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 Nokia N8 - V12 - [The King of Camera Phones], New N8 Owner, please read the FrontPage!

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post Nov 12 2010, 12:44 AM

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I think your invoice and final aknowledgement will state but sometimes the personnel lazy just type repairs.I'll check mine done this morning tomorrow.
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post Nov 12 2010, 07:37 AM

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QUOTE(super_evil_alien @ Nov 12 2010, 04:38 AM)
For phones like N900 & N8 I'll recommend those who want it to buy Zitron/Avaxx set if possible.
These are not some average phone which any Ah Beng can repair if there is any problem.

Some seller tell buyers this & that & also tell AP give longer warranty so it's better.But in real life AP company service will never match to NCC service.(But some NCC sucks though)
So serious meh?
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ahahah. If you ask me, I'll ask you to buy ORIGINAL for any model because paying that few hunderd bucks extra is worth it considering the hassle you will not get. So support ORIGINAL smile.gif

My advice : Don't be penny wise pound foolish.

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QUOTE(nicholasbeh @ Nov 12 2010, 05:12 AM)
680mhz is enough if the processor is ARM Cortex A8.lol...besides that,i learned 680mhz is not enough from another ranger...hehe

DARN!!!i forget to make a conclusion for the feedback!Radiance,pls add into my feedback...N8 worth the price!remove all those bug and solve the lag issue will add more value for N8.i cant find any close competitor for RM1500+ phone in comparing with N8.(compete in terms of worthiness)Nonetheless,i dun mind to pay more few hundred ringgit if Nokia dump in high performance processor,better screen,higher RAM etc etc..(this is my personal opinion)
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That's probably where the rumoured N9 comes in biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(stanley85 @ Nov 12 2010, 09:17 AM)
taste decent only tongue.gif
hmm.gif back 1 step to capture nice background?
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no lar...cause too much area out of focus. You move 1 step back to allow higher percentage if the pic to be in focus. Anyway, I bet you finish eating already laugh.gif


Added on November 12, 2010, 9:41 am
QUOTE(DinA623 @ Nov 12 2010, 09:33 AM)
smile.gif  smile.gif thought of buying 8/16 gb micro sd card for n8,any suggestions?trusted brand & pricing...
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If pricing is your biggest concern, go for Kingmax. They are pretty cheap. 16gb at RM100 plus a little. Class 4.
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QUOTE(super_evil_alien @ Nov 12 2010, 09:50 AM)
Dramatic improvement should be happening Jan/Feb next year I think.
That's when the devs starts putting everything together & rush for the consumer ready v1.2 which is scheduled to be out in April 2011.
I'm more interested in aspire's upcoming feedback.
As a longtime N900 user he should have some "extra" feedback.
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Yipee. Meego 1.2 and I'm waiting for Nitdroid 0.0.9. rclxms.gif
I'm waiting for his comparison between N8 and iPhone too biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(DinA623 @ Nov 12 2010, 09:52 AM)
thanks 4 the info,must do some scouting after work  tongue.gif
btw class 4 should be ok for normal use is it
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Class 4 equals to minimum of 4mbps Performance Speed

Should be alright but no harm going for faster cards. You may even go for Class 10 which is quite unnecessary knowing the fact that you wouldn't use that much of speed for phone operations except during Mass Storage data transfer.


Added on November 12, 2010, 10:00 am
QUOTE(BBXiong @ Nov 12 2010, 09:54 AM)
it's not like we wanna complain, but it's really dragging the whole experience down...N900 is way cheaper now, which means OMAP 3430 is fairly cheap to put into a phone, and it's running a better A8..one year old phone with 600Mhz A8 can run a linux based OS smoothly, but at 2010 their new camera flagship symbian lags badly...doesnt really make sense to me..
IMO N8 uses ARM11 i think is cos they have leftovers from previous gen phones, all also using ARM11...they just need to push higher clock speed, integrate with Broadcomm chip that N8 core component is there d...more like clearing old stock in a different way to me
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It's cool that you're getting 600mhz clock speed unlike most Symbian^1 devices, having only 434mhz without any GPU.
N900 have Cortex A8. That's why it's faster. Plus the Max Clock speed for our particular Proc is 1ghz as stated in ARM Website but some people go for more.

Anyway, you guys have a powerful GPU lowering the burden on the proc. smile.gif

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QUOTE(BBXiong @ Nov 12 2010, 10:02 AM)
doubt that they will use hummingbird, samsung stuff...and i kinda doubt they will use snapdragon also...maybe they will use ARM11 1Ghz?
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I think they will use ARM Cortex-A9. I think it was what Sifu SuperEvilAlien said.
Nokia will obviously not use Hummingbird cause it's by Samsung. Snapdragon possible but not likely knowing the fact that Nokia has been using ARM processors for so many of their devices unless they want to set precedence on the N9. ARM Cortex-A9 is quite powerful as well. With optimised speed of 830mhz. Most likely speed to get for stock clock speed. Nokia always put lowest optimised clock speed for the proc.

ARM Cortex-A9 Details : http://www.arm.com/products/processors/cor...a/cortex-a9.php

Or anyone wishing for ARM Cortex-A15 take a look at it too : http://www.arm.com/products/processors/cor.../cortex-a15.php

A15 is extremely powerful.

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QUOTE(super_evil_alien @ Nov 12 2010, 10:15 AM)
Well..This popped up in MeeGo wiki - http://wiki.meego.com/Devices/U8500
Most probably this device will be using MeeGo as OS too.

Feature similar to leaked N9 too.
Anyone approve the same spec for N9?
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This is more realistic than Snapdragon nod.gif

Check the page for this device as wellhttp://www.stericsson.com/platforms/U8500.jsp

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QUOTE(BuFung @ Nov 12 2010, 10:22 AM)
Cortex A9??  maybe yes in the dream....
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It's should be coming for the next Meego device. That's the next sensible upgrade based on the fact that N900 is using Cortex-A8.
Snapdragon highly unlikely. Hummingbird close to 0% chances.
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QUOTE(sklchan @ Nov 12 2010, 10:22 AM)
how powerful the proc also direct affected how big the battery gonna include... imagine a truck engine with a motocycle gas tank...  doh.gif
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current top capacity battery that Nokia has should be BP-4L packing a 1500mah capacity. BL-5J on the N900 is a total mismatch doh.gif

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QUOTE(super_evil_alien @ Nov 12 2010, 10:32 AM)
OS & the spec.
We all want the same spec for the upcoming phone.

No more "ARM 11 is not enough"
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You'll definitely see ARM11 appearance on any Meego devices. It's a total joke. It should be at least ARM Cortex-A9 if Nokia is still using ARM processors.


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QUOTE(BuFung @ Nov 12 2010, 10:30 AM)
the leak spec is ST-Ericsson...  anything to do wt Nokia?  hmm.gif

ur phone charge 3x a day ah?  wao..  really god like.. laugh.gif laugh.gif
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QUOTE(qwerty79 @ Nov 12 2010, 10:37 AM)
Based on their track record, they will still use ARM processor on N9.

What Nokia really lack is in their software department. My previous 5800 take a year before they come out with a better firmware. Can't they make a good firmware before they shipped the phone?  sad.gif They like to sell first and listen to user comments later (if they really listen).

I think Nokia should keep producing cheaper phone (<RM1k) and come out with a single flag phone for each >RM1k and RM2k. So, instead investing money to find a way to make a variety of phone, they should think about 1 or 2 phone only. Instead of building an OS to be compatible with variety of hardware, they should focus on 1 or 2 only.

Just my RM0.02.  wink.gif
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Maemo on the other hand is a whole different story compared to Symbian. Maemo seems to be alot better.
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1 or 2 person? I think nobody changes phone that quickly unless they come out with better phones all the time.
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QUOTE(stimix @ Nov 12 2010, 10:46 AM)
From my experience using a higher speed Vivaz running on OMAP 720Mhz vs N8, N8 is much faster & also less power drainage lor...So now I dun trust the speed rating anymore...680mhz can tapau 720Mhz ...hmnnnnn funiiii
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Bro, that's because it's Symbian^1 versus Symbian^3. If you were to install Symbian^3 on Vivaz, N8 will lose out though I'm not too sure what GPU are both devices using. Based on the processor, N8 will lose. Symbian^3 has a lot of tweaks and has been made a lot faster compared to Symbian^1 smile.gif

Everything said is just therectically speaking. Do not flame me and ask for proof. notworthy.gif laugh.gif

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I think ARM11 can go higher. So let's see if Nokia give it through FW update smile.gif
http://www.arm.com/products/processors/cla...arm11/index.php
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QUOTE(BBXiong @ Nov 12 2010, 10:58 AM)
cos it's SE....
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I wonder if Omnia HD is ever going to get Symbian^3 knowing that the hardware is very much able to perform to deliver Symbian^3 biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(WhatMan @ Nov 12 2010, 11:10 AM)
Sure lose? Got proof? Don't just give theories.
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How am I suppose to prove?
I'm just seggesting it theoretically. Based on the processor clock speed. notworthy.gif
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QUOTE(WhatMan @ Nov 12 2010, 11:14 AM)
Not a convincing argument to say Vivaz will run faster than N8 when running S^3. Clock speed these days can't be the absolute truth.
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Well, we won't know unless we try. My bad. notworthy.gif
N8 ARM11 performs better than ARM Cortex-A8 at the moment. nod.gif
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QUOTE(stimix @ Nov 12 2010, 11:16 AM)
Yeah...My Desktop E7200 wth 2.53Ghz startup slower than my Notebook wth T6400 2.0ghz...Till now still kenot understand why  hmm.gif
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Are both on the same OS. Alright. When Microsoft announced Windows 7, many reviews stated that Startup time of Windows 7 is faster than Startup time of Windows Vista. Relatively speaking, how your phone performs depends on your software as well.
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QUOTE(BuFung @ Nov 12 2010, 11:19 AM)
ya clock speed doesn't... 

but A8 have 40% more instruction executed compare to a ARM11....  which mean a same 600Mhz A8 vs an 600 Mhz ARM11, in the same software, it run 40% faster.... 

accept the fact that almost all other manufacturer using "Current" generation of CPU which is the Cortex instead of the last generation ARM11...    3GS already in A8...
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Yeap. Just a comparison for PC processor.
An i7 Quad-Core performs better than a Intel Core 2 Quad processor. notworthy.gif

We want to speak of unbiased comparison. I personally believe it would have been better if Nokia actually put a Cortex into their Symbian^3 devices but what's done has been done. There's no turning back. All they can do now is to optimised the software as much as possible. So sit tight and wait for the FW Update smile.gif
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QUOTE(Leo the Lion @ Nov 12 2010, 11:23 AM)
Arm8 is better than arm11 and thats a fact. What most important is software implementation and software optimization. If bad,  it will be like what happen to samsung galaxy s, high spec, but lag.
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I know. That's why I said that Symbian^3 has been written to be a lot faster than Symbian^1. Is that deniable? smile.gif
If no, I said, If SE Vivaz is running on Symbian^3 alongside with Nokia N8, theoretically speaking, it should be faster due to hardware differences.

Fixed : Software (Symbian^3)
Manipulated : Hardware-ARM 11 vs ARM Cortex-A8
Responding : How fast the system performs

I mean no harm to Nokia or the community here and I'm with Nokia till date and will still be. I'm just making a hypothesis. icon_rolleyes.gif


Added on November 12, 2010, 11:33 am
QUOTE(stimix @ Nov 12 2010, 11:28 AM)
Both also running on the same Wins 7 lor as per my siggy  smile.gif but my notebook start-up almost instant compare to desktop!
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The second part coming into topic is what have you installed into your computer. My computer filled with tonnes of softwares actually starts up slower than my mum's (lower processor clock speed) Vista comp.

Just if SE install those UI patches on top of the system, they will slow down the device too. smile.gif

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