWhich camera do you think give a good picture, but not gopro lah, frekaing ex.

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post Nov 25 2010, 07:57 PM

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The distance of wave propogation is not only decide by frequency, it will be decide by its amplitude as well, for example if the volume is loud enough you can hear both high and low frequencies but of course this time the low one will be stronger.
So the conclusion is if your 5.8GHz system is very high power (which consume more energy, more battery), it will do the job as well.

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i see. anyway here is the full review of this, maybe QiW or yourself can advise me according to the review given.

should i get it?

http://fpv-community.com/testblog/2010/bevrc-5g8-200mw-fpv/
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ok ... 1st of all
this one IMHO only laaaaa
get something CHEAP .. that BEVRC oso not bad .. not too expensive
then u will need a monitor or goggles ... this one u will have to decide your budget .. i am using CHEAP GOGGLES .. less than USD150 delivered to my doorstep
my system is the HK 200mW 900mhz .. it comes with camera as well so i just make do with this ..
basically i have everything i need for BASIC FPV

total cost .. USD200 only
this one is to see whether i will like or go any further into FPV

the amplitude/power of the Vtx is a factor for range .. but the heat and size of the higher power Vtx have to be considered
i have read in RCG the heat of high powered Vtx alone killed the Vtx

my plan is to mount the full system onto my CLOUDSFLY ... then somebody else will be viewing the goggles while i fly the plane normally
i will check with him how good the reception range etc
then i know how far i can go and whether or not to do some DIY upgrades

apparently with proper setup .. a 900mhz 200mW system can go 1-2km easily ... this is what i read at RCG laaa ... but thats with patch antennas etc etc
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where did you get your camera, reccomend me good one.

i also dont want to invest so much.
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this guy is using the HK FPV set ... it includes camera .. see the quality for yourself http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread....=1292740&page=9
but his is a much higher powered one la .. 800mW ... mine is 200mW
picture quality look good .. mine oso looks quite good in my cheap goggles .. hahahaha
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I see. Guess im just settle with bevrc plug and play, which camera shd i get frm the web?
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camera i dunno la .. that one i did not do much reading but most say those security CCTV ones very good
what will u be using to view ?? goggles or big screen ??
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QUOTE(sLapshock @ Nov 25 2010, 03:09 PM)
hahaha. ya lor nvm la your money.

anyway, damn man the guys is rcgroup ask me to dump my 2.4ghz.

wait, some people said i can go with 1.3ghz 800mw with my 2.4ghz?

which one would u reccomend, anyway i found this:

http://www.bevrc.com/bev-58g-200mw-pulg-an...r-fpv-p-18.html

what do you think????

or shd i get this:
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hahaha, this is what i want to tell u la, my money what, u dont have to sakit hati always ask me throw away my heli lah or change new one lah, not the heli mistake pun... its always technical problem

i should have join other forum and tell eveyone this lah

damn man, the guy in lyn forum ask me to dump my belt cp v2



Added on November 26, 2010, 1:41 pm
QUOTE(QiW @ Nov 25 2010, 12:23 PM)
by repairing on your own ..
u learn how to set up your heli properly and to your preference
and oso how to diagnose and troubleshoot problems ..
and u can save on part when u learn how to modify or use compatible or better quality part ...
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hi, i totally agreed with u
especially the troubleshooting part

i want to repair them by my own, but the tools really expensive, so i rather send it to repair if too many parts broken
i dont mind buying the tools 1 by 1 if i not broken too many parts at once, as the tools can be too expensive if buying all together


i send it to assistant if too many parts broken, i only repair myself if i have the tools, the service charge and setting is rm15 here, i think its reasonable if i change a few parts at a time

also i will not 3D with this heli, maximum also sport flight with idle up mode, so i think should be less crash la........

i repaired 3 times after 2 months of playing?
not really a lot i think since i just jump from 4 channel with no simulator and belt cp is quite hard to control compared to other heli

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Actually you don't need a lot of tools to dismantle the parts of BCP.
I use only 2 allen key sizes, 1 hex socket screw driver (to take out feathering shaft nuts), 1 cross head screw driver, plier and ball link plier. With this I can separate all the parts into single pieces.
Except the ball link plier is slightly expensive, the rest are very cheap to look for from hardware shop. If I remember correctly, these tools cost me less than a hundred.

Hehehehehe, I know you will not throw away your bcp and so do I. But if you really want to do so, let me know. Don't throw away, I am more than willing to pay for the postage and ship your rubbish to me tongue.gif

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mostly the tools u will need is the 1.5mm hex/allen key
pliers oso i hardly use ... and maybe 2mm hex key
ball links u will need coz 450 size ball links are very very tight and improper tool to remove them may damage those ball link

this is all in reference to my TREX laa ... dunno about BCP but i think most of the tools needed to work is about the same
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also need pitch gauge

haha, will buy those tools when i got extra pocket money

now just play 4 channels first

bought 2 new batteries, now charging lol


Added on November 26, 2010, 4:38 pmwoot, just right after i posted this, both the batteries fully charged

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try to look for this from hobby king, you will save $$$$
the only drawback is shipping time ....
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how do i pay to them?

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you can make payment through paypal which is I am using now.

to apply a paypal account for online purchase it is FOC but you need to have a credit card or debit card.
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Good luck man, cant wait to see your video maneovering the belt cp, actually you only need to prove me wrong, then i will malu tongue.gif

But dont know if you able to achieve that level or not while im still alive, coz i always fight fire, very risky..hehehehehe

Ccfook dont be offended la smile.gif


Added on November 27, 2010, 12:09 amIm using direct debit card from hobbyking, it took 3 days to arrive to spore. Anw...if i were u i will look under hk helicopters, and the cheap spareparts.

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QUOTE(sLapshock @ Nov 27 2010, 12:08 AM)
Good luck man, cant wait to see your video maneovering the belt cp, actually you only need to prove me wrong, then i will malu tongue.gif

But dont know if you able to achieve that level or not while im still alive, coz i always fight fire, very risky..hehehehehe

Ccfook dont be offended la smile.gif


Added on November 27, 2010, 12:09 amIm using direct debit card from hobbyking, it took 3 days to arrive to spore. Anw...if i were u i will look under hk helicopters, and the cheap spareparts.
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3D with my lama v3?

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Be yourself ....... you are not living because of others.
I am sure you know that kancil cannot compare to BMW ..... so don't bother lah ...... different taste!!


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Good luck man, cant wait to see your video maneovering the belt cp, actually you only need to prove me wrong, then i will malu tongue.gif

But dont know if you able to achieve that level or not while im still alive, coz i always fight fire, very risky..hehehehehe

Ccfook dont be offended la smile.gif


Added on November 27, 2010, 12:09 amIm using direct debit card from hobbyking, it took 3 days to arrive to spore. Anw...if i were u i will look under hk helicopters, and the cheap spareparts.
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Yalor, I feel so pity with you ... sigh ...

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QUOTE(daddoo @ Nov 27 2010, 10:10 AM)
Be yourself ....... you are not living because of others.
I am sure you know that kancil cannot compare to BMW ..... so don't bother lah ...... different taste!!


Added on November 27, 2010, 10:56 am

Yalor, I feel so pity with you ... sigh ...
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im telling him this lol
thats why i said is him want to see my lama v3 to do 3D?
lolz
its like his controller, not the best, but dont have to throw away, still can use, no?


hehe, i first time booking from from mymegastation, very fast response by SMS, and very fast packing my items, but their spare parts is very less compared to other lol
hehe, dont mind la, as long as i get cheap spareparts

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I dont want to see ur lama v3 3d. I want to see yourself invert!! Hahah.

My 2.4 is out of the context liao, my controller still able to do a good job. Those ppl asked me to dump my 2.4ghz bcoz they are talking about...going MILES with FPV. Which i dont need that. Also everyone knows 2.4 radio are way better than Mhz which what they are using, they are jealous with that fact an the only way to diss 2.4 is applying it in fpv context, coz thats the only thing 2.4 radio


Added on November 27, 2010, 4:53 pm2.4ghz have a lot of use, im playing my gliders, my hk450 and trex250 with it. It has a lot of featurea, and the dsmj range is very good.

If i apply this as why u shd throw ur belt cp is bcoz, belt cp still can use, but only for hovering and CRASHING. ha ha ha!

At least kancil sparepart cheaper, beltcp is like kancil with bmw spareparts. Bad combi.

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Yeap, a lot of mega's price are consider lower than other LHS ..... so if I want it fast usually I will order from them also .....

But you should CONSIDER to take a look at hobby king first ...... Don't worry, hehehehhe I won't force you that you must order from there, you have your reason and freedom. Because some of the products from there also not really good one ..... I've heard foreigner complains about the heli ...... biggrin.gif


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dont force2, later he angry. worst offended. tongue.gif

anyway, foreigner are like singaporean also, EVERYTHING also wanna complaint, and some malaysian, buy cheap PROTON but expect BMW quality, tsk tsk tsk.

anyway, hobbying parts i think quite good, i always ordered from them.


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"Different taste" as I said ....... hehehehehhehe you can complain and so do others mah tongue.gif
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If you complaint that ambulance should not use its siren during emergency, is that different taste?
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Wow, the gyro cannot kacau too much ..... I put in a piece of small sponge only, just now the tail will move by the gyro itself ..... hehehheheh fortunately my orientation improved a lot .... else kena crash again .....


Added on November 28, 2010, 11:48 amAiyo, removed the sponge but still the same .... what did I do???

The tail will lost authority when I am doing a slow turn to nose left, usually I will lower the throttle stick a bit in order not to let the heli goes higher. Suspecting the tail pitch not enough because I changed it the other day, or else I think my turnigy DS480 koyak already.

Also, when I am hovering tail in then if I whack the throttle suddenly my tail also lost and nose left automatically again, this time it will move about 90 degree and goes to side in hovering .... wahahhahahahah



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increase your headspeed sommo 1st laaa using the radio ..
dont use sponge ... always use good quality double sided tape ... futaba and align got sell ... 3M oso very good
that nose left when u pump = pitch or speed not enuff or both
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I did reduce the throttle curve previously a bit loh, hence reduced the headspeed also ....
hehehehe, I have that align gyro mount with a metal plate and 2 double sided tape with my BCP now.

The sponge I put it inside the gyro and I think that might help to reduce vibration of the PCB.

I think your suggestion is aligned to my findings because for normal hovering there is no authority lost, it only happens when I am flying and turning. OKOK, thanks for the input ........

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normal flying and turning does not change headspeed much unless u FF at very fast speeds laaa
maybe your gyro gain too low ...
if increasing your gain causes wag ... vibs then have to check for vibs
the higher your headspeed the more prone to vibs it becomes and your gyro becomes a factor


Added on November 29, 2010, 8:28 amwhose dsx7 is this ??
http://malaysia-rc.com/index.php?topic=17655.0
selling yours or frens one mr shock ??
changing to FM as suggested by RCG guys for FPV ah ?? hahahahaa


Added on November 29, 2010, 8:29 amps ... dont put TOLONG KAWAN JUAL as reason coz it will get deleted
just say need $$$ or something

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I thought FM is prone to interference?

Hehehehe, don't take too much cintan mee oh .........


Added on November 29, 2010, 9:31 amI remember that day when I tried to center the tail blade's pitch I have reduced the pitch that will counter the main blade's torque, maybe that's the reason now my heli have lesser pitch when doing turn and not enough power to nose right .... will check again .....

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my lama is still flying, but then the flying time is now shorter because the motors heat up very fast
i got roughly 4-5 minutes of flying time only, after that it just flying very low

since many of you will have experience with this heli

so i want to ask, the engine got A and B? or a and b are the same, u just need swap something when install to make it spin the other side?
i havent buy the motor, so i want to ask how to install it?
is it plug and play? and easy to install or not? and how to take out the engine

hehehe, thanks thanks thanks for help


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is that a brushed motor?
Sometimes it could be your aging battery or other electronics .....
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yea, ori brushed motor

yea could be 4 in 1 but not battery

but i think motor is cheaper to tried it out compared to 4 in 1 lol
lolz


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to change direction of brushed motor just reverse the polarity ... + to - and - to + ... thats all
most of the time when facing not enuff power issue its the batt or the motor ..
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Yeap, just another question to ask you. You said your motor is hot then what about your battery after flight? Hotter than usual as well?
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very hard to gauge HOT
fireman have different threshold of HOT .. my threshold oso prolly different from yours ... hehehehe
but if HOT enuff that u cannot put your finger on it for more than 2 secs than its too how already laa
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for the + and -, is it plug and play or i need some tools?

i got not only 1 battery to tried out, so, i can confirm it is not the battery issue

battery? just slight warm after flight
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no need to tools to change polarity ... just reverse the connection of the 2 wires going from ESC/4n1 to the motor
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oic, thank you very much

and, how to take out the original motors that stick on that frame?
just pull it out?
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normally motor have SCREWS that fasten them onto the FRAME
remove those screws and your motor should come off easily
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To share :
Trex Pro 450 doing auto.


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QUOTE(zhnme523 @ Nov 30 2010, 04:10 PM)
To share :
Trex Pro 450 doing auto.

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macam kenal pilot ni .... hahahahahaaa
good auto ... i no balls to try laaa tongue.gif
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boss, how to take out 1 way bearing from the gear?><
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boss, how to take out 1 way bearing from the gear?><
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Aiyo why my epoxy so slow to harden one ....
Just mixed my A/B evenly and now waited an hour already, still look like a bit watery ..... is that because I put too thick on the plastic?

I am using this and anyone?
http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/u...idProduct=12584
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my FPV stuff already installed onto plane
will test as soon as my schedule allows
1080mhz (1.08Ghz) video with 2.4ghz futaba fasst .. hahahahahaaa
its only 200mW stock standard .. so range and quality will be quite limited without additional mods

that epoxy looks good .. normally it sets within the specified time but not fully laa .. i just leave my 15mins epoxy alone for 2-3 hours ... 20mins i leave overnite

i dont have BCP ... but i heard quite hard to take out
the TREX one oso i have never changed but got accidentally take out when changing main gear .. very tight but can be pushed out using screwdriver gently
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if fully set would it able to hold strongly ar?
brittle or not one?
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it is more than strong enuff for your plane laaa
brittleness will depends on how proportionate u mix it
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I was not used that to fix my plane yet.
I am attempting to fix the plastic part of my 4G6.
One of the bevel gear has a crack in the hole so I am using epoxy to bond the crack, doable ar?
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err ... i have never tried glue-ing plastics
i think the bevel gear is made from acetal ... this type of plastic do not stick well with anything
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Hmmmm, still failed to bind it very well. Gave up to use epoxy, go back to the old method by using super glue, more efficient and stronger biggrin.gif
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Where do you get your fpv stuff?
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got all my FPV stuff from OHS ... my tx and rx and cam is the HK 200mW 900mhz set .. CHEAP
goggles from other websites ...
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Finally Walkera updated their information about their 500 size heli.
It will be fitted with 450mm blade and 6S 3000maH battery.

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900 mhz legL in msia?? Yeahhh thinking of getting the same set too
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it is actually not legal coz clashes with GSM signals
but there are 4/5 frequencies that u can select ... i set mine to 1080ghz
placed it beside my phone and made calls etc .. no interference at all
so i am ok
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Oh yeah? So its able to set to diff freq? U bought it from hobbyking right? Anw what is ur reason for choosing the 900mhz other than 5.8ghz setup?
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obviously u never read my earlier post or other RCG reasons
the lower the frequency the better the wave ability to pass thru or bend around object and therefore longer range
higher frequencies gets blocked much more easily ... but 5.8 has very little traffic so signal is cleaner/clearer
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Hmmmmmm, I think maybe he can't absorb much because those things that you have explained not so easy to digest tongue.gif


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well, you explained 1.3ghz compared to 5.8ghz, not 900mhz.

taking your point that lower freq have better wave quality, then why the heck people getting 1.3ghz then if 900mhz is better?

whatever it is, hows the result?
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OK, 900MHz is equal to 0.9GHz .... so you do your maths here
0.9GHz --> 1.3GHz --> 5.8GHz, got it?

Aiyo, 900MHz (or 0.9GHz) is actually the frequency we are using for our handphone transmission so people is trying to find a free slot for their FPV system, understand ar?



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yaa ... the lower the frequency the better the ability to transverse across and around things
the CON is that to generate the same of "power" as higher frequencies .. sort of like range .. u will need higher power for lower frequencies
@ your subwoofer (low frequencies) sucks much more power than your tweeters

the difference btwn 900 and 1.3 is not much .. so ppl will choose according to the legality of use in their country .. but this is BOLEHLAND .. all oso BOLEH !! hahahahaahahahaaa

u will see that those selling aftermarket modules for FPV RC radio are at 433mhz .. very low ... it is actually UHF range already ... but very very good range (well over 10km easily depending on setup)
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where did u get the main gear with 1 way bearing for bcpv2 from?
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WWW.RC711.COM


Added on December 5, 2010, 10:58 pmCheckit out my aerial video smile.gif



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WaL9xhekuB4

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QUOTE(ccfook2123 @ Dec 5 2010, 03:09 AM)
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where did u get the main gear with 1 way bearing for bcpv2 from?
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I got it from LHS but I think they don't sell ESky parts anymore. Anyhow better don't buy from them because I have bad experience with them in the past and now I have black listed this shop.
Try to find from HK/China OHS like rc711, hobby-wing. No problem to deal with them for me lah, cheaper somemore, just that you need to wait for around 2 weeks to deliver.
You may also try to find a compatible main gear since the stock one is quite weak in a crash.
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rc711 has one of the cheapest beltcp parts.
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How would you know? I thought you hate belt cp a lot but how come you still spending time to compare the price for belt cp? tongue.gif

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How would you know? I thought you hate belt cp a lot but how come you still spending time to compare the price for belt cp? tongue.gif
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Cant wait to know the result.

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WWW.RC711.COM


Added on December 5, 2010, 10:58 pmCheckit out my aerial video smile.gif



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WaL9xhekuB4
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waaa .. NICE NEW ACCORD with SG plates
and got chicks to accompany u fly ... damm NICE maaaannnn ... hahahahahahaaaaa
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Tht chick in black is this mr fireman wife. Haha

Anw thnks man tht was my first try


Added on December 9, 2010, 11:48 amuploading "desa tebrau flying field feat. the biggest jusco in asia & hospital sultan ismail aerial view" soon.

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installing a cam into plane and fly all out is no prob
FPV is a totally different story ... alot of things to consider
i will try and take a pic of my CLOUDSFLY with all the FPV stuff attached b4 i do my FPV maiden ... hahahahaaa

what is a MALAYSIAN doing with a SG registered vehicle ??
or the chick in black is SG chick and the car is hers ?? hehehehe
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QUOTE(QiW @ Dec 9 2010, 04:00 PM)
installing a cam into plane and fly all out is no prob
FPV is a totally different story ... alot of things to consider
i will try and take a pic of my CLOUDSFLY with all the FPV stuff attached b4 i do my FPV maiden ... hahahahaaa

what is a MALAYSIAN doing with a SG registered vehicle ??
or the chick in black is SG chick and the car is hers ?? hehehehe
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haha, that terengganu chick is my fiancee hor. that car is, whoever la, not important...but that plane is definately mine! hahaha!

anyway... this is my latest video smile.gif


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Guys, i want to ask some questions. I planned to get a RC heli - Lama V4.

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This is the first time i get myself a RC Heli. So i am totally new in this.

I want to buy the extra blades and batteries online and the questions are

Is this batteries and the blades are compatible to Lama v4 :

Batteries

For the blades :

Blades

The shop that sells the heli told me to upgrade the extension - i dont know what it is called. The extension will prevent the Heli top blades and bottom blades from hitting each other. So what is the extension name called?
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Not too sure also but I guess maybe "extended main shaft"?


Added on December 10, 2010, 11:11 am
OK, here's one for your reference
http://www.thinkrc.com/xtreme-ebl001-exten...lama-p-642.html

But it is for Big Lama ....

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QUOTE(genjo @ Dec 10 2010, 10:55 AM)
Guys, i want to ask some questions. I planned to get a RC heli - Lama V4.

user posted image

This is the first time i get myself a RC Heli. So i am totally new in this.

I want to buy the extra blades and batteries online and the questions are

Is this batteries and the blades are compatible to Lama v4 :

Batteries

For the blades :

Blades

The shop that sells the heli told me to upgrade the extension - i dont know what it is called. The extension will prevent the Heli top blades and bottom blades from hitting each other. So what is the extension name called?
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those batts and blades looks like they will fit your LAMA
but seriously .. 60 sets of blades ??? i dont think u will need that much laa .. hahahahaha
extended main shaft helps in preventing blade strikes ... but not 100% thing la of coz

the LAMA is a good introduction to rc heli ...
u will have hours and hours of good fun ... it is NOT an OUTDOOR HELI (very prone to wind)


Added on December 10, 2010, 11:58 amhere is a pic of my prolly FPV maiden today or tomoro CLOUDSFLY .. heheheheh
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The shop wants to charge me RM 40 for a main shaft.

I want to know if it is hard if i try to DIY? I don't have experience in fixing this.

By the way, i notice some battery got different C. What is the different between 15C and 20C

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get the most C one is price difference is not much
it indicates the current output of the battery ..
the higher the C the easier it is for the batt to provide power in laymans term

the shaft u cannot DIY unless u have a machine shop .. it is around rm30+ i think ...
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ok, my meaning is not diy the shaft. I buy the shaft and install it myself. Is it hard?


Added on December 10, 2010, 3:01 pmOh ya, i have just bought this batteries. Is it compatible?

battery i bought

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if u know what u are doing then it is not hard

if the size of the batteries fit then those are good batts for your LAMA
according to the link u put ... it fits
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I think let me explain how the C works.

If your battery is 100maH with 20C then it is capable of delivering 20A of current. C is more like a constant multiplier of your rated capacity to tell you how much current a battery can provide.
So if you don't need so much of current draw, you may reduce the C to 15, then it will give you 15A. Lower C battery tends to cheaper usually.
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wah power sia, daddoo very knowledgeable already.
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Hehehehehhe, I know about this only. Basic stuff tongue.gif
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100mah with 20C can deliver 2A constant ... not 20A tongue.gif
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Opsssss, my mistake ... should be 1000maH
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alamak, means im worst cant even spot that.
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aiyer ......... the canopy for copterX so ugly one ......
Just bought one for my bcp thought that white color is more easy to spot in the air, but the quality is not really good. Hopefully it works as expected because the stock canopy disoriented me sometimes.
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just spray it BRIGHT ORANGE like mine .. no problems spotting it in the air

maidened the FPV plane this morning .... flew it further than my normal flight path (around 200m+)
no problems with video transmit and receive range using stock setup
only prob is ESC RF noise .. the video goes fuzzy cannot see when i hit throttle .. off throttle and glide very clear
plane feels alot heavier and drops faster when gliding
will now attempt to tackle the fuzzy noise issue ...

ps .. someone else was wearing the goggles ... not me .. i am flying normally and getting feedback on video reception from the goggles wearer
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Hehehehehhe, my BCP with new bra ...... nice ar?
I will paint the white canopy a bit because the white is too much and looks very plain. Maybe try to put some sticker to decorate the bra ... huahahhahahahha


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Just changed my ESC to 30A version too ..... not fully tested yet but works better than the stock one ....


Added on December 11, 2010, 8:19 pm

Qiw, I am just speculating only.
The noise in your video might be coming from the motor. From your photo I have seen that the video signal will pass through the motor then only route to the VTx. So if I am right that might the source of bad video.



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no motor i think .. more likely ESC coz motor resonance not high enuff to disturb the signal
on the other hand ... ESC produces much higher frequencies coz it need to sync 3 phases
i will try and isolate the ESC and cam power supply and see ....
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Using another BEC?
Do let me know what's ur finding later on ....


Added on December 11, 2010, 10:16 pm
But I think if it is the motor it is very easy to isolate the problem. Just remove those 3 wires and throttle up. If the video still bad, then definitely not the motor ......



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to check ESC oso ez ... just provide separate power source
i already have a plug that can take another small batt away from the moan batt for video ... but i hope not to use coz it will add weight to the whole plane
it is already damm heavy as it is now
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Errrrr, any possible factor that contribute to the running hot ESC ar?
The new 30A ESC has about the same temperature after 6 minutes flight. Gear mesh is not tight as I have adjusted yesterday, what else?
Should not be the 325mm wood blade, right?
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yak or katana or addiction x?
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1. get more airflow to ESC (hovering tends to heat up ESC more than FF)
2. 30A for a 450 size heli is underrated .. i running stock align 35A oso HOT (want to change but i love the align soft start too much)

whichever plane u get is up to u ... those are all 3D planes which i have no experience with (not interested in plane 3D)
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Hmmm, then I think I have made a wrong decision. Previously was struggling between 40a and 30a.

A guai low in helifreak told me it is the 2A/5V BEC heating a lot so now I have stick a heat sink on the ESC surface. Tested on the ground and I can feel the heat transfer, hopefully it helps to reduce the temperature later on.

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u will still need to provide airflow otherwise the heatsink will not function efficiently
BECs oso causes heat if under load .. i am using external BEC for my PRO .. 35A ESC still hot .. hahahaha
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Guys, after a further research i found xtreme blade for my "coming soon" lama v4.

I want to ask if this will fit my lama v4?

And in this package, is it they sell 2 upper blades and 2 lower blades?

XTREME Blades

I am not sure and needs confirmation from you all smile.gif

Thanks to all pro.
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according to the description ... it comes with 2 sets of both upper and lower blades
why would u wanna get extreme blades ??
they are hard heavy and causes alot of damage if u hit something with those blades spinning ... not to mention the extra stress on your motors with heavier blades
the original blades are very good .. they last quite well .. and they shatter on hard impact which in turn saves u from damaging other parts such as the shafts etc
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Thanks QiW, then i will go for the original blades. I also plan to upgrade the shaft. Which shaft should i get?
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other than the blades ... i hear EXTREME stuff are pretty good but expensive
just change to the extended shaft for the upper blades ... that will do
other than that .. i dont think u will need anything else for a beginner
if u fly often enuff .. u will outgrow the LAMA sooner than u think .. hehehehe
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hmmm... u got ur point. Thanks a lot
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i love 3d planes..... 4d even better
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huahahahaa
ADDICTION X is NOT CHEAP to crash when u learn 3D .... but of coz u have no probs with that laa tongue.gif
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haha..

kerja mau kuat sikit la...taklah, completing the augusta fuselage..
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augusta fuse ??
no more 3D stuff ah ?? or 3D with scale body ?? hehehehe
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i can do basic 3D .. i feel quite enuff for me oso
learn abit more no need to hardcore so much
but if i were to go SCALE heli .. have to be at least 500 size laaa .. small heli not nice and underpowered
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I prefer to go for scale airplane rather than scale heli. No matter how realistic it is the scale heli still looks fake because of the rotor head ..... hehhehe

But I like my Cessna a lot when I see it in the mid air, really looks like a real plane flying ...... tongue.gif
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FLYBARLESS.
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some video of u guys flying lah thanks
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sorry laa ... when i fly there is no time or ppl to take videos for me .. hahahahaa

btw ... i see u selling helis in your SIGNATURE .. opening online heli shop ah ?? hahahhaaa
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Wah, so fast sell heli already?

Noooo~~ dont sell your Belt Cp! Nooo~~~~

Errr.... shd IT get into WIKILEAKS.
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Hehehehe, ya Belt CP not for u to sell one, it's for you to throw away ....
So please throw it to me, I will pay postage and RM10 to buy you a cup of coffee.


Added on December 16, 2010, 10:29 pm
rclxms.gif got some budget for rc again , any fast funjet to recommend ar? Consider that I am quite good in controlling the plane already ....... Multiplex Funjet ok ar?

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MPX funjet is the fastest foam plane around i think
depending on your power system .. i am flying it with a 2800mah 3S
estimated speed around 170-180kmh when full throttle
with 4S it gets very fast and everything inside very hot .. hahahaha
i am using 100a ESC .. sapac MB1 motor
for u i think 80a ESC and turnigy 2836 3200kv is more than good enough considering this might only be your 2nd plane
make sure u keep an eye on it coz it will disappear very fast .. totally unlike the cessna
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haha.

im having fun with my cloudfly now, upgraded esc and 6x4prop...nice flying.

anyway, im very much itnerested into katana ..but how was it?
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QUOTE(QiW @ Dec 17 2010, 12:45 AM)
MPX funjet is the fastest foam plane around i think
depending on your power system .. i am flying it with a 2800mah 3S
estimated speed around 170-180kmh when full throttle
with 4S it gets very fast and everything inside very hot .. hahahaha
i am using 100a ESC .. sapac MB1 motor
for u i think 80a ESC and turnigy 2836 3200kv is more than good enough considering this might only be your 2nd plane
make sure u keep an eye on it coz it will disappear very fast .. totally unlike the cessna
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Too bad that the motor you mentioned is backorder now ....
How many servo needed for this funjet actually?


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dunno anything about KATANA .. but i think its not hard to fly
performing 3D is another story la of coz .. hahahahaa

funjet requires only 2 x 9g servos
that 2836 turnigy is quite good .. can go to around 150kmh no probs
the 80a plush ESC oso no stock ... or alternatively u can use a small BEC with the HK 100a ...
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I've seen some of them using the 60a turnigy plush ESC, really want to go up to 80a ar? How fast usually 3S can go?
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QUOTE(QiW @ Dec 16 2010, 04:30 PM)
sorry laa ... when i fly there is no time or ppl to take videos for me .. hahahahaa

btw ... i see u selling helis in your SIGNATURE .. opening online heli shop ah ?? hahahhaaa
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ha, try to sell lol
i bought at lower price than market
so i try to sell at market price hoping got people buy
if no people buy, then i play lol
no harm trying
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QUOTE(sLapshock @ Dec 16 2010, 06:20 PM)
Wah, so fast sell heli already?

Noooo~~ dont sell your Belt Cp! Nooo~~~~

Errr.... shd IT get into WIKILEAKS.
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i dont feel like entertain u
why u want to make people hate u?

1 of your hobby? just curious
you dont have to reply me
in chinese people say, elephant's teeth don't grow from dog's mouth
it means A filthy mouth can’t utter decent language.
i think no only me in this forum think that u are this kind of person la

we are not kid
this is forum for us to share and learn

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QUOTE(daddoo @ Dec 17 2010, 11:29 PM)
I've seen some of them using the 60a turnigy plush ESC, really want to go up to 80a ar? How fast usually 3S can go?
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depending on what prop u use ..
if u stick with 60a ... cannot exceed 5x5 prop
a 6x5 prop using the 2836 3200kv motor draws 70a+ at full throttle on my last known setup in that configuration
so 60a with a 5x5 prop will be at the limit already .. and u will have to place the ESC outside the fuselage to be safe too (for good cooling)


Added on December 18, 2010, 7:32 amwith a 3S 3836 3200kv using 5x5 .. expect around 140kmh or so laaa

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No wonder I see people use 4.75x4.75 for 60a ESC only.
Is there a huge different between 140 and 200km/h in the sense of flying this funjet ar?

The plane is around RM200 only but with the rempit-power-set we add in, the cost is more than the plane itself .... hmmmmmmm ... have to consider liao
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No wonder I see people use 4.75x4.75 for 60a ESC only.
Is there a huge different between 140 and 200km/h in the sense of flying this funjet ar?

The plane is around RM200 only but with the rempit-power-set we add in, the cost is more than the plane itself .... hmmmmmmm ... have to consider liao
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sure la a lot different
is like when u drive 40 and 100 hehe
i been thinking to buy a plane, but not now la, no money
hahaha
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a world of difference btwn 140 and 200 for sure
the cheapest price currently for funjet (not the ultra) is about rm230

electronics are not cheap ... but if u plan carefully about your current batts .. power system ... u can figure out what plane will suit whatever components u have now instead of always buying new ones
eg .. if u have mostly 2200mah 3S batts then u plan what planes are good for flying with those batts 1st ... then what other spare components u have (ESC motor etc) ... these will help u decide
if u got cash to fling around then everything no probs la of coz
almost all my planes electronics costs is more than the plane itself

my funjet costs rm230
the ESC and motor cost me rm250 ..
servos less than rm30
receiver rm250
batt less than rm80

my 25 size mustang cost me rm350
motor and ESC less than rm300
servos rm130
receiver rm250
batt rm120

my 46size spitfire cost me rm450
motor and ESC less than rm400
servos rm250
receiver rm250
batt rm240

all the above not inclusive of my time to build up the plane and setup
u calculate laa .. hehehehehe
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Alamak, wrong estimation then. The cost to build your funjet can afford a BNF V120D02 .... hehhehehehhe

Now only I know that the funjet has no rudder one, correct ar?

ccfook, what's your progress now? hehehheh can side in and nose in?
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Now everyone playing plane alrd including me!

Cant wait to fly my augusta also...ha ha.

A friend just bought addiction x which cost him rm2400...real crazy!


Added on December 18, 2010, 10:42 pmNobody interested in enticement/ efly 4 site f3p plane ar? Dadoo? Qiw?

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what is F3P i oso dunno ...

mr daddoo ...
u can go cheap on the funjet setup oso one
2836 2350kv motor .. 40a ESC .. 5x5 prop ... your 2200mah 3S batts
so new costs to u would be the funjet rm230 .. motor + ESC rm120 .. servos less than rm30 .. receiver i dunno what system u using la .. batt already have
u calculate ..
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QUOTE(daddoo @ Dec 18 2010, 09:46 PM)
Alamak, wrong estimation then. The cost to build your funjet can afford a BNF V120D02 .... hehhehehehhe

Now only I know that the funjet has no rudder one, correct ar?

ccfook, what's your progress now? hehehheh can side in and nose in?
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side in can,not very good la, i never try to learn nose in
just fly it around

belt cp main gear out of stock everywhere, didnt play it for 1month d...
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QUOTE(QiW @ Dec 19 2010, 12:31 AM)
what is F3P i oso dunno ...

mr daddoo ...
u can go cheap on the funjet setup oso one
2836 2350kv motor .. 40a ESC .. 5x5 prop ... your 2200mah 3S batts
so new costs to u would be the funjet rm230 .. motor + ESC rm120 .. servos less than rm30 .. receiver i dunno what system u using la .. batt already have
u calculate ..
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Errrr, the old version of funjet can go over 100km/h or not? I know there is a newer funjet ultra from multiplex for faster speed.

If later I want to jalan this project I think I will take the Turnigy plush 60a as it can handle 80a for 10 sec. But still need to find out all the small parts like adapter, glue and the motor mounts ...... I will be using my 2801 pro, the Rx is only RM100 approximately to ship to me.


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side in can,not very good la, i never try to learn nose in
just fly it around

belt cp main gear out of stock everywhere, didnt play it for 1month d...
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They have it but the stock status may not be the updated one, try to email them and ask. I am satisfy with their service so far with only one deal lah ....

http://www.hobby-wing.com/esky-e023-e602-spare-parts.html


This one also got but don't know much about them
http://www.nacrc.com/esky-parts-esky-beltc...page=6&sort=20a



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i am currently flying the white colour funjet ... the newer version is called ULTRA
no problems at all with the "old" FJ going close to 200kmh laa
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Thanks for the info. I have seen one ULTRA just now at the flying site in PG. But too bad I have no chance to see it in the air as I went back early.

Walkera is so aggressive to capture the market I think, they have released a "Belt driven 4G6" ..... but with more power since it is using 20A esc, bigger motor and battery ......

Personally I feel like the old torque tube with a square tail boom is easier to survive and now the round hollow tube is prone to damage easily in a crash ....
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such a small thing put belit drive ... the belt sure kow kow maintenance one
it will be like a little rubber band .. imagine how easily those snap
i am happy with my STOCK 4G6S liauuu ... can do whatever i want to do already .. hehehehe
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I am quite happy with my 4G6 too, it is very fun to fly but of course I think the hardcore 3D flying is very hard to do with the everything stock. The only annoying thing with the torque tube version is the weak bevel gear inside as it is strip easily in a crash. Waiting for V120D02 to drop in price then later on I can fly a small FBL ....

The newest belt driven V120 is very expensive now .... about USD350 for RTF with 2801 Pro Tx ......

Hehehehehe, now I can fly in all direction with my 4G6 but not reverse flying yet. Have you start to invert ar?




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i dont fly my heli very much ... mostly fly planes
but i will try to invert ASAP laa ... just out of curiousity
but prefer not to do it over concrete or cement ground ... just in case .. hahahahahaaaa
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plane very relaxing.
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My 4G6 I think is quite hard to invert now even though if I am capable.
Motor is easy to bog and I think I need to replace ........ more than 200 flights till now since February this year.
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possibly too much pitch .. BCP or 4G6 +10/-10 enuff already

plane is very relaxing if u fly the glider ... can even put the radio down on the ground .. hahahahaha
try flying warbirds like mustang spitfire etc ... it will start to become a challenge
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I have increased the head speed (throttle curve) as much as possible and now my pitch is about +/- 8 for 4G6.

Battery also plays an important role here i think, because for the first minute it won't bog too much ...... so if I want to do invert that will be my best time ... hehehehe
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warbirds need not be NITRO or GASSER ... it can be electric
all my planes are electric .. bought 1 GP unit to convert to EP too
conversion will be done myself of coz

batts are very important .. if not power then just leisure flying no hardcore stuff
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What thread lock you guys use? im thinking to upgrade the lama v4 myself but after further research, i found that i need a thread lock.

So where can i get it? If cant found on shop i'll get it online.

Come share which brand is good smile.gif
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u can get threadlock at local hardware store or hobby shop
i am using this one ... http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/u...idProduct=10959
just nice ... not too tight to take out but strong enuff to hold my screws
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With that TL you don't need special handling to unscrew?
Hehehe, nv used TL before .........
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Building my augusta a109.

Cloudfly is fun to fly invert
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If i dont use Thread Lock, anything will happen?
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if no threadlock then it will not lock only laaa .. thats all
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So if we did not lock the thread/nut in those 3D performance heli, what will happen? tongue.gif

=======> a crash?
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vibrations from motor/engine etc will cause nuts/bolts to loosen
so just imagine if your nut/bolt loosen or comes off during flight what happens laa ... thats all

if u locktite it then almost no chance for them to loose ..

maybe try to invert the 4G6S today .. took it to work with me
may attempt indoors (inside company store) .. hehehehe
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Glad to hear that, remember to share your story later on ... interested to listen before I invert mine tongue.gif

Any hobby shop like rcsmart, ntc hobby, boon chung open on saturday ar? heheheh, going to kl this saturday so may consider to go and have a look ... all the while I was just order online only ....

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the shops u listed are open on saturdays ..

just went fly in the store ... hehehe
1st batt .. F8 and FF around .. good
2nd batt .. hover pitch pump ... reset gyro gain
then FF going into invert ... FF too fast ... heli went too far .. flew it back towards me inverted ... then dunno why got this pillar beside me go crash into the heli ... hahahahahahaaa
3rd batt ... keep back in car .. huahahaha

conclusion ... my dual rates / EXTENT for cyclic is too high and travel for tail servo not enuff .. and oso fly too far and fast for a small little heli
damage .. ROTOR HEAD bent + blades gone + feathering shaft + possible minor main gear damage
main shaft hard to tell whether damaged or not coz rotor head is slightly wobble already but it looks quite good/not bent (i already previously replaced the 4g6 shaft with 4g3 ones coz i heard it was harder and stronger but about 1mm+ short)
the bevel gears oso looks and feels ok ... i turn and held the tail in hand .. does not feel like any of the shaft gears stripped

so this will be my 1st heli crash since a long long time .. hahahaha
dunno if i have spare rotor head at home .. the rest of the stuff i have laa
will prolly change to plastic rotor head
have to cut down my EXT/dual rates coz heli too damm fast when inverted


Added on December 22, 2010, 2:53 pmps ... it will be hard to do setting changes with the WK 2602 radio i am using now .. trial and error case for next flight
have to do some ordering of parts from chinesejade ... after i go back and give the heli a thorough check of whats damaged

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Oppsss, sorry to hear that. heheheh, have to crash ur heli to share with me ur story ......

it looks like this little heli is not easy to invert ......
anyway I have a lot of repairing experience to share with u ... for example if after repair you found your tail wagging then may be the bevel gear needs to replace ..... main shaft usually I will just straighten ...... rotor head also can bent back if not seriously twisted ....


Added on December 22, 2010, 2:58 pmYou may try to get the parts from myrcmart in HK too, cheaper most of the time excluding shipping lah .....

I found oomodel also quite reasonable but so far I have not bought anything from them yet .....

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i think it my settings more than anything laa
itchy hand went turn up the dual rates / EXT too much
will turn it back down once heli is repaired .. then try to invert again
this time will be over grass ... just in case .. hahahahaaa
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I keep changing my heli blades due to my poor handling technique... i think got 20 blades become my victim d, now the landing gear is broken.. im gonna glue it back....

i bought 60x blades... i think will be running out of blades soon...
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get the EXTENDED SHAFT for your LAMA ... this will help lessen your blade strikes A LOT !!!
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the blades normally snap into two is because i crashed into wall and many things...
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Try not to crash too much loh .....
What you can see now is breaking the blade only, but in actual you might ruin some other things also .....


Added on December 23, 2010, 12:23 am
Qiw, your 4G6S from OHS right? Did not block by custom with Tx in the parcel?

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my 4G6S bought from east malaysia
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QUOTE(genjo @ Dec 22 2010, 09:21 PM)
I keep changing my heli blades due to my poor handling technique... i think got 20 blades become my victim d, now the landing gear is broken.. im gonna glue it back....

i bought 60x blades... i think will be running out of blades soon...
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try to play in 1 x 1 meter, try to hover it(1 x 1 meter is quite a big space already for lama v3)
first tail in, then side in

around 3 feet will do

after this try to make circle and then figure 8,

lastly try nose in hover in the 1 x 1 meter box

and then you are ready to fly whatever you like


took 1 week la for lamav3 if u hardworking enough to play


trust me lol, you will learn faster this way even you may feel its bored

you woulnt believe when you see the result yourself, because i had tried this^^

before i did hovering, i only crash my heli, but after i learn hover in tail and side in, i can control my lama go zooming in my tiny apartment d

yea, the extended shaft is good to prevent blades strike, but you lose the stability, which is not so good for beginner
to learn this hobby, first you need to learn TINY input, with tiny input, you normally dont have blade strike, i didnt know this before, but i have tried 3 lamav3 with tiny input outdoor with little wind, no blade strike happen

but my friend who never learn hover, they even have blades strike with extended shaft( we both controlling the same heli, i didnt have blades strike, but he had)

so, learn to hover, this is the basic for this hobby^^

im not a pro, just started to play 3 months ago, so we are in the same line




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yup .. do the basics 1st
then lots of things will come much easier
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anyone buying 3s 2200 mah battery from hobbyking?

haha, i want to buy but dont know how to buy
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almost all my batts are from hobbyking .. hehehehe
u will need a credit or a paypal acount ... thats all
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merry christmas to all


but i dont have paypal or credit card


Added on December 25, 2010, 11:19 pmi only have RHB atm card

can i apply paypal with that?

if yes , please teach me how

thanks!!

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i think RHB now have some PAYPAL thing laa ..
u can go to RHB website and have a look .. u open a PAYPAL account and then revert it to your RHB account or something like that
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Hi guys, good to see the Plane discussion converging to RC Helicopter as well.

Nowadays I did not fly my RC Heli, the more I fly, the more to maintain. LOL.

Funjet looks fun. What is the rate of successful landing? It doesn't really land properly doesn't it?
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FUNJET is not aimed at the beginner but it has the basics for a beginners plane
it is not a beginner's plane coz it too fast and twitchy for beginner to handle
landing is not a problem as long as u have big enuff space
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QiW, where do you fly? I would like to see your flying sessions. biggrin.gif
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i usually fly at bandar tun hussein onn ... cheras area
please come come and get poisoned .. hehehehe
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I am trying to find out what people prefers ---> EP or GP heli?
And why?



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i usually fly at bandar tun hussein onn ... cheras area
please come come and get poisoned .. hehehehe
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When are you flying? I'll come biggrin.gif

I want to take a look at your helicopter as well laugh.gif
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i dont fly my heli very much ... nowadays mostly fly planes
i fly most mondays wednesdays fridays evenings .. saturday and sunday mornings .. pending weather conditions and ppl turning up of coz

EP or GP is all preference laa .. up to u one mr daddoo
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QUOTE(QiW @ Dec 27 2010, 11:51 PM)
i dont fly my heli very much ... nowadays mostly fly planes
i fly most mondays wednesdays fridays evenings .. saturday and sunday mornings .. pending weather conditions and ppl turning up of coz

EP or GP is all preference laa .. up to u one mr daddoo
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Seems that plane got me hooked, just ordered precision aerobatics addiction from boononline.com

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u should get your package very fast since boon does a quick job of sending things out .. I THINK .. hahahahahaaa

u think u are hooked ?? wait til u try those fast planes going over 150kmh .. GERENTI HOOKED .. hahahahahaaa
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yeap, it's really a personal preference ....
because I was advised to take GP if want to go for a new heli .... but I am still prefer EP because I don't see a point to fly GP from my point of view ... hehehehhe so I want to find out the battling between GP and EP now .....

I have heard that the GP engine u need to service the parts from time to time, cost high or not?
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with GP ...
u can more consistent power thru the whole flight
possibly lower cost for nitro fuel if u dunno how to take care of your lipos
but ..
u must know how to tune your engine
be prepared to carry lots of equipment to the field (pump starter etc etc)
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yaloh, if the engine not tune properly it will mati in the mid-air .... scary
but EP has no such problem unless the ESC gone lah .......

How is ur 4G6S already? Repaired and back in action ar?
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4G6S never touch since crash ... got other stuff to complete
but it is in the queue laa .. hahahahaahaa
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ohhh, any idea how much current 3 ESky digital servo + 1 turnigy DS480 servo can pull?

Just connect the battery and leave my BCP do nothing, my ESC gets warm after 5 minutes ..... maybe this is why the ESC is hot after flight ....

ccfook, can you try yours and let me know if it is the same?

A guai low in HF told me my BEC is stressing too much since it can provide 2A current only ....

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duno how much current those servos suck laa ... but it oso depends on whether u are loading them kow kow or not
450 size i would not go for anything less than 3A to be safe
my 450PRO using external BEC .. 3A nominal 5A peak

mr slapshock ... wanna sell your scorpion oso never offer here 1st
offer me a good price with shipping i can consider .. hehehehe


Added on December 29, 2010, 2:30 pmps ... oso best price for your AUGUSTA scale kit .. hehehehe

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Ohhh, then do you use another battery to power your BEC ar?
Or just solder the wire to the dean connector and share the same battery with your ESC?
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same batt ... just another wire out of the batt connector
one for ESC and another for BEC
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QUOTE(QiW @ Dec 29 2010, 02:25 PM)
duno how much current those servos suck laa ... but it oso depends on whether u are loading them kow kow or not
450 size i would not go for anything less than 3A to be safe
my 450PRO using external BEC .. 3A nominal 5A peak

mr slapshock ... wanna sell your scorpion oso never offer here 1st
offer me a good price with shipping i can consider .. hehehehe


Added on December 29, 2010, 2:30 pmps ... oso best price for your AUGUSTA scale kit .. hehehehe
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dont use scorpion la, battery sure very fast 'kembong' one, unless you really enjoy 3d flying and need power that needed in tick tocks etc. other than that its not worth it, i bought super expensive i lost alot. haha. anyway the motor is super scary.

augusta fuselage best price already rc smart selling for 350, cant find time to fix it ar, also wanna fund my new project hehe.
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quite a number of the guys flying here uses this motor
no probs ... i think they using 12T laaa
my headspeed is higher than those using the scorpion ... thats why interested .. but since u advice dont take i dont take laa since i actually have another higher kv motor on standby already .. hehehehe
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sold off already la.

you use turnigy with higher KV also can get the same speed or better... i use 14t pinion...

what matter is how long can it last, thats all.
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What battery do you use first?
If you are using those low C rating and cheapo battery for sure this motor will kill them fast .....


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my heli batts are 35C and above one leh .. hahahaha
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nobody plays heli with 25c anymore... tongue.gif

unless you only have beltcp... that heli worth 20c and max 25c.

he he he
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Aiyoyo, don't kick the bcp in lah ......

If later one of us bought align 550e then we will tell you nobody play clone (pirated) heli one tongue.gif


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haha...

then i'll let them know why i choose my hk450 (pirated cetak rompak) over my trex 450 pro + futaba gy501 + futaba s9254 + kbdd servo mount + kbdd flybar paddle (original) tongue.gif tongue.gif

FACT is, once it flies in the air, nobody knows its a pirated or clone...if not hobbyking.com close shop liao....huhuhuh...nobody cant deny this even master QiW tongue.gif

ever wonder why HK heli's always out of stock in hobbyking? maybe somebody with 550e can answer it. hehehe

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Up to you, different taste here ........

HK is not just selling heli lah brother, they can survive not because of selling heli only. Just like fireman not only putting off fire, they go catch snake also, wuaahahhahahaahahah
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i dont have 550 so i dunno
but seriously ... if u fly everything STOCK .. no upgrades ... then hard to argue coz u will almost always get what u pay
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550 stock? Hehehehe, I heard quite comparable to 600 .... but the 550 has more power with 600 motor and lighter weight.


Added on December 30, 2010, 5:21 pm
What happened to Futaba 10CHG as so many people let go one?



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QUOTE(daddoo @ Dec 30 2010, 02:54 PM)
Up to you, different taste here ........

HK is not just selling heli lah brother, they can survive not because of selling heli only. Just like fireman not only putting off fire, they go catch snake also, wuaahahhahahaahahah
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you're wrong.. singapore fireman never catch snake... only bomba dan penyelamat catch snake..hehe... catching snake etc etc will be done by the singapore AVA depts... he he he he.....

why ea hk heli always out of stock? damnnn!!!!!


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HK cheap 450 always out of stock meh ??
most of the time its the usd9.99 one la out of stock coz ppl use that to train and crash ... the rest of the 450 series i see IN STOCK
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QUOTE(QiW @ Dec 31 2010, 04:01 PM)
HK cheap 450 always out of stock meh ??
most of the time its the usd9.99 one la out of stock coz ppl use that to train and crash ... the rest of the 450 series i see IN STOCK
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yup, always out of stock.

recently they topped all stock including the long await 600 size because of festive season.

yeah, 9.99 its better to train with cheap one that can fly rather than expensive one that cant even fly, worst sucking out more money for always out of stock parts..., hahaha....u know better.

change topic la...

do you think hovering plane or heli easier? smile.gif
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i never hover plane b4 i dunno

maybe it is not the more expensive heli that cannot fly .. maybe setup problem .. hehehehe
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Yeah..so everything also abt setup..original or clone no diff, the only diff is the setup... But cheap servo and expensive servo definitely got diff, am I right? I also newbie...


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not much diff .. specs says the same then the same laa .. hahahahaha
u almost always get what u pay ... this the the fact of life
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My New year flying video at Wetland Putrajaya.

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cantek ....
i never fly there b4 laa .. when wanna bring me go there ?? hehehe
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cantek ....
i never fly there b4 laa .. when wanna bring me go there ?? hehehe
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ok ok ... good
u guys fly there after work on weekdays oso ah ??
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ok ok ... good
u guys fly there after work on weekdays oso ah ??
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My New year flying video at Wetland Putrajaya.
Super nice flying. rclxms.gif
But once you reached that level what else to learn? rolleyes.gif
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Super nice flying.  rclxms.gif
But once you reached that level what else to learn?  rolleyes.gif
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any parrot A.R drone users here?

having one unit sitting in box here in office... boss bought back from states.. haven't even open..
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I think not much quadcopter/tricopter pilot here ...... hehehhehe


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u can try daddyhobby, a few quadcopters flyer there...


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i have never flown quads or tricopters b4 ... but they look nice and stable
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I think those are the most suitable RC for FPV ....
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my addiction arrived, but boon sent a wrong servo..lol.
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any parrot A.R drone users here?

having one unit sitting in box here in office... boss bought back from states.. haven't even open..
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Hey. Fast fast try it and update us here!
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parrot ar drone seems very interesting^^
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Crashed my cessna in a windy landing ....

Firewall broken apart so the place that hold the nose wheel axle also came out, since it is made of nylon is that possible to repair using epoxy ar?

After epoxy repair would it strong enough to hold the nose wheel?


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QUOTE(ccfook2123 @ Jan 11 2011, 01:24 AM)
parrot ar drone seems very interesting^^
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hey, long time din hear from you, have you found your bcp main gear ar?

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yes ... epoxy is strong enough if u do it properly
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yes ... epoxy is strong enough if u do it properly
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Then I have to ask further, what do you mean by do it properly? blush.gif

Can you give an example ar?

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QUOTE(daddoo @ Jan 11 2011, 09:40 PM)
Crashed my cessna in a windy landing ....

Firewall broken apart so the place that hold the nose wheel axle also came out, since it is made of nylon is that possible to repair using epoxy ar?

After epoxy repair would it strong enough to hold the nose wheel?


Added on January 11, 2011, 9:42 pm

hey, long time din hear from you, have you found your bcp main gear ar?
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i will be playing again soon^^
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doing properly = mod/repair to make it same or better than b4 by strengthening or repositioning etc etc
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Lol....
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so funny meh ?? hehehehe
but seriously ... if u do make repairs and do it properly it WILL BE STRONGER and BETTER than it originally was b4 coz those china ppl simply assemble and just stuff into box ... production line maaa
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I will know by testing my cessna later on ......
The repairing looks promising as the firewall quite strong when I shake the axle ..... nothing break .....
Hopefully it works else I think I will just turn the cessna into a hand-launched plane .....

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My Precision Aerobatics Addiction! smile.gif

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Overhauled my heli, replaced with 3 x Hitec 65MG, Futaba 9257 + GY520, NEW Scorpion 2221-10 Brushless and Turnigy Plush 40a. Hehehe but my frame is HK Clone la, no money, if got money i bought Belt Cp and piroflip already like what Ccfook currently doing now. biggrin.gif biggrin.gif biggrin.gif he he he.

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Ohhhhhhh, BCP ah I have a place that I can tell you to get it for free .... no need to buy, want to know where?

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NAH, thanks, because there is alot in Singapore Central Rubbish Chute. But your BCP is rare, ccfook bcp is precious, that is why he's keeping it in the store piroflipping at the flying field just like how i predicted in our old thread....he he he. betul tak betul?

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hi all sifus,

Have been trying to read thru all the postings starting from v2, but the 129 pages of info + with all those external information from v2 just clogged my brain, so I finish v3 instead.

Anyway, I have been wondering how it feels to control a RC heli, have been wanting to get one for a long time dy, and now I finally decided ... smile.gif, I am not so keen about toy grade but I am just too new/fresh into hobby grade, anyway ..

I am looking for:

1. RC Heli that can use for indoor as well as outdoor, indoor for training first, then outdoor for the real thing .. tongue.gif ... I will give outdoor higher priorities if I can't get both ... err, does those heli with simulator mode really helps for training?

2. can do more stunts with good precise control so that I won't get bored so fast with only up, down, left, right ... tongue.gif >> this depends on the rx/tx right? and more channel = more action/stunts? What is the minimum channel to start with?

3. easy to find spare parts for repair and upgrade, and of course hopefully not too expensive on the parts

4. What are the other things that I should take note before deciding on which heli to purchase.

I am basically open to anything since I have not much clue about this hobby and I have not decided on anything yet.

Cheers.
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what is your budget ??
u must be ready to face lots of frustration and repair/setup work ...
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QUOTE(QiW @ Jan 15 2011, 10:02 PM)
what is your budget ??
u must be ready to face lots of frustration and repair/setup work ...
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Hmm ... budget ... lets say for a starting probably I can throw in RM1K ...

By the way, was also wondering those heli selling in some stalls/small shops in malls, I guess those are from China, do you all even think worth to look at for starting? or it is better to get it from some real RC shops?
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I guess u might b a photographer, hehehe ur models r so sexy ...
Go for trex 550e if possible, but that would roughly cost u more than rm4000 if u have nothing at all.
It should be a nice heli but I din own it since I have replaced it with an apple .....
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QUOTE(daddoo @ Jan 15 2011, 10:22 PM)
I guess u might b a photographer, hehehe ur models r so sexy ...
Go for trex 550e if possible, but that would roughly cost u more than rm4000 if u have nothing at all.
It should be a nice heli but I din own it since I have replaced it with an apple .....
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err... not really a photographer, just a hobbyist.

anyway, RM4000 is out of my budget, I already have too many very expensive hobby, I will probably prefer to start with something lower first, not too sure how far I could go, but I would also like to reserve the possibility of going further.


>> By the way, was also wondering those heli selling in some stalls/small shops in malls, I guess those are from China, do you all even think worth to look at for starting? or it is better to get it from some real RC shops?

any suggestion?
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Quite a lot of people starts with lama. But I start with those china made coaxial heli too. Then straight into 6 channels.
It is really recommended to get a simulator though.
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QUOTE(daddoo @ Jan 15 2011, 11:43 PM)
Quite a lot of people starts with lama. But I start with those china made coaxial heli too. Then straight into 6 channels.
It is really recommended to get a simulator though.
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I have seen you all use this term <coaxial heli> ... but I could not figure it out what does it mean? and what is the difference of it with others.

Do you mind to explain a bit more?

Thanx.
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http://www.google.com.my/images?hl=en&sour...qi=g10&aql=&oq=
coaxial

up and down blades

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QUOTE(ccfook2123 @ Jan 16 2011, 02:58 AM)
Got it, thanx.

But what is the main difference of this coaxial heli with the other types (if it has a name for it ... tongue.gif) ... more stable on the flights?
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QUOTE(sLapshock @ Jan 15 2011, 04:41 PM)
NAH, thanks, because there is alot in Singapore Central Rubbish Chute. But your BCP is rare, ccfook bcp is precious, that is why he's keeping it in the store piroflipping at the flying field  just like how i predicted in our old thread....he he he. betul tak betul?
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why you so SIBUK ?
i buy heli
you sibuk
i keep in store
you sibuk

what also you sibuk


who are you? do i know you?
memang penyibuk


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QUOTE(sweeann @ Jan 16 2011, 03:10 AM)
Got it, thanx.

But what is the main difference of this coaxial heli with the other types (if it has a name for it ... tongue.gif) ... more stable on the flights?
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last time, yes, coaxial is much stable
but now, the technology is improved
,so im not sure
to me, coaxial is much slower, so it is much stable haha


coaxial is normally slower but definitely more than enough for beginner, coaxial are designed for beginner


if you want to play outdoor
you have to buy something bigger

so lama v3 or lamav4 is definitely not your choice


also there is fixed pitch and collective pitch heli

fixed pitch=the angle of the blades are fixed so the heli lift depends on the motor speed

collective pitch= the heli lift depends on the motor speed and the blades angle

4 channel are fixed pitch heli
6 channel are most collective pitch heli

i would suggest you to buy famous brand so that easier for you to find spare parts
4 channel is more than enough before you decided to throw your money in this hobby

dont buy below 4 channel, because you will regret

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this is a COAXIAL heli
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this is a SINGLE ROTOR heli
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most coaxials comes with a radio controller which are not programmable
those coaxial sets mostly costs around rm200 or so depending on what model u get
these are in between TOY GRADE and HOBBY GRADE
but u will not be able to fly it outdoors IF there is WIND or BREEZE ... even soft breeze

on the other hand .. collective pitch single rotor heli (CP) can be flown outdoors even with quite strong winds
fixed pitch single rotor helis (FP) are quite limited in choices ... some comes with the radio controller
but these can still be flown with slight breeze outfoors

if u opt for something like a CP to start with it will be extremely difficult and frustrating due to the nature of the heli always wanting to crash coz u cannot control it
and u will spend lots of time and $$$ to repair it
and u will need a radio controller most probably coz most reputable CP helis do not come with it

this is a budget radio controller
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since u have stated u do not wanna go over rm1k in your starting budget
the choices will be quite limited
these are what u can get for CP helis
http://www.rcsmart.com.my/webshaper/store/...roductItem=5048
http://www.rcsmart.com.my/webshaper/store/...roductItem=4971
http://www.rcsmart.com.my/webshaper/store/...roductItem=5004
http://www.rcsmart.com.my/webshaper/store/...roductItem=5053

for coaxials/ FP helis
these are the common choices
http://graffititoys.com/Helicopter4Channel.html

but be aware those FPs and coaxials will have a lot of trouble with breeze outdoors

to summarise
COAXIALS ~ rm200 >> damm easy to fly but no wind conditions
FP single rotors ~ rm300 not easy to fly but its closer to CP characters and can take small wind
CP single rotors ~ rm1.8k onwards .. damm hard to learn but can be flown almost anywhere depending on size once u master it

only CP helis are capable of doing inverted stuff such as flips and rolls as well as other advanced 3D manuevers
FP helis are able to do minor aerobatics with much skill
coaxials just floats around and probably will teach a little about orientation

remember u still have to budget for batteries and chargers as well as repairs costs
ESKY is not my 1st choice for helis but since u are on a limited budget they are the only ones available UNLESS u are willing to buy 2nd hand stuff
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QUOTE(ccfook2123 @ Jan 16 2011, 03:14 AM)
why you so SIBUK ?
i buy heli
you sibuk
i keep in store
you sibuk

what also you sibuk
who are you? do i know you?
memang penyibuk

kakakkakakakakaka, fire man in singapore too free maybe, no need to catch snake rclxm9.gif


Added on January 16, 2011, 12:26 pm
But it is not recommended if a newbie starts with 6ch CP heli .....

Can try a big big lama since it can fly in little wind environment ..... but this time not so suitable indoor anymore .... hehehhehe

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Hi .. thanx for the answer and this is good stuff ...why not copy-paste some of the info and put it on the first post of each version? just a suggestion, this should help reduce noobs question for beginner like me ... tongue.gif

For beginners like me who stumble upon this kind of thread will definitely want to start reading from post #1, but may not continue till the end due to the vast number of pages/posts. i.e 129 pages of v2 .. I stopped at page 20+, paiseh.

anyway, back to FP and CP ... how do I differentiate it from the physical checking? or from the specification?

Coz I am planning to go check out Dragon Mart, a mall just for selling Chinese products and goods, I've seen many shops there selling those china made RC heli ... wanna do some survey and comparison, before I go to the real RC hobbyist shop.


Added on January 16, 2011, 2:34 pmFound the following information about the FP vs CP:

http://www.helifever.com/fixed-pitch-vs-collective-pitch.php

so now I know how to differentiate.. smile.gif

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Yeap, that's the right information you've got!

So actually there are quite a lot of information around, if you want to fasest response, google is your buddy.


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QUOTE(daddoo @ Jan 16 2011, 03:07 PM)
Yeap, that's the right information you've got!

So actually there are quite a lot of information around, if you want to fasest response, google is your buddy.
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Yeah, trying to read more before deciding and make my purchase, to avoid getting a heli that does not suit me ... smile.gif

Now I wonder those Chinese made heli ... have you all come across any CP single rotor heli that comes with simulators ... tongue.gif ... and worth buying for beginners since china made stuff should be cheaper so starting costs will be much lower, or am I dreaming too much?
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Just dont get beltcp. You will regret. Play 1 time crash, buy spareparts (hard to get). Fix...play and crash, buy spareparts, fix again crash and keep in store bcoz no money to buy spareparts. Dont believe? Ask ccfook szabo. tongue.gif


Added on January 16, 2011, 4:36 pmBut last time i advice this guy, told him dont buy bcoz he will crash it and keep it in store bcoz spareparts is expensive, but got another pro-flyer tell him, just buy ( he himself cant do anything with beltcp except hover and crash)

So this guy bought beltcp, and love his belt cp, complaint on where to get spareparts, crash and keep it on store.

This is based on true story.

Hehehe. Fireman works 1day 2day off..so got alot of time.

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Hard to say lah, there was also a pro-flyer too, complaint on the Trex 450 Pro and gave very very bad comments but keep on complimenting on HK450 heli only.

I don't have 450 Pro before but from a lot of persons, they all quite happy with that heli actually lah, nothing to demand based on the price pay. Same to BCP actually, just check from the discussions from foreign forum, like helifreak, heliguy, I think their opinion is more neutral.

Follow your own preference sweeann and survey more to make your own decision, dun just listen to non-sense ....... huahahahhahaha



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i dont have single complain on belt cp really
you really SIBUK
i never said i cant find parts, i know where to get really
i asked so to get info where to get cheap parts for heli

its so normal for something HOT to out of stock
are you too stupid to understand this?


hey sweeann, just buy famous brand heli as i said
start with 4 channel first to see if you really like this hobby
4 channel can last you a few months d

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just buy a honeybee FP if u feel like a challenge
if u are just trying out whether u will like it or not .. then a LAMA will do fine and cheap
a BCP is a matter of taste and budget ... most with higher budget will tend to avoid the BCP but some have succeeded to a level with it and some have failed
everything is entirely up to u ... but if possible go to a flying field nearest to u and talk to the ppl flying there for more personalised advice and guidance
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Hehehehe, I think we have frightened sweeann ........


Added on January 17, 2011, 12:36 pm
QUOTE(ccfook2123 @ Jan 17 2011, 02:03 AM)
i dont have single complain on belt cp really
you really SIBUK
i never said i cant find parts, i know where to get really
i asked so to get info where to get cheap parts for heli

its  so normal for something HOT to out of stock
are you too stupid to understand this?
hey sweeann, just buy famous brand heli as i said
start with 4 channel first to see if you really like this hobby
4 channel can last you a few months d
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I don't know who is he talking about lah, but definitely not us ...... icon_rolleyes.gif

I am satisfied with my BCP too and now I can handle the sport flying quite well ...... most of the time the quality of a heli does matter but also there are some other factors behind, like how you doing the setup or the skill of the flyer. All I can say that, with very limited budget BCP can still doing its job nicely but don't expect it to fly like a T-Rex or Logo!

If someone is sure that they will live long with this hobby, go for the ultimate one rclxms.gif
The most important thing is to practice intensively in the simulator or else there is no use with super-good heli too ..... thumbup.gif

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i didnt recommend BCP cause it is not a good heli for beginner
if you buy BCP, you get what you paid for, if you expect more than that, just go for other heli, i dont know why BELT CP popped out.....

just like, if you buy proton, you dont expect Mercedes feel



remember to buy 4 channel at least
as SIFU QIW said, buy honeybee FP if you like challenge, go for ESKY coaxial if you want a reasonable price heli, good performance heli that worth its price to me,not forgot to mention, ESKY coaxial heli quite durable, easy to find spareparts, upgrade parts with reasonable price and very stable too

im a newbie too, so together we can learn, come to this thread always, BADDOO and QIW is always here to help


Added on January 17, 2011, 4:15 pmi didnt recommend BCP cause it is not a good heli for beginner
if you buy BCP, you get what you paid for, if you expect more than that, just go for other heli
BETWEEN, i dont know why BELT CP popped out..... SOME PENYIBUK

just like, if you buy proton, you dont expect Mercedes feel



remember to buy 4 channel at least
as SIFU QIW said, buy honeybee FP if you like challenge, go for ESKY coaxial if you want a reasonable price heli, good performance heli that worth its price to me,not forgot to mention, ESKY coaxial heli quite durable, easy to find spareparts, upgrade parts with reasonable price and very stable too

im a newbie too, so together we can learn, come to this thread always, BADDOO and QIW is always here to help


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ccfook, if you are mentioning about me, then my nickname is actually DADDOO tongue.gif
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QUOTE(sLapshock @ Jan 16 2011, 04:33 PM)
Just dont get beltcp. You will regret. Play 1 time crash, buy spareparts (hard to get). Fix...play and crash, buy spareparts, fix again crash and keep in store bcoz no money to buy spareparts. Dont believe? Ask ccfook szabo. tongue.gif


Added on January 16, 2011, 4:36 pmBut last time i advice this guy, told him dont buy bcoz he will crash it and keep it in store bcoz spareparts is expensive, but got another pro-flyer tell him, just buy ( he himself cant do anything with beltcp except hover and crash)

So this guy bought beltcp, and love his belt cp, complaint on where to get spareparts, crash and keep it on store.

This is based on true story.

Hehehe. Fireman works 1day 2day off..so got alot of time.
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Hi sLapshock,

thanx for the headsup.


QUOTE(daddoo @ Jan 16 2011, 05:38 PM)
Hard to say lah, there was also a pro-flyer too, complaint on the Trex 450 Pro and gave very very bad comments but keep on complimenting on HK450 heli only.

I don't have 450 Pro before but from a lot of persons, they all quite happy with that heli actually lah, nothing to demand based on the price pay. Same to BCP actually, just check from the discussions from foreign forum, like helifreak, heliguy, I think their opinion is more neutral.

Follow your own preference sweeann and survey more to make your own decision, dun just listen to non-sense ....... huahahahhahaha
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Hi daddoo,

But the T-Rex 450 Pro does look sexy, at least to me ... dunno got chance to fly it or not ... tongue.gif (without crashing it ... T__T)

Yeah, still doing more survey, have not got the chance to go to Dragon Mart yet, as it is quite far from my place, need to drive at least 30 minutes in high speed to reach there ...O_o

There is also a professional hobby shop in Dubai Mall where they sell a lot of cars, planes, heli and even boats ... will check that shop after I am done with Dragon Mart, so that I can compare and evaluate the choices I have in terms of quality and price.

QUOTE(ccfook2123 @ Jan 17 2011, 02:03 AM)
i dont have single complain on belt cp really
you really SIBUK
i never said i cant find parts, i know where to get really
i asked so to get info where to get cheap parts for heli

its  so normal for something HOT to out of stock
are you too stupid to understand this?
hey sweeann, just buy famous brand heli as i said
start with 4 channel first to see if you really like this hobby
4 channel can last you a few months d
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Hi ccfook2123,

Seriously, I do not know what brand is available here, as I have yet to start my real hunting yet, so far, have been only doing reading and readings, but from the shops I seen in Dragon Mart, those are mostly china made stuff, dun think those are even branded ...T__T ... but let me do more survey on the choices I have here first ... : )

QUOTE(QiW @ Jan 17 2011, 12:03 PM)
just buy a honeybee FP if u feel like a challenge
if u are just trying out whether u will like it or not .. then a LAMA will do fine and cheap
a BCP is a matter of taste and budget ... most with higher budget will tend to avoid the BCP but some have succeeded to a level with it and some have failed
everything is entirely up to u ... but if possible go to a flying field nearest to u and talk to the ppl flying there for more personalised advice and guidance
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Hi QiW,

I definitely would prefer some challenges, that is why I would prefer to leave the option to go further if I really like this hobby .. smile.gif, but I am too in a bit of dilemma on what to get:

1. easy to start/learn and cheaper but cannot go far heli, and then buy a 2nd more pro heli when ready; or
2. straight to a pro heli that is ready for all kinds of stunt with simulation mode, so that I can do the training in simulation mode first before the real flight

1st choice I will start cheap (RMx), and have a choice to stop if I dowan to proceed, and I end up only wasted 1 cheap heli, but if I decide to proceed, then I will end up aving 1 cheap heli + 1 pro heli (costs RMx + RMy), may still get a simulator for more difficult practice as well (RMz)

2nd choice I will start with higher costs, 1 pro heli + 1 simulator (RMy + RMz), and if I decide to stop, higher costs wasted, if I decide to proceed, save on 1 cheap heli.

>> but if possible go to a flying field nearest to u and talk to the ppl flying there for more personalised advice and guidance

I do not know anyone who is flying here in Dubai, and I dunno where they fly also ... sad.gif

QUOTE(daddoo @ Jan 17 2011, 12:26 PM)
Hehehehe, I think we have frightened sweeann ........


Added on January 17, 2011, 12:36 pm
I don't know who is he talking about lah, but definitely not us ......  icon_rolleyes.gif

I am satisfied with my BCP too and now I can handle the sport flying quite well ...... most of the time the quality of a heli does matter but also there are some other factors behind, like how you doing the setup or the skill of the flyer. All I can say that, with very limited budget BCP can still doing its job nicely but don't expect it to fly like a T-Rex or Logo!

If someone is sure that they will live long with this hobby, go for the ultimate one  rclxms.gif
The most important thing is to practice intensively in the simulator or else there is no use with super-good heli too .....  thumbup.gif
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Hi daddoo,

Hmm .... yeah, one of my problem is I do not know whether I will go how far in this hobby, as I have yet to try it out, if I have already try out and have decided, I will definitely know what I am looking for and how much money I should throw in.

hmmmmm .... after some deep thought, I think I will proceed with option 1, and only decide whether I want to proceed or not, I do not want to get a pro heli but end up a white elephant and become a deco only in my living hall.

QUOTE(ccfook2123 @ Jan 17 2011, 12:40 PM)
i didnt recommend BCP  cause it is not a good heli for beginner
if you buy BCP, you get what you paid for, if you expect more than that, just go for other heli, i dont know why BELT CP popped out.....

just like, if you buy proton, you dont expect Mercedes feel
remember to buy 4 channel at least
as SIFU QIW said, buy honeybee FP if you like challenge, go for ESKY coaxial if you want a reasonable price heli, good performance heli that worth its price to me,not forgot to mention, ESKY coaxial heli quite durable,  easy to find spareparts, upgrade parts with reasonable price and very stable too

im a newbie too, so together we can learn, come to this thread always, BADDOO and QIW is always here to help


Added on January 17, 2011, 4:15 pmi didnt recommend BCP  cause it is not a good heli for beginner
if you buy BCP, you get what you paid for, if you expect more than that, just go for other heli
BETWEEN, i dont know why BELT CP popped out..... SOME PENYIBUK

just like, if you buy proton, you dont expect Mercedes feel
remember to buy 4 channel at least
as SIFU QIW said, buy honeybee FP if you like challenge, go for ESKY coaxial if you want a reasonable price heli, good performance heli that worth its price to me,not forgot to mention, ESKY coaxial heli quite durable,  easy to find spareparts, upgrade parts with reasonable price and very stable too

im a newbie too, so together we can learn, come to this thread always, BADDOO and QIW is always here to help
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Hi ccfook2123,

at least 4 channel, hmmm ... I seen most of those chinese heli are of 3.5 channel only in Dragon Mart, but I only did a glance and did not actually go in and ask the shop keeper, dunno they got 4 channel and above one or not ... sad.gif

Really have to go there again one day and spend some time doing survey and talk to them.
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Please watch out that most of the 3.5ch heli from China is using Infrared. Should be those you have seen, those are considered toy-grade rc heli so if possible go for at least 4ch heli using RF to control. I think it is more fun to fly. I have one 3.5ch heli at home but it is not flyable anymore, it uses AA size battery to charge up from the transmitter.

I am agree to you that Trex 450 Pro is sexy but you have to pay a little more to play. The price of the heli is not really expensive but that's only for a heli, you need to get your own Tx/Rx, batteries and charger separately, tools to build the heli as well.


Added on January 17, 2011, 7:26 pm
By the way, are you a Malaysian? And working in Dubai?

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QUOTE(daddoo @ Jan 17 2011, 07:14 PM)
Please watch out that most of the 3.5ch heli from China is using Infrared. Should be those you have seen, those are considered toy-grade rc heli so if possible go for at least 4ch heli using RF to control. I think it is more fun to fly. I have one 3.5ch heli at home but it is not flyable anymore, it uses AA size battery to charge up from the transmitter.

I am agree to you that Trex 450 Pro is sexy but you have to pay a little more to play. The price of the heli is not really expensive but that's only for a heli, you need to get your own Tx/Rx, batteries and charger separately, tools to build the heli as well.
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Okay, will be careful with those 3.5 channel ones...

Was looking at the T-REX 450 from rcsmart, the one selling at RM1350 Super Combo set also din come with TX/RX, right? Coz I could not find it in the list:

ALIGN T-REX 450 SPORT Kit with Brushless Motor & Esc
https://www.rcsmart.com.my/webshaper/store/...roductItem=3008

RM 1000.00 RM 690.00

ALIGN T-REX 450 PRO Kit with Brushless Motor & Esc
https://www.rcsmart.com.my/webshaper/store/...roductItem=3007

RM 1050.00 RM 790.00

ALIGN T-REX 450 PRO Super Combo
https://www.rcsmart.com.my/webshaper/store/...roductItem=2377

RM 1350.00


If there is a need to get a TX/RX, what do you all recommend? If possible the TX should be compatible with for Simulator, so that I can get familiarize with the same TX.

Another question, normally no heli comes bundle with simulator?


Added on January 17, 2011, 7:35 pm
QUOTE(daddoo @ January 17, 2011, 7:26 pm)
By the way, are you a Malaysian? And working in Dubai?
Yes, I am a malaysian, and currently working in Dubai.

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To get all in a package I think only Lama has ..... including simulator.

ALIGN T-REX 450 PRO Super Combo - it only include just the heli and electronics. For example, servo, gyro, ESC, motor and the kit. It does not give you any other things. So for this combo you have to buy your own Tx/Rx, battery and charger.

Remember that T-Rex Pro and T-Rex Sport is not the same but both are 450 size.

If want to get a economical Tx/Rx you may want to consider what Qiw has recommended, should be Futaba 6EX.
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QUOTE(daddoo @ Jan 17 2011, 08:07 PM)
To get all in a package I think only Lama has ..... including simulator.

ALIGN T-REX 450 PRO Super Combo - it only include just the heli and electronics. For example, servo, gyro, ESC, motor and the kit. It does not give you any other things. So for this combo you have to buy your own Tx/Rx, battery and charger.

Remember that T-Rex Pro and T-Rex Sport is not the same but both are 450 size.

If want to get a economical Tx/Rx you may want to consider what Qiw has recommended, should be Futaba 6EX.
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okay okay ... thanx for the info ... smile.gif


Added on January 17, 2011, 9:25 pmBy the way, what do you guys think of a summarize of information for beginners on the 1st post of each thread?

I can help out a bit now since I am a beginner and I am looking for all kinds of information.

It would be good to have many useful information on the first page for beginners like me to do the reading, instead of browsing through 129 pages ... tongue.gif, and to avoid you all to keep answering the same question again and again.

Let me know what do you guys think, okay?

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HEhehe, please exclude me, lazy to do that together ......
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me oso ... normally most (99%) ppl will start with COAXIALS (me included) coz cheap and no worries about crashing it too much
and if u dont like it then u dont waste much $$$
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Hmmmm, it should be fun to fly in Dubai.
But here in Penang there are not much choices you have, it is not easy to find one around my living area.
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heli dont need hig space ... so still ok
planes sure die coz need serious space .. hahahahaha
luckily my area still got space ... but dunno when it will be gone coz the housing development catching up really fast where i fly
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Yaloh, 450size heli cannot b seen clearly after 100 meters approximately.
Those 550, 600, 700 dun know can go how far. But I think heli is not for flying far, it is more for 3d nowadays.
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some play heli for scale ... some for 3D
same goes for plane ... except plane can go faster and needs much bigger space
my 450 after 50m oso cannot see orientation properly liau lorr .. u still can go 100m very good already .. hehehehe
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QUOTE(daddoo @ Jan 18 2011, 01:41 PM)
HEhehe, please exclude me, lazy to do that together ......
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Okay ... then I'll drop the idea.

QUOTE(QiW @ Jan 18 2011, 02:33 PM)
me oso ... normally most (99%) ppl will start with COAXIALS (me included) coz cheap and no worries about crashing it too much
and if u dont like it then u dont waste much $$$
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I still have not got the time to go to Dragon Mart and Dubai to check out what options/brands I have, can only go this weekend, hopefully I can find something nice for me to start with.

If not have to buy from Malaysia and bring it over to Dubai dy.

QUOTE(daddoo @ Jan 19 2011, 03:29 PM)
Hmmmm, it should be fun to fly in Dubai.
But here in Penang there are not much choices you have, it is not easy to find one around my living area.
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Dunno ... still never fly here before ... tongue.gif

But I also thinking about the location, originally I though of driving into the desert and fly it from there, so even if crash also at least not hard ground, but read somewhere it is not advisable to fly the heli on dirt area, as it could get into the mechanical part of the heli. So I guess I will need to think of a place to fly once I got the heli.

QUOTE(QiW @ Jan 19 2011, 05:35 PM)
heli dont need hig space ... so still ok
planes sure die coz need serious space .. hahahahaha
luckily my area still got space ... but dunno when it will be gone coz the housing development catching up really fast where i fly
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Where do you fly your plane/heli wor?

QUOTE(daddoo @ Jan 19 2011, 08:15 PM)
Yaloh, 450size heli cannot b seen clearly after 100 meters approximately.
Those 550, 600, 700 dun know can go how far. But I think heli is not for flying far, it is more for 3d nowadays.
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Yeah, I am thinking if I decided to get the pro heli, I am eye-ing on the T-REX 450.

By the way, the normal TX/RX can go how far huh?

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i fly at bandar tun hussein onn cheras for now
most of the time i just fly planes .. occasionally i do take my heli out

most radios can go beyond 1.5km line of sight in perfect conditions ... our eyes cannot even see a normal car that far let alone an rc plane or heli
interference and lock outs are a totally different story
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QUOTE(QiW @ Jan 20 2011, 01:28 AM)
some play heli for scale ... some for 3D
same goes for plane ... except plane can go faster and needs much bigger space
my 450 after 50m oso cannot see orientation properly liau lorr .. u still can go 100m very good already .. hehehehe
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My 100m is just an estimation so that's y I said approximately tongue.gif
But my estimation was a bit inaccurate. Anyhow, my BCP I think can see properly around 50m with the white copterx canopy, it's big!


Added on January 20, 2011, 10:42 am
Sweeann, if financially allowed then of course go for trex ...
The tx I think u should get 7 channels because if u fly GP heli then will need that. Of course, six channels still do the job nicely for EP heli.

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7 channels IF u use the governor for nitro engines
if no governor used then 6 channels oso can
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How much is the difference for a 6-channel and 7-channel?

By the way, besides the following online stores:

graffititoys.com - http://graffititoys.com/ContactUs.html
rcsmart - http://www.rcsmart.com.my/index.asp
mymegastation - http://mymegastation.com/t1/home.php

Any other that I missed out? I mean local malaysian stores.
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Price is not the same, hehehehheheh.
It's simple actually lah, you have 1 more channel for control from 7ch compare to 6. I think 6ch usually come with basic feature and if the Tx has more channels then it will be quite complicated inside.

other than that you can also look for hobbysportz, rcdreamz and so on but some of the LHS selling quite expensive .....
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hobbytech ... hobbyworld ... rcsmart
3 of these LHS are in amcorp mall PJ
there is another couple of hobby shops in times square which i forgot the names already ... one o them is a KYOSHO distro

it is best to buy the best radio u can AFFORD
ie. if u can stretch your budget to buy a 7 channel then buy that ... if still can go higher then buy the higher one
i am using the 8FG .. this has all the features i need for the time being and the near future that i can foresee .. around rm1.3k
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I am using walkera 2801 pro tx. Hehe, as a newbie this eight channels tx is more than enough to me. This is a budget radio system so it may be slightly different with those branded like futaba. For example, the travel adjust for rudder servo in heli mode is used to set the travel speed. but in airplane mode it is used to adjust travel limit/angle.
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Found this store from google:

http://www.ultimate-heli.com/website_heli/heli_index.html

anything worth to look at?
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Nothing worth because the price is higher than Malaysia quite a lot. Trex 450 pro is only RM1350.

Hehe,coming back during cny? Then get it here loh tongue.gif
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yalorr ... super expensive just comparing the 450PRO
the others i dunno laa .. hahahaha

get your stuff here in BOLEHLAND .. its much cheaper !!!
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Yeah ... noticed that, the price here is O_o, another shop I found in dubai, the price is killing ... I might as well order from Hong Kong and wait for it to arrive:

http://hobbycentre-uae.com/index.php

And look what I found in Dubai:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=544GSRt4NLU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=21DnRIMGrok&NR=1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IUAG-zEj3AQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WMXnq8aT4Kw

I wonder are they still active on every friday as those post was at least 6 months back, haha, if active, I sure dun mind to drive up there and check them out.


Added on January 21, 2011, 1:46 pmAnother question, is Walkera worth to look at? Heard they have Walkera in Dragon Mart, so going there tonight to check it out .. smile.gif

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So far I have only one micro heli (120 size maybe) from Walkera, the 4G6 and Qiw has the 4G6S.

To be frankly I am happy with this small little heli but it is harder to learn compare to BCP, one thing good is that it is more durable in a small crash. I am using this heli as my trainer heli to learn new flying style.

The cost to get one of this RTF is not cheap though. Also take note that micro heli usually hard to survive in windy condition, the bigger the heli the better they handle the wind.

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Stay away from walkera or esky beltcp, u will eventually keep it in store after a few crash. Less spareparts and expensive. Stick to trex or trex clones, parts are everywhere and cheap.


Added on January 21, 2011, 6:58 pmYou might want to join malaysiarc for details, they are far more experience and i bet none of them reccomend beltcp as it makes your learning curve steeper. Ask qiw he used to fly beltcp then change to trex.

The rest dont bother. I saw one guy keeping their heli in store, i bet he will never fly his beltcp again, he even have the chick to put his trash on sale, lol, what a joke.

Anw its all personal preference lah, if u wanted something to fill up the store or thrash, beltcp, period.

If you think you want to enjoy rc heli, trex or trex clones.

I played trex, clones and beltcp, the latter ones are thrash.


Added on January 21, 2011, 7:05 pmForget to mrntion KDS is a good brand too.

Anw, visit the link below, u get better advice than u could get frm here.

http://malaysia-rc.com/index.php?board=13.0

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Ohhhhh, QIW you used to fly BCP before. Why never tell me? tongue.gif
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Coz u was still collecting stamp and old coins? Hahahaha!
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i have never touched a BCP b4 ... except for maybe in the shop touch see see .. hahahahahhaa

its easy to say dont this and dont but everybody's limitations are not the same .. so choices are made according to their limitations

why work in SG travel up and down when u can work in malaysia for example ?? cannot make a living in malaysia ?? thats a sort of limitation but its different for everybody and their reasons
we can only try to pass on our experiences to others .. thats all
i have NEVER FLOWN a BCP but i have fellow flyers that says its a POS and i am know they can fly pretty well so i just pass on the word
the final choice is always dependent on each individual and the choice may not be the same for everyone ...
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QUOTE(QiW @ Jan 22 2011, 12:20 AM)
i have never touched a BCP b4 ... except for maybe in the shop touch see see .. hahahahahhaa

its easy to say dont this and dont but everybody's limitations are not the same .. so choices are made according to their limitations

why work in SG travel up and down when u can work in malaysia for example ?? cannot make a living in malaysia ?? thats a sort of limitation but its different for everybody and their reasons
we can only try to pass on our experiences to others .. thats all
i have NEVER FLOWN a BCP but i have fellow flyers that says its a POS and i am know they can fly pretty well so i just pass on the word
the final choice is always dependent on each individual and the choice may not be the same for everyone ...
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Yeah, that is what I am trying to bring out .....

Going to invert my 4g6 very soon ....... Wahahahahaha, most likely I will crash it again.
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i actually wanted to say the same thing with sweeann
should have put more info in first post

you guys spam la till 225 pages, then i will open a new thread with INFO^^

daddoo you selling your BCP? who is the one slapshock mentioning?

sweeann, dont bother so much first , just buy a 4 channel to try first^^

its definitely your first step to get into this hobby

most recommend you to get simulator first
but to learn hover, i say you buy a 4 channel one first



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Well, maybe i mistaken it for zhnme. But i remember clearly in the old thread that you qiw discourage me from getting beltcp, that was in april last year when i was with lama v3.

Well, things are otherwise now, lol, wonder why.

Anw, things are different here compared to the old times in the old thread, newbie post acting sifoo really irks me, guess who.

Well i may seem against newbie getting beltcp bcoz of the steep learning curve that they had to go through, but look at those who deny facts? How much had they progress? I only remember one keeping it in store and another one only hovering. Yeah, thats the magic of esky beltcp v2.

While i maybe flying only clones and align trex 250 (sold my trex pro coz i prefer my hk clones) and look where am i progressing now? Hovering??? That was in june last year mate. I bet i am still hovering or searching ard for obsolete parts if i bought belt cp, early june last year.

Have fun guys, just dont advice newbirds the wrong things which i see alot here. eg: but to learn hover, i say you buy a 4 channel one first

dude, if its a 4ch fixed pitch heli its acceptable but hovering 4ch and hovering 6ch is totally different. u can only learn orientation with 4ch! BE DETAIL or REFRAIN yourself frm advising newbie the wrong stuff, they did not intend to fill up their stores with rc heli's.



Happy flyin! Ciao.

P/s: to mr qiw, if u r referring to me for your concept of nt working in msia bcoz of limitation is totally wrong. its nt tht i cant make a living in msia, its bcoz u nd to google: opportunities. smile.gif

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QUOTE(ccfook2123 @ Jan 22 2011, 03:02 AM)
i actually wanted to say the same thing with sweeann
should have put more info in first post

you guys spam la till 225 pages, then i will open a new thread with INFO^^

daddoo you selling your BCP? who is the one slapshock mentioning?

sweeann, dont bother so much first , just buy a 4 channel to try first^^

its definitely your first step to get into this hobby

most recommend you to get simulator first
but to learn hover, i say you buy a 4 channel one first
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Anyway, just listen those u think it is right, here in the forum we have no right to stop people saying. I used to argue a lot with others but it is actually useless.

Hehehehe, now I know why people said Singaporean very very kiasu! rclxms.gif




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to make myself clear, did i say im a pro?

i did mention im just a newbie just a few post before this
hohoho, i just dont understand why BCP came out in this topic,


everyone in this hobby knew that, you almost always get what you paid
so you paying a rm600, want to get rm1500's feel? as i said, STUPID!
you can see how stupid some people are, they comparing trex with bcp
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i can hover BELT CP V2 at second flight or 3rd flight without myself knowing this
i dont have simulator for your info
i only trained to hover in small space with lamav3 with all trim sticks messed up

that was how i learn to hover

if we dont have the right to share opinions, this is not a forum
i was just sharing my experience, to have 1 things done, not only 1 way
slapshock said newbie cannot share experience, will miss leading others newbie


have someone to guide you, the best if in person, you will save a lot cash, learn to repair and trim the heli by your own

you expect to crash if you step into this hobby, its all depends on yourself how many times you will need to crash until you are AS PRO AS SLAPSHOCK, he just said he is a pro, so i assume he is pro la

QIW and DAddoo also suggested me to buy sim
i think thats only for you after you step into 6 channel la
4 channel almost flies itself, no need sim la^^

none of us in this forum suggested SWEEAN to buy bcp,
i think all of us adviced to avoid this if got budget
trex is reliable choice if you want 6 channel
4 channel esky, walkera best choice as the parts easy to get
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yes ... i do not recommend the BCP at all to any 1st time or even 2nd time heli buyers
the repairs and upgrades for it will prolly cost u more than an ALIGN ... just to make it fly like an ALIGN or the ALIGN's capabilities

just have a look at mr zhnme's BCP ... upgrade/mod this and that
but in the end still end up with 450PRO ...
and u must have the skill and know how to mod too
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Hehe, weather so hot outside ...... I am feeling hot too!
Sweeann, how is the weather in Dubai now?
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i just got cb180d

tested it on the spot i received it after i fully charged it to make sure its working

woot! flies just like an co-axial after i tuned the linkages

only when you lift it, it act like 6channel, tilt a little bit more then co-axial

even much stable then big lama when fast throttle

but forward flight, is a little slow, just like coaxial or the most a little bit faster, because the swash plate only can go to 45 degree-of course u can do some small mod to make its forward flight faster, but im now comparing original out of box one


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Hehehe, why not u get those walkera six channels micro heli?
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post Jan 23 2011, 12:10 PM

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haha, i buy and sell only..
no money to buy 1 for myself
will definitely get 1 when i got money^^
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If u buy and sell then not rugi meh?
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got at good price i think
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if u can sell means u are getting it at good price lorr .. hahahaha
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hahaha,havent sold it
but i have checked from local hobby shop
my selling price is rm50 at least cheaper
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err ... sometimes the prices u see at the sites may not be accurate coz if u go to shop personally and bargain u can get quite good price

but if it works for u then i am happy for u ... smile.gif
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QUOTE(QiW @ Jan 22 2011, 02:03 PM)
yes ... i do not recommend the BCP at all to any 1st time or even 2nd time heli buyers
the repairs and upgrades for it will prolly cost u more than an ALIGN ... just to make it fly like an ALIGN or the ALIGN's capabilities

just have a look at mr zhnme's BCP ... upgrade/mod this and that
but in the end still end up with 450PRO ...
and u must have the skill and know how to mod too
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hehehe.... There is lot of gaps between belt-cp and trex. Some of newbie maybe won't know it but for my case; I have to mod it as my skill demand for it. As for QIW, he knew that I always fly in 3D mode. Due the low durability of stock belt-Cp, I need to mod it so it can accept my flying style for some period of time before I'm changing it to another heli. Either way, as I know and maybe others know also, durability of belt-cp is not as expected. As for most of the part is quite easily broke due time, flying skill, and our precious fingers. The mod I have done for my belt-CP is only change it's electronics, change the main rotorhead and tail system. Others were the same as stock. Such as linkage system. I use full set dragonus head coz the swashplate is the same as esky except it's much more better in cyclic management. I have lot's of fun and knowledge from Belt-CP though. It teach me more on technical stuff and requirement for each type of flying skill. I hone my skill from belt-cp quite alot. I'm learning in hard way. I know the limit of Belt-CP and I tried to push it as far as it can go until it broke into two pieces after one hard tictoc stroke in Shah Alam. After change it to Trex Pro 450, my skill became more transparent due the agility of the trex itself.

Yes, I have spend alot for Belt-CP (my previous is King 2) but the knowledge I've gain from it is priceless. Either way, for me, it's depend on the person itself. As for QIW, I have flew quite numbers of flying session with QIW and he knew how I fly.

Lastly it's depend on how deep is our pocket; will be the judge of everything.

I'm still in intermediate class in heli flying skill.
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Hehehe, from your video I am so impress lah, very very good for me already.
Don't know when I can go up to your level since I don't fly so frequent. I think I would not mod my BCP but definitely will be a total upgrade when I am ready to do so.


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err ... sometimes the prices u see at the sites may not be accurate coz if u go to shop personally and bargain u can get quite good price

but if it works for u then i am happy for u ... smile.gif
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Will you help to buy for me and I pay 20% commission to you from the price saving? tongue.gif
I always have to pay the online price for online purchase icon_question.gif

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not all items ... some items can get for quite good price compared to the advertised price
thats why i buy my planes mostly from LHS .. some thru OHS IF the LHS do not have what i want
but batts and electronics cannot beat the prices from HK kaaa .. hahahahahaa

mr zhnme already outgrow his modded BCP ... and ALIGN has became really affordable compared to few years ago
as he has mentioned ... the TREX is more transparent
so if your fingers and thumbs not so good then maybe the TREX will show it more apparently laa ... hehehehe
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Belt-CP is good heli to restrain yourself. As the user know the limit and he will only fly within the limit. once he turn to align or other good heli, the user will exceed the limit double. heheh
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Do you think you need very good upgrade to do invert hovering?
Hehehe, I have upgraded only a KDS800 gyro and Turnigy DS480 tail servo.
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QUOTE(daddoo @ Jan 25 2011, 10:11 PM)
Do you think you need very good upgrade to do invert hovering?
Hehehe, I have upgraded only a KDS800 gyro and Turnigy DS480 tail servo.
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If only inverted hovering, I can do without any upgrade. For my case is totally different. When I flying Belt-CP, I already do the hurricane, side tictoc, reverse inverted circle, half piro flipping (not piro-flip). The very first inverted hover I've done is with King 2 and using stock esky brushless motor & esc, stock purple gyro, and stock radio. Quite hard to do that time but manage it.

Hovering King 2 in my old house


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http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=1648642&hl=
take your time and have a look thanks^^


Added on January 27, 2011, 1:40 am
QUOTE(QiW @ Jan 25 2011, 09:44 AM)
err ... sometimes the prices u see at the sites may not be accurate coz if u go to shop personally and bargain u can get quite good price

but if it works for u then i am happy for u ... smile.gif
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thanks
what you said is right as always^^


the rc shop i went is located at timesquare
that shop providing very good service and good price too
all the customer went there also said the price is the lowest they found

and im comparing my price with that shop la

hehe



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Errr, do you care to break-in your new lipo?
If yes then how you do that?
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i saw from somewhere
dont use until below 50% for first 5-10 times

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hi all,

sorry for the late reply ... was busy with work

anyway, bought 2 heli ....

1x small 3.5 channel coaxial heli to be fly inside my hotel apartment
1x 450 size aslo 3.5 channel coaxial heli to be fly outside

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Just got them last week, so far only practice the small one in room, no chance to test the big one yet.

Why 3.5 only? coz the price difference from 3.5 to 4 channel here is quite a lot, so try with 3.5 first lor, even crash also no problem... here dubai everything also expensive ... sad.gif

Anyway, the small heli seems not so difficult to fly wor ... I got all the basic commands working, up down front back ... just that it is not so stable hovering ... I mean probably the TX/RX not so sensitive or what, I push up a bit of throttle it goes too high, I push down a bit, it goes too low, so I have to keep pushing up and down so that it doesn't hit the ceiling and doesn't hit the floor ... tongue.gif

I will be back during CNY.

QiW ... u flying in Tun Hussien Onn? I wanna see how u fly ler ...

I will not be bringing back my that bigger version of heli, but probably will check out a Align 450 here in KL.

By the way, whats the main difference of a 450 Pro and Sports?

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its is not hard to play 3.5channel heli because it is hovering by itself
but to control it to specific place you want, its harder than 4 channel
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saw those RC heli's at kota damansara uptown last nite...damn i really2 tempted to buy, i dunno much about rc heli, but the one i saw yesterday was pretty big in size, got gyro and sell for rm180..they did a demo flying around the place..

those this rc heli worth for money, i mean juz for having fun once a while for good sake..where can i can any cheaper or much better quality?
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Errrrr, I think for this hobby you should understand WYPIWYG.

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QUOTE(sweeann @ Jan 27 2011, 08:53 PM)
hi all,

sorry for the late reply ... was busy with work

anyway, bought 2 heli ....

1x small 3.5 channel coaxial heli to be fly inside my hotel apartment
1x 450 size aslo 3.5 channel coaxial heli to be fly outside

tongue.gif

Just got them last week, so far only practice the small one in room, no chance to test the big one yet.

Why 3.5 only? coz the price difference from 3.5 to 4 channel here is quite a lot, so try with 3.5 first lor, even crash also no problem... here dubai everything also expensive ... sad.gif

Anyway, the small heli seems not so difficult to fly wor ... I got all the basic commands working, up down front back ... just that it is not so stable hovering ... I mean probably the TX/RX not so sensitive or what, I push up a bit of throttle it goes too high, I push down a bit, it goes too low, so I have to keep pushing up and down so that it doesn't hit the ceiling and doesn't hit the floor ... tongue.gif

I will be back during CNY.

QiW ... u flying in Tun Hussien Onn? I wanna see how u fly ler ...

I will not be bringing back my that bigger version of heli, but probably will check out a Align 450 here in KL.

By the way, whats the main difference of a 450 Pro and Sports?
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Trex Pro is Tork Tube Driven and Sport is Belt-Driven,
3.5 channel is only a toy, 4 channel full control heli, but 6-channel is professional rc stuff. Big different from each type.

3.5 =
- even your children can flew it for first time without doing anything on the heli or radio.
- one time buy. no spare part as i've known.
- mostly claim to be full orientated heli but the only it can do is up down piro. forward, backward, side is depend on environment.

4.0 =
- Need abit setup and training to fly it.
- Some brand has spare part such as walkera or esky.
- Got all surface control from up down forward reverse side piro
- Good stuff to learn and get use of flying orientation.
- also not a toy. be wary the blade can cut through paper; which mean ur skin easily.

6.0 =
- Need a lot of training and crash is unavoidable.
- Most 6 channel heli have spare part available (depend on the LHS)
- Need precise setup.
- Capable to fly inverted and any hard core 3D (depend on skill)
- Not a toy. The headspeed for main rotohead exceed 2000rpm. Even mine is about 2800rpm.

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Wow, don't know what would happen if a 700 size hit you ... It can drag a toy car with a person sitting on top.

Youtube - 700 Drag

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if a 700 hits u ... chances are u will be heavily injured or dead(if the blades hits u)
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I think so, the blade can totally chop your hand off.

My nail hit by a 450 size tail blade before, then got bruise already and that moment only 1/3 throttle only.

Hehehe, so this is not really a toy ...... must take it seriously.

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those 700 blades will hit u like samurai sword at those speeds
even 450 blades are like parang already ...
these are NOT TOYs ..
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450 blades can make hole on wall!
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where can i get cheapest spare part for lama v3 around kl area?
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try rcsmart at amcorp mall or grafitti at berjaya times square ..
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Was wondering, is there any TX that is compatible with any Simulator program out there?

I mean if I want to do practice/simulator with the real TX instead of a mock-up TX.
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So far I know realflight, reflex, pheonix can use with our normal radio like futaba or JR or spectrum. The only thing is the cable and setup.
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QUOTE(zhnme523 @ Feb 1 2011, 02:41 PM)
So far I know realflight, reflex, pheonix can use with our normal radio like futaba or JR or spectrum. The only thing is the cable and setup.
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Okay, then I go find a TX first and do practice ... smile.gif
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happy chinese new year!
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happy CNY to all u guys and gals 2 .. hehehe
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QiW ... when u do flying? Me also staying in Cheras area ... smile.gif
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now u have seen RC plane flying ...
too bad nobody brought any helis to fly ... hahahaha
next time maybe
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this heli forum is a bit quiet lately, been away for more than a week but not many reply tongue.gif

hehhehehe, I am back ..... Gong Xi Fat Cai !!!
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for cny, angpau is not the main thing la
hahaha

my angpau never change, every years also rm2++ the most

but , i enjoy ! gathering with friends and family
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looking for the small size RC helicopter, anyone know where can buy it?


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Went to "The RC Shop" in BTS, had some chat with the boss there.

Was thinking of getting a Futaba 8FGH + R6008HS + with the *ahem* Flight Simulation CD for some practicing, then only get the ALIGN 450SE when got enough practice, maybe will try plane too if I like it ... tongue.gif

What do you guys think?
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QUOTE(sweeann @ Feb 11 2011, 02:25 AM)
Went to "The RC Shop" in BTS, had some chat with the boss there.

Was thinking of getting a Futaba 8FGH + R6008HS + with the *ahem* Flight Simulation CD for some practicing, then only get the ALIGN 450SE when got enough practice, maybe will try plane too if I like it ... tongue.gif

What do you guys think?
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good idea .. proceed .. hehehehe


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looking for the small size RC helicopter, anyone know where can buy it?
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what is your definition of rc heli ?
there are those toy grade stuff below rm100

small "real" rc heli costs about rm200 for very very basic ez to fly coaxials

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Futaba's 6 channels vs 8 channels vs 10 channels

Besides the extra channels, any more difference for justification to go for higher channels?


Added on February 11, 2011, 3:00 pmhttp://www.futaba-rc.com/radios/feature-compare.html

Found my answer .... smile.gif

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QUOTE(QiW @ Feb 11 2011, 11:23 AM)
good idea .. proceed .. hehehehe


Added on February 11, 2011, 11:25 am

what is your definition of rc heli ?
there are those toy grade stuff below rm100

small "real" rc heli costs about rm200 for very very basic ez to fly coaxials
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my budget is around rm200, just wan a basic Rc helicopter, easy to control..thatsall.

i stay in Pj area..where can buy it? and wat brand should i buy?
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esky lama v3 with you budget
definitely worth its price^^

around rm200
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Hi,

I am looking for Futaba 7C.
Anybody knows where I can get it.

Thanks for answering.
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where can get esky lama v3 in pj area?
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where can get esky lama v3 in pj area?
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here ... http://www.rcsmart.com.my/webshaper/store/...t.asp?catID=367
there are 3 shops in amcorp mall selling RC stuff .. check out what they have and prices


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Hi,

I am looking for Futaba 7C.
Anybody knows where I can get it.

Thanks for answering.
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7C hard to get nowadays ...
u can opt for 6ex or 8fg or 10c .. 6 ex is the cheapest of coz
u can try looking for 7c 2nd hand too

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go hold both radios ... see which "feel" u prefer
8fg is actually a 10 channel radio ... 8 proportional and 2 end points
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tomoro morning not flying ..
evening maybe flying laa ... tuesday morning for sure flying
all pending good weather conditions of coz .. hehehe

if u just wanna see heli flying ... can come over to my place tomoro morning around 830am ... got small field nearby can fly heli there
sms me tonite b4 midnite so i can charge some batts
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QUOTE(QiW @ Feb 13 2011, 10:18 PM)
tomoro morning not flying ..
evening maybe flying laa ... tuesday morning for sure flying
all pending good weather conditions of coz .. hehehe

if u just wanna see heli flying ... can come over to my place tomoro morning around 830am ... got small field nearby can fly heli there
sms me tonite b4 midnite so i can charge some batts
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Where's the place.

like to see n learn something

Tq.
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I think I have lost the senses already .....
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its like riding a bicycle ... u never forget but u may get rusty laa
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normaly this hoppy u all ply alone or ply with group..??
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i try to fly with a group as much as possible
flying alone will kill the hobby really quick ... most of the time
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icic..still thiking wan to ply this hoppy or not..cos alone ply..hah.
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Not applicable to me I think, I have been a lonely flier most of the time for more than a year ... and still love it.

I was learning tail-first circle before this, not sure if I can still fly without crash when I get to touch me heli again ......
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hehehehe
whatever works lorr ...
daddoo fly planes alone oso ah ??
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Qiw r u flying today.

Want to go n see if nearby Jb are.

Am thinking into this hobby.

Tq.
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Occasionally I will go out to fly plane with others ....... hehhehehehe
depends lah .... but 95% of the time I am flying alone .... including plane and heli.....

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Yesterday just got myself :

1. Align T-REX 450 PRO Super Combo Set
2. Futaba 8FGH 2.4Ghz Radio System + R6008HS (High Speed) Receiver
3. Thunder Multifunction Charger/Discharger
4. Kensun Power 11.1V 2200maH 25CLi-Poly Battery
5. KDS Model Specialised Tools Kit for RC Helicopter Set
6. FeiYing Simulator - RealFlight G2-G4, Reflex XTR, AeroFly Professional Deluxe, Phoenix RC

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QUOTE(sweeann @ Feb 15 2011, 10:41 AM)
Yesterday just got myself :

Align T-REX 450 PRO Super Combo Set
Futaba 8FGH 2.4Ghz Radio System + R6008HS (High Speed) Receiver
2200maH 25C Battery
Allan Key Set
Charger Thunder
Simulator
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i love this!


Added on February 15, 2011, 10:59 amhow much all these?

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Qiw r u flying today.

Want to go n see if nearby Jb are.

Am thinking into this hobby.

Tq.
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i am in KL ... not JB
slapshock is in JB area i think ... maybe u can ask him


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QUOTE(sweeann @ Feb 15 2011, 10:41 AM)
Yesterday just got myself :

1. Align T-REX 450 PRO Super Combo Set
2. Futaba 8FGH 2.4Ghz Radio System + R6008HS (High Speed) Receiver
3. Thunder Multifunction Charger/Discharger
4. Kensun Power 11.1V 2200maH 25CLi-Poly Battery
5. KDS Model Specialised Tools Kit for RC Helicopter Set
6. FeiYing Simulator - RealFlight G2-G4, Reflex XTR, AeroFly Professional Deluxe, Phoenix RC
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this will keep u busy for the next 6 months ... depending on your progress and crash rate .. hehehehe

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Qiw r u flying today.

Want to go n see if nearby Jb are.

Am thinking into this hobby.

Tq.
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JB have alot people flying Heli and Planes.
Welcome smile.gif
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Hi All,

I am charging my Futaba 8FG now ... there is a light on the adapter, permanently on, but there is no indication on the Radio that it is being charge, and may I ask how do I know when the charging is complete?

I could not find the above information in the manual.

Thanx.
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i remove my batt from the radio to charge ... just in case
who knows what can happen ... if the batt goes it is replaceable but if it goes inside the radio then who knows if the radio will be damaged
normally takes about 4-5 hours when i charge it externally using the original charger
now i am using lipo for my radio ... much lighter and last longer and faster charging as well ... hehehehe
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My flight with Trex Pro 450

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any recommended shop to get rc planes?
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if u are located in KL/PJ area then amcorp mall has the most variety i would say

mr zhnme ... 1st time trying to take off heli cannot start ah ? tongue.gif
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naa... im just interested more to planes instead of heli.. hu hu
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there are more plane varieties in the 3 shops in amcorp mall than most of the shops in klang valley
it is just a matter of whether u like what u see or not ...
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u mean like to see the shop or the rc? lol
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to see girls
already told u what u needed to know ... up to u where u wanna go visit and see shops or RC laa
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if u are located in KL/PJ area then amcorp mall has the most variety i would say

mr zhnme ... 1st time trying to take off heli cannot start ah ? tongue.gif
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glider landing super slow one la .. u punch straight miss the gliders liau .. hahahaha
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3more days to go...my 1st RC heli. : )
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QUOTE(Davidyeong @ Feb 19 2011, 09:00 PM)
3more days to go...my 1st RC heli. : )
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hah..hope i will love this hoppy.. : )
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this hobby requires determination and perseverance one leh
if u have both then u will succeed
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I have some stuff to sale do PM me if interested:

1 x Rd731
1 x Atom Knight 3D (600 size) bought first hand and mine is heavily 3D setup, never crashed before. Can demo that it can be inverted straight away.

Reason selling, upgrading to kasama srimok ( need fund ).

Pm if interested and will send pictures.
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Sweeann, did u bring along ur heli to dubai?
If not, i can help to take care them tongue.gif

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I have some stuff to sale do PM me if interested:

1 x Rd731
1 x Atom Knight 3D (600 size) bought first hand and mine is heavily 3D setup, never crashed before. Can demo that it can be inverted straight away.

Reason selling, upgrading to kasama srimok ( need fund ).

Pm if interested and will send pictures.
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QUOTE(daddoo @ Feb 20 2011, 05:50 AM)
Sweeann, did u bring along ur heli to dubai?
If not, i can help to take care them tongue.gif
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Wow, you carry all with u during ur flight?
Hehehe, nice flying or not? Hand shaking ar? drool.gif


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Just checking all the stuff in the plane lor ... since most of the items are still *virgin* in their respective boxes, except for the Futaba Radio and the Simulator.

Have not started to assemble the Heli yet, just back to work here after 3 weeks CNY vacation in KL ... now need to pull my mind back to work first, will only start assemble once I have settle a few urgent issues at hand now.
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Ohhh, a brand new heli? Great ....
How much u got for ur 450?
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just setup the simulator on your PC 1st ... leave the real heli alone
whack whack whack the sim until u can effortlessly hover and maybe in all orientations ... then u can start assembling your heli
check out helifreak.com ... go to the tech room ... and follow the 450pro build videos there ... very ez .. i did the same thing
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can i know wat is RC simulator..? can use it on PC..? someone tell me pls..newbie..@@
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The simulator here is a piece of software running in PC to simulate the rc heli flying. Usually this simulator interacts with the real tx to gain more realistic rc flying experience. Commonly known simulators are real flight, reflex xtr, phoenix and so on.
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that mean i can pratice Rc heli from PC...? is it..?

where can download this solfware..?@@
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use google ... it is quite useful .. hehehe
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And also youtube, try to search for 'rc heli simulator' and u wil know how it works.


Added on February 21, 2011, 6:52 am
Anyone know about this heli-x sim?
Accidentally found bcpv2 model in this sim.

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dunno anything about heli-X ... but u can try google BCP model for realflflight laa ... i am using trex500 model oso downloaded ..
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QUOTE(QiW @ Feb 20 2011, 05:55 PM)
just setup the simulator on your PC 1st ... leave the real heli alone
whack whack whack the sim until u can effortlessly hover and maybe in all orientations ... then u can start assembling your heli
check out helifreak.com ... go to the tech room ... and follow the 450pro build videos there ... very ez .. i did the same thing
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Still busy with some work, this weekend should be free to start some work ... smile.gif


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dunno anything about heli-X ... but u can try google BCP model for realflflight laa ... i am using trex500 model oso downloaded ..
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I am using Phoenix, downloaded T-REX 450Pro heli for simulation ... wakakaka

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what mode are u flying ??
if mode 2 ... the next time u come back can test test
SIM is your best friend .. practice it more
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my flying session in MAHA last week.




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Dear all Sifus and Pros,
I am considered a newbie in playing heli...
the biggest heli i tried is Syma S031 and had few crashes caused by wind and was playing in limited flying space ( just fly in the area around 20m x 10m in front of my house)......
Recently i bought a Belt cp cx450 at a lower price and reaching within these 2 days...
I read through many discussion in different forums and i found something...

Is the Belt cp sooooo wild to be tamed ???

Hopefully i didnt buy the wrong heli even it's cheap...
(finger crossed)

Thanks !!!
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the BCP is perfectly flyable ... but it has its limitations and disadvantages
the PRO of the BCP is it is CHEAP to start

get yourself a flight simulator and practice
google realflight ot phoenix or reflex ...
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Hmmmm, usually when we talking about BCP it is a very controversial topic to discuss .....

Anyhow, based on my experience with BCP, it is not really difficult to tame IF you practice intensively in SIM. There is not much problem to do sport flying with stock BCP IMHO. I believe we all have a common consensus here, SIM SIM SIM .... and SIM !!!!

For the BCP package u get, I think u just need to get the SIM cable to connect up your stock Tx with the PC, so far I have no problem to use my ET6I Tx with reflex XTR.

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Thanks guys !!
got it !!
Received my heli this morning !! happy.gif
But i did a very stupid thing and spoiled some teeth on my main gear T_T
However, what's the market price for the cable??
i saw 1 seller selling at RM55...
However, is that possible for me to get the cable in Times Square ??
Plan to find for the gear in the shops in Times Square during the coming weekend... Any shop to recommend from you guys ?????




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My 1st crash......T.T
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My 1st crash......T.T
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That is why I bought together with the simulator for practicing ... tongue.gif

No confidence to fly the real thing yet ... haha
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is this consider as serius crash..?? T.T
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is this consider as serius crash..?? T.T
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QUOTE(kangkang0412 @ Feb 24 2011, 06:37 PM)
Thanks guys !!
got it !!
Received my heli this morning !! happy.gif
But i did a very stupid thing and spoiled some teeth on my main gear T_T
However, what's the market price for the cable??
i saw 1 seller selling at RM55...
However, is that possible for me to get the cable in Times Square ??
Plan to find for the gear in the shops in Times Square during the coming weekend... Any shop to recommend from you guys ?????
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there should be a cable that came together with your BCP ... that cable is usable
then google realflight and dongle emulator .. use your ESKY cable with that
no need to buy ...
if u wanna buy .. i think there is a 3 or 4 in 1 sim thingy with cable for about rm80 or so from rcsmart in amcorp mall


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not serious la .. just bend the linkage back straight the best u can and the coaxial will fly again
if there are not other parts damaged laa ...

but of coz it will fly slightly different coz extremely hard to get linkages PERFECTLY STRAIGHT

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That's not a BCP I think .....
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definitely not a BCP ... looks like a coaxial of some sort
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David, you have both or you thought that is a BCP?
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BCP i thik is kangkang0412 right...?

mine is CB180D, not same ppl. haha.
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ooohh ... a walkera cb180d
supposed to be very stable ... almost as stable as a coaxial
u need to practice on a simulator .. hehehehehe
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Oppppsssssss, my mistake here. Sorry about that ........
I am clear now tongue.gif
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anyone know this RC Dreamz Shop in Pj area..?
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never been there ... but apparently they sell WALKERA stuff ... so maybe u can go there and have a look for parts needed for your 180d
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I have once bought something from them, but through courier service.

If you are looking for CB180D parts there is another option for you, try to look for jtyeap88 from lelong. He is in Penang and I have deal with him before, COD lah because I am from Penang also.
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Ic...ok..tonight will go there have a look.

normaly where u all ply RC heli in PJ area..? any nice place suggest.? : )
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QUOTE(QiW @ Feb 25 2011, 09:06 AM)
there should be a cable that came together with your BCP ... that cable is usable
then google realflight and dongle emulator .. use your ESKY cable with that
no need to buy ...
if u wanna buy .. i think there is a 3 or 4 in 1 sim thingy with cable for about rm80 or so from rcsmart in amcorp mall


Added on February 25, 2011, 9:08 am

not serious la .. just bend the linkage back straight the best u can and the coaxial will fly again
if there are not other parts damaged laa ...

but of coz it will fly slightly different coz extremely hard to get linkages PERFECTLY STRAIGHT
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Bro, FYI, there were no any USB cable in the box but there's a cable with "crocs mouth" clip with 1 black and 1 red clip...
no idea for what...
Planning to go rcsmart tmr ~~ tongue.gif
Hope they have what i need and want brows.gif
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That's the crocodile clip for you to power the stock charger from your car battery, 12V approximately. Not sure if you can do that while the car engine is on because the voltage is somewhat higher.

My BCP package did not come with the sim cable too ....
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Sad...Rc dreamz shop dont have linkage spare part for me. T.T
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QUOTE(kangkang0412 @ Feb 25 2011, 06:09 PM)
Bro, FYI, there were no any USB cable in the box but there's a cable with "crocs mouth" clip with 1 black and 1 red clip...
no idea for what...
Planning to go rcsmart tmr ~~ tongue.gif
Hope they have what i need and want  brows.gif
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i got that cable for sale.....
original come with lamav3
dont know if your transmitter can use, offer me if you want^^
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i got that cable for sale.....
original come with lamav3
dont know if your transmitter can use, offer me if you want^^
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LOL i bought online !!!
RM40 from rcsmart...
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kangkang, are u going rc smart tomorrow..?
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he bought his stuff from rcsmart online laa ... hahahaha
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lol...hope Rc Smart got my stuff la...arh!!
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lol...hope Rc Smart got my stuff la...arh!!
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I bought online but going to the shop to collect my stuffs ~~~
cant wait till tuesday... tongue.gif
David, are you looking for something there?

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LOL i bought online !!!
RM40 from rcsmart...
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is ok^^
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I bought online but going to the shop to collect my stuffs ~~~
cant wait till tuesday...  tongue.gif
David, are you looking for something there?
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yaya ^^
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anything interesting NEW ?? hehehehe
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Fixed the main gear !!
But after test flight only realized that the feathering shaft or the blade holder has senget already... cry.gif
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Added on February 26, 2011, 5:58 pmSoooooooooo difficult to find FMS software.. ><
What i get are all demo and dont know why the realflight cant detect my transmitter... even the red light at usb is blinking...
Do you guys have any idea bout this ??
Thanks !!

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QUOTE(kangkang0412 @ Feb 26 2011, 04:59 PM)
Fixed the main gear !!
But after test flight only realized that the feathering shaft or the blade holder has senget already... cry.gif
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Added on February 26, 2011, 5:58 pmSoooooooooo difficult to find FMS software.. ><
What i get are all demo and dont know why the realflight cant detect my transmitter... even the red light at usb is blinking...
Do you guys have any idea bout this ??
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If you are using those multi 4-in-1, or 9-in-1 USB adapter type, there should have a switch at the USB there, try switching it to RealFlight and see ....
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post Feb 26 2011, 07:49 PM

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I am using the ori Esky USB cable...

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u will need a REALFLIGHT USB dongle to work with your esky radio
that only comes with ORi REALFLIGHT software
to overcome this ... google REALFLIGHT DONGLE EMULATOR
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post Feb 26 2011, 08:27 PM

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Wah, your feathering shaft is super bent. I think u might need to check ur main shaft too.
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QUOTE(daddoo @ Feb 26 2011, 08:27 PM)
Wah, your feathering shaft is super bent. I think u might need to check ur main shaft too.
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My main shaft just fine...
Just the feathering shaft...
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post Feb 26 2011, 08:37 PM

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QUOTE(sweeann @ Feb 26 2011, 06:33 PM)
If you are using those multi 4-in-1, or 9-in-1 USB adapter type, there should have a switch at the USB there, try switching it to RealFlight and see ....
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got a switch inside battery cover
ask daddoo, he knows
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QUOTE(QiW @ Feb 26 2011, 08:13 PM)
u will need a REALFLIGHT USB dongle to work with your esky radio
that only comes with ORi REALFLIGHT software
to overcome this ... google REALFLIGHT DONGLE EMULATOR
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Thanks !! Am trying to download biggrin.gif
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post Feb 27 2011, 12:05 PM

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that switches in the battery compartment? I think it is use to turn off the mixing ......
Google and see tongue.gif
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post Feb 27 2011, 04:48 PM

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Helo...ask a question.

when i try to lift up my Heli, the heli will shake...how to solve this problem...?
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post Feb 27 2011, 05:19 PM

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would it be problem of shaft ???
Like mine ??? shake till like going to turn over...
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post Feb 27 2011, 05:28 PM

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ya..when pull around 50-60%...shaft oso shake abit..is this normal?
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post Feb 27 2011, 07:39 PM

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maybe you can check your shaft... like mine i posted before, it bended seriously...
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post Feb 27 2011, 08:30 PM

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u take to the shop check..?
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u can dismantle the rotor head and remove the feathering shaft
then roll it on a glass table to see if it is bent
oso check your main shaft .. take it out and roll on glass ..

short cut would be to remove blades and then slowly spin up the heli ... VERY VERY LOW throttle only
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i did post a photo in previous post....
you can notice in that photo that my right blade holder is " ) " upward...


Added on February 28, 2011, 1:11 amguys, have any idea where to download the keygen or the dongle Emulator...
BTW, do you guys using G4 or G5 ??
couldnt find any free dongle emu dl for G5...


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i am using G4.5 ... the twee RF dongle emulator can be used for G3 to G4.5


Added on March 2, 2011, 2:06 amplanes and helis crashed already ah ?? hahahaha
i maidened my mini veltro last weekend .. 1st flight ok good
2nd flight dunno why crash at launch ...
now repaired and ready to fly for the 2nd time ..

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too bz repairing ?? cool2.gif
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Too boring with my lovers already tongue.gif

Hehehe, it would be great if I have another lover again but situation not permitted.

One of my 3S battery 'kong' already. There is a cell cannot reach 4.2V and the charging rate is slower to the other 2 cells. It happens that I run the battery for 1 min of flight time only then keep it for whole week.
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QUOTE(daddoo @ Mar 2 2011, 06:03 PM)
Too boring with my lovers already tongue.gif

Hehehe, it would be great if I have another lover again but situation not permitted.

One of my 3S battery 'kong' already. There is a cell cannot reach 4.2V and the charging rate is slower to the other 2 cells. It happens that I run the battery for 1 min of flight time only then keep it for whole week.
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so fast boring mie....

i need time to bring my bird to rc shop
because some screws, i cant open, and dont have spare screws.....

bro QIW
record some videos when you fly your birds, so that i got something to see when i open this thread^^

i also want to ask o, a beginner 4 channel plane, the most basic but fast speed cost around what price?
want to fly my heli and plane together when have time

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fast and beginner does not belong together ... hehehehe
if u put fast and beginner together ... that will equal spectacular crash = $$$ + time
furthermore a beginner will hopefully want something that can withstand minor crashes and not too much repairing

different ppl in here started with different planes
daddoo with cessna
slap with glider
i started with a zagi delta wing

all of the above can go fast if u upgrade from the recommended setup
but when u apply more speed than it is supposed to have then the handling will be quite different ... for this u need to at least be able to fly much better than a beginner already ... otherwise = crash + $$$ ... not to mention the danger it will pose to yourself and others if u lose control coz too much speed and power

of the above ... i recommend the AXN CLOUDSFLY GLIDER as your 1st plane (i recommend u upgrade the stock ESC to a 25A ESC)
it can be flown moderately fast with stock setup ... forgiving handling and lots of time to glide and correct your moves if u lose orientation or make a mistake if u dont fly it too low (too low = 5-10ft from ground)
in the event of a minor crash ... it prolly will not suffer damage ... even if damaged it can be easily fixed with some epoxy

and yes ... i have owned and flown the 3 planes above b4

as for your video request .. this is quite unlikely to happen coz nobody bothers with a vid cam when we go flying
phone cam u cannot see anything coz everything is so small .. hahahaha

with planes u have to see and fly it in real life .. the feeling is very much different from flying helis ( i still fly and enjoy my heli)
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I am still enjoying my flying sessions lah, but only boring to fly my bcp and 4g6. Kekeke, like driving the same car for too long already u will think of changing a new car...
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now u know why i have at least 6-7 flyable aircraft at any one time
so can have variety of FEEL to fly .. hehehehe
if feel like relaxing today then fly the glider type
if feel like rempit fly high KV type
if dont feel like flying then dont fly coz u will prolly crash if u do ... hahahahahaa
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QUOTE(QiW @ Mar 3 2011, 10:20 AM)
now u know why i have at least 6-7 flyable aircraft at any one time
so can have variety of FEEL to fly .. hehehehe
if feel like relaxing today then fly the glider type
if feel like rempit fly high KV type
if dont feel like flying then dont fly coz u will prolly crash if u do ... hahahahahaa
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i want this^^
lolz
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WFZugqCj-vM&feature=feedu


Added on March 3, 2011, 11:55 am
QUOTE(QiW @ Mar 3 2011, 10:20 AM)
now u know why i have at least 6-7 flyable aircraft at any one time
so can have variety of FEEL to fly .. hehehehe
if feel like relaxing today then fly the glider type
if feel like rempit fly high KV type
if dont feel like flying then dont fly coz u will prolly crash if u do ... hahahahahaa
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how much is it to build a funjet?
funjet can withstand crash bo?

bringing my bcp to shop saturday haha

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Hehehe, I have to put my cessna in the living room with the space I have and my wife already complaint .... can't imagine what if I have more than that ......

Does it include the plane u r letting off for those 6,7 plane?


Added on March 3, 2011, 12:39 pm
ccfook, that's a double prop plane ..... so everything also multiply by 2 smile.gif

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nope ... those sold off are not included
6-7 aircraft are in the house NOW and ready to fly one
oso not included are the ones not yet built still on boxes or WIP one ... hehehehe
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QUOTE(ccfook2123 @ Mar 3 2011, 11:34 AM)
i want this^^
lolz
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WFZugqCj-vM&feature=feedu


Added on March 3, 2011, 11:55 am

how much is it to build a funjet?
funjet can withstand crash bo?

bringing my bcp to shop saturday haha
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funjet cannot take crashes well coz they travel fast
anything fast hitting the ground die 90% of the time one leh ... hehehehe

here is the reply to what u want ...


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i dont want this, i want cost for funjet o^^


Added on March 3, 2011, 4:56 pmis ok la, i not planning to buy now
the glider, i ask, its rm500 including basic remote control rtf?

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dont get those RTF radio laa
if u plan to play long term then just get a cheaper branded radio oso nvm
when u fly plane u need reliability foremost and then the settings available in the radio
even buy the hobbyking turnigy 9X radio oso quite good from the reviews

there is somebody selling a NEW small glider in MRC for rm300 .. check it out
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Hello all i got 1 set walkera 2.4g 4channel heli radio with receiver n 2 servo n battery for sale any1 interested?? pm me...
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QUOTE(ccfook2123 @ Mar 3 2011, 04:55 PM)
i dont want this, i want cost for funjet o^^


Added on March 3, 2011, 4:56 pmis ok la, i not planning to buy now
the glider, i ask, its rm500 including basic remote control rtf?
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forgot to calculate the cost of the funjet for u
basic FJ ... rm230
motor (quite fast one) .. rm70
ESC 70a .. rm100
2 servos .. less than rm30
prop + adapter ... rm20

total .. rm 450 not including rx and tx

this one is basic funjet that can hit around 150-160kmh no probs


Added on March 3, 2011, 11:55 pmforgot ... u will need minimum 3S 2200mah 30C lipos
anything below that and there will not be enough power

some of us here now fly the FJ with 4S 2800mah 30C ... estimated around 210-220kmh

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QUOTE(QiW @ Mar 3 2011, 11:54 PM)
forgot to calculate the cost of the funjet for u
basic FJ ... rm230
motor (quite fast one) .. rm70
ESC 70a .. rm100
2 servos .. less than rm30
prop + adapter ... rm20

total .. rm 450 not including rx and tx

this one is basic funjet that can hit around 150-160kmh no probs


Added on March 3, 2011, 11:55 pmforgot ... u will need minimum 3S 2200mah 30C lipos
anything below that and there will not be enough power

some of us here now fly the FJ with 4S 2800mah 30C ... estimated around 210-220kmh
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bro... is this the estimation for the multiplex? if the skyartec ok ka?

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