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 ❤ LYN Proton INSPIRA: Owners/Fan Thread V2 ❤, INSPIRA > Everything | JEBAT Bodykit! :D

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post Nov 24 2010, 09:30 PM

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Its funny how people that don't contribute anything in the past but when a small issue is brought up for discussion they come and point out its Proton's fault and its to be expected, what we pay is what we get as they say. So nice of them reminding us.

Say what you want, I still can't wait to have it. If its delayed because of the color scheme so be it. Color only, just re-spray only. nothing major, not like engine failure or door drops out by itself. Don't negative things brings out the best in people?
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post Nov 24 2010, 09:56 PM

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Can you do us a favor? Can you do for us a detailed picture comparison as we dont have a lancer to compare and also dont have an inspira at the moment to do so. Hope you can show us how the dashboard was fitted wrongly & exposed metals in the trunk in your opinion. Thanks in advance
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post Nov 24 2010, 10:18 PM

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Basically what we want is just to see for ourselves if its really that bad as described. Because if this is so obvious, then how come Paul Tan and other journalist review never mentioned the obvious fitting defect on the dashboard? Dashboard not fitted properly is a major defect, one day the dashboard comes loose then all hell breaks loose. So better if our friend can help us out here it would be very much appreciated. Hope you can agree to help, Frost.
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post Nov 24 2010, 10:28 PM

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Don't get me wrong, I am not asking about the sound when you knock, you mentioned the fitting of the dashboard is not done properly & the exposed metal in the trunk compared to the lancer, so I thought a picture to show what you mean would be good enough.

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post Nov 24 2010, 10:34 PM

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He can do it on a test drive unit by bringing his friends lancer to compare at Proton showroom. Its possible. I dont doubt his comparison/opinion but hope he can show us the 2 things he found that is not up to standard. For those of us going to buy Inpsira almost 99.99% does not have a lancer ourselves. How to compare? I cant be borrowing lancer and go to proton showroom and compare, afraid kena hentam by the Mitsubishi SA. sweat.gif

QUOTE(alam_lara @ Nov 24 2010, 10:26 PM)
Did you that ( the bold one) by yourself? As what i know, only 11 inspira on the road. rite now a very very few people can
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post Nov 24 2010, 10:45 PM

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hey dark you are here, mind to share if the dashboard on your car really one side is higher than the other? Thanks!!!

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post Nov 24 2010, 10:52 PM

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You have been of great help. Those things you highlighted will surely be one of the 1st things I will check before I agree to sign off with the car. When I tested it, the car is quiet on the road, does not seem to have been lacking of soundproofing, but I have never been in a lancer so I cant say for sure, hope you can help us when you do test the inspira. Of course smart cost cutting will always be at areas that is not obvious to the eyes. But for a car that is cheaper RM30k with same engine, transmission and body as the lancer, I still think its a great deal.

QUOTE(FrostLance @ Nov 24 2010, 10:45 PM)
What i said above is from my own test and my own experience. If u guys still have doubts , then compare urself..
Maybe the show car i saw had QC problems,  but what i saw was really dissapointing..

If u are satisfied with the inspira by all means get it..
Im not here to prevent anyone from buying it nor i am senselessly bashing the car..

I just feel that for that premium price u pay, at least proton should do a better QC job on it. I think some cost cutting has been done by proton,
soundproofing on the car is diff.. maybe lacking in the inspira (door panels).. but this is just an assumption..  will compare more once the test drive unit arrives here
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post Nov 24 2010, 11:01 PM

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Well time to start spending some money saved on soundproofing the doors smile.gif
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post Nov 24 2010, 11:06 PM

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Well Frost have spent you time sharing with us so nothing to complain here, what I have tested and saw satisfies me, so I have not qualms about buying it. What you have highlighted will be something I will look out for at the delivery stage.


Added on November 24, 2010, 11:07 pmStart poisoning so fast ah!! sweat.gif

QUOTE(FrostLance @ Nov 24 2010, 11:04 PM)
Autofoam + UR bars = Awesomeness
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post Nov 24 2010, 11:11 PM

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Like I have said, I find the ride noise to be quiet during my test drive. I did not complain but if they took it out for cost saving purposes and IF I want it to be even more quieter then I can easily get it done at minimal cost (As my bro in law has an accessories shop, and I already do plan to add on soundproofing regardless)

QUOTE(eddie_al @ Nov 24 2010, 11:04 PM)
that would defeat the purpose of "having a bargain" by buying a localised lancer...because additional cost incurred.
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Added on November 24, 2010, 11:14 pmAgree with you 100%. I felt the door (open and closed several times) and I am happy with it. Closing take effort because there is a thing that purposely prevents it to be close by itself, like a swinging door without any control. I believe this is to avoid the door from being closed accidentally by itself and cause injury. I have the same experience with Pug 3008.

QUOTE(darkangel7 @ Nov 24 2010, 11:10 PM)
i don't really have problems closing the door.. seems nice and solid to me.. although you can't let the door close by itself but have to pull it in with a slight effort to shut it..
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post Nov 24 2010, 11:20 PM

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My waja driver's side door can automatically slam shut on itself with the slightest push, and a few times my finger got slammed onto the car body when the door suddenly move to closed by itself when I parked an at uneven road , painful experience I tell you, so I am now glad Inspira's door does not close by itself.

QUOTE(aichiban @ Nov 24 2010, 11:15 PM)
that effort is the one turning me off
imagine a relative/fren u fetching
when they wanted to close the door, then aiks....its not closed
open, close, aiks, still not closed
then in the end need slaming

both look at each other, thinking....oh, u bought a proton
not acceptable for a 100k car
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post Nov 24 2010, 11:32 PM

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Only if one wants a quieter ride or for audio improvement reasons, then they will be willing to invest in soundproofing their car, regardless it a Proton or BMW. So if the person is happy with Inpsira noise level, it will be zero cost for soundproofing, right? So your generalization of additional soundproofing cost for others is not true - its not a must have. The level of noise in Inspira is definitely better than my current waja as for my own comparison, I may not even bother to do anything to it. Maybe you have better cars in your garage thus Lancer is not on par with your expectations. But I am happy with my choice.

QUOTE(eddie_al @ Nov 24 2010, 11:19 PM)
friend, not everyone has a brother in law working in an accessories shop. the sound proofing cost remains true for others, smile.gif. quietness level is rather subjective from one person to another. tbh, i dont recall the original lancer as being quiet too, so when i drove the inspira, it was really much of a deja vu instead of letdown. as i've pointed previously, from where i am seeing, the inspira has infact directly inherited all of lancer's pros & cons, plus some of Proton's own quirks (ehem...localisation)

the so-called better handling attributes to the suspension changes & different tyre profile, but the overall chasis is left untouched. be glad that it is so, because strong chassis is one of Mitsu's forte (it means strenght in french, pun intended, tongue.gif)

but fitting & sub-par sound proofing are also both a Mitsu & Proton's shared 'quality'. biasak lah kan, Mitsu WAS Proton's mentor afterall.
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Added on November 24, 2010, 11:39 pm"Cheap" to others have different perceptions, you may find the Proton badge cheap already, regardless if its slapped onto a BMW model (a fiction rebadge exercise) besides using a little force to close the door is not cheap in my opinion, it feels more solid instead, this is my own feeling,

QUOTE(eddie_al @ Nov 24 2010, 11:25 PM)
sothy, that was not the kind of "door closing" they are talking about. they are referring to the "force" needed to shut the door properly. whether it is a gentle swing or a forced motion to properly close the door.

their concern is, if people sees a new car needs to be used force to close the doors, then impression given is very much...erm, cheap.
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post Nov 24 2010, 11:50 PM

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Bulk soundproofing deal can be done of course, but both of our experience on the test drive does not really warrant it. We also didn't hear from darkangel and jychow commenting badly about the noise level of their rides. So this is not really a concern, my concern is when will they deliver the cars. vmad.gif

QUOTE(kaizou @ Nov 24 2010, 11:43 PM)

sothy.
how bout doing bulk soundproofing for inspira  brows.gif  . well, only if its as bad as being told. my test drive exp is rated Good... cant wait to have the real deal.
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post Nov 25 2010, 12:13 AM

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lol,I guess you didn't read as intended properly too. My intention is to point out the unwarranted "additional cost for all Inspira owners" assumption comment that you made earlier which leads to this. May have and Must haves are two different things. Please don't feel offended because words written here don't have emotions. Peace!

P/s: I am not a brand or keyboard warrior as you put it, I just have some extra free time with my baby & wife asleep I can spend more time on this thread with the same interest.


Added on November 25, 2010, 12:16 amHold on, lets get our cars 1st, then see what & how much sound proofing we need to add, then I will ask for bulk purchase special price. Keep you all updated,

My SA didnt reply my sms. Guess its not good news after all! ohmy.gif

QUOTE(tiong @ Nov 24 2010, 11:58 PM)
SothysSaleShop, i am interested for bulk sound proofing also.
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post Nov 25 2010, 12:21 AM

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I think I will not pressure my SA from now, no point chasing shadows. Hope get a surprise call when you least expected it, more fun that way.
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post Nov 25 2010, 12:33 AM

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I must admit the sound from the engine does intrude into the cabin especially at higher revs. If compared to my waja, it sounded much refined. Maybe I am used to the waja soundproofing "superiority" and thus found Inspira to be good, tolerable and acceptable in the noise level department. Anyway, no hard feeling whatsoever, bro, peace and have a good night, I am late to meet my "Lady Chow" already.

QUOTE(eddie_al @ Nov 25 2010, 12:23 AM)
nope, no offence meant & none taken. i just said that because you mentioned that if you wanted, you can get sound proofing done & it is cheap because u know someone who does it. i am just stating, if others wanted to do it too (since not everyone has high tolerance towards intrusive sound), the additional cost is a heck of pain because it is infact a new car. similarly, not everyone can accept that a new car standard nowadays still doesnt come with proper close fit & finish. and i admit i am intolerable towards overly engine sound, smile.gif.

even in the original lancer launched back few years back, i taruh the SA for telling me that the sound was done on purpose to stimulate sporting feel. (waddaya know, they even thought up a good story for that..., like lexus LFA, acoustic exhaust...hahaha)

peace 2. inspira is a good marketting strategy, it gives something for the rakyat at competitive price. but it can still be better, because i believe the benchmark set by Lancer is not something proton cannot overcome. mau atau x mau sajer.

p/s: duh..apa la u sothy, i never said you were a keyboard warrior pun! zzz...just a friendly reminder asking not to take things in negative view, because only keyboard/brand warriors does that.
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post Nov 25 2010, 08:32 AM

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congrats hellcutespawn, dont be shy about it, enjoy it to the fullest, when did your SA call you & give you the good news? its good to know delivery is on its way now,
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post Nov 25 2010, 08:38 AM

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speaking of problem, pls check the dashboard, does it looked not properly fitted?
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post Nov 25 2010, 11:44 AM

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You took drastic and desperate measures to secure the car, rclxms.gif notworthy.gif thumbup.gif , over here all of us are envying your ride.....

QUOTE(hellcutespawn @ Nov 25 2010, 11:21 AM)
thanks guys...so far,no problems spotted...ur buying rm80k plus car...what do u aspect?...  doh.gif  want perfectness,go for luxury car,no doubt...i get it yesterday,bought the showroom car...i said i want that demm showroom car dude!  thumbup.gif my SA said,1st 2.0 arrive this saturday,that fella booked at the moment inspira lounced,dun even looks at the car...lucky that fella...

p/s: it's 1.8
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post Nov 25 2010, 12:57 PM

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Just got news.

My SA told me to take the showroom 2.0 white (If I cannot wait), I would take it if its about 2 days old in the showroom, now its been sitting there for more than 1 month plus, I will patiently wait for the next batch, he mentioned need to wait 2-3 weeks more at least. Proton delivering 1.8 units first.

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