Thanks guys
im looking forward to try lanscape n sceneries

btw, my x'mas present comes early

i can now WL on my FF as well yey

Digital Gallery 1utama is selling this at rm340. good deal

I m new here,i wanna ask something about a33. is tat a gud dslt? i saw none own it at the name list of 1st page~ my english is suck so broken english here, sry...

Lol.

I think bro mastering owns a A33 lol. And i think its decent enough 2 compare with some of the better and more expensive DSLR in market. Camera matters less, its the skills that pawn and make people awe at your pix.

How to check a new Sony Alpha huh? I am supposed to help someone pickup his A33 2morrow also >">

Nice to use? bcos i plan to get one for my A55

fasoption: i played with 1 in sony center the curve yesterday. to me, it's like a little fragile. must handle gently. XP

i think you should save more and go F58 or the likes.
GN20 is just few notch up of flash power compared to popup flash.
FF dont have popup, so this unit is the cheapest way to trigger our F58 wirelessly

check box seal
check picture numbering, but make sure your mem card is formatted/empty before doing so as some user reported continuation of numbering from used card
check for dead/stuck pixel on EVF and LCD by using a completely white background (white paper) and then completely black background (use lens cap)

pop up flash GN12. No difference with GN20. Well I mean there is, but little. No point. Go get Metz lagi shiok. I owned one last time, GN36 only Rm380.

Metz is what model? GN36?

Wat is GN stand for??

Aite.

Thanks man. Gonna go look see look see tomorrow. Gonna be a field day tomorrow then.

but that gn20 can bounce.. not like popup..

guide number.

anyone owns cz 16-80mm? is it a good replacement for 18-55mm? same aperture.

that's the cheapest cz in the market lol

Cheapest also more than 2k >">

ahtiven : if you see lens with blue sticker say Zeiss just buy. approved by the World sony alpha user federation haha .

i would say YES
balance perfectly with the a33/a55. the F58 is just TOO BIGG and heavy, really IMBA. i havent tried the F42 on my a33 but im assuming it would be in between.
i'll say if you dont have a flash yet, the best isto get the F42 should be good enuf and balance (for a33/a55 user)
if you already do and have extra cash and love to go jalan2 shoot light just get the F20.
here link for a good review (http://alphastrobist.wordpress.com/review-hvl-f20am/)

see for urself, how IMBA is the F58 with a33/a55 and how cute nice with the F20


HVL-F20:
+GN20
+higher than popup = reduce chance to get Red Eye
+use AAA battery (doesnt suck up camera's battery)
+very light and compact
+if use in burst mode can get up to 3frames
+can bounce in normal horizontal plane
+AAA battery can last very long (i shot more than 200 pics yesterday + nearly 100 pics with the flash today no charge battery still could go)
-GN20 cant bounce high
-cant bounce sideways (cant turn head)
-cant know how much battery life (so as the F58)
-cant use as trigger on body <a850
-might cause hard shadow (see pic sample above)
-direct flash may cause sakit mata

sample from a33 and f20,

Somehow, I would not hesitate getting the F58am for my A55 if i were to get it lol.

It not reli that BIG lol.

but ergonomics wise, mmg f42 would look nice la lolz.

cheapest cz are m42 manual lens

nono.. thats the only cz sony DT lens for aspc, full frame cz lens on aspc dslr/t would have limitations yes? furthermore i cant afford so many lol.

was browsing in nikkon thread and came across someone posted 85mm f1.4 model portrait, really poisoning. wonder how much does it cost and the pic comparison between sony cz 85mm f1.4 that nikkor 85mm f1.4.

kopitiam : CZ jena

ahtiven : yes crop lens on FF will turn them to crop . erm its hard to compare the Nikon's and CZ 85mm for Sony because for the test might use different body. Better if u ask the Nikon thread about the comparizon bcoz the Zeiss lens for Sony is not the same with Nikon (iinm).

haha i forgot to say imbalance is oso bcoz of its weight, probably you could balance in normal horizontal plane but in vertical is quite hard (probably for me ). if you're shooting for 5-10 minutes ok la, try lugging it around the KLIMS that at least 1 hour 30 minutes. HEAVYYYY. oh ya im saying a33/a55 with kitlens. but its up to your own preference ur money maa

seriously i hardly use my F58 now , one bcoz don have suitable bag just for body+kit and f58. another is i dowan people to notice me, see soo small a33 with CZ24 f2 F58 sure ppl think WTF!!

p.s. ~ probably wanna buy the off flash cable and mount the F20